Here is an official posting by SONY of their worldwide PS3 sales as of the end of the 2nd quarter, fiscal year 2008.
With Gran Turismo 5,Heavy Rain,White Knight Chronicles,Killzone 2,and Uncharted 2 headlining Sony's 2009,it appears the Ps3 business will be a-ok in 2009. And of course,2010 awakens the beast of the action genre
So when can we expect Microsoft to release their numbers, do you think? With the higher price point, these are very good numbers the Sony has put up.
And remember the ps3 has not had its price cut.
are you sure the PS3 hasn't had any price cuts yet??
By the end of 2010 , we will move to the next generation on topic pretty good sales indeed and please $ony bring 8 days back
That's pretty damn good in the space of two years.
There has been no price cut for the PS3 this year. Even with the two price cut last year the PS3 is still twice as expensive as the x360 and 100 more than the launch price of the PS2.
As you can see in the report, Sony's Fiscal Year end in March 31. Didn't the fact that there was no PS3 in the market before Nov 2006 give you a clue? This includes PS3 sales all the way since October 2006 to the end of September 2008. Sony's Fiscal Year end in March 31. Just for the record, this is 1 million inflated compared to VgChartz, similar to what happens with Microsoft official numbers.
Aquanox, are you even trying to make a point? I've read over everyone's comments that you are replying to and I can't seem to figure out what exactly you're trying to prove! This chart shows lifetime sales of the PS3. From launch until September 30th 2008. The numbers put them at 16.84 millions worldwide units. Now from Q1 and Q2, the PS3 has seen a year over year increase of nearly 100% each quarter from 07 to 08. Now if we were being optimistic and said the same for Q3 of this year (Oct. Nov. and Dec) that would mean they would have sold 9.8 million for that quarter alone. Obviously, that most likely did NOT happen. But even saying there was NO increase puts them at 4.9 million in Q3, upping their total console sales to 21.74 million. Microsoft is claiming they will hit 25 million by years end. Which means that 5 to 6 million gap just shrunk to 3.26 Oh and when you copy your post into the open zone, make sure you don't copy it twice...
I think you just got your a** owned by pansenbaer. lol you only copy and paste once btw haha. And good analogy pansenbaer
He was responding to the original poster who mistakenly thought that the article hadn't counted the last 6 months of sales because it counts up to Q2. However Q2 to sony is up to septmeber. And Pansebar a big LOL at those made up figures. I think the ps3 will make 20 million by years end but the 360 will be miles over 25 and closer to 28 million. MS never said they would only sell 25 million it was just a random figure. However truth is we won't know until the companies release their next figures mid january but I'm sure the 360 will be at least 8 million ahead by then as the ps3's price and the world economy just isn't mixing.
to complain about. Selling that well at a base $400 price is pretty impressive. SONY took a calculated risk by not dropping the price for the holiday season and they can still see light at the end of the tunnel. We will see what their strategy is come this time next year.
So it is safe to say that they will hit 20 million by the end of December. That's pretty good considering the price point. Kudos Sony.
16.84 million not counting the last 2 Quarters is pretty good. By contrast VGChartz has the number at 17.88 million counting all quarters (so it's pretty obvious that that's wrong)
I would appreciate it if the people posting stories knew how to write in English. "Here is an official posting by SONY of there worlwide PS3 sales as of the end of the 2nd quarter fiscal year. " It is "their" not "there". I learned this in grade 3. "worlwide" is also a very nice word... "2nd quarter fiscal year" makes no sense. "Second quarter of this fiscal year" would work much better. Just a thought.
Shut up grammar nazi!! You understood it enough to correct it so it can't be that bad
great contribution!! *sarcasm* why don't you report it instead. your comment will be pointless when the issues are fixed. just a thought.
My only regret is passing grade 3.
U forgot to add god of war 3.
You don't know how to spell worldwide. The guy in the article spelled it right you spelled it wrong twice so stop being an idiot who tries to look smart. What matters is what they are saying not a bunch of grammar errors he could very well be from a non-english speaking country in which case he knows more languages than you so shut up
I am talking about this year.
heroicjanitor - Notice those things called quotation marks? Ya thats what that guy wrote...meaning HE'S the one that spelled worldwide wrong. But thanks for pointing out my flaw :) I guess I'm a better smart ass than you thought. Its my fault really. Ill provide full citations next time.
i want to see the official sales for the 360.. it would be great if some one can find that.
last we heard from microsoft it was 22 million wasnt it? but comparing both ps3 and 360 in the same time frame, ps3 is pummeling it! hell it aint even that far off the ps2 in the same time period. good numbers for sony but sales dont mean anything to us, i dont care how much it sells cause for me ps3 is just awesome. i love the thing!
