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Unit sales are only one factor in the sequel equation

Decision-making over franchises can seem obscure, but there's usually solid logic behind such investment -- and sales are only part of the puzzle.

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Flawlessmic1258d ago

Ghosts is a redicously much better game than days gone, like its not even close.

The last tomb raider was awesome aswell!

Sequal equation is it needs to be a hit with the players simple as that, bonus points if its a hit with the critics aswell.

Days gone was neither a hit with players or critics so yea

Chriswheeler221258d ago

Metacritic user reviews says other wise. It ain't perfect but was a solid 8.

MadLad1258d ago

Gamers will give a title a 10 out of merit just to support their favorite brand.

The general consensus from most reviews was it was an above average title, but not nearly of the quality of games like God of War, Spider Man, or Horizon; thus the above average but not amazing aggregate score.

neutralgamer19921258d ago

Ted

For a brand new IP coming from a studio which hadn't done a AAA blockbuster since PS2 days it was a good 8/10

And something to build from but issue is now a days being a white male hero in a video game is a bad thing(and this is coming from a brown guy)

Sony gave bend permission to do a new IP so that's much more riskier than a sequel. New IP's take a lot to establish

Honestly all the good executives at Sony left at least those who had a good personality. Uncle Jack, Andrew house, Shawn and many more. Jim is a suit that's all and whether he was in charge or not PS5 would be selling the same. I just hope he doesn't ruin the brand

SurvivorGirl1258d ago

Maybe it was an 8 but a metacritic score won't sell copies and that the whole reason companies make games is to make MONEY ! Sells is the sole determining factor in theater a game gets a sequel.

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anast1258d ago

It came out in the wrong generation. The biker thing did not go over well with a lot of today's hipsters and then we got a wave of university people that learned some social theories in the most shallow way possible and tried to apply their misunderstandings to video games, which lead to a sizable infusion of neoliberal identity politics.

Also, the game had some strange design choices. I got halfway through the game when I started to wish Deacon would stop talking to himself. Boozer should have been the main. In my opinion, his story is deeper than the run of the mill love story we get with Deacon.

For what it's worth I enjoyed this game. The stealth "kills" offset the other things that got in the way of a dated but otherwise decent game.

Magog1258d ago

I don't get this take. In Days Gone one of the primary NPCs is a lesbian and her relationship features prominently in the game.

anast1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

Read the articles about Deacon St. John being a "white protagonist" (IGN, Kotaku and Polygon, I think). This alone made the "lesbian" NPC irrelevant in the minds of identity politicians. Also, the "social theory crowd" enjoys critiquing the issue where "lesbians etc" are often relegated to secondary roles and so on.

They are self-misinformed because the same crowd does nothing to change the state of actuality, which means they remove praxis from social theories they espouse, thus leading to a dramatic misunderstanding of social theories that deal with "liberation" and the things for which they fight (larp).

The self-misinformed writers added to the overall critique of the game, which affects sales. The take holds up just fine, you just don't agree with it.

anast1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

@Ted (edit: I just noticed you responded to someone else)

brewin1258d ago

Yeah I think this gets overlooked a lot when it comes to this game. There was a lot of hoopla about biker culture and the average white guy protagonist. It basically fell victim to cancel culture. Oh well, nothing wrong with 1 and dones!

MadLad1258d ago

That gets repeated a lot, but that narrative doesn't hold up.

The game sold millions. There was, like, one relevant review that even made it onto metacritic saying anything like that.
Most of the average rated reviews more touched on it being buggy at launch, monotonous gameplay loops, and an extremely slow first half of the game. They didn't dock it 3 points from perfection because "gruff white guy".

They did it because it was an average experience. People just can't deal when a 1st party title gets any less than an 8.5
If this game was a 9 or a 10, then God of War should have been a 13.

senorfartcushion1258d ago

Cancel culture isn’t a thing. It’s something that rich people want you to say because they are starting to want to say what they want.

