Skyrim: Anniversary Edition has been announced, and so has new content for the base game.
While Bethesda celebrates Skyrim's anniversary, it is worth remembering that the long-awaited Starfield should have launched this month too.
It’s foolish to say that one RPG is "better" than all the rest across systems and generations. This is merely the 25 RPGs we feel are the best and nothing more!
Dragon Quest 11 isn't even the best Dragon Quest game, it's a good game, but not the best. Dragon Quest 8 is superior to it in almost every way.
OK let's end this, in order
Xenogears
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 6
Chrono Trigger
Legend of Dragoon
Breath of Fire 4
Breath of Fire 3
Dragon Quest 8
Dragon Quest 11
Vagrant Story
Saga Frontier 2
Chrono Cross
Suikoden 2
Suikoden
Threads of Fate
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XII
Lunar 2
I don't play too many jrpgs, and I'm trying to diversify a bit.
Outside of FF and Dragon Quest, what two games from that list do you most recommend someone trying? Doesn't matter if it's a sequel to another game or not.
You have Threads of Fate on there which means you get my ultimate respect. Underrated and overlooked.
I like your top 6 a lot. I don't have the same orders but all those games would make my top 10 RPG list most likely. Number 1 for me is FFIX. It holds a special place in my heart and imo it's the perfect Final Fantasy game.
In addition I would give special mention to some western RPG's as well: Skyrim and Mass Effect 2 were iconic games. Out of JRPG's I'd like to add Disgaea 2 on that list.
Some of my personal favorites are Planescape: Torment, New Vegas, Morrowind, Kotor 2, Wasteland 3, Witcher 2, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium and Vampyr.
As far as jrpg, while I'm not as big a fan as I am for Western RPGs, I love Persona 3 - 5, Dragon Quest 8 and 11, Rogue Galaxy, Final Fantast 6,7, and 12; and Lost Odyssey.
Some quality taste in games there squire.
I'd add some Baldurs Gate 2 and Neverwinter Nights from back in the day too.
Should have added BG2. Played through it many times over the years.
Never could get into Neverwinter Nights though. Not sure why.
Surprised to see Pokemon, Star Ocean, Dragon Age, and Fable. Not sure I'd put any of those series on a best of all time list for RPG's, but overall, solid list!
Xenogears, Legend of Dragoon, Xenosaga Trilogy, Ar Tonelico for my choice I love the game. FFX, FF8, I know a lot of people will also say FF9. Lunar, Parasite Eve, Trails of Cold Steel, Y's. I would also add in Tales of Berseria, Arise, Xillia, Symphonia, Vesperia, Wild Arms 4 and 5. The list is subjective because everybody is going to list games they think should also be on the list. Then you will reach a general consensus on certain titles like say Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, FF7 the main games that hit every bodies mind.
I would replace persona 5 with either 3 or 4. I think they had much more interesting plots and setting.
I liked 3 but I though personas keep getting better and better with 5 being best. The style, music and story was awesome. I did however like the characters from persona 4 the best though
In no particular order:
Chrono Trigger (except for this one, this is my favorite RPG of all time. The DS version is an excellent re-release w/ added stuff, including a canon 13th True Ending linking to Chrono Cross)
Chrono Cross (PS1)
Final Fantasy IV (my favorite FF, DS remake is also amazing)
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII (Original version, I have played some of the Remake and it is awesome, but haven't beaten it)
Final Fantasy X
Rogue Galaxy (PS2)
Shadow Hearts: Covenant (PS2, please, PLEASE, check this out if you can)
Sword of Mana (GBA, this is an interesting one. This is a remake of Final Fantasy Adventure, the first Mana game, for the original GameBoy and it is amazing. They then remade FFA into Adventure of Mana, which is basically a direct graphical upgrade and very different from the Sword of Mana remake, which takes the FFA story and makes everything about it even better)
Secret of Mana (SNES)
Mass Effect 1-3 (Talimancer)
Dragon Age Origins
Dragon Age 2 (this gets a lot of hate, but Bioware introduced the 2nd best companion of all time with Varric. The banter w/ the Main Character's sarcastic set and Varric is glorious)
Transistor (Great art, combat, music)
Super Mario RPG (SNES)
Legend of Dragoon (PS1)
Knights of the Old Republic 1-2
Honorable Mentions:
Hades (does this count as an RPG?)
