Will the Call of Duty saga be Xbox exclusive?
Yes. CoD is a huge franchise, (even though imo, it's been going down hill). Having CoD as an exclusive on Xbox/PC and day and date on GP would be absolutely huge. And it would definitely get me back into playing CoD again
You don’t spend $70 billion to keep all you’re games on competeing platforms. I’m not saying CoD won’t be on PlayStation but it’s pretty unlikely at this point. Just like I said in a previous article, do you think Starfield and ES6 will be on PlayStation? The answer is no. Same can be said for Activision games starting in 2023.
The question here is should? I don't think so as far as CoD goes. They can make everything else Xbox/PC only but I think CoD belongs to everyone.
@My_Name_is_Earl I'm fairly sure cod belongs to Activision. I'd say you will have a hard time telling Microsoft that we all own a bit of COD
Haha, you know what I'm saying. Of course Activision own CoD but it should be accessible to all in my opinion. It's just one of those staples. As for convincing Microsoft, they've done it before with Minecraft, another gaming staple. If you're wondering if they are anymore yes; Fortnite and Fifa.
...but Starfield and ES6 werent really that far into development let alone far enough to really be missed on PS. CoD will still come to other platforms/consoles. It makes big $$ but there may be tradeoffs. Like one version will have more content than another.
"You don’t spend $70 billion to keep all you’re games on competing platforms." You do when your platform is accessible through different devices and you are looking to acquire subscribers to said platform.
COD will continue to be multiplat it makes to much money that way , Microsoft will just replace Activision as a publisher. They kept Minecraft multiplat and all releases related to that game , what will be exclusives is any new IPS that they come up with from then on. DLC will definitely hit Microsoft consoles first for sure ,
It can come to PS in for certain fashion. Sony allowing game pass on their platform. So...
Personally I hope its NOT exclusive(it won't be), they can afford it but gawd dammm thats a shiii-ton of money to give up, I know some would be recouped by new Gamepass subs but not nearly as much if you just sold it on ps, its easily the biggest ps game. Im pro-Gamepass so I dont care who else plays these games as long as it helps keep Microsoft offering ME a great deal Im in.
@Earl The moon belongs to everyone; the best things in life are free.
As mediocre as I personally think cod is, I can't deny the fact that it's a huge money maker! I know lots of Ps gamers that get the annual releases, so if it becomes exclusive to Xbox consoles it's definitely gonna put a big dent in Sony! Sony just needs to acquire Square and Capcom to even out the odds 😉
It would be extremely stupid of them to cut out their biggest install base just to have exclusivity on poorly selling consoles. COD (or any other Activision game) isn't going to propel Xbox ahead of PlayStation. Bethesda didn't, this won't either... and they know that. They would be cutting off their noses to spite their faces by making any of those games Xbox exclusives. "Let's take a console ecosystem (PS4/PS5) with roughly 130 million install base and cut them out in favor of a console ecosystem (XBONE/XBSX/S) with less than half that... that'll be a great idea!" COD's primary sales figures included PS5 accounting for 41% of sales, PS4 29%, Xbox One 19% and Xbox Series X and S 11%. Microsoft can do maths. They know they'd lose billions with exclusivity.
Honestly, CoD hasn't been good in ages, they've gone woke with their newest game, it's totally in the shitter as a franchise right now. They're out of ideas and it's stagnant. Sony needs to counter by expanding Guerilla Games and having them bring back Killzone. Plus maybe buy Rockstar and make GTA 6 and Read Dead 3 PS5 exclusive, could you imagine?
@wiz If you think Microsoft will make Call of Duty multi-platform just so Call of Duty can sell more units, you're not thinking strategically enough. Call of Duty is obviously a huge system seller. If people purchase an Xbox just so they can play the exclusive Call of Duty, Microsoft will have created an opportunity to sign those players up with... you guessed it- Game Pass $$$.
I don't think they'll recuperate their costs at a good time for their investors otherwise. They'll probably put games on other platforms until the returns enable them to go exclusive.