REALLY? Ps3 is pummeling the 360??? You must mean tumbling. PS3 is no where near the PS2s success in the same time period. Ps2 had almost 50 million after just over 2 year. 17 million is bananas. Ps3 should have 50 million. Original Xbox had 13.7 Million sold in that time frame. GOOD for SONY, they are just slightly better than the original xbox in sales in the relative same time frame.
Since you know the PS2 numbers within the same timeframe, care to share them? It is doing better than the 360 within the same time frame. It isnt pummeling it but it is beating it. But I will be waiting for the numbers from the first 8 quarters for the ps2.
I couldn't let this one slide. lol 50 million PS2's were not sold in the first two years of it's life cycle. That is the biggest lie I have heard on N4G in a long time. lol The PS2 was roughly at 24 million sold around the last month of it's initial two years out. The PS2 was release in March of 2000 and as of March of 2002 the PS2 had shipped 28 million and sold reportedly 24 million. http://vgchartz.com/worldco... The PS3 at the end of this year will be around 20 million and had far more factors working against it. The PS2 released at 299, the PS3 at 599. The PS3 had the Xbox 360 and the Wii to compete against and the 360 had already been out for a year and had a good library already established. The PS2 had the DC and the GC to fight against and we all know how that ended. Sorry, but utter lies like you are spreading are making you look pretty stupid bud. Try being less of a liar and gain some respect here.
Based on the trend showing from same quarter 2007 to 2008 they should sell approx. 9 - 9.5 million more units by the end of their fiscal year. Lowballing it at 9 mil would give the PS3 an installed base of 25.84 million units by the end of March 2009. Not too damned shabby at all.
Considering 99% of the internet has been trying to bring SONY and the PS3 down :-/ HA!!! HA!!! xBot Zombie Cavemen Lemmings on this!!! YOU LOT FAILED!!! ;-D
Need to learn a bit about Companie's Fiscal Years. As you can see in the report, Sony's Fiscal Year end in March 31. Didn't the fact that there was no PS3 in the market before Nov 2006 give you a clue? This includes PS3 sales all the way since October 2006 to September 2007. As you can see in the report, Sony's Fiscal Year end in March 31. Didn't the fact that there was no PS3 in the market before Nov 2006 give you a clue? This includes PS3 sales all the way since October 2006 to the end of September 2008. Just for the record, this is 1 million inflated compared to VgChartz, similar to what happens with Microsoft official numbers.
the interent will never bring anything like Sony down you know more then i Sony is good at what they do 25million install base in 2.5 years is very impressive when you consider they had to go up against 2 other game systems! oh wait this is open zone the 1st xbox took over 4 years to get 25million units sold!
What are you guys talking about. Sony themselves say 16.8 million by the end of September 2008 and somehow people is talking about 25 million by early 2009. I don't know how is this going to happen with this trend. By the way, according to VgChart, Microsoft has just surpassed PS3 sales Worldwide Year to Date. PS3: 6.9M Xbox 360: 7.0M And that's barely including the first week of December! http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps...
VG is crap. Even when they said the PS3 was leading this year i still don't believe them. They can never be trusted.
As crappy as VG Chartz is, you're numbers are off from what I get. If you go to Chartz > Hardware Table > then select PS3 > 1st week ending: 05 Jan 08 and last week: 06 Dec 08 > you get 9,023,048 If you do the same with the 360, you get 8,990,077 A whopping difference of 32k! Like I said, everyone knows this site is crap, and these discrepancies prove it.
Doesn't Matter. For me the Ps3: Best purchase ever made.
They're actually pretty good. The PS3 official first quarter was Quarter 3 of 2006, in which for the year they sold 3.6 million unit.s In 2007, they sold a total of 9.2 million units. In 2008, before the actual 2 year anniversary, they've sold so far 3.99(just about 4) million units. That means since Q3 of 06, they've sold about 16.6 Million, just under 17 million. When we get the data for the 3rd quarter, we'll see officially how much they've sold in 2 years. Judging by the pattern, each year they've sold around double the units per quarter. With Q3 being the biggest quarter for them in 2007, it's not far fetched to assume that they'll have more than their previous 4.9 million unit sales data. Would it be double that? Perhaps, but even if its stagnant at the 4.9 million yet again, that would mean for 2008 after Q3, over 20 million PS3s have been sold in its 2 years. When averaged out, it really isnt bad no matter what many would like to imply, given the factors against it. (Price, earlier hesitation to blu-ray adoption, HD-TV, etc.)