Public speech is the one thing that rich people can’t buy, so now we have to contend with cancel culture.

brewin1258d ago

Regardless of everything, I thought it deserved a sequel.

senorfartcushion1258d ago

I’m a university person and I liked the aesthetic. Stop creating fake sides and being a bad individualist.

anast1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

Specific circumstances do not always fit general circumstances and the other way around. This is not a necessity. As a university person you should know the difference, or may be the problem runs much deeper than I previously thought.

The sides were and are not fake. They are actual in society. I didn't not give this game the Kotaku treatment. Kotaku and the like did. I would like to know how you came to the conclusion that I am an individualist or is this the misunderstood part I was talking about? I would also like to know the philosophical system you used to moralize my comment?

There are way too many issues to get into. The main one is that educational institutions, for the most part, have failed. I am a university person too and I am not offended by my comments.

DeathTouch1258d ago

People don’t seem to decide if it’s either: go woke and go broke or the SJW are hurting sales…? Maybe the game was just average, and it shows.

MadLad1258d ago

It was store brand Last of Us with an open world.

anast1258d ago

It's not an all or nothing proposition. Some also happens. This line of thinking is an oversimplification. I agree that it was and still is and average game. However, average experiences get 10s too. This is an issue that extends beyond gaming, and I mentioned a part of the trend.

It is both by the way SJW and the go wokers, both are inane and recationary.

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Urrakia341258d ago

Days Gone for me was just an "alright" game. Gameplay was decently entertaining with hordes as the highlight, but the characters and story were pretty damn generic and uninteresting. I mean, the protagonist's name is literally Deacon St. John and for me it epitomized the severe lack of creativity overall. Basically felt like I was playing a watered-down open-world version of The Last of Us with a story not remotely as captivating.

LucasRuinedChildhood1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

The lack of creativity really stuck out compared to other 1st party games like Horizon.

The start of the story (combined with flashbacks) is a zombie outbreak with Deacon protecting a blonde, injured loved one called Sarah, and her no longer being in his life destroys him from the inside out.

[The Last Of Us theme plays]

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The Days Gone Remaster Is an Unsurprising Cash-Grab and Nothing More

Honestly, who is the Days Gone remaster for? Fans of the original won't find anything new here.

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Christopher46d ago

I don't know why you're being downvoted. It is a new thing in the remaster. Perhaps it's not worth the $10 upgrade if you've played. But, I mean, if you never played the game, then just wait for it to go on sale, forget about it, and continue not playing it like you did for the last 6 years?

TheEroica46d ago

The downvotes are likely from the excuses... Horde mode doesn't obsolve Sony from cash grabbing its easily duped fanbase.

S2Killinit45d ago

I love how people call this a money grab while the real money grabbing is in other genres. But, I think people who are that dumb deserve to be fed with skins and micro-transactions, and don’t get to complain that single player games of this caliber are few and far in between.

IAMRealHooman45d ago

@TheEroica
they changed the header. it was originally the " Remaster has nothing new" or something similar.

Christopher45d ago

It's still in the description: "Fans of the original won't find anything new here."

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princejb13446d ago

Days gone is amazing regardless and for those that didn’t play the original I highly recommend.

SimpleSlave46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Yes. All of Sony's Remasters - all the ones stemming from the PS4 library - are cash-grabs. When all they needed to do was patch them to run at 60fps, up the resolution, and be done with it. But then they had to actually care about Bloodborne, and that's a cardinal sin over at Sony.

On a side note. I just got The Sinking City Remastered for free, because I owned the game. Weird...

anast46d ago

The Bloodborne thing is a real issue.

SimpleSlave46d ago

I'm sure they banish people to the Nightmare Frontier if they as much as whisper the name in the office.

Bebedora46d ago

Cash-grab or not. As long the Bend Studio gets their share, I am for it. I don't know, but I still hope for making of a second title. However, in a way It's a cash-grab. They still put something extra to it (horde mode), that is.

anast46d ago

lol Yeah they seem to hate the idea of a new Bloodborne anything.

I've still got to play the shrinking city. I enjoy Lovecraftian stuff.

RaidenBlack46d ago

Hope the recent remasters like Sinking City and Oblivion, ups the ante and alters the industry's approach.
But what fans really want is just a straight up sequel ... oh and add sequel to 1886 as well.