Parasite Eve 1-2 (PS1, loved both games)
I am sure there are several more that are just slipping my mind right now.
It took over 10 years on this site but I finally found someone that enjoys Dragon Age II besides myself, lol
Except for the repeating maps, I think it is an excellent game. A smart-ass Hawke w/ Varric led to some fantastic dialogue and comedic moments, with some touching scenes here and there. The combat was improved from Origins and more enjoyable. All around, a great sequel that got a lot of hate.
Something about the classic JRPG's where magical. Something like the title the box art, or the screenshots on the back of the box was usually what captivated you to purchase it, or at least rent it.
To me Chrono Trigger is a must play for any fan of the genre. Playing that game completely blind is such a rewarding experience, the build up for Magus was great, that battle theme when you face him gave me goosebumps back then.
Little do you know, fighting him to a stalemate is just the beginning.
Chrono Trigger was not my first RPG but it was the one that had me start actively seeking out more games in the genre and I'm thankful for that and the team of devs at Squaresoft that made such a amazing game, had it not been for them I likely would have never cared about a Final Fantasy 7 or a Breath of Fire or any of that.
No Phantasy Star game? No Skies of Arcadia?
No dice. I could easily replace some of those on the list with others.
I don’t get the SoA hyped. Played the Dreamcast version and thought It was nothing special
It's subjective. Like the article list. But SOA had great gameplay, characters, music and story. I got the same Sega RPG fun and enjoyment as old Genesis Phantasy Star games. Battles may have been frequent and somewhat annoying as you traveled. But it never ruined the experience.
I need to give it another go now that I'm older. Hopefully Sega will remaster or remake it
Chrono trigger was such a great game I wish they would remake it and keep all the same elements like they did Demon Souls.
Some favorites of mine are Fallout 3, Persona 5 Royal, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age II, Dying Light, Crystar, Final Fantasy VIII, Diablo III, Cyberpunk 2077, Alpha Protocol, The Outer Worlds and Kingdoms of Amulur.
Not a list for me..no chrono cross, no nier, but fable 2 lmfao made it.some of the games belong tho.
Star Ocean 2 being on this list is definitely right but where’s xenogears, breath of fire 3 or 4, final fantasy 6 or 8, legend of dragoon, lunar 1 and 2 for Christ sake. Damn scratching my head at some games on this list
For me....
1. FF7
2. Earthbound
3. Chrono Trigger
4. FF8
5. Parasite Eve
6. Breath of Fire 3
7. FF Tactics
8. Zelda Majora's Mask
9. Zelda OoT
10. FF Crisis Core ( Hard to get 10 honestly. A ton of games could have gone here. Big drop off from 9 to 10+. )
Disco Elysium, Xenogears, Vagrant Story and Dragon Quest V should be on there, or just simply added. Chrono Cross was great, too, and so was Xenosaga I-III, but not among the top. Mother 2 is really good too.
A game that came out in 2011, still relevant at the turn of the century. There couldn’t possibly be anything like that in the real world.
To the point : "We are going to be playing Skyrim forever. Or, at least, I will be."
Yeah it will just be you, you could have just cut to the chase and not have been so dramatic and drawn out about it. Perhaps Windhelm theater is more your speed? ;P
Skyrim is still widely played, especially by PC players. It still receives large amounts of mods on sites like Nexus amd is thr most modded game on there. These mods can create awhole new experience.
As a big modder myself.... Mods are the only reason the game is any good. The core game is pretty poor, glitchy and boring.
Mods though really make it shine as the game then becomes a custom experience
Depending on how Bethesda handles Elder Scrolls 6 if they turn into some stupid GAAS model with battle passes, Septim packs, and paid mods, we WILL be playing Skyrim forever and we'll like it that way.
just stop this nonsense, they made one bad game with gaas, and no other. Theyve still been releasing really good games the last couple years, so what makes you think they will make the next mainline ES title gaas? there is absolutely no chance that will happen. Theyve also learned from FO76 that they cant pull this shit again.
They didn't learn that they "can't pull this shit again". They just learned how not to do it and how to do it better. Plus the acquisition from Microsoft isn't going to exactly help.
''They've also learned from FO76 that they cant pull this shit again''
We don't know that yet.
Maybe they learned that they need to find a better way to not get caught with their bs?
