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Cyberpunk Was Always Good - GUI.105

It astounds the boys at Green Dragon that Cyberpunk 2077 is receiving praise a year after its release. This week we get right back into all the reasons why Cyberpunk is an excellent game, delving into the distinction between the form vs matter of a work of art. Also featuring a discussion of how Cyberpunk treats the individuation of the human intellect by matter.

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IMissJimRyan1300d ago

I agree. When we remove what's bad, what's left is great, good, or average.

Atom6661300d ago

Agreed. It also doesn't get enough credit for for bringing us back to a good pacing in an open world.

There's plenty to keep you busy, but 40 hours can get you through the story, most big side missions, and the companion missions. There's not a huge amount of useless bloat to throw off the narrative.

mkis0071300d ago

Night City was billed as this living entity, I at least expected NPC routines.

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Atom6661299d ago

Haha, nope. I found a lot to enjoy about it.

I'm sure all of you guys played it too, but it's ok that we have different opinions about games we play.

Zhipp1299d ago

@mkis
NPCs had routines in The Witcher 1. Do they seriously not in this game?

Yui_Suzumiya1299d ago

I'm with you on this brother. Those boring and forgettable games made by Rockstar and Ubisoft could learn alot from Cyberpunk.

dreamoner1299d ago

Throw every frikin little low effort content/activity to your face from the get go, fixers keep bothering you on top of that and that is good pacing? Lmao

Atom6661299d ago

Yes, it is.

The "filler" are 2min little pieces of action.

Missions from fixers are divided out by difficulty to help you pace out where you are in the leveling.

All easily ignored if you just want to stick to the main quests that don't require excessive filler for leveling. They struck the balance between having too little to occupy the ADD crowd nd having too much for the OCD crowd.

I think my final clock time was like 45 hours and I completely all of the major-moderate missions.

Compare that to every other open world game we've played in the last 10 years.

It's not perfect by any means, and they deserve the backlash for the bugs. But the hate over the actual game is confusing to me.

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Yui_Suzumiya1299d ago

Damn.. I actually thought someone here had a brain cell and wasn't following the hate mob like all the other sheep on this site. I was about to praise you until I saw you were being ironic, lol. I own the game for a base PS4 and haven't had any issues like other people.

dbcoops1299d ago

When we remove whats bad we're left with the box art. ;)

NeoGamer2321299d ago (Edited 1299d ago )

That is like saying the house is really nice, except the construction done is falling apart.

Good is not only gameplay, story, etc. It is also whether it was well-constructed to begin with. Cyberpunk just wasn't ready to ship and they tried to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. I applaud gamers that chose not to accept that and reviewers who knocked it because it wasn't ready yet.

Too many games ship not nearly done yet now-a-days. At least on XB there is Game Preview, I think more games should be declared in Preview when they ship.

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Snakeeater251299d ago

Am sure you didn’t even played it more than 1 hour

Terry_B1300d ago

Agreed.

Most people that trashed the game never played it and just judged it by the videos with the bugs.

neutralgamer19921300d ago

So all those bugs and glitches being shown in videos and social media were not there? I don't understand what you point is. That's why the game is $10

porkChop1300d ago

That's not what they meant. The game was broken and extremely buggy. They've polished it up a bit but it still has a long way to go. But the point is that the actual game itself, when working correctly, was very good. Yet most people that never actually played it claim the game was terrible even without the bugs.

TinkerNation1300d ago

Most people only ever encounter a few of those bugs in their entire playthroughs. I played the game about a month after launch and didn't have any problems. But it's easy to make a compilation of bugs when you combine ones from hundreds of different people.

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Omegasyde1299d ago

So looking at the videos and reviews, I should cast those off and just buy the game?

Game was trashed for a reason and still needs a lot of work a year later. Not just for bugs but lots of “missing advertised features”.

GameZenith1299d ago

You mean the same "missing" features that was under the "not final, things are subject to change" label that was stamped on all gameplay videos?

neutralgamer19921299d ago

GameZenith

Yes yes the same because if CDPR were so honest why didn't they allow any console footage? How anyone can defend these games which are clearly launching in a unfinished state is beyond me

They hid the actual gameplay of all console versions because they knew what state the game was in and instead showed only high end PC footage

It was one of the select few games where YouTubers and big gaming sites all agreed it launched clearly needing more time to polish

There is a reason so many big games now launch unfinished because gamers are willing to pay full price to buy and test the games for the developers and provide feedback for them to actually fix the games

We as a community are so split on which box is better that now micro transactions are defended by saying no one is forcing you to buy. But than UBI went a step further and added MT in single player games. Either pay for XP boosters or grind playing the fetch quests

What use to be unlockables and or cheat codes are now micro transactions and we as gamers are so busy defending these practices that publishers don't care

Yui_Suzumiya1299d ago

My man! Someone I can agree with. People are sheep remember? Mob mentality and whatnot. That's all I can deduce since I own a last gen version and it's been fine since being patched.

dbcoops1299d ago

I played it for a bit until I decided to stop and wait for a next gen upgrade. I don't trash it but I was definitely disappointed and can see why others would trash it.

