Are video games now better than before?
My first console was a sega megadrive and i have owned every console and handheld since then outside of the nintendo 64, original xbox, nintendo wii u. I enjoyed every gen i dont think u say any era is the golden era. the games may look and play better now but at the time of release they all looked and played better and my enjoyment of them was the same so id say u cant really pick a golden era. If u wanna nail down a particular golden console then id easily say it has to be ps2, the amount of quality games we got was insane and sequals didnt take 5 years to make either. 3 gta games 3 dmc games 2 gran turismo games 3 final fantasy games Both need for speed undergrounds 2 kindom hearts games 2 metal gear solid Ico Shadow of the colusses 2 god of wars 3 jak and daxters Racket and clanks Could keep going all day lol Ok im wrong, you can pick a golden era ps2 era was the golden era 😂😂
My first console was MSX. My next console that really got me into gaming was Sega Mega Drive.
My first console was a megadrive. Ps1 came after that. Been owning a playstation since
I also started with a Mega Drive, then went on to own the PS1/SNES/Saturn/ect... Strangely, I never owned a Dream Cast, don't ever remember seeing them on the shelves in Australia.
PS1 also need to talk with you.
Yeah I'd agree with the PS1 era, the lower development costs in comparison to future generations meant we got a lot of little gems of games. For every AAA game I can think of in that generation, there was something like Hogs of War or Bishi Bashi Special which largely flew under the radar but offered great experiences.
What I like about older games is that u didn’t need to update them every month or pay for dlc the full experience was in the cartridge, even bk them when I played gouls and ghosts I was like wow in terms of graphics lol
My first console was the Sega master system and owned nearly every console and handheld since. Currently own ps4 Pro, xbox-one, 3ds psp and wii. Ps2, og xbox was my golden era, so many great game on both consoles.
As awesome as the ps2 ear was, I'd still pick ps1! It was jrpg heaven and the console that established a lot of franchises you see till this day... Final Fantasy 7,8,9 Xenogears chrono cross Metal gear solid Resident evil 1,2,3 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night Silent hill Crash bandicoot Gran turismo Vagrant story Final Fantasy tactics Legend of Dragoon PARASITE eve Mortal kombat trilogy Tomb raider DMC Omnimusha And so so many more! This was not the golden era, this was the platinum era! 👍👌😎
I’d say the same about ps3/360 gen. 2 gtas, 3 uncharteds, 3 mass effects, 4 gears of wars, 3 halos, 3 ratchet and clanks, 3 bio shocks, the last of us, 2 infamous, 2 killzones, 3 resistances… and on and on.
Agree, this is the dlc-micro-transacrions-nft' ;s era, and the buggy launch games era, and the remasters era, definitely not the golden era, at least not for gamers, now when it comes to publishers that's another story, this one is definitely the golden era for them.
My for system was the NES baby. “Now your playing with Power!” I can remember being a kid and there was rarely a more exciting feeling than tearing the shrink wrap off of a new game and sticking the cartridge in the console for the first time to start a new adventure. Well usually it took two or three times because of the need to blow in the cartridge and then shift it around while pressing the reset button to get the game aligned just right. I have to say though, once I take the nostalgia glasses off I notice that not only has the quantity of games increased, but as a whole the quality is considerably better. Back then and as a child you mostly picked out a game by looking at the box art and the screenshots on the back. You had no idea what the gameplay was going to be like until you got home. Back then it seemed that for every truly awesome NES game there were 2 truly terrible games. But when you found the right game it was a bliss.
Absolutely! it was also a time when console gaming was everything in Japan, there was a huge amount of creativity coming out of the Japanese studios in those days.
Idk, PS2 was great, but the SNES and PS1 eras where fantastic too, lots of good memories there.
