IGN : Battlefield and Call of Duty. One brought giant-scale all-out warfare to the mainstream. The other brought the mainstream to first-person shooters. Call of Duty and Battlefield are both titans of the FPS genre, attached at the hip and endlessly pit against one another, and 2021 sees the two heavyweights going toe-to-toe again, with the launches of Call of Duty: Vanguard and Battlefield 2042 just a couple of weeks apart. Join us as we chart the storied battle Call of Duty and Battlefield as they wade through million-dollar lawsuits, high-profile terminations, last-minute developer changes and bug-riddled launches.
EA:
While we’ve enjoyed and are proud of creating these seasons of additional content for Battlefield 2042, it is now necessary for us to turn from the present to the future. What this ultimately means is that Season 7 will serve as the final season for Battlefield 2042. After Season 7 concludes, we will continue to support the game with new in-game challenges, events, modes, and of course, ongoing maintenance, but we are moving away from delivering official seasons.
Call of Duty: Vanguard has sold over 30 million copies, a milestone confirmed by the game's former social media strategist.
That's the thing about Call of Duty: it gets panned online, but still sells gangbusters.
Begs the question: is the online community complaining truly a vocal minority, or are people just unprincipled? Both I'm sure, but to what extent?
It's all about the hive mind, and I'm no exception to it. We buy each installment pretty much every year, regardless of the next installment being an improvement or not. Sad to say, but it is what it is.
People know what they like, it’s really that simple. The people who play CoD love CoD and unlike the minority gamers they will support it regardless.
The vocal people online will make sure a game burns they don’t like without even trying it. But, the CoD crowd will buy the game PLAY it and give feedback that goes towards their games growth.
And as long as they can get online and shoot people they will continue to support it.
Cod is not the same anymore, I didn't buy this one or mw3 and I no longer care about the franchise... People complain about Spider-Man 2 as being a copy paste but cod is the same game every single year and they're ok with that.
@cptn you further validate the point, people who enjoy it keep playing, and people like you who don’t stop. But 30 million is greater than your displeasure of the game.
And if they like it, they’ll keep playing and paying.
"are people just unprincipled?"
I mean... You're on this site. You've seen the discourse over COD, how awful it is, yet how aful Microsoft was for taking COD away from PS gamers, despite not once saying they wanted to do that.
Another similar one - fans of BG3 since day one refusing to buy Alan Wake 2 because it doesn't have a physical edition. Or anyone calling 30fps unacceptable but is enjoying DD2. Or anyone complaining about bloated open world games yet is complaining about shorter, focused narratives.
I've said something like this many times. When something is huge...it could be music, video games etc, it is fashionable to start the hate. I have loved every iteration of COD. Each has it's own merits. I have enjoyed them all and have never had a problem proclaiming it even when people heckled me. Oh well. People gonna hate.
Just like Madden and Fifa (FC), the audience is conditioned to buy every year by EA and ATVI.
Why talk about Vanguard? It was still the best selling game of that year. And at a 70+ metacritic.
Modern Warfare 3 last year was the 2nd best selling game of the year(been awhile since it wasn't 1st) and at a 50+ metacritic.
It would be cool to see the sales for all the call of duties to see if there's a trend and to compare.
I have only bought 2-3 CoD’s ever and the last time I bought one was at least a decade ago. The only reason I bought it back then was to play with my Son who was still in high school. I got some copies for free here and there from friends but I would only play the campaign. I’ve been burned out on PVP since Battlefield Vietnam on PC , Planetside stuff like that. I do enjoy PVE if done well but I doubt I’ll ever play a PVP game again unless they do something totally different than what’s been done before and I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
I have friends that buy every CoD and I ask them why do they still play after 20 years of the same game? Most of them say because of their online friends or real life friends that play it. Not because the game is good or it’s better than the last.
Maybe because people pre ordered it. I have pre ordered every COD since COD MW 2019. I enjoyed mw and cold war. Didn't play beta to vanguard I just pre ordered it like 2 days before release and regretted it a few days after release as it was bad.
Streamer Shroud says that DICE paid 60 to a hundred content creators to help develop Battlefield 2042, but ignored every single advice.
No wonder the game ended up the way it did
What they should've done was ask BF fans. Most general content creators typically go for the trend and the top creators stream games like LOL, fortnite, dota, gtaV, battle royale etc.
A lot of times people want a game to be something else and I'd probably guess a lot of people wanted call of duty or a lot of it's features.
Bf2042 is amazing now but was not so much at launch. A lot of improvements made the game an amazing game with its own identity. I'm hoping the new battlefield game coming next year improves upon everything in bf2042 and is more akin to bf3 and bf4.
A ton of people have written the game off now. Which is unfortunate because I find it to be one of the best multiplayer shooters available now. I've been aware that a Battlefield game has not launched in a good condition since....I don't remember. So I never played at launch due to the horror stories, but it seems to have pulled a Battlefield 4 and really turned itself around. Good stuff. Love getting 4 kills on an apc with a well placed RPG, or Stinger to a loaded chopper lol. No other game has given me that kind of joy. lol.
Look, I wouldn't pee on an influencer if they were on fire, but why pay for their feedback only to ignore it?
I don't know. Maybe they thought it was a good idea at first but eventually found out that it was best to ignore influencers' opinions?
I’ll give some advice and take money for it. You can use it or not use it just make sure to pay me
Battlefield fans just want Battlefield to be Battlefield. Which means a focus on Conquest-mode (5/6 flags), some gorgeous and fun maps to play on, 4 balanced classes, and that's it.
The suits keep wanting to turn Battlefield into everything else BUT Battlefield, so first they wanted BF to be more like Call of Duty, so they copied a bunch of stuff from CoD. Then they wanted to take advantage of the Battle Royale stuff, so they went after that crowd. Then they saw the heroes stuff in Overwatch and so they brought in specialists. Etc.
Guys, we just want Battlefield. Not every games has to be everything to all people. Specialize in what makes (made) your series great, which is large(r) maps (appropriate size for the amount of players, which IMO should be 24-32 max, so not just big for bragging brights), integrating vehicle-combat, and just allowing the freedom and flow which made those matches in older Battlefield games so special at times.
Yeah, and about as fruitful as the Playstation vs Xbox debate.
Yeah they've both lost their way
Battlefield is becoming more like cod with every release and always decided to chase the trends of other shooters. Not to say cod doesn’t do the same thing, but while I admire battlefields attempts, call of duty has a polish and presentation that I’m sure Dice wishes they had. Cod has multiple iterations every year but I won’t lie, I really enjoy the more tactical and realistic approach they attempt to make with the modern warfare series as of late. I honestly wish bf would stop chasing trends though and give us another incredible high desctruction classic like bad company 2 was. If we have to use portal to live out those incredible games however, so be it. But 2042s new mode and hazard zone kinda fall flat on their face with no real pull to keep players playing