At $10, the Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection upgrade fee isn’t too steep, but, given its competition, it’s needlessly frustrating.
It's a total remaster, not an upgrade patch...
Journalism is in the gutter, my rescue cat would do a better job.
Lmao. Put them all in a blender, mix well and voila! you got yourself a nice diarrhea smoothie.
Unfortunately the difference between a native version of a game for current gen consoles and a patch that simply allows the last gen version to take better advantage of current gen consoles has become totally blurred. Nowhere was this better illustrated than Ghost of Tsushima. For that game Sucker Punch launched a free patch that allows the PS4 version of the game to run at a better frame rate and resolution on PS5. Then they also released a native PS5 version of the game with additional features. Even though they gave away a free patch that takes advantage of PS5, "journalists" still accused them of "charging people for a 60 fps patch" when referring to the native PS5 version of the game.
According to DF, there isnt a whole lot of visual changes made to Uncharted. Sony could very well have done the same patch like they did with GoT. Where GoT stands out though is the extra features that were not present in the original. For Uncharted to get minimal improvements isnt saying its a bad remaster, quite the contrary. It s a testament to the level of quality and polish ND put into the original to where not much needed to be changed in order to achieve what we have now. Why Sony didnt just offer this (for those who wanted to buy the combo) as well as a free patch for those who already have the original(s) is the question on people's minds. Especially given their making free upgrades to existing games. Only Sony knows that answer. Regardless, I'm going to pay for the upgrade AND get the physical copy (I like collecting compilations to which this would be).
Is it? I was under the impression it was NOT a total remaster. What are they doing that makes it a complete remaster? But it's also only $10 for an upgrade (technically $5 per game), I wouldn't call that premium in terms of pricing - a McDonalds meal costs more. The part that stings more is for those who got it via PS+ and now have to pay full price.
There isn't much had with the remasters. They're basically just old games making use of new hardware. No different than upgrading a GPU or CPU on a PC, and seeing a difference in overall fidelity allowed. At the end of the day, it's $10 to upgrade here. It's not the end of the world. But anyone making it out like there was a bunch of work put into these is full of it. They're not; and it makes me appreciate what MS has been doing with backwards compatibility and smart delivery that much more.
Here's my thing. I own Uncharted 4, I don't own lost legacy. For $10 I get an upgraded game and the other game I don't have that's normally more than $10. There's no reason for anyone to complain really. If you're talking about how it's a full game release. If you don't own Uncharted 4 or lost legacy, probably shouldn't even be complaining to begin with. If you want though you can buy lost legacy for $20 and upgrade it. Get both for $30, still a big win
The actual improvement is negligible. It’s essentially just LoD/draw distance. The actual faults in its rendering like the low resolution reflections, volumetrics, and shadows remain in place. It is hardly befitting of the remaster label. Whereas we saw the Nathan Drake collection get wholesale improvements to textures, geometry, etc…this new collection is mostly a resolution and framerate boost. We’ve even had FREE upgrades like the Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition that offer a much larger visual gain. Metro Exodus not only DOUBLED the framerate but also instituted a fully ray traced global illumination/lighting pipeline that has a transformative effect on the visuals. That was FREE. Yet Sony is charging $10 for a basic port of one of their biggest IP’s that deserves so much better than what they got.
I've watched a few comparisons and what I'm walking away with is that the game features higher lod which shows more detail in scenes at a distance and better frame rate. I agree that it couldn't all be done in a patch however it's not something they should charge for existing owners to upgrade. If you only own the base game and not the DLC or vice versa yes the upgrade is worth it as you'll get the other game you are yet to play. Or if you intend to go see the uncharted movie you'll score a free ticket which means the upgrade actually coat you less than you would have spent on the movie ticket. If you don't fit those categories it's a hard sell and ND could have just enabled better fps In a patch and let us live with lower lod.or made the upgrade free
ND was said to have been working on this patch at the same time they did LoU2. But Sony told them not to release as they had other plans.
Just to clarify i own both the game and DLC but I'll be going to see the movie so the upgrade cost seems like a no brainer I just hope ticket redemption isn't a chore
Literally all of it could have been done in a patch. All a patch does is replace files. It’s just the same game with better LOD and performance with haptic feedback.
