When it was revealed, Aaron was pretty hard on the Switch OLED. He even told himself there was no point in getting one. He's here to say that he was wrong.
Vita launched at $249.99 and had an OLED screen in 2011. The Switch could and should have launched with one in 2017 and at the same price.
the internals of the Switch blow the Vita out of the water though. Why should it be the same price? That's like saying the PS5 shouldn't be more expensive than the PS4 because of the time added when it comes to decreasing tech prices.
You do realize in the 6 years between them tech changed, right? The cost to make them is likely close to identical at the time of their respective releases. Switch was built with left over phone parts.
@Magog - perhaps, but tech prices always go down. That's like saying that when the PS5 specs are determined 2 years in advance the prices for said parts have decreased. That doesn't mean that the company adjusts their prices based on current tech prices.
It must be hard being such fanboy. You said: "That's like saying that when the PS5 specs are determined 2 years in advance the prices for said parts have decreased." In the case of the Switch, yes. They put a already available tech 2 years old, Tegra X1 launched in 2015. Also, no, Nintendo didn't change a single thing in the Soc design (Remember the first switch model that was easily hackable?)
Please... The switch was outdated before launch. Everything was old. Nvidia already had better tech and they went with old and much cheaper parts. Nintendo is doing a lot of money on every switch sold from day one. No other company was able to do that.
The Switch launched almost 6 years after the Vita. That's like saying the Series X blows the launch PS4 out of the water.
The thing is Sony didn't held back in terms of specs with Vita but Nintendo did with Switch. They can easily sell it at $250 and with drift prone Joy Con cheap build on Switch itself and Dock I'm starts to wonder how much cost cutting they made in order to get the profit margin they want?
Switch was build with ancient tech sitting in a warehouse because no one else wanted it. It was built with the cheapest materials. When the Switch launched, the phones released that year blew the switch out of the water.
So that still does not defend Nintendo from not having the OLED as part of the original 2017 model. If hardware in 2011 was able to do it, why couldnt 2017 hardware?
@Neonridr "perhaps, but tech prices always go down. That's like saying that when the PS5 specs are determined 2 years in advance the prices for said parts have decreased. That doesn't mean that the company adjusts their prices based on current tech prices." This is perhaps the least intelligent thing I've read in a while. They absolutely do try to drive the price down up until launch. That's why we never know the prices until they start manufacturing. I mean you can't seriously believe what you wrote can you?
Are you really trying to justify Nintendo's lazy attempt at upgrading the Switch? I get why they aren't going all in on a next generation Switch right now but let's no act like Nintendo is doing something that most people want by just upgrading their screen. I bet that if you asked most Nintendo fans what would they rather have a better screen or a Switch pro or whatever they end up calling it they rather have new hardware.
Neo Please stop defending Nintendo they always use the least expensive specs to make the most amount of profits. That's why we are happy there are Microsoft and a Sony in console gaming to move their tech forward if it was up to Nintendo we would still be stuck with switch level specs The day they sold a cardboard box for $60 and media/Fanboys praised them was the day I knew they can get away with anything. I mean selling a cardboard box was called innovation Their consoles rarely go down in price their software rarely go on sale so they only care about making profits and as much as possible and yes every company is in the business of making profit but not everybody goes about it the same way While Xbox and Playstation get a lot of hate Nintendo gets a free pass for pretty much everything. They have the most loyal fanboys in any industry
Nvidia is a b.
The vita oled had some defect.
Every OLED ever can potentially get burn in even 10 years on. It weren't exclusive to the Vita lol
OLED was incredibly rare in 2011 the quality of OLED and LCD jumped significantly between 2011 and 2016. Also even Sony didn't keep up the vita OLED panel removing it in the first revision of the system. Now I love my vita OLED model I use it frequently still with possibly one of the better hombebrew communities to this day I use it for work commutes and the like regularly still. I thought it was weird the switch launched with a traditional LCD but to give them credit in 2016 a OLED phone was not a thing it was until the galaxy s8 and Samsung bringing ooed back to the mobile device space in 2018 where OLED became a common place in phones. I'd say this revision was to keep pace with the mobile market and they are not really competing against the vita anymore.