Correction, bethesdas other studios have been making really good games. Bethesda Softworks on the other hand are some worst on the industry and they always get a free pass. If any other game releases with bugs, dated animations, dated graphics, bad voice acting, piss poor performance, crashes etc they would be left out to dry but Bethesda get a free pass because it has good writing... The part we don't play ironically.
@lionguard "cant pull this shit again" and "how not to do it" is the same you know. why wouldnt the ms aquisition help? because it isnt Sony? the fewer platforms they release games on, the more they can focus on the platforms they do release on. it sucks you cant play it on ps and i wont be buying an xbox anytime soon, so that kinda stinks.
@critics id like to believe that some of the top guy at bethesda arent full blown idiots and realize they cant make the same mistake from FO76 again. You are talking like they fucked up 5+ games like they did FO76, its one game....yeah it was a dumpster fire and they did get all the shit for it that they deserved, but its not like they have been doing that stuff for decades.
@kyro if you think they get away with it just because of good writing you should maybe open your eyes and ears. Also they dont always get away with it, FO4 wasnt as praised and then there is FO76. and after skyrim and FO4/76 they havent released any new game, so what exactly are they getting away with?
I'm going to fire up oblivion again soon, then Skyrim. Incredible games that need a revists, especially with some mods
I don't know about that for certain.
Pac-man, Ms Pac-man, Galaga, Tetris, Minecraft, etc. All have been milked for a very long time.
Minecraft is probably the one game that likely did make more than GTA if not about the same.
@Teflon02 Minecraft made upwards of 3.5billion giving an assumed 500ish million made this year which is being generous. GTAV made over 6billion as of april 2021
Sonic 1 and 2 has been released on every single generation since they've existed.
Sega Gen
Sonic jam
Sonic mega collection
Sonics ultimate Gen collection and vintage release on stores
Ps4 one Sega Gen collection
3d versions on 3ds. Advance Sonic Gen
Ps5 and series X as well as older getting the origin collection lol.
That's what you call milking. GTA is still a baby at this point
agree! and lets add some others to the list (Mario Kart 8 and all its versions and SIMS 4)
I bought it on release for the PS3. I bought the remastered for the PS4, but still I haven't finished it. I'm hoping for a PS5 version but then with better controls for the controller. The shortcut menu isn't really a short cut to be honest.
At least some developers create massive and rich games like this that can be played for hundreds of hours 10+ years down the road. As a Sony fan, I’d really like some of their teams to step up and create games like this.
Bloodborne will age better than Skyrim and it is a Sony exclusive. Dark Souls came out the same year as Skyrim. It was better then and it is way better now.
I cannot fathom why people bring up Bloodborne… SONY JAPAN DID NOT DEVELOP THIS GAME. Lol, BB is a FromSoftware title and a sequel from Sony 1st party will never see the light of day as unfortunate as it is (I am a Sony fan and want them to be better than simply paying writers to come in and write B grade stories for their games). I’ve accepted the sad fact that Sony devs are incapable of creating RPG’s. They require way too much skill, passion and forward thinking world building and progression. Until Sony switches their philosophy on game design I will continue to be disappointed.
@Lore Does it really matter if it's first or second party if it's a good game? Hell, we wouldn't have the Souls series at all if Sony hadn't have given support to From Software for the original Demons Souls. Sony had a hand in that series from the start and it's safe to say that they still consider the series to be the backbone of the modern PlayStation experience considering the remake. Sony (like Microsoft) is a producer first and foremost. They both acquire and develop outside talent to build their first party lineups.
Sorry to hear they don't "take writing seriously" enough for you. I'm sure you can find something among the thousand copy pasted first person shooters on Game Pass to tide you over if you get bored.
@enkidu yeah thats why so many people are making content/playing bloodborne, its a great game but it doesnt have the lasting that skyrim has with its unending mod support. Also not sure why you need to say which game is better, one is a sandbox rpg, the other a souls game. it just depends on your taste.
@lore
Have you also accepted the fact that you won't get story quality games anywhere else but from Sony? Or is this a one way street?
Not to mention Sony devs haven't tried big open world games like Skyrim. Few devs have.
Checkout Steam, Nexus, etc and you will see Skyrim is still widely played. BB will not be heavily supported or played st it's 10 year anniversary or before.
