PSVR2 Hasn’t Solved VRs Biggest Problem

From GamesReviews:"PSVR2 is probably going to be a great piece of kit, but it doesn’t solve the biggest problem VR has going for it: the lack of stellar content."

[MaximusPrime_]

this writer is stating the obvious. most of us know about it already

[wmmn80]

what about ppl who do not own VR set and thinking about getting one ?
You seriously presume that you know what most ppl think and know ? wow :)

[TheDoomedGuy]

I am. I don't own one and will be getting the next one...especially if it's back compat.

[bouzebbal]

Lol PSVR has THE BEST SOFTWARE..
Moss
Blood and Truth
RE7
Astro
Creed
…

Troll article

[Michiel1989]

@bouzebal the best VR software maybe, but thats not even the point hes making. The point is that VR games are lacking behind non-VR games in terms of quality.

maybe read the article before calling it a troll article.
troll comment /s

[Joe913]

@Michiel1989 it is a troll article. There are over 600 PSVR a lot of those are full games maybe not 20 hours but if done right a full game can be 8 or so hours plus there are full games you can play in VR like RE7. The rumor is that Sony is done with small VR games and will be going full AAA VR with the PSVR2 yes it is a rumor but the rumors about the spec turned out 99% true.

[fr0sty]

The system isn't even out yet, they've only announced one game so far... this article is stupid. The author is assuming it won't have stellar content and it's still a minimum of months away from release. Let them at least announce what that content will be before jumping to conclusions. PSVR already has stellar content, as well... Astrobot Rescue Mission, for instance, is one of the best platformers ever released on any platform, VR or not. So, not only is the author jumping to conclusions, but those conclusions are ill informed.

[lucian229]

As much as I'm in defense of the vr.... The "isn't out yet" argument doesn't work well as that's been the excuse for the kinect, the original psvr, vita etc.

Can't blame people for being skeptical.

I do however have great hope for this and would love to see what will be done with the tech. I love sword fighting games and stuff like pistol whip.... I just can't deal with games that give motion sickness.

[SullysCigar]

This. How can PSVR2 solve the author's perceived "lack of stellar content" before it even exists?

This is flame bait, approved by the usual suspects for the sole purpose of raining on Sony's parade.

PSVR2 is highly anticipated. Get used to it!

[OptimusDK]

@SullysCigar - the usual suspects :D - do you think this is a XBOX fan site.
I would argue the opposite by a large margin.

[Michiel1989]

@Sully it cant, but so far VR games havent been as good as the creators of these VR kits would have wanted us to believe. Sure there is some really good games on VR, but its not a consistent flow of good games for VR releasing. History has show that no matter how good the hardware, without the software support its going to fail (Dreamcast, Atari Lynx, Neo Geo (color) ). Maybe fail is too big a word, but at least not being the smash hit they want it to be.

I have faith that Sony first parties will create some great VR games, but im not so sure if sony 1st parties can carry the VR2 single handedly. I do praise them for trying to push the industry forward, but i think being skeptical about it is warranted as well.

its not flame bait, the lack of a steady amount of good software has held it back. Also this article never says the PSVR2 isnt highly anticipated.

Since you say this article is bait, tell me how this author or any article for that matter can have a critical take on PSVR2 without being bait/trolling or whatever you feel like calling it today. We cant even mention any potential problems Sony might run into anymore without being haters?

[fr0sty]

@lucian, the original PSVR has plenty of stellar content... So you can't go lumping it in with Kinect, Vita (which also had stellar content, it just wasn't supported long enough), etc. It was the most successful VR headset out of all of the major players. Without it, the VR market would not have gained anywhere near as much traction as it has.

[Joe913]

@Michiel1989 "Since you say this article is bait, tell me how this author or any article for that matter can have a critical take on PSVR2 without being bait/trolling or whatever you feel like calling"
By waiting until the actual reveal to comment. The author to me is assuming that Sony has not learned from the first PSVR. This is an opinion piece so there is really no right or wrong except he is jumping to conclusions super early and they are far from facts. You may feel and he may feel that way about the PSVR lineup of games but because not everyone feels that way this is clickbait. You can have an opinion all you want that doesn't make it a fact. Based on how people feel you can say this about any system PS4, PS5, XBOX, XBSX
I feel the same way about Xbox consoles doesn't make it true.

