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PS5 and Xbox Series Sales Remain Ahead of Predecessors - Worldwide Hardware Estimates for Oct 10-16

The Nintendo Switch was the best-selling console with 393,594 units sold for the week ending October 16, according to VGChartz estimates. The Switch has now sold an estimated 92.84 million units lifetime.

Following the launch of the Switch OLED Model the previous week, the new Switch was severely supply constrained in its second week.

The PlayStation 5 sold an estimated 256,032 units to bring its lifetime sales to 12.99 million units. The Xbox Series X|S sold 168,933 units to bring their lifetime sales to 7.94 million units.

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darthv7241d ago

Wow, PS5 and Series are just decimating the previous gen sales. Last i read, PS5 was leading the PS4 by something like 360k units and the Series leads the XBO by 1.6m.

gravedigger41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

From where you're getting that Xseries has 1.6 mil. advantage over Xbone in same time frame, Xbox fan? There is no need to spin.

Xseries has less than a month ( 3 weeks actually) to beat Xbone 10 mil. sold in numbers in same time frame.

https://www.theverge.com/pl...

So, Xseries needs to sell in +2 million units in 3 weeks outside holiday. That didn't happened at all since launch of Xseries

DJStotty41d ago

@gravedigger

"From where you're getting that Xseries has 1.6 mil. advantage over Xbone in same time frame, Xbox fan? There is no need to spin."

Here buddy, let us help you out :-

https://www.vgchartz.com/ar...

that is data from July, a 1.45 million lead.

https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

That is the Series currently surpassing 4 years of xbox one sales in Japan, i know right? crazy.

gravedigger41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

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this was a week ago:
XB - https://www.vgchartz.com/ar...
PS - https://www.vgchartz.com/ar...
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Well, something is off then in VGChartz numbers regarding XSeries, because the link i've gave you is the official Xbone numbers stated by Satya during shareholders meeting.

darthv7241d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Well there is your problem. anytime a platform company says "sold", they actually mean "shipped". As in sold to retailers (aka shipped to stores). The numbers (as questionable as they may seem) that VGC uses are the ones reported by retailers as having been sold to customers.

The very first sentence tells you all you need to know: "Microsoft is revealing today that it will "shortly" have shipped 10 million Xbox One consoles to retailers." and to be fair, the VGC numbers only come from retailers who share that info. We all know MS doesnt anymore and yet they too sell systems through their website but its all just speculative anyways.

And so far so good from the retailers who are sharing this data. It could actually be higher for all we know, so for now this is all we know.

DJStotty41d ago

@gravedigger

"Well, something is off then in VGChartz numbers regarding XSeries, because the link i've gave you is the official Xbone numbers stated by Satya during shareholders meeting."

No, what you linked was a cherry picked article from theverge.com that was comparing xbox one, to ps4 sales, using a "consoles shipped" figure from Microsoft, nothing to do with a shareholders meeting lol.

From your article :-

"Microsoft’s sales figures count devices shipped to retailers, rather than sales directly to consumers."

The current figures are sales to consumers, not shipped figures.

gravedigger41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Quote :

Well there is your problem. anytime a platform company says "sold", they actually mean "shipped". As in sold to retailers (aka shipped to stores). The numbers (as questionable as they may seem) that VGC uses are the ones reported by retailers as having been sold to customers.

The very first sentence tells you all you need to know: "Microsoft is revealing today that it will "shortly" have shipped 10 million Xbox One consoles to retailers."

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Your problem is you've didn't read! I've mentioned SOLD IN. Shortly means in few days, maybe week. Still, Xseries numbers are way off by VGChartz because it is for now impossible for XSeries to have 1 mil. or 2 mil. units on shelves. You can add 500k shelved Xbox consoles in VGChartz numbers to artificially increase the XSeries number , still is behind Xbone.

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We all know MS doesnt anymore and yet they too sell systems through their website but its all just speculative anyways.

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We all knew that MS gave numbers till 10 mil. So, their 10 mil. is official.

darthv7241d ago

I can see you just wont let this go. okay... Sold in is the same as shipped (aka sold to retailers). And yeah, given the current situation, MS cant sell in to retailers like last time. But that doesnt detract from the sell through (sold to customers) being 1.6m more units than the xbo. Like i said, MS doesnt share the sales numbers anymore so we can only rely on retailers sharing that data. And for all we know it could be higher as there are some retailers who dont share their data.

So if you want to continue to hold onto that article where MS was 'shortly' about to stuff their 10 millionth console into a retailer warehouse... be my guest.

DJStotty41d ago

@gravedigger

At this point, you are just trying too hard, and failing on so many levels, it is best to give up the game rather than making yourself look silly.

gravedigger40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

@DjStotty

You're just blabbing and have no idea WTF you are talking about. Looks like you can't, as Xbox fans do, understand what estimated numbers is and official number is.