I agree had every console since the atari 2600 and theres not really a golden era its just as technology has progress the games have to. But if at the time say when the atari 2600 launched you didn't know any better so that was the golden era of gaming .Then another console launches and the cycle repeats
Which, ironically, is 20 years ago. Not sure why Sonic 1 is used in the thumbnail. I completely agree with you. On top of that, we got the entire Onimusha series, a ton of JRPGs (including 2 phenomenal Persona games), and so much more. I'm pretty stuck in the past since I have always loved offline multiplayer, and I still haven't taken to online gameplay very much. Very few exceptions (Warkhawk, Metal Gear Online for MGS4, and Resident Evil Outbreak are pretty much it). For sure, Gen 6 was grand. No MTs, games were complete with great QC, EA and Konami actually gave a damn, AA games still existed, developers could afford to get weird and experimental, there was better balance between western and Japanese games, budget-to-retail price was reasonable, dev teams weren't too big, on and on and on. Only issue I have with G6—which wasn't a problem at the time—was the limitation of technology. A game like The Last of Us would really be hurt by the tech at the time, and God of War would really lack the grand scale it has now. That said, I have phenomenal memories of G6, particularly PS2 and GameCube (Xbox to the extent that Ninja Gaiden really blew me away at the time). My PS2 is still hooked up and I do revisit games all the time (and still buy some oldies periodically). I think I'll revisit Shinobi and Nightshade next month. Last game I replayed on the PS2 was Siren (back in Oct/Nov). Games now aren't bad, but definitely not my favorite eras. Not by a mile. Long winded way of saying, "I totally agree". 🙂
I started with Atari 2600 and Intellivision I forget what I got first and then NES all the way to PS5 . I didn’t get a few consoles over the years before this gen , Atari Jaguar , Xb1 , 3DO is all that I can remember besides the super obscure stuff I owned them all. PS2 had so many good games I missed playing all of the great ones just too many
Started with sega, snes, game gear, gameboy, sega saturn, ps1, n64, ps2, ps3, vita, ps4, switch, ps5. I want to get my first Xbox. Didn't have the atari, dream cast, game cube, x360, but my family did. Been gaming since I hopped out my mom, controller in hand.
First console was a Sega Master System, had an NES too, then Genesis. Though gaming did not really hit home for me until the original PlayStation (Saturn too), just seemed to have the exact mix of games, style and design in line with my interests. There is no doubt though that the PS2 era was the true peak of that climb started the gen before.
It was. 20 years ago we had finished games on day one, without a shitty timed exclusive or dlc strategy. We got dreamcast, ps2, gamecube and xbox with awesome games.
There were also bugs back then that completely broke games or save games, it wasn’t like everything was perfect and there was no way to patch those!
There were but that was excessively rare. It might have been more common with shitty games looking to make a quick buck off a movie license but that's it. I'm not saying you're completely wrong. It's a good thing to be able to patch games post launch to avoid those issues. However instead of using patches to fix post launch issues, devs nowadays use them as a means to release a broken mess ASAP and MAYBE just MAYBE fix these issues eventually. I popped Skyrim last year and it still had most of the issues from 2011 yet they had the means, money and manpower to fix it but didn't. We need an inbetween. Devs need to release an actually finished product and use patches for their intended purpose.
on really really rare occasions.
How many games from back then do you remember that were utterly broken to how games many games in the last year? They actually had game testers to make sure games that were released weren’t broken unless it was a LJN game, as opposed to games today’s with minimal quality testing, releasing it broken regardless, make an apology with a roadmap to fix something they sold, then decide it isn’t worth the effort to fix their game. Rinse and repeat.
You clearly weren’t around then.
It was bad on pc, I've bought so many broken/unfinished games back in the day. Most Bethesda games were generally unfinished and pretty damn buggy, especially Daggerfall and Terminator Skynet. Did enjoy Daggerfall a lot despite everything, main story was broken without the patch and I don't think I've ever exited the game voluntariely. Also bought lot games published by Gametek, they rarely worked. Being an adventureous pc gamer in the 90s was rough, but a lot of the great games were among the best. This topic reveals who grew up with consoles who grew up with pc. I'd also say that a lot of the pc ports on ps1 were borderline unplayable, like Xcom: Terror from the deep with its 10 minute long loadtimes and CIV 2 where the ai's turns got longer and longer as the game progressed. There's a lot of ports that probably never should have been released. But the console space has a better track record.