The funniest part is, Phil Spencer's own words back up what I said ("Microsoft doesn't buy IPs to take them away from other platforms."), so you can disagree all you want, but the fact of the matter is MS is in it for the money, and there is no money in cutting out 60% of a game's install base. There also has never been any money in Microsoft selling consoles. They have lost billions on their hardware, and the only profits the Xbox brand has ever made came from their software and services, so it's only a natural evolution for them to start focusing on that over trying to sell hardware that 4 generations worth of sales have proven cannot sell enough to be profitable. They still can't sell consoles in Japan... so why not offer services and games to the consoles that can and make their money that way? Like it or not, Microsoft is going multiplatform (they already did, this just further cements that in) and getting out of the hardware race. Unlike their fanboys, they are in it for the dollar, not for bragging rights.
Xbox and PC are huge platforms. Having CoD as a console exclusive for Xbox will move hardware. The cut in revenue for having it on Playstation wouldn't make up for the realistic increase in direct sales, which they'd then make 100% of, and definite pick up in sales of hardware.
So now that its exclusive...youre interested in what you werent interested in. You are all over these new articles...and your are bizarre. What type of creature are you? In all seriousness you be you...its fun to read.
He's interested because it'll be on Gamepass anyway which he has. Read what is written not what you want to see.
@earl Okay so he's suddenly interested in a game that he wasn't interested in before simply because it's on gamepass...isn't that worse?
No it’s not worse. It means he doesn’t have to pay $60 for what many people feel like has been an expansion for the past 10 years.
@chubby So let me get this straight. If now no one has to pay 60$ for a product and instead something like a few cents if you were to split all the money evenly between games you get access to...somehow you think that'll end as a better product... But I do get that since it'll be in gamepass you may at least try it out when you otherwise wouldn't bother...I get that...but that's not good for the product.
It's free! Of course that makes it more interesting!
He worded it really bad, made it sound like now its exclusive so he is interested, I think or I hope he meant now that it's on gamepass he will play it seeing as its basically free now for gamepass customers.
He am and ain’t so not be.
Its already on Xbox and PC day and date so nothing has changed. Making Call.of Duty exclusive only removes around 7million gamers for its servers and forces them to go where they can.play it if they so choose. IMO its not likely because in Phil Spencer words ' Microsoft doesn't purchase IP to take it away for other platforms'. But to counter that Phil Spencer has never been known for truth about anything. Question.....Why does CoD being a Xbox game get you back into it. Nothing will change as far as the game goes at least for the better?
I said day and date on GP. I would definitely try any new CoD (and even get back into the older ones) if it was on Game Pass. Removing CoD on Playstation would make consumers purchase a Xbox or a PC either way this would be good for MS (if it happens at all). MS already dropped 60+ billion for Activision i'm sure them loosing 7 million users is a drop in the bucket for them if there's even a bucket they care about. If people really want to play CoD that bad they'll get a PC or Xbox.
@SpineSaw, Spencer said the same thing with the Bethesda deal. MS has said they would allow game pass on PS. So technically theh aren't taking it away. It would be on Sony.
"Removing CoD on Playstation would make consumers purchase a Xbox or a PC either way this would be good for MS (if it happens at all)." PlayStation gamers will be stuck with just the two PS5 Call of Duty games, the eight PS4 games, including the ones given out through PS+, and the free to play Warzone. And Battlefield, Rainbow Six, Apex Legends, and whatever else an opportunistic publisher inevitably comes up with to fill the void. Surely they'll flock to Xbox.
@gangsta 7 million players at £70 is £490 mill per game. Not including in game purchases. Removing the game from ps would be a stupid decision.
Anything that’s not an mmo or not free to play will become exclusive for new titles
I say no. Ideally I would say M$ should fully transition CoD to a GaaS title, dedicate one studio to it, and free up all the others to work on the wealth of other IPs Activition has -- which can be exclusive to Xbox. It can be on gamepass, but imo it should be treated more like Fortnite than like Halo.