The Switch is a hybrid portable/home console that shipped with a docking station, a high performance gaming tablet, and two detachable controllers with HD rumble, motion controls and being able to split them individually for 2 player games… You’re not too bright if you think that should cost the same as a Vita, a one dimensional, single use/purpose system. I’m not saying the Vita isn’t great, I absolutely adore my blue Vita 2000 and I love playing PSP games on there, most notably Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker and some other fantastic Vita software. But come on, can you math? They’re not equal in value, far from it and it would have cost more to implement an OLED at launch.
Honestly I myself I am happy with my current Switch I never use it in hand held mode mainly docked for the tv. As long as it continues to play games like Metroid Dread then I don't care. Only time I will upgrade my current Switch is if it decided to die or when Nintendo announces the successor to the Switch meaning their next gen system.
Honestly I was too scared using my Switch on the go it was quite awkward to use since the Joy Con are so tiny and flat my hands are constantly searching and fighting for grip that isn't there. When I still own one 95% of the time its in Docked mode.
I own Metroid Dread but started over as soon as the emulator version hit. It's beautiful in 4k. Sad Nintendo didn't release the rumored pro switch with 4k. I can't go back to 1080p metroid now.
As a huge fan of the vita. Great screen. Games looked hd even for a 540p panel.
Thsts great and all but when is Nintendo going to release a hardware revision that actually benefits gamers like me who strictly play in docked mode? First they release an updated model that improved battery life, then they released the smaller, cheaper Switch Lite, then they released the Switch OLED with a bigger, better screen and better kickstand. 3 revisions, all of which are to the sole benefit of the hanheld gamer.
Who would play the Switch on a TV though? The television is meant for bigger consoles.
That's a silly question. I could turn that around and ask, who would play video games on a 7" screen when they can play them on a 65" screen? The Switch is a HYBRID console, it's not strictly a handheld. So for you to even ask that question is ridiculous.
we played the Wii on a TV, so what's your point?
@Neonridr My point is Nintendo sucks at hardware LOL. And no I never owned a Wii. I never bought into that weak, gimmicky POS. Played my nephew's a couple of times. That was enough. He had Wii Sports and Zelda. Motion controls were cool for about 5 minutes. After that I never wanted to play games that way again. So unless you have a mouse in your pocket, I don't know of this "we" that you speak of.
You're right. My circle of friends should be forced to stare at the tiny ass Switch sitting on the counter when we get together and play Smash Bros.
Because I like playing on Tv or at home. There reason a Switch is a hybrid console for a reason.
Suit yourself but I just can't play that way. The small screen kills my eyes after a while and playing Switch in handheld form is not the most comfortable. My right thumb really cramps up after a while playing that way. In 2017 when Switch launched, I thought it was a cool little machine and the handheld/home console hybrid design was genius! However for me, the hardware has aged rather quickly and now in 2021 we are playing next gen consoles on 4K TV's where features like 4K resolution, 60fps, ray tracing, are becoming the norm. It's very hard to go back to playing 720p games with terrible aliasing and low frames. Im not expecting a Switch revision on the level of PS5 but damn give us SOMETHING! Release an updated dock that at least gets us to something like dynamic 1440p/60fps. Hell i dont even have to have ray tracing but get us a LITTLE closer to modern day standards. Even something at Xbox Series S level would be a huge help!
I think the answer to your question is that the Switch being handheld is the most critical part of its sales success. It's biggest appeal is the fact you can play "console games" on the go. I'm like you, I mainly play Switch docked, so I was hoping to see a Switch Pro with upgraded spec and 4K output, but sadly it's not to be. Nintendo will most likely release a new console before that happens.
Remember, the GameCube was Nintendo's last core gaming console that wasnt centered around gimmicks like the Wii. Handheld has always been Nintendo's saving grace since the Gameboy so it is more comfortable for Nintendo to focus on handheld stuff and ignore console specific stuff.
I was just making a point that I use my 50" 4K television for my Playstation consoles and I use my Switch Lite for small screen gaming. I'm not really interested in Nintendo games so I have my Switch for visual novels and big triple A titles that are graphically intensive like Doom Eternal, Dying Light, Resident Evil, Crysis, BioShock and stuff like that. I just like seeing how far they can push the outdated tech. Alot of the games I own on PS4 as well but there's just something really amazing about laying in bed and playing them on a smaller screen. I have the Lite but I'm getting the OLED soon for an even better screen.