Even the journalism was golden. Now it's just brown.
And devs made game show they wanted without pressure from games media to make them how they want. Which is a huge bonus since games journalism has gone down the drain.
They still do.
Long live the Mega Drive, love that console and still play some of the goldies today. Its my pick for golden era as both Mega Drive and SNES were amazing and still are. But everyone will have their own golden era for sure.
Very true. Old games are objectively garbage, lol
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but Chrono trigger is goat and it came out on the snes Until square enix does a proper remake that's just the facts
Just like your opinion is objectively garbage
Most new games are garbage!!
Very true they depend on people who don't read reviews or have money to waste.
That's as untrue as the other guys statement. Games were great then and they ate great now, unless you choose to play shit.
This opinion is objectively garbage. Thanks for sharing lol.
How old are you?
Old enough to have played games in the early 90s when they were new. I just refuse to wear the rose colored glasses that people who obsess over those old games do. The graphics, controls, and overall quality were junk compared to the games we get today. There was some decent music and stories but that's all I will give you.
Wait, SNES games were garbage? What in the world….the sprite graphics still look fantastic today. That system also had the greatest lineup of rpgs and platformers of all time IMO. This take is honestly hot garbage Magog.
@Magog, I strongly doubt you played games in the 90's, between the 80s/90s, that was the golden era of pop culture, I still enjoy alot of games and media from that era. sprite/pixel graphics still look good, the controls I can give up on as some game's controls certainly don't hold up, music and stories were fantastic for alot of games. Today, we have alot of games that are pretty garbage, broken at release or never finished, full of DLC/Micro-transactions, loot crates/gacha, today's games also have alot of issues, moreso than the older games.
Yes old Playstation 1 games are objectively garbage. Right?????????
If they were garbage why are there so many remakes and remasters from the SNES, NES Sega Genesis, mega drive, PS1, ps2 and Ps3 generations still regularly releasing
You should be grateful for those old games as they lead the way for some of the ones that are available now
Then i guess games like the new god or war are garbage, because it's almost 4 years old....smh
Bullshit !!! Most of today's games are unfurnished, dlc, open world rubbish. The 16bit era was the best always will be, pure gaming, pure fun, addictive, high replay value. Games I'm still playing to this day!!
I would agree, my only issue with 8 and 16 bit games was that a lot of them were quite short and could be beaten in an hour or less, but I didn't discover that until later, and of course some made up for the short length by being more challenging.
No... your missing the mark, the only games that were short were ones specifically targeted at arcades and stuff... the 8-bit and 16-bit Era had JRPGs, lengthy action games, platformers what not some of which are longer then what comes out today, also because it was easier to develop things with less graphical fidelity which led to more fleshed out RPGs for example, instead of the main focus being graphics..
That's not even close to being true. You should probably broaden your horison a bit. There's so much stuff out there that one would have to be extremely picky not to find a ton worth playing. Get out of your AAA bubble. And if you want 16-bit games, you are in for a wonderful surprise! You could start with The Messenger and take it from there, the rabbit hole goes deep. And it's not just a pc thing, psn and Switch is packed with excellent singleplayer games with plenty of replayability in almost any genre you could imagine.
battlefield 2049 cyberpunk 2077 halo infinite millions of call of duty doodys remake after remake after remake. yep, sure is the golden age.
Axiom Verge 2, Mundaun, Hades, Returnal, Northern Journey, Arthurian Legends 2, Cruelty Squad, Disco Elysium and the list goes on and on almost forever.
It's like the people who say modern music sucks. They're just looking in the wrong places.
Depends how you look at it. When it comes to options and sheer volume of games to play, today is better than ever. But 20 years ago, the games industry wasn't as corrupt as it is now, games weren't getting released in a ridiculous mess, and even games journalism was better back then.
