GTA Trilogy Pours Rain So Hard It’s Nearly Unplayable

The San Andreas portion of the remaster has some serious problems, weather-wise

[Orchard]

I noticed this in GTA3 too, the rain is really terrible, completely obscures the game world.

[brewin]

They definitely rushed this out, needs patch bad. Starting to wonder how much those rose tinted glasses had an effect on people, cuz these are not as good as I remember... Saints Row did it better ✌️💯

[Orchard]

Yeah... I was also surprised by the length. I recalled the games being longer, well SA still is long, but I finished 3 in one sitting.

Also encountered quite a few bugs where I had to replay missions 3+ times due to markers not appearing or garages not opening etc.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

They're still amazing games. Saints Row 1 (2006) didn't even come out in the same gen as these games (2001, 2002, 2004) on the 360, and most people would still rather play them than SR1 because they're just that good.

I've never liked how overused the rose-tinted glasses argument is. Millions of people still play these games for a reason. You could more easily use the same argument against Saints Row - it was quite generic compared to Grand Theft Auto until Saints Row 2.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

@Orchard

These games are shorter now because you can retry the mission without needing to drive all the way back to the mission marker.

[Seraphim]

well the games definitely had their fare share of bugs, glitches and issues back in the day. Not quite as bad as an Elder Scrolls or some other open world games but they were there &, at times, extremely bad. I think people tend to forget just how bad it could be. The nostalgia of seeing through rose tinted glasses blinds them. Remembering only the good while neglecting the bad. Shit, you could be running across a street in GTA 3, VC and SA when suddenly you fall through the map forcing you to reset. Run into a building on accident and get stuck there... Or forgetting just how clunky everything was... I mean they're great games, for their time, but the quality of gaming has improved so much since then. Not only graphically but control schemes, menus, etc.

[justadelusion]

Oh It's definitely mostly nostalgia for gamers. Most of these games so highly talked about now were actually pretty meh.

[bloop]

@Seraphim: I don't know what platform you played these games on, but I sunk what must have been thousands of hours into the trilogy on the PS2 back in the day, and bugs were extremely few and far between.

[MightyHealthy]

I wasn't really into them when they first released.
The graphics were a turnoff for me, and running around, driving around shooting ppl didnt hook me tbh.
That changed with part4 tho

[CDbiggen]

I thought something was wrong, like a glitch with mine at first when the rain came on. It's hilarious how bad it is.

[-Foxtrot]

That can't be real? Right?

That's awful and it's so dark

Jesus, they really rushed this out didn't they, I'd have preferred a full on, possibly expanded remake of just GTA3 to start with, focus on the one game at a time.

[brewin]

It's real and It's super bad! The brightness is broken in this game. I'm glad I didn't buy and SA is on GP, saved me $60! Maybe I'm just spoiled by FH5 graphics?!

[Orchard]

Also one thing I noticed is, at least in GTA3, the brightness and contrast sliders appear to be inverted?

The game was unplayably dark when I started it and increasing the brightness slider didn't do much, but actually putting it to 0 made it brighter & playable...

[brewin]

@orchard

Yes they are 🤣🤦 and even when you turn it all the way 👇 it's still sooo dam dark! I even tried turning off all HDR options on series X 🤷

[DarXyde]

And now you know why they're re-releasing these games instead of making GTA VI.

It's not the same Rockstar. Historically, these people are afraid to put their names on anything that isn't solid. The talent worth keeping left, and here we are.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

It's not because talent left, it's because they outsourced it and rushed it for the 20th anniversary of GTA 3.

The 2013 remaster was worse and came out in the same year as GTA5. lol. Then they made Red Dead Redemption 2.

[PrinceAli]

You're literally so wrong loool

[Rachel_Alucard]

There's a bunch of clues in the many faults that suggests they just used a Machine algorithm to upscale all the textures. They did 2 passes on it and many parts of the game are screwed up as a result and yet nobody bothered to go in and fix anything during development.

For example here you can see the text being so low res the AI thought the M was an H and changed it to adjust.
https://puu.sh/IoQJZ/b7dc9f...

here's another example any human remaking it wouldn't have done
https://puu.sh/IoQKB/9d82bc...

Finally here's where they did one pass and the AI made a 7 in greyscale, then they did another and it changed it to a 9
https://puu.sh/IoQNr/120dbb...