A lot of fake rage by those who don't even have interest in PlayStation. Seriously some of you think we don't know the history behind your comments and y'all are well know Sony is giving you the upgrade option. Not every game will give free next generation upgrades. NBA 2k started charging $70 for next gen versions. Soon enough most AAA games will cost $70 anyway it's coming q lot sooner than people realize
...fake rage. Sure, good luck with that.
God forbid consumers get annoyed at paid upgrades when the same parent company and studio has done similar upgrades for free, and their competitor is too. Must be fake rage, because consumers love paying as much as possible for things /s
Only on consoles will you find people defending paying extra money for performance on better hardware. On Pc it’s literally in the options menu. $10 on ps5!
Orchard Customers can pop in their old discs from PlayStation 4 and get to play them nowhere did they get any sort of agreement that if future consoles launch that these games would get free upgrades that's called entitlement And that other company which delayed Halo infinite for a year still launched Halo single player with missing features that have been part of past halo games after spending more than 6 years in development and close to half a billion dollar in budget Also the other company that you're talking about let that company first match the quality of AAA Blockbusters that PlayStation offers before we talk about free upgrades. Just buying the publishers doesn't mean anything until we see actual quality products. Ted Is fake rage because most analysts still predict that PlayStation 5 will outsell Xbox 2-1. From PlayStation 1 to PlayStation 5 one thing has been for sure that Sony will make amazing games that has never changed regardless of who is in charge. Just next month we are getting horizon and gt7 while Xbox is waiting for starfield which may or may not come out this year and they're still God of war Ragnarok later this year ChubbyBlade Yes you are right PC gamers always have more options but a lot of these PlayStation exclusives have only recently started coming out on PC and we still don't know what the future titles will do and how long they will stay exclusive to the platform before going to PC brewin You can buy uncharted 4 for $5 like you said and pay $10 more and get uncharted 4 and Lost legacy on PlayStation 5 so for 15 bucks you get two games As a gamer this is the way I look at it and as someone who right now has a PlayStation 5 and who will buy Xbox series X for the exclusives there is simply no excuses left either for Sony or Microsoft for not delivering amazing games. And there's still a lot of fear that just because games will be on game pass that the quality might suffer and instead of being truly AAA Blockbusters we may see more of AA mid budget titles just to have content
It could easily just be a patch. Can't tell if sarcasm or serious, but there's absolutely no reason for this to be a $50 game. U4 and Lost Legacy have been on sale for $5 on PS4 in the last year. I can only imagine the backlash other companies would get for this practice. They pushed up the price and removed the option to purchase them separate on PS4 recently. That's some shady stuff but Sony gets a pass?! These kinda remasters could easily be PS Plus benefits.
I mean if you buy the combo version of both uncharted 4 and lost legacy until recently that eoukd have cost you about $50... if you already own either if those titles it's $10. So I don't know what you are complaining about tbh. If you got it free on the ps plus collection then you got it free anyway so quit complaining.
@exterminator Would there even be an upgrade fee if they didn't include a ticket to the movie?! I don't give a damn about the movie. Give me the free upgrade and shove that movie down someone else's throat. But hey, it's a good way for them to feign success of the movie. If they sell x amount of tickets it will be attributed to the fact they gave x amount of tickets away with this thing "for free" lol.
"It could easily just be a patch." It's not, though. I don't disagree with you, either.
They could still offer a £10 upgrade to the new version if you own the original.
Not to mention that if you have one game, you get both remasters for $10 bucks.
A total waste of time.... How many times does one need to purchase and play these mediocre uncharted games? Yikes.
It’s a total remaster however They’ve specifically stayed away from showing us directly what’s different because the few screenshots that have released look identical to the original. I’m also on the side of not understanding why this is being called a remaster over just releasing as a patch. I’ve seen absolutely nothing that would grant it a remaster so far but I guess I’ll find out tomorrow.
It’s an upgrade patch. Increased LOD, performance and shadow quality isn’t a remaster.