GameZenith1299d ago

Get a PC which is what the best experience is anyways.

Even the next gen upgrade will be inferior to the PC experience.

Most people complaining are console owners.

dbcoops1299d ago

@GameZenith

I have a PC a very capable one but I prefer to play on console and I had already bought it for Playstation and had no desire to buy it twice.

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Vithar1300d ago

if they would not have released old gen, the story would be very different now. I played on PS5 and had a very good experience.

Sashamaz1300d ago

If you ignore the bugs and focus only on the game play and story, then cyberpunk is average at best.

CS71299d ago

That’s not true.

I played on PS5 and had 4 crashes in three hours with tons of bugs with sub-par blurry 1080p graphics.

Applied for refund as soon as it was available.

GameZenith1299d ago

Thats why you get a PC to have the ideal experience.

MadLad1300d ago

Damn. Guess I didn't consider fairly subpar.

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Cyberpunk 2077's 2.3 Update Opens a Pandora's Box the Game Can't Close

Cyberpunk 2077 is getting a new update after developers previously stated it no longer would, bringing the possibility of more still to come.

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hollabox7d ago

I'm hoping the update fixes their poor FSR 3 implementation, and add FSR 4. FSR 2 looks better than FSR 3 in CP2077 by a wide margin. On my 7900XT I just use XESS if I want to add RT at custom 3K resolutions. Already beat the main game, but half way through Phantom Liberty expansion. I would like to get back to it later on this month.

anast7d ago

I have more hours in this game than any other. I would happily put more into it.

MastaMold7d ago

I second this and a PS5 PRO patch too please.

RhinoGamer887d ago

I finished it and had a blast, wish there was a new game + option.

Demon-kun3d ago

I wanna be able to dual wield it would add a decent bit I feel hell if they wanted they could even let us dual wield like knives and swords as well or something just sounds like fun to me

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Cyberpunk 2077 on Switch 2: a cutting-edge game translates well to Nintendo's console hybrid

Few games among the Nintendo Switch 2 launch line-up can match Cyberpunk 2077 in putting the system through its paces. It's a staple of our PC benchmarking suite for good reason: the open world design is a solid stressor for any CPU, while its effects-heavy battles challenge GPU resources as well. This Switch 2 release has clearly been a big undertaking for developer CD Projekt Red too, who produced the port in-house with unique optimisations for Switch 2's ARM-based architecture. It's also remarkably the Ultimate Edition of the game, with both the core adventure and the more taxing Phantom Liberty expansion bundled in - an extra portion that proved too demanding to justify a last-gen console release, and was instead restricted to PS5 and Series X/S, and yet here it is running on Switch 2.

To cut to the chase, Switch 2 offers a truly viable way to enjoy Cyberpunk, either in a portable format or docked under a TV. However, CDPR has shot for the stars in its ambition to include Phantom Liberty as well, and it's here that Switch 2 hits some technical limits - with frame-rates struggling as we explore its newer Dog Town region. Still, that aside, there's a lot to admire in the game's engineering for Nintendo's new console overall, and how competitive it is in comparison with other consoles.

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repsahj9d ago

I am happy for CDPR. Their hard work paid off because the Switch 2 version are always in the top 5 Switch 2 launch game sales.

jznrpg8d ago

Not much launched with it besides ports so it should be expected I guess.

OMNlPOTENT8d ago

I mean.. what did the PS5 launch with? One exclusive in Demon's Souls?

repsahj7d ago

@Omnipotent
Not just PS5, Series X has zero launch games. XD

DivineHand1258d ago (Edited 8d ago )

This may be one of the weakest launch lineups Nintendo has ever had, with Mario Kart being the only first party game, but Cyberpunk 2077 will definitely give you tremendous value for your money.

One tip I can give people who have never played the game is to first read books from the cyberpunk subgenre. This will allow you to appreciate the story much better. If you find yourself asking which life path is the best to take at the start of the game, in this case it is Corpo, Streetkid, and Nomad. You likely don't know enough about the genre, and certain things will fly right over your head. While it is not mandatory, the game will be 10 times better if you read or listen to some books first.