I am not surprised by this since looking at their history I doubt any of them have experience in making large scale remasters, their entire studio knowledge is from mobile ports with minimal effort placed in them. There is no way that studio was equipped to handle this with how many people were on the team.

Overall this is one of the worst remasters on the market and I can't believe people are ready to fork over at least $60 for this, despite the fact R* removed the games off Steam and sold them exclusively on their launcher, took down all HD mods to push this trash, and had one of the least productive dev teams on this in the first place. It's literally just nostalgia and branding carrying sales because quality is nowhere to be found.

[Good-Smurf]

The definitive edition actually have more bugs than original.
Then you add in cutscenes that won't line up and location indicator still show during cutscenes less or no collision compared to original.
I actually see one user showed that tenpenny car drive and clipped through a train they supposed to wait in the cutscenes.
Physics toned down or non existent in certain mission.
Terrible audio compression etc.
It's a mess.

[CDbiggen]

It's an abysmal job across the board.

[jBlakeeper]

Please no. They need to focus on GTA VI. But I’ll be happy if they release one new game this gen.

[Relientk77]

This literally hurt my eyes, like wow.

[Inverno]

Why does it avoid water?

[Knightofelemia]

I'll stick with SA I bought at Wal Mart for my XB1 only paid $18 for it but like wow wasn't aware GTA took place in an area where there are monsoons or hurricanes. Even my PS2 and OG Xbox copies can pull off rain better then this. Talk about rain on steroids looks like it could stab you.

[fitofficial]

Agreed. It needs to be dialed back a lot. GTA 3 is unplayable when it rains.

[masterfox]

lol , oh Rockstar you are so cheap in quality atm.

[LordoftheCritics]

Wow its like tv noise.

[Profchaos]

GTA 3 and sa rain is horrible I find it really annoying that the raindrop pattern on the ground is a pure grid shape and it's got no transparency at all it's very annoying.

[NoLifeLoser]

San Andreas could use the rain honestly.

[GameZenith]

Will Rockstar finally get the CDPR treatment?

[-Hermit-]

They should. Charging $60 for this is a joke. Definitive Edition? yeah right.

[badz149]

This is actually a pretty hilarious blunder

[Good-Smurf]

So it's either so clear that you can see the whole map or it rains like no tomorrow and can't see jack shit.
Well done Grove Street games.

[Nacho_Z]

This got me interested to see what kind of 'amateur' made mods you can get for SA, and damn...what could have been. In the right hands this remaster could have looked amazing.

[GarrettHawke]

I have been playing GTA 3 for a good few hours on series X and think i have an explanation for this terrible rain. If you look closely i think the reason behind this is due to the fact that the rain doesnt actually cover the map. It appears to be a personal cloud over the character an ends a short distance around and infront of your character. This is easy to spot if you look at the ground a few feet infront of the character you will see no rain hitting the ground past this point. I think the overblown drops coming down in such a way has been done to try and hide this being the case otherwise you would more clearly be able to spot that the rain does not cover the area correctly. While I feel this explains this effect I do not think this justifys the poor "throw rain at the screen to hide it" approach that the developers have taken.

[Starman69]

Some people complain at owt lol. Rating a tad heavy and one ore two crashes. Having tons of fun and really enjoy it! 👍

[madcowz64]

Glad I’m waiting for the physical release but even then I don’t think they’ll fix these messes.

[FacelessGaming]

Yeah the rain on GTA3 is very poor, makes your eyes go funny and cannot concentrate on the road ahead.

[Psychotica]

Sounds like good evidence that they never tested it.

[Azraeia]

Personally loving playing SA on my XSX but this is a nightmare. Rain looks awful and makes the game so hard to actually see.

[Darkborn]

I am so glad I passed on this game. I learned my lesson on games they barely show until like a day before release.

[darkrider]

Cash grabber. Nothing more!

[Chocoburger]

Shameful trash demasters (as in downgrade), of three legendary games. By a publisher with near infinite money so they could easily have taken their time to release excellent ports. But no, of course not.

Release garbage, then have the intern tweet out an apology for releasing unplayable junk. Then hope gamers forget when you release your next hype trailer for your next trash game. Then the cycle repeats.

[SDuck]

we: the mirror simulator the modders did to GTA games during rain looks bad
Rockstar: hold my beer!

[sourOG]

The controls aren’t as good as I imagined. I played a bit of vice city and I’m enjoying the nostalgia but I wish I waited. 20-30 bucks in a sale and I wouldn’t have that feeling. I regret the 60.