I agree with you. This is like a single persons 5 minutes work and they will probably make a 6-7 figure sum from it. It’s an insanely greedy move from Sony and ND. The worst bit being that as this passes it will become the accepted practice. We will soon be paying for patches in general
@1nsomniac Call it greed all you want but clearly, judging from these comments on n4g alone, people will buy it. It may be scummy but it makes money
Fidelity mode, performance mode, performance plus (120fps) remastered, haptics is more than most remasters tbh
Last I checked, remasters like the Judgment remaster doubled the framerate and resolution at the SAME time on top of making sweeping changes to lighting, shadows, reflections, and even texture quality on the most random incidental objects. All uncharted really offers is the different performance options with boosted draw distances and…that’s it….did they bother to improve the pixelated shadows, volumetric effects, and reflections? No, no they didn’t. It is a barebones release
You had to buy Judgement again on PS5 though. Not even a 10$ upgrade path.
They have also done reflections, lighting etc but only a little bit.
@versus and guess what? metro Exodus Enhanced Edition was FREE and doubked the framerate while adding fully ray traced lighting that had a transformative effect on the visuals. And that was free. So either way you slice it, this uncharted collection is extremely basic
and? you were talking about judgment, he give you facts about judgment..... so you decide to move the goalpost, pathetic....
@ecchiless Sounds more like YOU are moving the goal posts. The discussion was about how much effort there is to this “remaster”. So I provided one remaster that is much more significant but since you sheep were unsatisfied with that, I provided a FREE PATCH that does so much more than the PAID upgrade for Uncharted and you’re just going to say that’s null and void? THAT is pathetic. Just going to ignore how many FREE upgrade paths like Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, A Plague Tale, and Gears 5 offered a much larger difference in visuals for FREE but this paid remaster is “more than most remasters” when in fact it’s even worse than most free upgrades. You people are so quick to defend these mega corporations at every turn. You’re all weird for that. They aren’t your parents. Calm down and stop being so offended.
Haptics arent really put to use in this. Not like in the DC versions of GoT and DS.
That down to the developers choice in how they feel it goes with the game. Have you played this then?
I prefer games to take advantage of dualsense.
I understand this upgrade is more than just a simple patch, but I wish they can give players a free 60fps patch if that's all they are looking for. And then put all other enhancements in the remaster package. How you get both game for $10 more is good value for people who owned only one of the two games for sure.
I'm sorry but what does this game offer that the competition on PC and console hasn't done for free? I'm sorry but if Sega, Remedy, or Valve was proposing that type of upgrade ppl would already throwing bricks and pitchfork for lazy work. but since It's Sony and Uncharted 4 is a great game then it's a great move? What's offered in the package that requires real hours of labor or something unique to PS5? Is there a new chapter or exclusive DLC? Did they redesign the graphics to improve polygons, including Raytracing features? A new mode like a survival mode? new playable characters like Charlie Cutter or Coop play? Nope nothing of the sort, mostly grunt work done by the premium that I paid called a PS5 console Frame boost done by the console, Resolution upgraded to 4k with mostly the assets of the Ps4 Pro (1440P) And like I said I wonder how ppl would praise EA if they would have charged a premium for the Vr mode in Starwars Squadron or for the support of the haptic in a flight stick. How about if Codemaster charges more because they have to create a haptic setting for racing wheels. Or simply Capcom charging for the Vr patch for resident Evil 8 on PSVR2 (that was done for free on PC by modders). Again Uncharted4 is a great game that should be played and praised but lazy scams tactics worthy of Activision and Take-Two shouldn't.
Sega made you buy Judgement again on PS5 without a upgrade option and Control PS5 as well. People were even ASKING for a 10$ upgrade option. Reasearch the history of the developers you mention next time.
I congratulate you on having made your research :) but ill be honest that I named them on purpose knowing full well that soneone like you would mention them (at least Remedy). And like you said Sega made you buy again Judgement for Ps5 and did they did got heat on several Yakuza forum and since then well Yakuza Lost Judgement 2 was announced with free upgrade https://www.ign.com/article... I will be also honest to say that I named Sega because they usually try from time to time pull crap like charging for extra difficulty and ppl usually call them. As for Remedy well I do remember how ppl were happy about the free upgrade that where only possible for the ultimate edition because you could find many articles like this on N4G https://n4g.com/news/236513... https://n4g.com/news/236508... https://n4g.com/news/236514... Everybody were so happy that Remedy offered the game almost day1 on PS+ as a thank you.