I was really disappointed when the Switch didn't launch with an external GPU dock. I'm extremely disappointed that they *still* haven't released one yet.
The original Switch is the only one worth while. Bought mine on sale for $249.
Pretty tired dog journalist praising features on the switch that was in the handheld space since 2011. And still not calling out the fact it’s not complete in those features but they are gushing over being drip dropped at high prices where people literally complained a greater part of 5 years about. The switch has literally moved handheld gaming 1 step forward but 5 steps back. No ability to gain mobile data. No cross chat. No proper Bluetooth. No front or back camera. Piss poor app catalog. Piss poor touch implementation. All features that were available in 2011 and the switch didn’t have an OLED until this month. Nintendo caught a massive W over the consumer with this system and unfortunately they even got me I got a lite and base model. Neither of which I use and thankfully my boys play lord all stars enough for me not to sell the device.
bluetooth works fine now.
I want one because I have been on handheld more but my issue is more of a fear that a next gen one is around the corner. I don’t believe Nintendo when they said there isn’t a 4K Switch in the works, it may not be a Switch but it’s a something.
I’ve said it since the beginning for switch. Nintendo is using their mobile model on the system. Take it that switch is game boy, lite is pocket, oled is the color. Soon the advance will come and then the SP. And they are going to artificially inflate their numbers because of this all while essentially selling the same device with minor tweaks. And, we will have to endure a non progressive handheld market because gamers chose Nintendo for the mobile representation. It’s a shame how Nintendo has been able to coast the lines and get away with this. All due to nostalgia at the end of the day.
lol hard pass I enjoyed my switch a great deal. At this point though, its a dust collector and sitting there waiting for BOTW2. After that I'll probably sell it.
What about all the great visual novels on it? Also great games like Crysis and Dying Light as well.
Some people doesn't care about visual novels.
Why the fuck would I play Crysis on switch when I have a asus tuf 3080 ti? And visual novels lol no.
I definitely plan on getting the OLED before year's end because I only play in handheld and it's where I play all my games. Cyberpunk 2077 is all I've been playing on my base PS4 since the Spring and it's been really fun.
I was wrong about the OUYA...
I’m sure the screen looks nice but it’s not worth the cost of entry .
depends on if you already own one or not I think. Ultimately they should have just dropped the OG model and priced this one as the same and only made this moving forward.
but later he got paid and it changed everything
Things change once the direct deposit hits your account.
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't pay for his Switch OLED either. Of course, I'd have to either click the link or watch the vid to find that out, and I don't want to do either.
Who is this person? And why does him being “wrong” matter to anyone? People will buy what they like or save money to own. There is no right or wrong, it’s always personal choice.
Its less about choice/opinion and more about Nintendo's anti consumer actions. In 2011 the Vita released with an OLED screen. So why couldn't the 2017 Switch model have it?
I traded my regular switch in Canada for the Oled and they had a deal on for $160 difference.....completely worth it and the screen blows the original away. If you get the chance to grab one you won't be disappointed
What’s the point if you always play docked?
If you don't spend a lot of time in handheld mode, i don't see why you would upgrade. While i rarely play my Switch, when i do it is only on a TV, upscaled with an mClassic. The OLED model would be useless to me. While I don't game on PC these days, if I did, I'd just emulate all my Switch games so i could play at good resolutions. Unfortunately my old crappy laptop won't play at better resolutions than the Switch already does, so there's no point.
Still as powerful as a PS3 but now with an OLED! Welcome to 2021! I'll happily keep my Gen 1 Switch KTYVM!
I doubt the PS3 could run Dying Light or Doom Eternal as well as the Switch, lol
Same story re-written a hundred time. Its fun for people like this to have something during a shortage just to piss people off, then once its readily available to the masses, then its lost its luster and they wait for the next big thing, a 4K Nintendo console....... Thats why theres no real credibility to stuff like this.....
LOL thought i was NAF from cs go when i saw the picture :D
Enjoying my Switch OLED & Metroid Dread
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