This is actually not a bad idea and I had the same idea for Madden/NBA 2k which I refuse to pay for.
It's still sinking in that Microsoft own Infinity Ward. What a turn and I hope for the better. Now all of the criticism for games will be directed at squarely at Microsoft. This is so weird.
That's never going to happen for two reason. 1 - DOJ 2 - lawsuit from investors why? because 70 billion will take 40-50 years if its only xbox/gamepass platform. Bethesda alone will take 7 billion
7 billion as in 5 years
Sadly we are to the point where a lot of our favorite games will be exclusive to some platforms. Sony will most likely counter so if Xbox gamers are Happy today will they be happy if Capcom and square belong to PlayStation. I think Sony wouldn't have done anything like that but now they have to react because from the looks of it Ms isn't stopping They want as many games as possible because to them GP could be a service Netflix and they can charge a premium for it
"if Capcom and square belong to PlayStation." That's big if, so far Sony has not shown the willingness to drop a huge amount of money on developers or publishers. As of now MS would be more willing to buy Capcom or Square. There was a time I would have said even that wouldn't be possible but now that's off the table. I think Sony will respond, but somewhat later down the line. Their first order of business it seems is making their PSnow/PSnetwork look more attractive the same way Live and GP is. But who knows, no one saw this purchase coming so the same could be said with Sony's future of purchases.
so because you wouldnt have to pay any extra for it you would play it again? says a heap about the state of the game - its been boring since BO3 with little done to freshen the series up - warzone was a decent attempt but stopped playing pretty quickly as too many pc cheaters
10 plus milion buy cod, how do you think they will recoup those lost sales physical and digital full price purchases when it's on GP ? That's right MT and GaaS.
So basically like every CoD game now
It being exclusive/on GP would get you back into it, not whether it's worth playing again? I don't think I understand why people play games anymore. Otherwise, business-wise, I can't say if it's good to go exclusive until they can produce enough hardware to get people over from Sony enough. Until they can get those 50m+ numbers, probably best to keep it multiplatform. Costs won't increase that much but profits will almost double.
"It being exclusive/on GP would get you back into it, not whether it's worth playing again? I don't think I understand why people play games anymore." Not really what i said or meant. I haven't been interested in any of the latest CoD's, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't try any of the new CoD's when it comes to GP. If MS decides to put the older ones on there I could get back into those like Modern Warfare, since that is the one I was really into and don't currently own. "Otherwise, business-wise, I can't say if it's good to go exclusive until they can produce enough hardware..." I disagree, i think by the time the next CoD comes out (after Vanguard?) there should be enough hardware on the shelves. The word is already out that CoD might go Xbox platform exclusively so by that time people should either have an Xbox or PC to play the next iteration in the series. So it should definitely go exclusive. Warzone though will definitely stay on all platforms and that is where MS could make a lot of their profits across all platforms and then keep the separate CoD's for their own platform.
***Not really what i said or meant.*** Exactly what you said. ***i think by the time the next CoD comes out (after Vanguard?) there should be enough hardware on the shelves.*** Glad you're not making the decisions. In over a year they only sold 12m hardware and semiconductor issues aren't going away. Combine with losing its biggest market of over 100m consoles? And PC market isn't changing, so no movement on that. Bad choice. You need to think more profit focused here. You're not.
"Exactly what you said." As someone else said up top; "Read what is written not what you want to see." "Glad you're not making the decisions. In over a year ..." Your take on this is archaic and not relevant in today's gaming industry, so i guess MS is lucky we are both not in charge. MS is not focused on hardware sales to make a profit. They are pushing for more subscriptions through Live and GP which makes them even more money than a one time sale of a console that depreciates over time and more than likely MS takes a loss selling their consoles for lower than what the cost is to manufacture. https://www.pcmag.com/news/... Both Sony and MS have said that MAU should be the new metric for financial success, not strictly hardware sales. https://www.gameinformer.co... Which is why it would benefit MS to keep CoD off Playstation and have it for Xbox/PC only, then promote new CoD games on Game Pass to attract new subscribers which i'm sure most would jump from the Playstation base. Especially any hardcore CoD players. Let's not forget, MS is playing on an entirely different field when it comes to money. They can afford to lose a player base if it means in the long run gaining more monthly active subscribers. You need to think more long term and about player engagement and you're not.