Dammit Frink, what did I tell you before about using logic and common sense and being unbiased around here?!?! ;-)
Hah, I know, Logic is uncommon around these parts. Still, It was an interesting enough data sheet for me to comment and answer a question :P
He can't help it Onslaught. :D Logic follows him everywhere.
Thank you for the breakdown Wild. Here's a bubble.
The ps3 counts as a blu-ray player also. So not only gamers are buying the system. That might be the reason why software sales are low.
If software sales on the PS3 are so low, how come publishers make more money on the PS3?
its because they are not makin more money on the ps3
Q3 last year was their big price cut that really got the ps3 to start selling. That's why every quarter this year has been double that of the last. This years black friday numbers were lower than last years. Will the entire month of november be lower than last year since there is no price cut this year? Maybe. NPD is only 2 hours away which will show us the trend in US sales at least. I'd say same price Q3 this year as last year, with Nintendo Wii and 360 gaining momentum due to increased demand/price cut, plus the economic crisis, the ps3 is unlikely to even match last years Q3numbers. I'd bet for around 4 million Q3.
judging form VGChartz ??
"6 - Then tell me this Q3 last year was their big price cut that really got the ps3 to start selling. That's why every quarter this year has been double that of the last. This years black friday numbers were lower than last years. Will the entire month of november be lower than last year since there is no price cut this year? Maybe. NPD is only 2 hours away which will show us the trend in US sales at least." Well the problem with your comment is that you are assuming that November equates to one quarter, when in fact, it does not. If a Quarter equaled to one month, we'd have 12 quarters.
So if sales fall in november, that means that Sony are on course to double last years result in Q3? Yeah, that's some nice logic. Just saying what I'm thinking. Sales fall yoy in november, sales are likely to fall yoy in december. That's why I wrote (In the part you conveniently didn't quote) "The ps3 is unlikely to match last year" and "I'd BET for around 4 million Q3". Nothing I stated was fact. Just pointed out what you forgot to mention in your little forecast there.
This is officially from the Sony website. VG Chartz has never been and will never be a credible source. Bzzz! Try again.
And the numbers I was referring to aren't vgchartz numbers, they are estimates based on the companies press releases after Black Friday. All of these estimates have the ps3 around 10% lower than last years Black friday. I could look for them and post links here, but since official NPD numbers are coming in 1.5 hours, I'll just post last years result and we can compare the official numbers then: PS3: 466.000
I never once said that it would definately occur that it would double. I said it was a possibility seeing as how they've had increased sales YoY for the months leading up to November, and once again, you're ignoring one major important fact. NOVEMBER =/= 1 QUARTER. Seriously. Sony not having the same sales for November as they had last year does not necessarily mean that their Q3 would be lower because it's made up of multiple months. I didn't quote your last paragraph because albeit I didn't necessarily agree with it, it was your opinion so I let it go. However, the notion of you claiming November as the end all, be all for a quarter's product sale by the way you're constantly pointing out that it was lower than last year was false and so I commented on that. See what I did? Your opinion, I respect. You trying to push something as fact when it is not, I'll pick apart. It's what I'd expect of anyone having a discussion. Once again, this is what I'm trying to portray. Thus far, for each quarter, they've almost doubled (in one quarter its doubled, in another its slightly less than doubled, so I used the word ALMOST). Seeing as how sales have been relatively good compared to last year each month even in other territories, It's safe to assume that they would either be on par with last years Quarter 3, maybe even surpass it. Granted, November may have been lower this year, than last, but the months leading to it yielded opposite results, and depending on the numbers between the two, it's not fair to base everything on that one month.
how do you know this years black friday was lower than last years?
I haven't stated any facts. I just thought it was foolish to even think that Q3 would be double from last year when november last year saw a price cut and this year there hasn't been one, plus economic crisis. " Granted, November may have been lower this year, than last, but the months leading to it yielded opposite results, and depending on the numbers between the two, it's not fair to base everything on that one month." Well, I know that a quarter is made up of 3 months and that for Sony Q3, October-December, the typical sales breakdown would be October: 15% of sales, November: 30% of sales, December: 55% of sales (Approximately). So, November + December equals around 85 % of Q3 sales. You keep saying that I don't know what a quarter is, and yet you write "November may have been lower this year, than last, but the months leading to it". What MONTHS leading to November are you talking about? October + ????... September? You do know that a quarter is made up of 3 months and not 4 right? Otherwise a year would have 3 quarters. Ok, so we agree. I say Q3 2008 is probably slightly worse than Q3 2007 for Sony, you think there is a slight possibility for double sales. Let's see who comes closer.