" It can't, but so far VR games haven't been as good as the creators of these VR kits would have wanted us to believe"
again your opinion therefore not facts just because you feel this way doesn't make it true. Of all the PSVR games out there you can't say that the majority of players didn't enjoy most of them. Again you can apply this comment to any game so why even say it.

[gamer7804]

That’s not the problem with VR, it’s the tech, its too bulky and strapped to your head. It still has many of the same problems it did decades ago.

[gravedigger]

Em... I'm pretty sure GT7 will have a VR support. Also pretty sure Dirt 2 will have to ( VR support is exclusive for Oculus Quest 2 for now) . PSVR had really great games. Astro was such a gem, one of the best platformers in years. Shooters like Persistence and Doom were great. Dirt Rally was awesome. Oh, the Beat Saber. Hats off to Rigs. PSVR from technical stadpoint was great for its price and a console it was intended.

[purple101]

No it hasn't. But the time gets here. maybe it will have

[Babadook7]

Honestly, the writer is assuming the software output for a device that has almost none of its titles announced. Its obvious we don’t have a clue what the lineup is yet, and it could very well be that the software output is 2x or more what psvr was in its first year which would be very impressive. Sony being secretive is no evidence of anything and simply commits the argument from silence fallacy. SMH.

[SullysCigar]

Agreed. RE8 VR got shrugged off with "nothing to announce until SONY is ready", Half Life: Alyx is basically confirmed, Horizon has already been shown, GT7 is bound to be compatible day one, rumours abound for GTA...

All that even before the hotly anticipated sequels for established VR titles like Moss, Astro Bot, Blood and Truth, not to mention the planned focus on AAA pancake/VR hybrids Sony already mentioned.

There's nothing to suggest a lack of quality content for PSVR2. Good times ahead!

[Neonridr]

It's partially true, I mean we get a handful of really good VR games each year but if you look at a place like Steam for example, most of the titles that sit atop the best seller list are quite old now. Plus you have the problem of not all games being available on every platform with Sony releasing exclusive stuff, Oculus releasing exclusive stuff, etc. Lone Echo 2 is a fantastic game, but naturally not everyone is going to be able to experience it. So you have a sort of niche market and you are further dividing it up with these exclusives. Makes it even harder to grow.

[darkrider]

Well, but if Sony believes, then it will have good games

[ApocalypseShadow]

Just one big, lame article.

CES isn't a game show. Asking about games knowing they are not going to be divulging about until most likely after releases like Forbidden West, GOW and GT 7.

But we have clues there will be big games coming to it. Like GT 7 or GTA 5 or RE 8. Past history of getting games like Borderlands, Skyrim, Hitman collection, Iron Man, Astrobot...I don't even need to keep going. We know Sony's all in because the headset tells you. The fact that Jim Ryan stood in front of people stating that they are all in. That means games are coming. Bigger that before.

Sure there are a lot of Indy games. But there were some amazing ones. How can you as a gamer, downplay Indy games? I don't need to list them all. But to say the technology is not there yet is false. It can be pulled off. Just at what fidelity are we talking for big PS5 games? They would have to scale down from full PS5 games to work. Or change interactions.

But I'm going to tell you, an Indy game like SAIRENTO tells you almost anything a regular game can do, you can do it in VR. Sairento doesn't pull any punches when it comes to movement. Shooting, slashing, sliding, punching, stabbing, front flips, back flips, side flips, wall crawling, wall hanging, ground stomping, slow mo. With movement like that, there isn't a game you couldn't do. That's straight up Devil May Cry movement. Don't be down on Indy games. We seen that nonsense in the past.

PSVR 2 is going to show what a console can do for VR. 3D sound like Returnal, fast loading like Spider-Man, graphics like PS4 Pro or better, HDR, haptics found nowhere else, etc.

PSVR's big brother just walked into the room. You aren't RED E for em.

[deleted]

Very long, but great comment Apocalypse! Sairento needs a sequel with a fleshed out story mode, because that flipping in VR is incredible!

Blood and Truth was an absolute top notch AAA from London Studio that didn't get enough attention. I lovingly refer to it as The Getaway VR, although a more guided experience.. the acting, storytelling, action was AAA without a doubt.