"Having CoD as an exclusive on Xbox/PC and day and date on GP would be absolutely huge. And it would definitely get me back into playing CoD again." Can you explain to me what "it" in that second sentence refers to without any reference to anything but the former sentence, wherein you hype up it being an exclusive and on GP? If we, as the reader, don't know what "it" is, then the only conclusion is that "it" is tied to your previous sentence(s). So, no. If you want to not be misunderstood, explain "it" in the future. Otherwise, accept that this is what you said because you failed to explain "it." Further ambiguity, your previous sentence said you think it's been going downhill, but, hey, you'll get back into it because of "it." ***Both Sony and MS have said that MAU should be the new metric for financial success, not strictly hardware sales.*** Do you know what you need to have MAU? Sales, market reach, etc. They said it's a priority way of defining games, but MAU for 15m versus MAU for 30m is definitely something you want to look at. ***You need to think more long term and about player engagement and you're not.*** I literally am. I said to go exclusive when you have the 50m+ market reach on console. You're not thinking short-term profits. I'm definitely thinking long-term, wherein they go exclusive because they don't have to worry about market reach as people likely transition from Playstation to Xbox over 3 to 4 years.
It : used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified. Meaning Game Pass, the last thing I mentioned and identified as wanting CoD to be added too. Real talk, even if I did say what you think I did...why would it matter to you? Why would you bring it up other than to cause an argument about it as we're doing now? This is even after I explained what I meant, you're still talking about it. "Do you know what you need to have MAU? Sales, market reach, etc." Which is happening now. Gamers are already discussing the possibility of having to switch over to Xbox/PC to play the next CoD. The marketing has already happened with the news of MS buying Activision trending and being reported everywhere. As you can see from the comments here alone, PS only players are wondering if they need to play CoD on Xbox or PC. Imagine other forums and social media sites discussing the same. "I said to go exclusive when you have the 50m+ market reach on console" That could possibly happen sooner by the time the next CoD is announced, based on current development times, 4 to 5 years. The semi conductor issue could be solved by then or MS could easily have the next CoD be cross gen with Xbox One. Combine that with PC crowd which is growing https://www.techradar.com/n... ***A report published by Jon Peddie Research back in 2020 suggested that the PC gaming hardware market would rise by $3.6 billion to a value of $36.9 billion by the end of last year. Not only did it hit that target, but a new estimated value of $45.6 billion is projected by the end of 2021 despite the ongoing hardware shortages and the global Covid-19 pandemic*** Meaning there would be no need for the next CoD to be multiplatform on PS consoles. I don't think MS will care loosing that player base on that side when establishing that Xbox/PC will be the only place to play such a juggernaut of a game. Again, MS is playing with a stupid amount of money here and they could afford to take the risk the same way they are with Starfield and the new Elder Scrolls. But who knows, we're both speculating here. And in all honesty it could go either way and I would be happy with either decision. My main excitement comes from the thought of CoD games being on Game Pass and because of that, IT would definitely get me back into playing the game. https://content.screencast....
***It : used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified. Meaning Game Pass, the last thing I mentioned and identified as wanting CoD to be added too.*** This is exactly what I said originally and you said I was wrong. I can't even. The "/" between exclusive and on GP is an either/or, not both. And my point still stands that you still wanted to play it because it's on GP, not because you wanted to because it was worth playing. ***Which is happening now. Gamers are already discussing the possibility of having to switch over to Xbox/PC to play the next CoD.*** It's happening now, but they're discussing it? Which is it? And, Microsoft isn't suddenly going to get those millions of PS fans on Xbox/PC in a year. Kind of hard when they won't even have enough hardware to cover them and they just noted they're stopping production of Xbox One. ***A report published by Jon Peddie Research back in 2020 suggested that the PC gaming hardware market would rise by $3.6 billion to a value of $36.9 billion by the end of last year.*** You might want to understand context: crypto market buying up every GPU under the sun for crypto farming. ***Meaning there would be no need for the next CoD to be multiplatform on PS consoles.*** PlaySation, in that same year you just mentioned, was almost 50% of the CoD market alone. You can mention hardware all you want when those same PC gamers aren't buying and playing CoD at the same level as PlayStation gamers have.
