Bethesda Game Studios' Starfield allows players to choose the pronouns they want, while the game's dialogue will adjust to accommodate these choices, per creative director Todd Howard.
No Zur or Zim? Smh.
"In space Zurs or Zims can't hear you scream"
No please can we not go all woke in games, stuff like this always comes off as fake, trying too hard for approval, if you wanta put in gender pronouns then just do it, 99% dont care but advertising it s cringy & more annoying than anything.
I'm not going to complain about anyone being able to do this in their game, RPGs are about personalisation. But I think this low-effort article is as newsworthy as saying gamers will be able to choose if their character has long or short hair - which is not newsworthy at all. My suspicion is that these websites that think they're superior to ordinary gamers will try and outdo each other with these deliberate showpiece articles. I'm not a mod but going forward as pronoun choice becomes standard my recommendation is that stories like this be rejected.
4show Tbh comments complaining about going all woke sound more like crying than this comes off as fake. They're just trying to relate to the times. You think games aren't progressive and don't change with the time? Like come on. I'm personally against pronouns in general because factually you are what you're born as. You can't tell me you feel like a unicorn and you can't tell me you aren't your biological gender. With that, I respect choice to let people do what they want as long as they're not forcing me into doing what they're doing. As long as I got my choices I'm good. Let people live and stop hating on everything lmao
Teflon02 I'm not hating, but just like I would cringe if a dev or journalist made a headline telling me theres black people or handicapped people in a game I feel like its unnecessary....inclusivity comes from the heart & people should just discover it on their own, when you have to say it, again it comes off as just a fake marketing attempt like alot corporations are doing these days. I mean think about it, wouldn't it have been a much better story if this news came out with people (transgender) PLAYING AND DISCOVERING they could change pronouns/conversation? Wouldn't it feel much more organic, rather than done as hey look how woke Iam ad?
Zur was the commander of the Kodan Armada in "The last Starfighter". so, there's that.....
Teflon02, Your definitions are a bit dated. Understand the oxymoron that is "biological gender". Chappelle made the same error. Love the guy, just a momentary misunderstanding. Gender is a social construct based on norms of biological sex. There are languages that actually have no gender specific pronouns. I happen to think that works best and streamlines communication, especially for non-native speakers. Let's think about this for a moment though: if I, a male, created a character who is biologically female, how much sleep is anyone losing? If the answer is anything above 0, it's time to re-evaluate priorities. That all being said, I like 4Sh0w's perspective that I really have no issue with it whatsoever, but it is just seeing publicity to advertise it like this as astonishing pandering. This is kneeling with Kente cloth bad. Let the media figure it out and report on it (if they REALLY feel the need to) when they get their hands on it. Just my two cents.
Yes please. I want to fulfill my fantasy of being Invader Zim.
Lol. Fun fact the game is exactly a year away from now.
As a middle aged white straight male I am thrilled about this news. I've had trouble really dialing it in.
Call me they from now on
.........cringe, wondering if npcs gonna start the dialogue with im male, white, red hair, pansexual..... lmao. PS: if i dont find attack chopper pronoun im gonna riot.... xD
why do you care?
Seriously. It's an option for people who want it. Anyone who doesn't, just pick what you want and move on.
People care because look at the current affairs... It does NOT stop here, its a snowball rolling down hill and gaining speed....
itBourne. Yeah, you’re going to be relied on to think a bit more about options. Boo boo. You could gaming from thinking a bit more, about anything really. Lazy virgin types are ruining a lot for a lot of people because they’re lazy and unwanted, with simple lives.
Why? Because it is stupid. It is pointless and a waste of time virtue signaling when the world has much bigger problems. It is something that is penetrating all of culture at very high speed. It is something that we are expected to participate in in trying remember who to call what. We are all getting obsessed about who likes to stick their genitals where and that’s disgusting. (Like who tf cared about where Superman got his hots from. Now that is something the creators feel the need to specify) — If something comes up to you that looks like a dog, you will call it a dog (like a sensible human being). That is common sense and it literally works like that for every thing in human history ever. lf you look like a man, I will call you a man. If you look like a woman, I will call you a woman. If you have a problem with that, look like what you want to be called.