I also dislike how today, there's so much, but so many games are shovel ware, unless you know specifically what you're after, there's alot of junk to wade through.
I commend every gamer here praising older games & gens. As someone who’s been playing since the Atari days, I salute you.
SNES - PS2 were the golden ages.
SNES vs Genesis. Console wars were the best
I was convinced that the SNES was better in every way and no kid in my school could convince me otherwise. We showed off screenshots in magazines and battled often. Back in those days I knew nothing of frame rate drops, but I did know that the NES could display more colors at once when compared to the Genesis. Therefore, it had the best graphics and was the best console. Lol! The Neo Geo was a pipe dream during that era. I only knew one kid who had one and man was I jealous. Arcade games at home? Insane!
Games 20 years ago worked out of the box, didn't need tons of dlc and had not microtransactions. You paid your £40 and you got a complete fully working game. Thats the golden age.
Games do play better but creativity has taken a giant dump. The “think outside the box” design is gone. People are trapped in their bubbles. Modern sensibilities have a deemed a good story offensive and you can’t soak your consumers with MTX and seasonal content with stand alone stories. There are no FPS stories like condemned, prey, the darkness, fear. That was the golden age. There are only cookie cutter stories and old code now because the people that made those games were replaced with a new generation that has no sense of creativity or business. The modern developers coming out of college sound useless and entitled. They are activists not creatives. If you are calling the big tech of today the golden age then I have to assume you don’t know how it used to be.
This, but it's what happens in every massive entertainment business unfortunately, at some point popularity and trends > creativity and innovation. We are already at a point where being innovative is a 'risk' to investors etc. also games like Death Stranding for example get shunned for trying something new, it's just sad really.
I think it’s just hunger. When the old games were being made they didn’t go get game design degrees. I don’t even think it existed lol. They were winging it and started their own companies from scratch. Developers go get a degree now, infiltrate some company and then bitch about how it’s run. The devs coming out of college could have never built the industry from scratch like the pioneers did. Maybe I’m just basing my opinions on the losers like the activision walkers but everything i read says big tech has collapsed on its own incompetence. HEAVILY political. That’s the death nail.
It's fairly obvious that you don't know what you are talking about. You really should dive deeper into the current wave of fps indie games, you'll be pleasently surprised. Perhaps Hrot is a decent way to start or look into Gloomwood or Core Decay maybe Dusk could satisfy some of that mix of horror and shooter? And if not, I'm sure there's games inspired by Condemned and Fear, either out now or in development.
I don’t play on PC. You shouldn’t have to. The fact that you need to excavate steam to find anything worthwhile in terms of creativity only reinforces my point and the obviousness of me knowing what I’m talking about.
Well, I don't really either, there's a lot of good stuff on consoles as well. More pc gamed are ported over than ever, especially on Switch. There's a brilliant port of Dusk on Switch, and I think both Core Decay and Gloomwood will find their way to consoles. There's something like Ion Fury or Project Warlock, which also has good ports. And there's Chernobylite and Metro exodus as well. If you want to be negative and hate gamng, go ahead, but there's so much good stuff if you dig a little, even console. The last couple of years have been some of the best in terms of quality and variety. I don't see the point in being negative and ignoring good games just to be salty. If you want some help finding stuff, just tell me what you would like and I could help you find some recommendations on your platform of choice. Especially if you enjoy horror games, but I know a lot about the indie space, so anything goes.
If I hated gaming I wouldn’t be here. I’m not being negative I’m being realistic. My point is you didn’t have to dig into steam indies to find creative games. Indie devs and 5 man teams having more creativity than anyone in the AA+ space only proves my point even further. You see my factual statement as salty but it’s a factual statement regardless. You being optimistic doesn’t make the situation and direction of the industry suck any less.