GhostScholar46d ago

I would love a days gone sequel. Days gone to me is such a better game than the last of us. The world in days gone was so great.

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mkis00746d ago (Edited 46d ago )

To me they appeal to different players outside of just being zombie games. I like them both, but days gone is more fun to me. The last of us 2 is my murder game though along with red dead 2 and gta 5. Love the realistic violence.

jznrpg45d ago

I’m a big fan of Days Gone but TLOU is a better made game. How much you enjoyed each game is of course up to you.

neutralgamer199246d ago

With the recent cancellation of Bend Studio’s live-service project, there’s now a real and exciting opportunity for the studio to revisit Days Gone 2. This might be the perfect time for Sony to greenlight the sequel—especially with the PS6 likely on the horizon—because Days Gone already has a strong foundation, a passionate fanbase, and significant untapped potential.

It’s worth remembering that Days Gone was Bend Studio’s first major AAA title developed for a home console. Before that, the studio had primarily worked on portable systems like the PSP and PS Vita, or acted as a support studio. That leap to a full-scale open-world console game was ambitious, and although the game launched in a somewhat rough state, that context is crucial to understanding its initial reception.

Gaming critics were often harsh in their reviews, frequently comparing Days Gone to other PlayStation exclusives that came from more seasoned console studios like Naughty Dog or Santa Monica Studio. Despite these comparisons and the early technical issues, Days Gone still went on to sell over 7.6 million copies—a remarkable achievement for a new IP. Even more importantly, Bend Studio listened to fan feedback and steadily improved the game through patches, updates, and optimizations. Today, Days Gone stands as a much more polished and enjoyable experience than it was at launch.

That kind of growth shows Bend Studio’s resilience and potential. A sequel would not only benefit from their hard-earned experience, but also avoid many of the pitfalls that affected the original’s development. Much of the foundational tech, gameplay systems, and world-building has already been done, meaning the studio can focus more on innovation and storytelling rather than reinventing the wheel.

Compared to the high-risk, long-development timeline of a new IP—which could take 5+ years just to get through pre-production—returning to Days Gone is both a smarter and more efficient route. If Sony and Bend Studio commit to Days Gone 2 now, there’s a strong possibility it could be a key PS6 launch title—offering a fan-driven, proven IP with greater polish, depth, and scope.

Let’s not forget Bend Studio’s deep legacy either. This is the same team that brought us Syphon Filter, a series that helped define early PlayStation experiences. With the right support and direction, they can absolutely deliver a worthy sequel that lives up to the franchise’s potential and the studio’s legacy

Harkins172146d ago

Loved it on PS5. Cant wait to play again at somepoint on PC when on sale

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PlayStation - The Concert "Changes Everything" for Music Lovers

PlayStation - The Concert is a magical musical experience for fans of the brand.

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Days Gone PS5 Is a 'Really Good Piece of Work', Say Tech Experts

Sammy writes: "Back when Days Gone Remastered was announced, many fans were squinting to see the differences between the excellent original PS4 version and its PS5 re-release.

But now with the game readily available – and our 8/10 review declaring it the “definitive version of a fan favourite” – we’re beginning to get some meaningful tech analysis.

And according to Digital Foundry, this is not just the bare-bones resolution upscale some had anticipated – “a lot of effort has gone into it”, according to the tech experts. "

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IAMRealHooman60d ago

First game sell well enough to warrant a sequel? Our received well enough?

Alos8860d ago

It sold well but reviewed only okay, which apparently wasn't enough for Sony.

Cacabunga60d ago

Sold well and received even better.. had a bad first month due to technical issues but ended up being one of the best games from last gen

Knightofelemia60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

That's the nature of the beast. If a game like a movie does not meet certain numbers then they write off the franchise. EA scrapped DS2 because the DS1 remake did not meet certain numbers. I was hoping the remaster of DG and the fact it also came to PC would convince Sony to green light a DG sequel.

PanicMechanic60d ago

Critic reviews were appalling. The worst reviewed game I’ve ever seen. By that I mean, poor quality journalism, dishonest writing and review scores which are out of touch with fan reception.

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anast60d ago

Fans are having fun with this one.