From USA Today: "Outside of a few small issues, Forbidden West feels like the game Guerrilla wanted to make with Horizon Zero Dawn. The world is better, the way you move through it is improved, and the variety and quality of the enemies you face are only rivaled by the versatility of the arsenal you use to bring them down. Characters are deeper and the writing is occasionally as sharp as the tip of a mechanical spear. From that first trip into Plainsong to the secrets you can unearth beneath the desert of Las Vegas, Forbidden West is stuffed with moments that will take root in the memory."
Maybe I'm turning into "old man yells at cloud."
So lame, a tech demo was conducted to test new technology. This is nothing new; they've been doing this since the 1980s. There have been thousands of tech demos that led to nothing. That said, AI is here to stay, and it will eventually find its way into games in one form or another. It's time to stop the overly dramatic reactions and accept reality.
Talk about a 180 midway through your argument. Perhaps that 180 is why people are talking about it?
What he said was not wrong though... AI is here and being used more and more is different industries. Its not like it is going away anytime soon.
@darth: Where did I say he was wrong other than expressing that it's this thinking that people are talking about it? He complained about people talking about a tech demo being shown to the public as an expression of AI's use being popularized and then proved it with his own words. I didn't say they were wrong, only it only gives credence to those who are worried about the popularization and use of AI in the industry to replace actual actors.
I can see what you mean. What I am getting at is just because they did a tech demo with Aloy using AI to voice doesn't meam that this particular tech will ever actually be used. Although I personally think it will, if we can get voices to sound more natural and real. Unless it's stopped by voice actors.
that is the current situation. voice actors are 'voicing' their concern over the use of AI. im sure you have heard those TV commercials where you can tell its an AI voice. But as things improve... there will be a point where nobody will be able to tell the difference.
there is this website from a bunch of devs who developed a more enhanced AI conversational voice thing, where u can talk to them.
i did for 10 minutes and it freaked me out how real it sounded. it did glitch a few times but damn. the, in real time, chatter and response was amazing and frightening at the same time ha
One of the original Toy Story developers summed it up nicely. Basically when they were doing Toy Story people were shocked you are going from hand drawn art to computers but now no one blinks an eye and most if not all anime is 'drawn' on computers. But he also stated this didn't replace artist but just gave them a new tool to use. Now with AI the author is saying it will replace writing but it won't, using it to have dynamic conversations with NPCs or chatter as the character explores the world will avoid that repetitive banter. You will still need writers to craft a good story and make a compelling character(s).
Horizon Forbidden West may have struck the right balance after adding several new tribes to the series, something which Horizon 3 should try to keep.
It literally only had 2 main games and 2 dlc.
Sure it had some spin off but others have more
Halo
Gears
Elder scroll
Uncharted
God of war
Gta
Etc.
Game isnt done yet and just because your tired of it doesn’t mean everyone is.
Exactly. (*All following #s are slightly exaggerated*) There's like 36 CODs. 16 Assassin's Creed. 25 Final Fantasies. 80 Maddens. I hate when we're on the 3rd iteration of a game and people say this.
We've had 2 main games, 2dlcs, a vr spinoff, a lego spinoff and soon to be GAAS spinoff
Why not? It's popular. They're great critically acclaimed games. It need a 3rd game.
It all depends on if it's actually a massive step forward or if it just feels like an iterative sequel. There's a lot of revisionist history now about how "mid" Horizon has always been, but people weren't saying that when Zero Dawn came out-people were pretty much universally into it. The major hit against it at the time was that it came out too close to Breath of the Wild.
The problem with Forbidden West is that it took five years and it was just an iterative sequel. Iterative sequels can be fine, or even great, but when five years pass and a new generation of consoles comes out, people expect a big jump, and they didn't get it. Stuff that worked in 2017 felt tired by 2022.
3 can't just be Forbidden West with slightly better graphics. It needs to actually be a meaningful leap.
Im looking forward to the 3rd game. I'd like that to be the last one though. New IP after would be ideal.
Took me a little while to get into Forbidden West because I was playing on hard but it was really damn good once I got into a groove.
I want to see the ending of this trilogy so hopefully it’s not too far out. Hopefully whoever plays Sylens can do the character justice.
I dunno, i LOOOOVED Zero Dawn, but i wanted Forbidden West to be over by like the halfway point. It's an absolutely gorgeous game but damn was it buggy for a while after release, and the enemies and combat felt so janky and unbalanced compared to the first.
TNS: "Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition on PC was patched with the 'PurchaseRestrictedCountri es' tag, adding region lock to 130 countries."
This is a step back for PlayStation and PC gamers. These anti consumer policies need to end.
At a time where other third parties have started to pull back on their additional logins, Sony triples down on it.
Post-launch update too. Again.
If someone is willing spend thousands on renting games and microtransactions, which are peak anti-consumer, they will put up with this. It's a step in the same direction as all the other platforms.
