UPDATE: Pre-order Horizon Forbidden West now: Collector’s and Digital Deluxe Editions detailed

PS Blog: "Thursday was to be a celebration of Horizon Forbidden West and the amazing team at Guerrilla working to deliver it on February 18, 2022. However, it’s abundantly clear that the offerings we confirmed in our pre-order kickoff missed the mark.

Last year we made a commitment to deliver free upgrades for our cross-gen launch titles, which included Horizon Forbidden West. While the pandemic’s profound impact pushed Forbidden West out of the launch window we initially envisioned, we will stand by our offer: Players who purchase Horizon Forbidden West on PlayStation 4 will be able to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version for free."

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thorstein85d ago

Well, that didn't take long. Nice job sticking to your word.

LucasRuinedChildhood85d ago (Edited 85d ago )

It's good that we know that there will be a simple €10/$10 upgrade fee for their other cross gen games going forward (GOW2, GT7).

What I don't fully understand is this: "Players who purchase Horizon Forbidden West on PlayStation 4 will be able to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version for free."

There's officially a €10 difference in the price between the PS4 and PS5 versions, so ... can we all just buy the PS4 version, get a free upgrade and save a tenner?

thorstein85d ago

I assume (so I could and probably am wrong) that goes for digital only.

VersusDMC85d ago

That sounds like that's what they will have to do. They already had the ps4 version for preorder at 60. They can't expect there to not be another backlash if they increase it to 70.

Gaming4Life198185d ago

I think you have to actually buy the game on ps4 for it to work. I recently sold my ps4 pro cause I didn't use it and I think if I bought the ps4 version on ps5, the free upgrade will not work.

arkard85d ago

Yes, you can buy the ps4 version, stick it in your Ps5 and it will play. You might have to check the data install. And make sure you re playing the Ps5 version and not the ps4 but you will get the Ps5 version.

Hatchetforce84d ago

If Jim Ryan hadn't made the remark months ago Sony wouldn't have reversed and I don't think they should. And you can bet it won't happen again. People want all the whizz bang games and upgrades and think they should be free. As for this generation stuff that is getting ready to change. Sony has quietly been making it clear the show on Thursday is PS5. While some cross gen games are gonna be included theyre looking ahead at a no PS4 world. They are starting to move in a certain direction because supplies of PS5s are starting to increase an the new model which uses less copper making it less resource intensive is another step.

EvertonFC84d ago

I guess? A bit odd that 🙄

gravedigger84d ago


Copper has nothing to do with production increase. They already mentioned production increase before heatsink design. It is normal through console lifespan to do a revision where they can. Original heatsink was an overkill in design. This one smaller is more effective

Zjet84d ago

of course you can, always find it amusing how American pricing is so strict though, in my country PS5 games regularly sell for $40-$50 USD instead (and we have tax included because we aren't psychos)

for me I still buy the PS5 version regardless as I want it for media preservation.

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CS785d ago

Kudos for the change. Good job Sony.

This is why we should voice our concerns and not blindly agree to everything.

(Let’s hope the nickle and dime decision makers who made the first call aren’t making other similar decisions)

Aussiesummer85d ago

Well we are agreeing to it for future titles, we've agreed to there about "we believe in generations" crap too.

gamer780484d ago

They are that’s why all other games will cost 10$ to upgrade.

CaptainHenry91685d ago

When the Sony fans and install base speak up they'll listen.

SullysCigar84d ago

Refreshing isn't it? If you don't take their crap, they won't give it. Sony fans won't take this kind of nonsense!

DaCajun84d ago

First I didn't down vote you and I would love to agree with you but I don't unfortunately. All I've seen the past few days were sony fanboys defending the previous price decision and chastising anyone who did not support Sony's decision.

Thinking it might have been the xbot trolls that inadvertently helped out us on the Sony side even though they probably didn't mean to when they were just trying to jump on anything Sony negative, lol.

itsmebryan84d ago

Did you miss all the people defending Sony for charging extra for an upgrade they said would be free?

IRetrouk84d ago

Funny that, cause on twitter I seen plenty of sony fans calling them out, any of you want links?

CaptainHenry91684d ago


Fair enough. BTW I don't care about upvotes or downvotes

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Aussiesummer85d ago

It's a piss poor job actually, having to be forced to change your greed because of a backlash from disgusted customers.

badz14984d ago'd prefer they remain as scumbag and thickheaded like Nintendo?

IRetrouk84d ago (Edited 84d ago )

Yet when MS done it, your response was much different.... and only warranted one comment in the whole thread, and it wasn't even to do with the actual reversal.....can't think of why that would be🤔...🤦‍♂️

darthv7285d ago

Feels kind of weird seeing sony being the one to do 180 on things with new platform. Last gen it was MS doing all the backtracking 180 stuff when xbo released.

crazyCoconuts84d ago

MS backtracked on their Gold pricing change beginning of the year. Good to see both companies being responsive to feedback. It's a sign they're concerned about competition.