But you choose to focus on a dissapointing battlefield 2042, while you could play Halo Infinite or Hell let Loose. I dunno, I just don't see it. And if we look past shooters there's acclaimed AA+ stuff like Deathloop, Kena, Psychonauts 2, Metroid Dread and Forza Horizon released around the same time. And soon Elden Ring, Horizon, GT7, Kirby and so on. Just seems like there's a lot more well regarded games releasing than Anthem tier disasters even disregarding a stellar selection of indies. Obbviously there's also some bad trends, but it's so easy to just steer clear of it, it's mostly a matter of ignoring EA and Activision.
I’m focused on the topic at hand. I’m focused on the negative because we are discussing the “golden age”.. I feel it is not and listed reasons. I’m not just saying shit to irritate you lol. You misunderstand. I’m not talking about the financial flops like anthem. I’m saying the best games of today lack that “outside of the box” thinking and storytelling. Sure there are exceptions to the rule. God of war is fantastic, I can’t wait for ragnarok. Deathloop is okay but it’s the worst arkane game easily lol. Arkane is an exception to the rule. As much as I love their version of prey, the storytelling is subtle and optional. Arkane isn’t big on narrative stories though, they make sandboxes (which I love). I miss stuff like the old prey though. It doesn’t exist in the AA+ budget space anymore. I don’t sift through stinkers on steam to find gold. You just rattled off random AAA games and none of them are outside the box. GT7? Horizon? We’re not talking about a handful of sequels or studios you like, we’re talking about “the golden age”. Hey man, If you want to look at it glass half full that’s your business, I’m not hating on you. I wouldn’t reply to your opinion calling you ignorant for refusing to see the shit on the wall lol. Take it easy.
Sorry if I sound agitated, I don't intend to so might be a second language thing. I'll try and phrase myself differently. I might have misinterpreted your argument. And I do see that perhaps the AA space is somewhat missing somewhat. In the end its all down to taste, personally the worst era of gaming was ps3/360 era to me, a time where all the types of stuff I liked was deemed archaic and there was an emphasis on story while the stories kinda sucked so it didn't really do much for me. One of the reasons while I would say that recent times could be called a golden age is that almost all the genres i love have returned and delivered some of the best entries. I love 90s shooters like Quake and I think games like Dusk, Amid Evil and Project Warlock are among the classics, while Quake, Blood, Duke3D and Doom are recieving new content that surpases a lot of the old stuff in some ways. And I love imsims, which are seeing a huge reusurgence recently, soon there'll be a lot more to play than Deus Ex, Thief and System Shock 2. And a game like Cruelty Squad even adds a lot of new stuff to the genre. I also love metroidvania games, where I'd say Hollow Knight, Axiom Verge and Bloodstained might be some of the best in the genre. Finally I'm big on horror games and this genre is really taking off. I love thr classics like Silent Hill 1-2 and Resident Evil Remake, but I think newer games like Yomawari, Amnesia Rebirth, Darkwood and especially Mundaun brings the horror back in new and interesting ways. Then there's stuff like Hypnospace Outlaw and Obra Dinn doing innovative storytelling in coll ways. To me it hasn't felt like I've had to wade through shit to find cool stuff, I feel like I just have to reach out and then i find a new favourite game. To me it's been easier to find cool stuff than ever before. Perhaps because we now got the tools to create more ambitious stuff without a huge team, so there's more room for creativity than ever before. And to top it off, playing the games from 20 years ago, have become easier than ever. We got access to so much legacy stuff, even when only playing on consoles. And we shouldnt forget that the past also had a lot of overhyped garbage, like Too Human for instance and Duke Nukem Forever. But I did love the 90s and early 00s, that's a strong candidate for a golden age. But I think that now is better, because I can play most of the old stuff while also playing new stuff, which is what I do. Started playing System shock 2 and it really is one of a kind.
I agree disagree. Today there's more games that's true, and the visuals look almost life-like. Is a lot better than the PS3 generation which was 95% shooters and brown what is really missing is the next generation gameplay. We still have not seen the true function of ragdoll physics and game developers have not taken advantage of hair physics. Our characters still have wooden movement, and facial expressions.......