We already have confirmation that London Studio is working on a AAA PSVR2 title... maybe a Blood and Truth sequel? The first leaves a huge cliffhanger, which could set up multiple sequels. Maybe a remaster of B&T1 should launch w PSVR2, to drum up more hype for a B&T2, while also making up for lower sales? Also it could improve the prior limitations of the Move controls, with the precision of the new Sense controls.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Yeah man! I would love a Sairento sequel. But they look like they're making something else with demons and such. I want ninjas and samurais. But who knows, maybe their next game will be great.

But they definitely nailed how movement of a VR character should be done.

[thorstein]

Thanks for saving me the clicks. Didn't realize this was still a thing.

Devs: Here are plenty of games.

Journo: (3 years ago) VR is dead and there are no games.

Devs and players: man, these VR games are amazing! So many AAA

Journo: (2 years ago) yep, we keep telling you that VR is dead. Please parrot anything we say without doing any research yourself when arguing with VR enthusiasts.

Devs and players: another fantastic year for VR!!!

Sony: We've sold over 5 million PSVRs!

Journo: (last year) If you haven't followed our 4 years covering the demise of VR please keep following us.

Sony: Check out the PSVR2 Specs!

To date over 65 million VR headsets have been sold!

Journo: well, 4 years ago we claimed that "niche market" VR was dead and there were no games. So clearly, VR is dead and there are no games and no new devices coming out.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Excellent. Just Excellent.

[thorstein]

Michiel1989,

This wasn't about Sony only. It's a Sony article so I made it relevant. 65 million VR headsets sold are mostly Ocululs. Why didn't you call us Oculus fanboys?

[Aloymetal]

Another article ''concerned'' about Sony's new PSVR2....
Next up....''Sony's better off not having any VR (like that other brand) and why is bad for gamers....''

[ColtPSSX]

Bruh its name was just announced officially. Give it time.
I swear Sony gets one of the most click baity articles out of all the gaming companies. Top 5 for sure.

[Aloymetal]

Yup but that's what happens when they're the most popular and successful home console brand in the world. It's a troll magnet....Envy at its finest.

[Michiel1989]

did you even read past the headline on n4g? it actually brings up a legit problem that has been holding VR back so far. Where has the killer apps been so far for VR that has people in mass saying: I NEED to get myself VR for x or y game, that cant be done on a non-vr system.

Thats why playstation is so succesful because they got their killer games for all their consoles and so far VR has been lacking in that aspect. Sure it has some good games for it, but not to the degree that Sony and Nintendo have with their consoles, that makes people in droves go out to get the consoles. Them announcing a new VR headset, while looking like an amazing piece of hardware, doesnt magically solve the software problem.

but apparently most sony fans here instead of having a discussion about that just say: troll, bait article, journous suck and all that kinda stuff without even reading the article.

[dbcoops]

Why would it? PSVR2 is a hardware solution, hardware never solves a software issue but I get it we needed another negative Sony article regarding their VR announcement. smh

[jukins]

Idk about that. I have a ton of "stellar" content for vr. The same way reviewers about certain indies should apply to some vr games. Yes obviously they dont jave the same high production values but games like iron man legit make you feel like iron man. And games like half life alyx suck you into the world so much because of the focus on vr and vr activities in game.

[z2g]

vr is a one trick pony imo. all games specifically made for vr all rely on the same mechanics. other regular games often feel shoehorned into vr and make lots of sacrifices... I used to be super excited about vr but aside from some driving or flying sim type scenarios, it feels completely unnecessary. I've owned a psvr, a vive and currently have an oculus quest 2 that literally never gets used.

[thorstein]

All of these games use the same mechanics?

Driveclub
Moss
Final Assault
Eve: Valkyrie
Resident Evil VII
No Man's Sky
Skyrim
Hitman 3
Creed

I have them all and played/ play them all. Can you elaborate on how they are all one trick pony? I am not seeing it.

[HICK]

Of course he won't reply because his initial comment was garbage. VR allows way more mechanics than flat games...that much should be immediately apparent. This will only become more obvious as PSVR2 catches up and exceeds other headsets in some features. I get so sick of these people who have some weird desire for VR to fail... I'd love to understand them someday

[mkis007]

You seem like the type that would have seen an atari and said the same thing.

[Deathdeliverer]

I think “stellar” is a point of view. In my opinion the first couple play throughs of until dawn VR, Beat saber (me and my wife STILL play the hell out of that), Astrobot, Acecombat 7 (if you ever want to feel like you’re about to fall off your couch and into the ocean, this is it), The one game where time doesn’t move unless you do, and so on. It’s some amazing VR games out there. Oh yeah that walking dead is fun as hell too! Stab a zombie in the head with a arrow then turn and fire said arrow!