Chevalier84d ago

Yeah Sony is as quick to respond as you were to forget that whole Xbox Gold doubling price right?! 😆 🤣

porkChop84d ago

That's fantastic news. It's still shitty that they tried it in the first place, but at least they've listened.

gamer780484d ago

First step accomplished, next step getting rid of the 10$ up charge to goto the os5 version on other games

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Silly gameAr85d ago

Let's see if this gets as much attention as the "anti consumer" version did.

But, I am glad Sony listened and acted.

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derek85d ago

Sorry Elemental but your wrong. You know what's worse then this latest nontroversy it's people like you with your phony outrage. I venture to say that the majority of the most vocal clowns hyperventilating over this issue didn't give a crap about horizon or playstation. Elemental let's be real most of the people b**ching and moaning were the same xbox freaks who try this with every bit of even slightly negative Sony news. I to didn't think it was a big deal as I own a ps5, but thought since they made the commitment they shouldn't go back on their word.

Gamer7585d ago (Edited 85d ago )

And it's people like you who let companies get away with ripping off their fanbase because you think that the bad things that they do isn't a big deal

Tacoboto84d ago

Xbox freaks bitching about Sony choices saved PS4 players up to $70 repurchasing a game they already bought.

If you're gonna be that much of a twat at least have the courage to not self-censor your own fowl mouth with what else you spew out.

derek84d ago

Gamer75 if you think this a big deal, than you obviously must live a very charmed existence. It's not a big deal at all.

derek84d ago

Grow up Taco, don't waste your time talking tough with me. Lol. Saved ps4 gamers 70$? You must consider yourself a hero. Lol

KillBill84d ago

So you are claiming that it was the "xbox freaks" that forced Sony to change their marketing on this game? lol

Gamer7584d ago (Edited 84d ago )

Yeah such a charmed existence that I work 16 hrs a day 7 days a week despite the pandemic

derek84d ago

Gamer75 then you should certainly agree that none of this is objectively important or worth getting worked up over.

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SonyPS36084d ago (Edited 84d ago )

You think they deserve praise for NOT being pricks?

Actually that isn't even correct. They tried to be pricks but realised they couldn't get away with it.

I will never understand the simple-mindedness of brand loyalty. It's like you people WANT to be suckered out of your money.

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Gazondaily85d ago

Lol Sony this gen is like Xbox last gen. This is a good u-turn. Well done true gamers for speaking out and not defending this nonsense.

generic-user-name85d ago

They've already released 3 quality PS5-only titles, so they are nothing like Xbox last gen with that alone.

Don't forget Xbox kept F2P titles behind a paywall for the whole generation, under Phil's watch, only recently fixing that, but media were very VERY quiet about it and Phil is continually portrayed as a white knight.

Aloymetal85d ago

Some fanatics hate the facts, look at your downvotes. And yeah, how dare you to mention lord Phil aka ''The Messiah''...

Darkborn85d ago

Phil has been with Xbox for years before he became head and he was a top honcho for a while. He was involved in a lot of the Xbox one fiasco, sure he didn't do all of it himself, but he still agreed to a lot of it. He's only recently trying to look good to make Xbox look good.

Aloymetal85d ago

Exactly!. Some always seem to forget (on purpose) that Phil Spencer was GM of Microsoft Game Studios starting in 2008, became the VP in 2009. He was in charge of their games.

Petebloodyonion85d ago

Quick question how many threads in N4g or Xbox support group, reddit started by Xbox user mad about not being able to play Free to play games that you even get on mobile?
How many ppl ripped their shirts about the need to pay 20$ for the physical Fortnite disc that you still need to download half the game from the Internet and play online?
Man do you see thousand of ppl screaming at Sony because they removed the browser from PlayStation?
The same applied to Netflix Does it suck that it was behind a paywall? of course It does and it's stupid but did someone really complained when TV, phones, tablets, Blu-ray, Apple Tv, etc are bundled with Netflix?

Now again let's be clear I still found this a stupid move from MS just like it's stupid move from Sony to have Cloud saving behind a paywall but it's far major issue that makes ppl go on a uproar a company website.

Now if you want to talk about the why do we need to pay for online gaming in 2021 when MS and Sony don't provide server to publishers, makes tons of money from Microtransaction and digitals store etc.
Then yes Now you do have a case (that I will gladly defend with you).

mike32UK84d ago

Never owned an XBox, had every single playstation at launch including PSP, Vita and VR. What they were planning prior to this u turn was pure money grabbing and I didn't support it whatsoever. This was likely Jim Ryan's doing, he really needs taking down a peg or two

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LucasRuinedChildhood85d ago (Edited 85d ago )

They have made some big anti-consumer mistakes (attempting to shut down the PS3 PS Store was another one), but on the other hand, they are pumping out great games just like on the PS4 which didn't happen on the XB1, so it's a bit different.

MS have made less mistakes, but they did have to reverse a crazy plan to try charge $120 for XBL Live Gold (they're going to try increase prices again at some stage).