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"From your article :-

"Microsoft’s sales figures count devices shipped to retailers, rather than sales directly to consumers."

The current figures are sales to consumers, not shipped figures."

I dunno are you blind as shit or not, but i've mentioned SOLD IN number in very first post, Xbone fan.

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"Here buddy, let us help you out :-

https://www.vgchartz.com/ar...

that is data from July, a 1.45 million lead.

https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

That is the Series currently surpassing 4 years of xbox one sales in Japan, i know right? crazy.
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Japan isn't = whole world, Xbox pitty fan.

So, VGchartz numbers needs to beat official MS numbers by +2 mil. in 3 weeks. I've mentioned in previous post : Even if it is sold-in, Xbone numbers WERE NOT so off from sold through number back then. 1 mil. at most. VGChartz numbers are estimaded, also XSeries sold through number still is approximately 1 :1 with sold-in number,, but XSS is selling a bit slower than XSX, like i've said in previous post. So, VGchartz numbers needs to beat official Xbone 10 mil. in 3 weeks.

Cheers, Xbone fan.

darthv7240d ago

@digger... seriously why does it bother you that the SOLD IN is not the same this time? Like has been explained to you. They (MS) dont use those anymore. No matter how much you want to proclaim the series is doing worse than xbo, it just isnt. It is doing better. Back in 2013/14, the sales spread was 2:1 in favor of the PS4. Now it is only 1.625:1 in favor of the PS5, and the 5 is doing better than the 4 but that also means the Series is doing EVEN MORE than the XBO did.

You arent going to win this argument in any shape or form. so please... just stop.

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gravedigger41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

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"I can see you just wont let this go. okay... Sold in is the same as shipped (aka sold to retailers). And yeah, given the current situation, MS cant sell in to retailers like last time. But that doesnt detract from the sell through (sold to customers) being 1.6m more units than the xbo. Like i said, MS doesnt share the sales numbers anymore so we can only rely on retailers sharing that data. And for all we know it could be higher as there are some retailers who dont share their data.

So if you want to continue to hold onto that article where MS was 'shortly' about to stuff their 10 millionth console into a retailer warehouse... be my guest.

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And you also don't want to let it go too. Even if it is sold-in, Xbone numbers WERE NOT so off from sold through number back then. 1 mil. at most. VGChartz numbers are estimaded, also XSeries sold through number still is approximately 1 :1 with sold-in number,, but XSS is selling a bit slower than XSX, like i've said in previous post. So, VGchartz numbers needs to beat official Xbone 10 mil. in 3 weeks. Also, like i've said, shortly means in few days, maybe week. We all knew that MS gave numbers till 10 mil. So, their 10 mil. is official. Later can we use estimated by Zhuge or Statista etc..

We will see soon will MS say that Xseries is outpacing Xbone in new annual report

Sayai jin41d ago

Just stop. You are embarassing yourself.

Gamer7541d ago

Why do you care so much about a product that you don't like

gravedigger41d ago

@Sayai Jin

Embarrassing myself with actual facts. Sure, bud

gravedigger40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

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"Back in 2013/14, the sales spread was 2:1 in favor of the PS4. Now it is only 1.625:1 in favor of the PS5, and the 5 is doing better than the 4 but that also means the Series is doing EVEN MORE than the XBO did.

You arent going to win this argument in any shape or form. so please... just stop."

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PS5 outselling PS4 doesn't mean Xseries is doing better than Xbone. That is damn wrong logic, Xbox fan

I want to see how VG Chartz will try to push Xseries number over 10 mil. in 3 weeks. You can add 500k more Xseries which are maybe on shelves or in warehouses to boost number artificially to 8.5 mil. Arguing with delusional Xbox fan is pointless.

darthv7240d ago (Edited 40d ago )

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"PS5 outselling PS4 doesn't mean Xseries is doing better than Xbone. That is damn wrong logic, Xbox fan"
...Maybe you dont know how ratios work but dropping from 2:1 down to 1.625:1 means somebody is doing better than before. And while PS5 is doing good, that means who they are up against is also doing better as well.

PS5 - PS4: 12.99 - 12.63 (same time frame)
XS - XBO: 7.94 - 6.28 (same time frame)

How can you still sit there and ignore the fact that Series is doing better than the XBO in terms of units sold to customers, NOT shipped/sold in to stores? Like seriously, you are the epitome of a kid plugging his ears and not wanting to believe what is laid out in front of them.

Go ahead... Im ready for your next "Quote" in a new reply instead of just staying in one comment thread.

gravedigger40d ago

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"How can you still sit there and ignore the fact that Series is doing better than the XBO in terms of units sold to customers, NOT shipped/sold in to stores? Like seriously, you are the epitome of a kid plugging his ears and not wanting to believe what is laid out in front of them.

Go ahead... Im ready for your next "Quote" in a new reply instead of just staying in one comment thread."