@cs7 And now you’re virtue signalling by moaning about it
Why people care so much that a game now let choose your pronouns?
*literally in the death rattles of western society* "Why do you care?"
"when the world has much bigger problems" Agreed, so stop wasting your energy obsessing over culture war issues that literally don't matter
^ Ignoring one of the individual problems in the list of individual problems that have put us here probably isn't the way to go. Honestly though I'm not sure anymore why I waste any time commentating on video games so I'm going to go. I'm sorry I've been such a prick, I am a shame of a person. Jesus rose from the dead.
You people are so corny looool... You've got one joke and one take when it comes to this topic literally grow up or just STFU it's as simple as that really
let me be a grow up and answer in the same way, nah and STFU!
@Ecchiless You're a dumbass.. that's real clear to see
Lol I grew up in a house where men aren’t too sensitive. This shits hilarious. 😂🤣😂 United Sensitive Americans
That’s what happens when a country’s education system is designed to keep people poor and angry. I feel sorry for the dumber ones because they’re a victim of a bad education system.
What about prepositions though?
Preferred pronouns are so yesterday. Gendered participles is all the rage.
My participle is dangling
Yeah, but when we're talking "16 times the pronouns"..
@Dixiedevil I hear there's a pill for that ;)
And just like that, Starfield not looking too good anymore.
How does an extra option in character create screen make a game worse?
Funny how these people are so vocal against censorship until a game does something they disapprove of.
@goldwyncq Censorship? No one here is suggesting that this game should be censored.
You are mistaken. The worry isn't about the inclusion of choice of pronouns, but rather that other kind of content won't make the cut due to being "problematic." As you can see, Todd Howard went about to 'signal' this particular feature despite it really being absolutely trivial. A lot of other games these days (e.g. Demon's Souls, Halo Infinite etc) just silently stopped use Male/Female when selecting a body type but "Body A/Body B" - obviously to make trans people feel more included. There was no need for a PSA and fanfare, they just added it in, and nobody took issue. The "woke" signalling makes us worry that the final game may become a "diluted" experience. This isn't just a theory. It's already happened. A lot of entertainment content these days just isn't enjoyable due to pandering and/or preaching.
@Eamon Exactly. I dont want to get too deep into it but its one of those things like.. So, why did you make a point to tell me that?, I mean this would be bold maybe 10 yrs ago but now its just like So, what are you trying to prove?....and while for me I just hope things like this won't end up weighing down the actual storyline by preaching rather than entertaining us. -I dont think it will, hopefully this was just a quick message saying the game is striving to be inclusive.
It's not about the game's inclusion of pronouns. It's a general annoyance about the "my pronouns are..." movement.
Fallout in space on a new engine sounds good to me
You're crying because the game offers more choices? Hahahaha
You're losing interest in a game simply because of an option that makes zero difference to your experience. That speaks volumes about you as a person.
Insane how sensitive people have become.
Forza Horizon 5 does this also as an OPTION - https://youtu.be/p_Lei_btYZ... It's a norm we all have to live with unless if it bothers you so much you start boycotting games which is a bit silly when you can just ignore it.
No issue with the options from me, if it makes a few gamers who need this happy. I am all for it.
Exactly, what's the fuss. I literally had to choose this in Forza Horizon 5 yesterday.
You can make a female char with prostethic hands and still game can refer to you as male or what ever. It's pretty cool when you don't want to look at those ugly mugs what are male faces. =P
I dont get it either. I dont care if its included but someone out there probably does so good for them. Hope it makes the game more enjoyable.
But clearly there's a lot of people here who don't want others to have an option for them, even if it has zero impact on them.
It has impact on us. This sets expectations for me to need to know who to call what. Which is stupid. You should be called what you look like. If you have a problem stop looking like something else.