Pete you're reaching hard lol. Judgement 2 had a free upgrade because it was a day and date release. They didn't require extra work as the ps5 version was already developed. Can't sidetrack the fact I have judgement and don't wanna play it because I gotta rebuy the whole game to get the best version lol. But SEGA got away with it unlike what you said. But hey. Also control was bs no matter how you slice it and giving it away free on ps plus was only because they knew no one was buying it so best option was a lumpsum lol
This lazy scam gives you both games if you upgrade just one for $10. And since you mentioned Remedy, you could only upgrade Control if you bought the ultimate edition.
" And since you mentioned Remedy, you could only upgrade Control if you bought the ultimate edition." Exactly! I guess ppl do have short memory of the fuss it created because only new customers had the rights to the upgrade and hardcore supporter that paid day 1 had to repay again. Even more when the reason for the move was lie because the upgrade was offered for free for initial customer for a short time. https://www.pushsquare.com/... https://kotaku.com/the-myst... https://cogconnected.com/20... So what does it says toward PPL like me that did bought Uncharted 4 and Legacy full price?
Quick people forget how we were charged full price for remasters all last gen. TLOU Remastered was $50. I'll take the $10 upgrade any day.
So basically what you are saying is if you see a thief or a bully beating someone at school or at work every day the day he steals half of the lot or bully a bit less you will say that he's such a nice guy because he bullies less? Cause I do recall having the exact same stance when Sony was charging 40$ for a remaster that had less feature compared to what's offered for free now. I do recall saying that ppl should have been happy when Bethesda Listened to the customers when charging the high price for the Skyrim Special edition on Ps4 because PC users got the upgrade for free since they mentioned that it was basically the same game and they charged 60$ for PS user because the Playstation wanted and asked to pay more. Basically it was wrong back then and because so many ppl actually complained we have less remasters crap.
So um for starters the game engine needed porting to ps5 and all the work associated with that, then they had to actually do the upgrades they did and add dual sense and tempest engine 3D audio. Now the most important point here is that this game was released in 2016 and most of the titles you mention were released later than that I believe? Since then Naughty Dog have moved on and made a whole new game and are in advanced stages of work on other titles. This is important because it means its actually more expensive to go and reopen uncharted 4 and lost legacy's code and start changing stuff. That's the real difference here. Games like GoT released just months before the ps5 same for tlou2 the work on those was quite fresh. As such reopening the code is much easier. Also you have to remember developers need to make money. Now Metro:exodus sold OK but not anything near aswell as uncharted so it made sense to offer the upgrade free as it might entice new players that would otherwise never have touched it. At this point uncharted has been given away on ps plus, its had phenomenal sales figures and as such there is no money in a free upgrade as really the number of people out there for that to entice to pick it up would be tiny. Thus the only viable way to justify the developer time needed todo the upgrade is an upgrade path. More successful a game was originally the less viable it is for a free upgrade that takes up dev time. There is a big difference between adding stuff to a 5 or 6 year old game and releasing a game with the featured then as per your star wars squadron vr example. Remedy situation was different people were annoyed because the ultimate edition was just the original game and the dlc packed in together. If you had bought the original game and both the dlcs you had the same content as someone with ultimate edition but you were expected to pay for the whole game again full price. Also you had probably spent more on the game in total than someone with ultimate edition. That was what that fuss was all about. With this everyone is treated the same. Yeah it's a slightly better deal for people that only own one of the two titles but I suspect that's just because it was more convenient to put both games into the same executable rather than have them as two totally different programmes also they must both use some of the same assets so it probably saves SSD space.
I just don’t see the point in this. Didn’t Last of Us 2 get a next-gen patch for free? The regular Uncharted 4 bundle is $39.99 on the PSN store. Why charge for this?
Because you only need one game to get both. Also a much different upgrade than TLOU2 tbh. Nothing absolutely crazy. But there's actual texture upgrades and lighting changes and such. Not just framerate changes. The changes just aren't in your face obvious or important
Probably because the last of us 2 launched less than 6 months before ps5 released. To remaster this they had to reopen code that was 4/5 years since it had been closed and put to bed. That's alot more work.
Is that how it works?
Coming soon.net is basically arguing that developers should upgrade games for free.
Tons of developers do just that. Look at No Man's Sky alone, which definitely made less than Uncharted 4. Free PS5 upgrade. I think that they're saying the outliers of $10 upgrades should follow the majority of others who did free upgrades.