How the hell you IGNORING the actuall officially 10 mil. numbers by MS, literally delivered in front you, instead, you are picking estimated VGchartz numbers as fact one. Get out.

And you also ignoring this one, Xbox fan, which i've mentioned few times already

Even if it is sold-in, Xbone numbers WERE NOT so off from sold through number back then. 1 mil. at most. VGChartz numbers are estimaded, also XSeries sold through number still is approximately 1 :1 with sold-in number,, but XSS is selling a bit slower than XSX and XSX is hard to find. So, there is NO BIG difference for Xseries regarding sold-through/shipped. Deal with it! So, VGchartz numbers needs to beat official Xbone 10 mil. in 3 weeks.

darthv7240d ago

I am not ignoring anything because it no longer applies. Would you like VGC to amend their reports by stating:

"" Due to MS no longer providing "Sold In" numbers, our reports only state the units sold from retailers to customers. We understand there is a discrepancy and this is normal as retailers would generally buy more stock to keep in their warehouses to replenish the shelves as they see fit. Given the current situation with lack of retailer overstock, there can be no "Sold In" numbers to report.

Channel stuffing (as it was called) was a long time practice by which platform holders would sell units to retailers to make their numbers look good to shareholders. While this is just one way to extrapolate sales data, the better way is to use sold through numbers from retailers instead. We understand that not every retailer is forthcoming with their data so all the units sold in our reports is estimated and is likely higher than stated due to those who do not wish to participate in the data collection process.

We hope you better understand the difference between shipped vs sold as it pertains to retailers and platform holders. ""

As to your constant clinging to that "10m" you so badly want to be relevant. The XBO was not a 1:1 sales success during the first year. Putting 10m units into retailers did not equal 10m individual customers at the same time. Retailers only sold about 7m in its first year but retained an additional 3m units on hand. So both sets of numbers can be correct. MS can proudly say they SOLD IN 10m units (channel stuffed) and retailers can proudly say they SOLD THROUGH 7m units to customers.

gravedigger40d ago

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"I am not ignoring anything because it no longer applies. Would you like VGC to amend their reports by stating:

"" Due to MS no longer providing "Sold In" numbers, our reports only state the units sold from retailers to customers. We understand there is a discrepancy and this is normal as retailers would generally buy more stock to keep in their warehouses to replenish the shelves as they see fit. Given the current situation with lack of retailer overstock, there can be no "Sold In" numbers to report.

Channel stuffing (as it was called) was a long time practice by which platform holders would sell units to retailers to make their numbers look good to shareholders. While this is just one way to extrapolate sales data, the better way is to use sold through numbers from retailers instead. We understand that not every retailer is forthcoming with their data so all the units sold in our reports is estimated and is likely higher than stated due to those who do not wish to participate in the data collection process.

We hope you better understand the difference between shipped vs sold as it pertains to retailers and platform holders. ""

As to your constant clinging to that "10m" you so badly want to be relevant. The XBO was not a 1:1 sales success during the first year. Putting 10m units into retailers did not equal 10m individual customers at the same time. Retailers only sold about 7m in its first year but retained an additional 3m units on hand. So both sets of numbers can be correct. MS can proudly say they SOLD IN 10m units (channel stuffed) and retailers can proudly say they SOLD THROUGH 7m units to customers."

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MS provided numbers till 10 mil., so, VGChartz should stick to that official 10 mil. After that VGChartz can blabbing about MS doesn't provide sold-in numbers anymore.

Now looks like you trying to twist what i've said before, Xbox fan. Xbox fans are doing that as usual. NEVER EVER said that Xbone sales were 1 :1 in first year. NEVER, Xbox fan. You twisted that. It wasn't even in launch period. Read again here, Xbox fan : Even if it is sold-in, Xbone numbers WERE NOT so off from sold through number back then. 1 mil. at most ( here i meant soldthrough - shipped ratio, if you didn't know). You fucking made up your 3 mil. numbers, Xbox fan. Xbone did still selling well till 2016 when it first time fell behind X360, Xbox fan. VGChartz numbers are estimaded, also XSeries sold through number still is approximately 1 :1 with sold-in number,, but XSS is selling a bit slower than XSX and XSX is hard to find. So, there is NO BIG difference for Xseries regarding sold-through/shipped. Deal with it! So, VGchartz numbers needs to beat official Xbone 10 mil. in 3 weeks. I will make fun of you in the next 3 weeks if Xseries doesn't reach at least 9.5 mil. units sold.

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GaboonViper41d ago

Great sales all round, console gaming is alive and kicking, gonna be a great gen for us gamers.

Saijahn41d ago

Both are impressive tech and soon enough will have games only doable on that tech or pc's. This gen is just getting started

darkrider41d ago

The ps5 sold another million in a month. That's faster then the last.

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marioJP8741d ago

Now imagine the sales if there were no shortages due to covid!!!

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