@CS7 I'm gonna refer to you as Cupcake. You probably have this expection that we refer to you how you'd like, which is stupid. You should be called what you look like, and you look like a Cupcake to me, Cupcake.
@mr beatdown You can call me what ever you like I dont care. You’d seem pretty weird to call me Cupcake in real life though. I look nothing like a cupcake. But if you’re into that, power to you. Just don’t go rioting expecting the whole world to go along with your insanity.
@Cupcake It's interesting that you think it would be insane for ME to insist on calling YOU something.
I get your concerns CS7, I am just talking for me personally. I am happy to call whoever, whatever they want. Personally I don't feel obligated to, and I could easily slip on the bases of my own assumptions... But I am not embarrassed to make a mistake, if someone corrects me so be it. There is so much crap thrown at all of us in this world, I just want to mitigate what I myself throw. If someone was to feel mis-gendered and want to genuinely be represented by a specific pronoun, then I am happy to oblige... I have no interest in making anyone feel bad about being them. That's them, I am me... and we all want to feel understood as ourselves. So I don't agree with your opinion, but I can understand your concern. You're frightened of the expectation and that's fine, I am not.
It’s not like it’s a bad thing it’s just for a Bethesda game there’s SO MANY things that should be put first
Oh you know when this game comes out and it inevitably has catastrophic bugs, the comments are always going to be "you should have focused on making the game run rather than the pronouns." It will be like when Bioware announced they were focusing on diversity and then Mass Effect: Andromeda was a trainwreck.
But can I change mid conversation? I'd hate to have to min max my gender.
I think it's great the the option is there for those that want it but it really did not need it's own article because that just makes it seem like pandering. This just gives people an opportunity to be toxic.
Todd isn't the real problem, it's these stupid media sites reporting on these things all the time and as a result the reaction they get to them just provides more data to these companies thinking this is their playerbase or that it is sufficiently large enough to warrant recording an entire game worth of dialogue just so people call you a they. Same with many other games. I suspect it's mainly Twitter they rely on for info because they believe that is the casual userbase to them, when it's just angry activists who just look for any social injustice at all anywhere that's a single tweet away from interacting with. These people will never go out on the streets with signs, only takes a single tweet from them to get people to lose their jobs or other things.
Jesus, why do y’all even care?
Why do the developers care? Should be the 1st question. To make money, is the answer. THATS why people care about this shite.
Because they are giving a product to a larger group of people. They are just providing the option to do it. Not everyone is the same. if adding some pronouns to a game can make someone feel like the character are more like them then I’m all for it. At the end of the day games are made to just tune out of what’s going happening around the world. A way to get away and what this shows me is a developer that cares about its audience.
I guarantee there are members of the LGBTQ+ community making the game and/or are making it for their family members and friends who are LGBTQ+. To want people to feel included is never a bad thing. The world we live in is f*cked because everyone is pitted against each other. Us vs them is the end of all of us. So don't worry about an option put into a game to help someone feel included. If you were in their shoes you would want the same thing. Empathy people.
Cause they have the right to care, seems some would prefer to stifle other peoples feelings and opinions on the subject, sorry but until it gets completely taken away freedom of speech and personal opinion even those that dont align with your own is still a thing. If you dont agree with then act like you dont "even care" and don't comment about them.
I'm going to be honest........ This whole pronoun BS is really getting on my nerves. This is the one issue that I think proves the point that media/propaganda can and does has influence over the minds of the general population. You have 5 year olds getting upset about being called the incorrect pronoun on zoom meetings. My 5 year old thinks that Pokemon battles are real and keeps throwing pokeballs at me lol. They are ruining these kids childhood.
Dunno. Played violent games for years now and have yet to kill someone or think that violence is normal.
I wonder if the genders will have a skill tree too.
Lmao! Oh man they know how to turn on the hype machine. I’m sure Twitter has soiled their diapers.