[H9]

Companies are not invested in VR yet, if you wanna push a tech you need to take a risk and put it in the spotlight, you need your best guys working on games to get as many people to play, but the culture that Sony and those big companies have made in their games that they need to be state of the art technically puts way too much limitations, can you make the last of us part 2 VR without sacrificing everything, if those companies had focused on games with unique and creative ideas then already their best studios will be doing VR, in a way look at Nintendo, their games are about ideas not visuals, so when they want to adopt motion control or anything they will do it with their big dogs, and if they adopt VR, there is nothing that could stop them from making Mario VR and Zelda be, because they are not technically taxing to begin with and Nintendo would give it all the attention

[ChasterMies]

The biggest problem with VR is motion sickness. If I can okay a game in VR without getting a crippling headache, I’ll call it a win.

[thorstein]

Have you checked out the VR subreddit? Even if you aren't on reddit, just make a free account and read through the FAQ. It is a wonderful community and they will help you mitigate most problems.

[bunt-custardly]

The inherent problem with VR in general is the difficulty showing how cool it actually is from a 2D trailer or video. They use all sorts of tricks to convey the idea but it is not the same. What VR has always needed is familiar AAA franchises for the platform but made as AAA franchises in VR not cheap/gimmicky spin-offs. There are now quite a number of great VR games of this calibre already tho but the platform needs more quality of which is coming slowly.

[jznrpg]

How can it solve a problem when it isn’t even on the market ? It will take time but I do believe Sony is going to push more of their studios to do VR this generation and some outside studios will help too . It’s going to take time but Sony is in VR space for the long haul and not to just jump in and try to be a me too company later on when VR is mainstream. They want to be a big part of the reason it goes mainstream and I do believe it will someday . Someone has to put in the work to make it mainstream and then all the “we have the best VR evers” companies who had nothing to do with helping it grow will come out .

[ApocalypseShadow]

Agreed.

And we know which company will come out of the woodwork and say that they always been there for VR. Even if they said there's no money in it.

[Gaming4Life1981]

Oculus is the main reason why VR is mainstream not sony. The majority of the best vr games are only on oculus so if any company is putting in work it's facebook/oculus.

VR has been mainstream for years now

[mastershredder]

Lol the headset does not solve content problems ya goof. And some dippy review site ain’t gonna know dix about the entirety of who’s already creating content or planning to. Thanks for the fail bait based upon speculation.

[masterfox]

Seriously lol how can someone judge a product that is still at least a year away from its release?, it doesn't make any sense.

[NealGamby]

*Sees Sony announce a AAA Horizon Zero Dawn VR game*

*Has idea to write story about there’s no AAA VR games being made *

Clown shoes, bro.

[Gaming4Life1981]

VR has alot of stellar games and content. The days of vr has no great games/experiences are over.

The thing is vr is not for everybody and it never will be. I own 2 vr devices right now and I'll get the psvr2 if it's price is right cause I actually love vr.

[Magog]

PSVR had tons of stellar revolutionary content. The problem is there is no way to experience what you're missing without owning one. Watching videos is nothing like being inside the game world yourself.

[Nitrox]

VR’s biggest problem is lack of a good movement solution. We’re stuck with a lot games where you either stand in place or made to feel like your riding around on one of those hoverboards or electric wheelchair. Cockpit games (eg. racing, dogfighting, mechs) are great with immersion but any other genre needs a true locomotion solution.

That said, bought the first set day one. Will do the same for vr2. I support the dream.

[Mr_Luke]

Wait.. what? I tried a lot of great games with VR. Moss is wonderful. The Astro game and the mini games are great and super funny. Blood & Truth... you're literally inside a movie! And good he "saved" HL Alyx...
And PSVR2 didn't come out yet and we don't know which games will come out. Like i said, i was expecting for stupid articles like this one. "But announcing it without also announcing some substantial content is a mistake." Here he's right. It's a mistake, so idiots start writing idiotic articles and opinion trash. Bah... Waiting for more negative and stupid articles in the next days.

[Petebloodyonion]

The author is so far off the track that I wonder if he's about to fall from the edge of the planet.