So be it. We both agree to disagree. Change your perception on what I think will occur however. You say Q3 of 08 will be slightly worse than 07. I think it will be slightly above it. My perception of it being double is on the basis of "anything can happen", but I'm more sure regarding it being above last years. We'll see when the data comes out in a few months time hopefully.
I think assuming, Sony can sell more units over the Q3 then they did last year is a bit optimistic given the fact that the economy is down and price will play a bigger role this year, plus the observation, that the Black Friday results are stagnant. However, I believe holding last years level is already an achievement. If they really manage to hold the 4-5M unis over these 3 month, that's quite something and pushes the overall sales above 20M. Maybe a bit slow, but hardly a failure. Also, I'd like to add, that even the Q4 last fy had strong sales. With a possible lower price and KZ2 on the horizon, I am guessing, that the early Q1/2009 (Q4) will be very interesting to watch.
yea, if it wasnt for the blu ray player the ps3 would be finished.. good call sony
Thats a loaded statement. Incidentally, if it wasn't for blu-ray, would the PS3 be priced as high as it was from the get go? If it didnt have blu-ray and used something like HD-DVD, or standard DVDs again, wouldnt it be selling even more than it is now at a fraction of its current price?
No, if it weren't for the blu-ray player, the PS3 would have entered the market priced $300 cheaper than it did and made a quicker grab at overall market share.
Those are some decent numbers no matter how you look at it. With 2 quarters still to be posted for this fiscal year it's not unreasonable to think it'll be heading towards the 20m mark for sales.
who the hell lied to you about more money is made on the ps3 when it comes to games sales? it's not to hard to figure out. if a games like gta4 sells 10 million and 7 of it is on the 360 how did sony make more money for r*? im sure their might be 1 maybe 2 companies that made more money on the ps3 but the majority is made on the 360.. where do you ppl get your info from, seriously..
Not to knock your information, but where was the link to that? I'd like to have it for future knowledge.
Both EA and Ubisoft (You know, number 1 and 3 in terms of worldwide game publishers) recently released numbers showing they made more money on the PS3 than other platforms. If you do a little search of this website you'd find it.
I admit my choice of words wasn't the best, so let me rectify: SOME publishers had more revenue on the PS3 this year. Specifically EA and Ubisoft. Now if you want to deny that fact, well... whatever floats your boat.
lots of developers make the same amount of moeny on both and some make more on ps3, thanks to europe. some people just see NPD and they think its the whole world.
he got it from official numbers, where are you getting your GTA IV numbers from? im sure it was half each on both consoles worldwide.
or official finance figures of said companies? Umm tough choice.
Because it means the Playstation 3 sales will only improve going into the future. Think of it like this... Sequels like Resistance 2 has struggled selling because the majority sales % was made up from early Playstation 3 adopters who played the first Resistance. With titles like Uncharted 2 and Ratchet 2 coming next year, adopters who havent yet played the first will, contributing to sales numbers. This also excludes titles that have the same or larger fanbases as Metal Gear Solid (Which was without a doubt Sony's biggest game launch this year (exclusive)), that will be launching in 2009, possibly early 2010, such as Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo and God of War.. But most importantly, these numbers were made WITHOUT a major price cut... The future is awfully bright for Sony if you ask me...
http://www.videogamer.com/x... seriously, you sony fantics need to take off those cool sony shades. i had a better link for the over all as in all games but couldnt find it. what do you ppl do on n4g? just igore all the facts and make up your own? you should subscribe to gi, gamepro, play etc they all say the same. hell, it's even obvious in the npd that comes out every month. ############################# ######################## maybe ubi but not ea ill be back with that link minister... http://kotaku.com/5030788/p... nope, i was wrong ea did make more money on the ps3 from what these ppl say, i though i read a statement like last month that ea said other wise but couldnt find it. dah well.. @wild arms bro, just google it.. sheesh you ppl are so out dated with the 411
Ok...you gave me a link to the first day sales of GTA4 between each platform and that was known (given the difference in install base) that the 360 version outsold the PS3 version, but that doesnt tell me anything about how the 360 version sold 7 million of the total 10 million like you stated : "it's not to hard to figure out. if a games like gta4 sells 10 million and 7 of it is on the 360 how did sony make more money for r*? im sure their might be 1 maybe 2 companies that made more money on the ps3 but the majority is made on the 360.."
Here you go. EA sales figure for FY08. http://arstechnica.com/news... Also, the link you provided only show sales of first day as Wild mentioned above, and it's a 55:45 ratio not 70:30 ratio as you stated. Edit: Seems like you have found it before I did. It's okay Air1, people make mistakes. But if you do consider yourself a gamer, you need to take the biased glasses off and enjoy games on all platform. This generation of gaming is just getting better and better.