From GamesReviews:"PC ports have been in something of a golden age, so of course publishers are starting to push the limits of what fans will accept…"
Yeah, I mean it was something more or less inevitable. Now on the PC space, we are dealing with stores that give no voice to the consumer and that are only interested in growing no matter the cost. And companies that already had a shaky relationship with PC ports like Square here will take complete advantage of that.
Will be interesting to see the feedback etc. once it gets released on Steam.
Honestly one of the reasons I stopped PC gaming. I was so sick of bad ports, cheaters, compatibility/driver issues, etc. It’s nice after work just being able to press one button, Sit on the couch and know shit will work without issue.
Almost none of this has been an issue for well over a decade. There’s still the rare bad port but driver issues and “press one button and sit on the couch” has literally been available on Pc for 20 years. You can ply a pc into a tv. Shocker I know. Wow didn’t you know they use wireless controllers too? Omg no way! From any brand?! Wow!
@ Chubby Really. I didn't know that it was that easy to just plug in a controller and play...it's not, unless you want to spend your free time fiddling with the controls to get them right instead of gaming. Also every majority of PC gamers have their expensive rigs sitting on the floor next to their TV, because it so common, people have overwhelmingly been doing this for 20 years ... Bad ports are rare, when have they been rare? They happen all the time. A top tier rig is the best gaming experience, but people are not very bright if they think PC is the most convenient way to play on the couch.
@ anast, wot? "I didn't know that it was that easy to just plug in a controller and play...it's not" it literally is.
I partially agree with your statement. Consoles have usually been a much more simpler way to game over PC gaming, but as consoles have become more PC like over the years, it also has its fair share of issues. Cheating exists regardless of platform nowadays. Play any FPS game on consoles and you'll run into gamers who use adapters which enables kb/m, cronus devices to have no recoil and other advantages, games released broken that needs patching, buying a new game especially physical on PS (not sure if Xbox is the same, I don't own that system) isn't as simple as inserting the disc in anymore. You have to wait for it to install, and then there's massive day one patches to download and install. Lets also talk about how terrible refund policies with Sony and Nintendo. Regardless if the game is a mess or broken, once you start even downloading it, the can't request refunds. Meanwhile steam gives you two hours to refund if you think either the game isn't for you or outright a broken mess.
It's funny. I haven't done pc gaming in awhile. I did have a few steam games from back in the day, so I decided to try to play Bastion on Steam a few months ago. I plugged in my controller. I could use my controller to navigate the menus in steam. I selected the game: Bastion. The game booted. And it wouldn't respond to my controller. So I hopped off and started playing on my Switch instead. As a busy person, I don't have time to be troubleshooting PC issues.
Chubbyblade In the last decade of PC gaming you haven’t had any of these issues? Lol ok man, that’s bullshit and you know it. I was a PC gamer for years and had issues on a monthly if not weekly basis. When you work full time you don’t want to deal with shit not working, you just want to relax and not think.
@crimson Right? Lol from what I know since at least 2011-12 Microsoft has done a lot to streamline the process of connecting an Xbox controller to windows. (I know they had controller support before that but then we'd have to talk about games for windows which uhm... Yea. Lol)
do they ever leave? :D
Kind of. There are plenty of lazy ports but broken stuff like Arkham isn't as prevalent. Part of that is just window live being dead
I always feel that SE is a bit lazy with it's porting, I can't think of many games they ported to PC that went relatively smoothly.
I think dragon quest and ff xv are good? It's a bit of a coinflip and the fact that people tend to remember the bad ones more than the good ones, in fact people barely talk about the good ports, but that is to be expected. I can tell tho from experience, that it is not as bad as people make it out to be.
Dragon Quest and FFXV were good ports. I remember Kingdom Hearts 3 was supposed to be a good port. It's not recent, but Sleeping Dogs was excellent on PC.
I never played the PC ports of Dragon Quest and FF15, I got them both on PS4 instead, I just remember alot of the FFs, Chrono Trigger, Nier Automata, ect...
Yea these tings slow down near the end of a console generation since the PCs outclass the consoles. But when a new generation launches developers go right back primary console development, sometimes even previous generation. Horizon Zero Dawn 2 for example is designed for the PS4.
Give me ultrawide support
They raise the price and lower the quality.
But you see plenty of PC gamers boasting about PC games sales and how they pay less than console.gamers. So why would publishers spend money on a game that most won't buy until it's heavily on sale? Where as consoles they will get huge sales (if the game is good) and 1 million games sold at £70 per copy will make them more money than 5m sales at £10 per copy.
It's not quite like that. Most of us will buy a game at full price on release just like on console. The ones who go to the Grey market sites for everything are a vocal minority. The fact that Sony id planning more and more releases for pc shows that the sales are there. It's like everything else on the internet, most of the random comments you read are posted by random sweats that pretend to speak for an entire community. In reality they only speak for a fraction. Hell, I may be one of those random sweats!
You need to stop reading propaganda. It’s not healthy for you.