What people should learn is that if we voice our complaints both Sony and MS will often cave and do better for the consumer. Fanboys don't need to make excuses.

4U2NV84d ago

MS has made less mistakes?...🤣🤣 🤣

Needing Gold for services such as netflix etc
Kinect - that was just a mistake altogether which leads to the next point-
Removing Kinect LOL
Tv Sports Tv Sports
Weaker console - higher price.
Releasing a next gen console with no games for it.
Oh man the list of MS mistakes made I could go on and on LMAO

LucasRuinedChildhood84d ago


I was only talking about mistakes (anti-consumer moves) so far this generation because the OP compared this gen to last gen.

Flakegriffin85d ago

Except Xbox never “listened” to their fans last generation and didn’t start “listening” until recently.

derek85d ago

Sorry Flake but Microsoft are listening and have been listening. There fanbase refused to pay for their crummy games last gen so now Microsoft is giving them away for free this gen. Lol

Petebloodyonion85d ago

MS never listended last gen?
Lets see
Remove DRM when it wasn't possible
Remove Kinect when it wasn't possible
Started to focus on gaming division instead everything except gaming
Started to really care about PC player (that's me)
Brought backward compatibility when it wasn't possible
Bought several studios.

Now If MS underperformed last gen is basically because they made one the worst launch in history and believed that consumers thrust was won. A fun fact that this gen it's all about Xbox has no games when Sony sold PS4 with barely real exclusives except remasters but Sony was pro consumers while MS was bashed for several crappy move.

Now good news is that Sony is quick to turn around and fix this and do have a great track record and console.
But never forget thrust is won 1 single drop at the time while you can lost the whole jar in a flash.

derek85d ago

@gazondaily yeah like xbox last gen accept with a system people actually want with games people will pay for. Lol

JustTheFax84d ago

You should take your own advice and "grow up" Lol

Outside_ofthe_Box85d ago

Yet you spent all of last gen defending MS lol

Aussiesummer85d ago

We're defending it though....for future games, also defending g the bullshit statement that was "we believe in generations"

IRetrouk84d ago (Edited 84d ago )

How was it bullshit? Did sony release cross gen and next gen only games? Yes,
Is that two generations they are supporting? Yes.
Wheres the bullshit?

dbcoops85d ago

What U-turn? Sony didn't get the chance to even clarify the upgrade option before IGN jumped to assumptions so they could write their little hate article. This is a classic case of someone else creating a problem that never existed so they can advertise for xbox, gain click revenue and rile up the usual's in the process.

IRetrouk84d ago

To be fair sony did state there was no upgrade option at all for standard and special editions, to get access to both version's you had to buy one of the more expensive editions like ea etc are doing with their games now, they were clear, people didn't like it, complained and sony listened.

anast84d ago (Edited 84d ago )

Nice. I like your style.

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isarai85d ago

Demand better, get better

Aussiesummer85d ago

They slipped up and got called out but slammed back with a this is the last time this will be happening be thankful message.

dbcoops85d ago

Or just wait for actual confirmation from Sony instead of grabbing your pitchforks anytime IGN writes a Sony hate article. We should be demanding better of IGN.

KillBill84d ago

Wow... way to change the story to suit your own version of what went down. Sony admitted in their reply that they were wrong in this situation.

dbcoops84d ago


I'm not changing anything, I'm stating facts as apposed to mindlessly riding the IGN fodder train with you.

"Last year we made a commitment to deliver free upgrades for our cross-gen launch titles, which included Horizon Forbidden West."

"we will stand by our offer:"

Clearly some people are trying to change the story but I'm not one of them.

Go ahead post they exact quote from Sony where they said they were wrong in this situation, I'll wait.

Doge84d ago

"Thursday was to be a celebration of Horizon Forbidden West and the amazing team at Guerrilla working to deliver it on February 18, 2022. However, it’s abundantly clear that the offerings we confirmed in our pre-order kickoff missed the mark."

An update (by Jim Ryan) posted two days after the original blog post indicating that they failed to achieve the results intended in the original post, and how they are correcting it with a past commitment. You can continue blaming IGN if you want though or say stuff like how Sony "planned this all along" (which would make the situation worse since that would come off as a desperate marketing tactic).

Take it how you will~

dbcoops84d ago


If it was a past commitment they made as you stated how am I wrong saying it was previously planned? You can continue using this whole thing as an excuse to slam Sony but I think its been made clear to everyone's satisfaction hopefully, so everyone can move on with their lives now.

Doge84d ago (Edited 84d ago )

I never said you were right or wrong. All I did was give you the quote that you asked for, gave my 2 cents, and asked you to take it how you will.

But don't expect me to reply to you further because I really do not care for whatever insinuation you wanna throw at me, and instead I'll continue playing the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV which has a free trial, and includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn AND the award-winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime. Cheers~

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ocelot0785d ago

I bet you this won't get as much coverage at the sonys horizon upgrade path sucks one.

derek85d ago

Nope you're right, the outrage mob will be on to the next phony outrage.

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