Why do games like Beat sabers, Pistol Whip, Job simulator, etc, are the face of Vr? simply because the experience it provides can't be reproduced on a flat screen.

Now the real hurdle that PSVR2 hasn't solved (I'm still hoping for a PSVR2 solution) is the fact that you are still connected with a Wire and need to have a PS5.
Nobody is talking about Meta Quest2 but they already sold around 10 million Quest 2 units in just a year.

[Exvalos]

I think one solution is to do what resident evil 7 did and include vr mode in more triple a games

[Azurite]

I think wearing glasses is a bigger issue, seen VR-headsets with special lenses but the premium wasn't worth it.

[ApocalypseShadow]

I wear glasses since PSVR launched. It's not an issue.

[northpaws]

What a clickbait title, how can a piece of hardware solve software problem?

[mkis007]

Content usually comes after a platform is out. Did we start tv gaming with ps5 graphics? Was gaming always a popular thing? I think regular people dont understand that vr is a long haul platform. It is still working its way past its 2nd kr 3rd generation. We are still playing atari. Imagine making the jump into the ps2 generation.

Gaming was not not for everyone in its early days and its not realistic to expect vr to be for everyone in its current state.

[iplay1up2]

Sure they have! Multiple cords, and UHD!

[badz149]

The...F?? the thing has just been announced and this article already played it down as lacking stellar content?? is this shill on drugs?

[plmkoh]

Next jornos will be demanding Sony solve world hunger with VR as well.

[derek]

Dumb article, you can complain about content but there are games in vr that far surpass any experience to be had on the flat screen. Not a single game made last gen was as awe inspiring to me as Astro bot rescue mission.

[philm87]

Build it and they will come.

There's loads of good content. It's never going to have as much money thrown into it as a AAA game as there's not the player base to much this feasible, but there's been some amazing VR games in what is a fairly early stage of VR gaming. The PSVR 2 will just open up more possibilities for developers and hopefully attract more of the developers that were previously only on PC VR.

[boing1]

This issue is a non-issue. After all these years, if you still don't believe that Sony will deliver on content, then there is something wrong with your head.

[lio_convoy]

The biggest problem with VR is it's VR. It's a niche.

[stefd75]

I thought there is over 500 games and experiences available on PS VR or is that not enough

[skyrimer]

I thought we didn't know the launch line-up for PSVR2, can you please share it? Otherwise this is just BS.

[Xspawn69]

Is this thing still going to be physically connected to PS5? I though the next iteration of PSVR was going to be wireless.

[SinisterKieran]

Can I play with myself as I play vrchat though?

[Dfooster]

Psvr2 is going to be in the ballpark of pc vr gaming specs wise therefore it's going to offer fully fledged experiences the psvr1 couldn't handle before. If gran turismo 7 has full vr compatibility mode that alone will sell hundreds of thousands of headsets.

Anyone who tried it in it's limited mode on psvr1 will understand the potential in it, so if other racing games can follow suit it's going to open many doors and that's just one genre that will see huge benefits from the extra horsepower of ps5 and psvr2, there will be many more.

[aarallen1]

I thought it was nausea.

[DeadlyFire]

It has actual potential though. This can have a much bigger library of titles. I doubt VR will be essential for awhile longer though.

[CrimsonWing69]

What the help are they talking about? I’ve been playing Resident Evil 4 in VR and it’s pretty f%#^ing stellar.

How do you become a game journalist, again? Like, do you have to have credentials or be a subject matter expert at all?

[WGAF]

Someone jumping the gun here about lack of contents (quality contents) that is to be seen.

Though there are a couple of things that could be problematic:
1. It is not wireless (I mean since you have to move around with arms wailing and stuff). Seems cumbersome.
2. It is a stand alone device (doesnt require ps5) to play games? Will it work with other devices like a PC or previous ps4 for example? If it can only work with PS5 (which still currently lower than 20 million unit) adoption rate may not be much (like the previous psvr which has only 3-5% adoption rate for 80 - 100 million units of ps3).
3. PRICE. The specification seems pretty good (price may reflect that quality,though) . if it requires Ps5 also to play, how many willing to pay for both devices? Most may just op for the ps5 now, and wait till later to get psvr2 when it is cheaper. Problem is how will they recoup the cost for content developments (which they need lots of when it launch) if this is the case?
5. It is BC with previous psvr games? At least it may helpto retain the previous psvr gamers this way.