NMS is a bit of a unique case. First they were a tiny studio at launch (low cost to make), then they got Sony exclusivity cash, then they sold the game at full price and made absolute bank at launch, enough to keep them afloat years later it seems...while also destroying their reputation. Sony doesn't need a redemption story like Hello Games did, but anyway, we seemed to be pretty ok about buying TLOU Remastered for $50 (and a bunch of other remasters) when it came out, even if we owned it on PS3.
The fact it sold less than uncharted 4 is what makes a free upgrade more viable as it will actually boost sales.
***The fact it sold less than uncharted 4 is what makes a free upgrade more viable as it will actually boost sales. *** It will boost sales by making no one rebuy it? And how does its comparison in sales to Uncharted 4 have any bearing on its continuing sales at all? ***we seemed to be pretty ok about buying TLOU Remastered for $50 (and a bunch of other remasters) when it came out, even if we owned it on PS3. *** Never bought any myself, but I understand those games had to be completely rebuilt for PS4 because of how the PS3 was designed. I don't think I complained much about it because of the level of work it took to port, but still never bought in. In the end, anyway, I think they ask ended up on ps+, much like I think this will
The usual news.... It's a great upgrade. The diference modes are great. You got the graphics mode for those gamers, the 60 frames combo and the 120 frames. It changes the feel of the game. The Duelsense upgrade is also great. It's an amazing even for those who already got. But even better for those who gonna buy it now and many, many more after the movie.
the improvements are great, yes. But please dont fool yourself into thinking this is on the same level of 'remaster' as Ghost of Tsushima:DC or Death Stranding:DC. Even the dualsense implementation for this isnt up to the same level as those other two. This just combines the two games into one (physically) and applies the same performance patch like ND did with LoU2. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you ever play the game you will understand. The 60 frames option is great, but the 120 frames is really impressive. Even with lower rez. I'm reviewing the game right now. Been jumping on lost legacy on all versions and is impressive. It's really hard to go back to 30 frames on this game. The diference is night and day. What I hope is that the new AMD fsr is used more to target better rez but also allow high frame rate. I don't know how ND achieve this with a old game, but it's a great upgrade from them
I’m excited for this but I shouldn’t be right? This pissing and moaning is never ending and seems to be getting worse. The getting literally everything for free mentally is toxic AF
It's not about getting everything for free. It's about questioning why only one of the big three makes it free to play/upgrade older titles, based on your hardware.
Sony has given free upgrades for many of their games. Microsoft does best in this regard, Sony next, then Nintendo. I do agree this instance is weird, and they're definitely trying to squeeze a couple dollars out of people, but at the same time if you only own 1 of the games (and they've given out U4 for free on ps plus), you get both of them upgraded. I have both of them for PS4, but honestly will probably still upgrade. Because the collection is releasing on PC at the same time the upgrade is coming to PS5, I think it makes it easier for them to say "pay $10 to get both of these games upgraded, and if you only have 1, you get both". Really the weirdest thing to me is that the bluepoint remasters aren't on PC. I know they don't up as well gameplay wise, but jumping straight into 4 is weird.
Are you talking about Nintendo when mentioning the big 3? You pay 60 for their ports and remasters. Plus content locked to Amibos. What WiiU games do you get for free on the Switch? They don't have BC. Love how the article doesn't mention Nintendo either...i guess they are not the competition.
Did you get the Master Chief Collection free if you owned the old Halo games?
@jeece This is the third generation where Sony is trying to sell the original Uncharted games. These are simple resolution and FPS boosts; not remakes like they did with the original Halo games. The Master Chief collection offered the entire Bungie collection of games, and is available to anyone, PC or Xbox, to access the content, and is supporting servers for the multiplayer, via Gamepass. Even trying to compare one to the other shows how much you're reaching to not make this look like a cash grab for Sony. Sony loves reselling you old content. Microsoft rarely ever does it, and even your best example you came up with offered way more in terms of new content than the games in question here.
Same reason how only one of the three is able to keep COD off other platforms: a bottomless pit of cash.
Gamers today unfortunately want everything free, they want it now and then shit on it after 2 hours of gameplay. I'm embarrassed when I see completion percentages of games in trophies or achievements. Dam most gamers don't even get to chapter 2 or 3 or level 2 etc in games these days then they think they have a opinion but really there just being sheep with the rest of the gamers who hardly complete anything or give a game a reasonable amount of time.