Some books I have enjoyed in that genre are:
Cyber Dreams by Plum Parrot,
Stray Cat Strut by RavensDagger
Tower of Somnus by Cale Plamann
Mist Runner by Nicholas Searcy

If you can only read or listen to 1 book, then I recommend Cyber Dreams by Plum Parrot. It is the closest thing to Cyberpunk 2077.

anast8d ago

Or play the TTRPG which is was based on.

Profchaos8d ago

I'd say its stronger than the switch as Mario kart has a broader appeal than zelda.

It was also a better launch line-up than the gamecube and possibly wii u

DivineHand1258d ago

@Profchaos the WiiU likely had the worst of the bunch which is partly why the system failed.

The gamecube had smash bros melee that launched 2 months after the initial release and that is one of the best games to release on that console. I assume every gamecube owner would be happy with that game.

The switch had Breath of the Wild which is still considered one of the best games of all time. I remember playing through that game and unlocked every equipment, upgraded every equipment to the max, found all the dragons, defeated all the Lynels and completed all the shrines in that game before defeating Ganon at the end. It was a good time from start to finish and made up for the lack of other launch games.

I just think that if they had us waiting that long for the switch 2, they should have more than just 1 or 2 first party games ready within the launch window. If we had at least gotten a trailer for a new 3D mario I would be extremely happy. With the current switch 2 lineup, there is no draw to go out and get it immediately like a new console launch should make you feel. Right now the main appeal is to provide a quality of life update to play switch 1 games.

OMNlPOTENT8d ago

There is also a book directly related to the universe of Cyberpunk 2077, it's called "No Coincidence". I thought it was a pretty good read.

Kornholic7d ago

"One tip I can give people who have never played the game is to first read books from the cyberpunk subgenre."

If somebody gave me this advice before I started my first Cyberpunk 2077 playthrough, I wouldn't have even bought the game in the first place.

DivineHand1257d ago

True because I wouldn't have played it either. It's just that I read those books after playing the game and thinking back, a lot of the motivations of each character started making more sense.

I just wanted to through that tip out there to recommend someone try to understand the cyberpunk genre more before playing. They will get more out of the game.

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badz1498d ago

40 vs 60 fps is not something that I would even consider calling "competitive"

1nsomniac8d ago

Then you don’t know enough about the subject you’re trying to talk about..

badz1498d ago

hahaha...what? are you serious right now? the Switch 2 is not a PC where you can just change the graphical settings to get to 60fps...Unless CDPR released a patch to make it run at 60fps, that is.

As of right now, it's stuck at 40fps at best and that too with DLSS from quite a low base res already. so yeah...it's not competitive.

Profchaos8d ago

100% 40 isn't a arbitrary choice its a strategic choice because it opens up access to supporting technology on the console

Good-Smurf8d ago

DF are Nintendo's occasional bootlickers after that blatant Zelda games ad scandal.
Games like CP2077 are meant to be played on big console or powerful PC on a big screen.
Got to love how they're simp for full price purchase of 5-year-old game and still getting the worst version to play on.

1nsomniac8d ago

Wow you guys don’t let up for a second trying to blame DF for anything you can pick out the sky at any given moment. It’s embarrassing dude.

It’s always DF are bootlickers for Nintendo today, Microsoft yesterday, Sony last week. Make your mind up people… pick a side and stick to it. Sounds so stupid when you’re trying to make a point that some company is biased but that no one can make their mind up who the company is biased towards any given day of the week.

stoney1018d ago

Yep, the amount of hate they get is ridiculous. The funny thing is if you actually look at the comments on their early switch 2 videos people are slating them for not giving it enough praise and constantly comparing it to ps4.

ZycoFox8d ago

They had a "Sponsored by Nintendo" video not long ago, it literally says so at the start.

I trust them for showing frame rate analysis and they're decent for that, but their overall review for Nintendo is overrated, Mario Kart is the same game it has always been.

Really the only one that got close to topping DKR was MKDS.. So it's no wonder it's often ranked as the highest rated Mario Kart.

repsahj7d ago

It's obvious that you're not following DF. In the weeks leading up to the Switch 2's release, didn't you know that DF had so many articles downplaying the Switch 2 because they believed it was far from being more powerful than the PS4?

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anast8d ago

Phantom Liberty is a part of the game. If it can't run it. It can't run the game.

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Review: Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition Is The The Best Launch Title For Switch 2 – Entertainium

Now’s the best time to travel to Night City as Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition is the best pickup on the Switch 2 at the moment.

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