@got_dam Re Sony, hmmmm it's an experiment atm, and whilst sure they probably have made profit on the PC ports. Let's not kid ourselves, the numbers back up my theory. Take HZD for example. In its first two weeks it sold 2.6m copies on PS4. With at least 99% of those sales being at full RRP. On PC 765k in its first month. This is a game which many consider a "good port". Either PC only gamers need to put their hand in their pockets and then demand the better ports. Or just accept that publishers will put profit over customer satisfaction and save and continue saving money. @chubby A quick Google search on one game shows I'm right, if you can present evidence that games that got "good ports" sold as many units at launch as their console counter parts then please present it. I deal in facts, not arguments with no substance.
Yeah, and the pc reception and sales of days gone convinced Sony to rethink their decision to make Sony bend a support only studio. Not sure what's up your ass, man. I'm not saying pc is going to outsell console. I'm just saying this idea that all pc players are pirates is complete bullshit. I'm not even arguing pc master race. Again, just because there IS piracy doesn't mean it's a rampant problem.
@got_dam I never once mentioned piracy, or PC master race, so maybe, stop, take a deep breath and not just read but also comprehend what I am actually saying. Rather than jumping off about some argument that I didn't even make. My argument is simple. Want to see better ports? Well you won't until the mass PC market of players put their hands in their pockets and buy more games day one rather than waiting for hefty discounts. "I'm not saying pc is going to outsell console" and that's my point, it's because of that, it's the reason PC gamers get such lazy ports. And it's not even a chase of "if the ports are good we will buy it full price" as I gave an example of HZD which was a good port of a great game, and PC gamers didn't even break a million sales in one month.
I'm a console gamer. If I go on PC to play it's going to be on steam. It works and I have had zero issues playing. I have no reason to go out and try all these different stores, it's a nuisance tbh when games are exclusive to certain stores on PC, there's enough of that with the console wars.
You'll be best served by having 99% of your games on Steam, but I also have a few other launchers - some required, others by choice. Mainly I'll use those if there's a better deal available & I know they are feature complete. You'll be well served to have Epic's launcher, even if only to get free games; weekly most of the time, with 1 free every day for 2 weeks around Christmas. I'll also grab stuff there on occasion when it is both on sale & have one of their $10 coupons available. Otherwise, pretty much all on Steam (& a tad on GOG).
im a console gamer too, but if a pc game is cheaper on a different launcher, u better believe i go there.
Coming back? Developers releasing broken games and PC ports without proper settings have a been thing for 2 whole generations
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Now that's a statement I don't know, i might click that, i'm not sure... i don't know...
Pc gaming is you build something expensive then play lazy half assed ports. Compotent prices are insane and performance vs ps5 and series x is laughable. Then add compability issues. I quit pc gaming after gtx 1070 gen and situation were alot better then. Not to mention when pc used to have popular exlusive triple A tech marvel games not possible on consoles. Nowday pc gaming is not the golden age thats for sure.
They were never absent.
This feels premature. I do agree the FFVIIR port was barebones, but at least it works (though the fact you have to use DX11 to fix stuttering is ludicrous). They really only point to that & GTA Trilogy as data points. GTA Trilogy had practically the same issues- (absurd rain, poor performance relative to the hardware, etc. - on all platforms. I could say "look at CP2077 & Halo: MCC to see how broken games are on console". 2 examples is too few, & poor work can happen on any platform. They compare the old days (PS3 gen) to this, and talk about how broken PC ports were then. It isn't as bad as it was in those days. Article still says things like "despite the fact that it is only as good as it was on PlayStation 5." This port, while lacking, still functions. Ports a couple gens back were legitimately broken. I mean, I tried playing FFXIII-2 a while back & it crashed so much I gave up. I'm not giving Square a pass by any means, it is still pretty crap the product they put out given the state of the PC market these days. But I think we've got a few more bad ports before we can really say anything definitive about the state of PC ports in general, like they argue here.
PC Master Race huh LOL.
Poor ports are nothing to do with PC gamers. This is about publishers wanting a cash grab for a premium price for a 2 year old game. FFVII Remake is £10-15 more expensive than any game on the PC market. So much for cheaper games on Epic Games Store due to the lower cut. It was always a marketing ploy by Epic trying to get people to their store. They failed. Most people visit their store for the free games and leave.
SquareEnix : Don't blame us! this is because Sony bought Nixxes!
Square jn particular has never been good with their pc ports and im not sure qhere the issue is. if your company isnt good with ports, hire someone who is. they never learn.
They never left...
PC: the story of the most frustrating platform
Avoid the games from publishers that dont care. Squares been one of them since pretty much forever. They love their drm and crappy ports. Dq11 s being the switch port, nier automata taking years to finally get fixed, games locked at 30fps, drm on single player games, egs exclusivity, and a crappy cashgrab port of ff7r. Square really needs to take pc gaming seriously. Either get their games on console or pirate the pc ports (because theyre just asking for it).
Its Square. They only do lazy ports. Or rather, I've only heard more complaints then compliments in regards to their ports.
Why would they bother spending all the time and money for a quality port when half you pc dudes are going to steal the game anyway.
Because we don't want to waste time stealing bad ports?
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