No. And this is coming from an Xbox guy. I think they should treat CoD like they did Minecraft. Cod is insanely popular (beats me) and kind of a gaming culture staple. It should be accessible to all gamers no matter the platform. Microsoft have done this before with the aforementioned Minecraft so it isn't unreasonable to think they'll do it again. The thing however that excites me about the acquisition is the many people of Raven Software, Beenox, Toys for Bob etc. no longer being relegated to CoD support teams! That frees them up to create so many other games similar to how MS has allowed teams like Ninja Theory to work on small projects like Project Mara while working on their tentpole project; Senua's Saga. Microsoft seems to be open to whatever games the teams want to make. The other great potential here is that CoD can hopefully be given more time to breathe! Give them time to make something actually worth buying again! In short, no CoD should not be exclusive to Xbox and upsides to this the potential freeing of CoD support studios
You are you only focussed on COD, Activision make other games too!
Not that you'd really know it in recent years :/
Seeing as the article is about Call of Duty....?
Activision focused almost all their studios to push out COD yearly. Their actions are proof enough.
Ask 75% of gamers and they wouldn't know what else Activision made, I think that says it all. Blizzard and mobile king are the main assets here
one aspect of this buyout is it now gives MS more games to spread out throughout the year instead of only at certain times.
There is still no native ps5 version of Minecraft.
theres no ps5 browser so you cant even gamepass it
You aren't missing much! The PS4 Pro version is indistinguishable.
CoD is not even close to as big as Minecraft. And completely different types of games. Minecraft is more a Fortnite & Roblox type of update where they try to keep a single experience with updates coming to it and being added to it as the years go on. CoD is no bigger than Elder Scrolls. The best selling CoD was Black Ops which sold 30m copies. The best selling Elder Scrolls game was Skyrim which also sold 30m copies. And just like Bethesda... the CoD games already on other platforms will continue to get full support. All new titles... will be anywhere that Game Pass is. So if Sony wants CoD games on their system they are going to need to offer Game Pass on it.
Skyrim wass an anomaly at the time. Yes Elder Scrolls was popular before then but Skyrim catapulted the series into mainstream even beyond games media and culture! CoD on the other hand routinely sells upwards of 20 million every single year for the last 10+ years!
Minecraft was already on playstation before the acquisition. So no they haven't done it before.
It is available to all. Buy a pc or xbox, hey presto!
The playstation gamer I am says it shouldn't be but it probably will be. Word is regulators won't allow CoD to become exclusive
There's no such word. Whomever is saying that is only saying what they hope will be the case or at the very least a form of damage control! I do however hope they keep CoD on all platforms.
@chicken Please explain about the regulators.
Wedbush expect the Federal Trade Commission and the Justice Department to get involved and try to prevent CoD becoming exclusive due to the effect it could have on PS console sales. That's according to Eurogamer's live blog
Regulators do not deal with individual game titles. Simply not something they do.
Personally, I hate exclusivity. It is wrong no matter what company does it. Gamers are gamers no matter what platform they own. Exclusivity separates the gaming community between haves and have nots. Whether it is Mario, Metroid, Halo, Zelda, Forza's, GT, TLOU, God of War, Gears of War, Candy Crush, WoW, Diablo, Crash, Doom, Wolfensteing, Elder Scrolls, Ratchet & Clank, Killzone, Spider-man or whatever... Exclusivity does nothing to bring the gaming community together.