That is a fine point you make regarding not having the games if it wasn’t for Sony financing the 2nd party development costs. The issue with this is that because Sony chose to finance versus acquiring the talented studio that can do the job consistently for them or open a studio that has the talent to do the job, they now essentially teased all new fans of the game (Bloodborne, Demon’s Souls, Dark Cloud, etc.) and it has been 7 years since release with no sequel in sight. When compared to Microsoft’s smart new strategy, their fans are going to get the be eating good (regardless of how horrible as the last 2 decades have been for them).
Fable, Avowed, Elder Scrolls, Starfield and Fallout are games that are going to garner huge fan bases and the fans will get consistent sequels for those deep massive games. Also those games can still have great stories. Sony needs to figure it out.
Eh, i'm more of a fan of Oblivion. And there's a lot they have to prove with ES6 after their many examples of running games with greed and lackluster polish lately.
Wolfenstein young blood and rage 2 were riddled with MTs, and it ruined youngblood. Then all their absolute garbage "collectors edition" BS with the "canvas" bags and falsely advertised nuka cola bottle. Also trying to force people to pay for free mods with their "creation club" garbage. Not to mention the extreme milking of skyrim with little to no effort put into the rereleases
Yeah, Young Blood wasn't good. You said many and you and I only names one a piece, which makes two bad games out of many good to great games. Where are the rest of the many games you mentioned?
I never had to pay for legal free mods on Nexxus.
Well being on PlayStation what choice do it have, I'll just play in PSVR and wander the land growing in power until I can just over power everything.
I've never played it though, lol .. Got platinum trophies for Fallout 3 and 4 though. Skyrim is on my wanted list for Switch games though.
I absolutely can’t stand Skyrim, I most certainly will not be playing it forever.
Reinstalled the special edition messed with some mods started the story.... It just isn't there anymore it's time for a new ES
I only ever played when it first came out. I didn't play the special edition or any of the DLC. I haven't been playing it forever. I'm going to play the new anniversary edition but I don't feel any guilt in doing so. It has tons of content I've never played, plus the 600+ creation club mods that they've added in.
After my first playthrough of skyrim I have tried to restart the game god knows how many times, but I barely put in 10 hours at most on any of those playthroughs before just stopping. It's a hard game to replay.
Nope. You maybe. I moved on a long time ago. That game was good in 2011 but it feels really dated now.
Not all of us. I've tried 3 times and never gotten past the first ~5 hours and so I've given up. And that was years and years ago.
As long as I can play the Skyrim very special edition on Alexa there will be no other game I shall play on that system (i would need to start buying an Alexa)
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But seriously Skyrim is still one of the most played games on Steam with an average of 20 000 ppl currently playing
Talk about a feat for a single-player game.
Crazy as successful as Skyrim was there really hasn’t been to many more rpg’s made like that. Witcher 3’s the only other one I was able to really get into.
does this writer not understand what a century is?
Headline reads: "A game that came out in 2011, still relevant at the turn of the century."
I was busy smoking cigars & working so I didn't have time, rather, the dedication for Skyrim when it dropped. I did pick up the PS4 version several years ago but it's so dated, imo. That and I apparently wasn't in the mood the one time I started Skyrim. Only playing for about as long as it took for me to create a character lol. Anyway, never played Skyrim and at this point there's a good chance I never will. There are plenty of great games out there to be played and more coming every month. Perhaps if the PS5 version offers better graphics and performance I'll consider giving it a shot should the time present itself but as of today, I just have too many games I want to experience.
I haven't played it since like 2012
I personally don't like the game so I'm still only on 1 copy bought
"A game that came out in 2011, still relevant at the turn of the century"
The turn of the century was a decade before that, so...um...
I never got the hype of skyrim, I played a lot of it. Probably over 50 hours maybe 100hrs. But it's not this ground breaking god of a game for me. I like the fallout universe a little more. But outside of mods and bugs, I never quite got the same level of amazement as everyone else.
It was pretty interesting for its time. A lot of people fall in love with the jank of these games s they find the weird writing choices and strange glitches to be part of the appeal. I just think we need to move on at some point. No one is going to bother making Elder Scrolls 6 if Elder Scrolls 5 keeps selling. Look at GTA 5.
I'm still waiting for Skyrim Together to get finished. Or is that no longer a thing?
Who's actually buying this?
Honestly at this point I just wished they remastered Oblivion for a change instead of this every 2 weeks.
Would be nice if the new content came to the existing editions on various consoles.