The new PlayStation 5 model is not actually worse

The new PlayStation 5 model is not worse by most definitions including the most important one: its ability to play games.

[VenomUK]

I think the whole 'Hey Guys I'm Austin' debacle illustrates how lazy the games media is in reporting anything without fact-checking or properly framing the information. Austin Evans has repeatedly proven himself to be biased yet many websites reported his video as proof that the PS5 revised model has an overheating problem, when there is no evidence to say it has. Austin Evans discredited himself a long time ago but its the games media who should look at how they can do better.

[1nsomniac]

Have I misunderstood something? I was under the impression there was no mention of a factual overheating problem. All that was stated was the temperature being expelled from the console was up to 4 degrees higher. And this was directly due to the revised smaller heatsink?

[Atticus_finch]

Look the title of the video again.
"The new ps5 is worst"
There's clickbait and then there's misinformation.

[ocelot07]

If you watched the video. He kept going on how this is a bad thing. As a PC channel surely he would understand the hotter the air coming out the console means the heatsink and fan is doing it job no?

Like if my ps5 was not pushing all that heat out then I would be worried. Rather than being worried it's actually pushing the heat out successfully.

[darthv72]

Regardless of the title... the content was still accurate. The heatsink is reduced and the exhaust is warmer. Thats all I got out of it. Oh and the pcb is a different shade of green.

None of that means better or worse... just different. Some say higher temps are a sign of better cooling but wouldn't it also be a sign of hotter chips creating the heat that is being expelled? Sony knows what they are doing and 3-4 degree difference is obviously within tolerance levels.

Ambient air can also affect temps, and Winter is coming.

[--Onilink--]

I dont understand why people are pushing this idea that the exhaust was hotter because its expelling more air, if anything if your fan is pushing significantly more air, you would imagine that the heatsink temps would be cooler and therefore the exhaust cooler as well

An exhaust is not hotter because you push out more air, the temperature of the exhaust is determined by the how hot the heatsink is, its not like its a freaking sauna inside the PS5, the air has a pretty direct flow from the heatsink to the exhaust.

We also know the APU is the same, so chances are the heatsink is running hotter, but not necessarily the component itself, though to be honest, the chances of you removing half of your heatsink and how spread out you are was and not ending up with higher temps is probably not very high, how high? We’ll have to wait for GamersNexus to do the proper testing methodology.

Im honestly only worried about the memory, some modules were running a bit toasty before and ideally they would have increased the surface are to cover them, now its more likely that less modules are covered.

[Christopher]

***None of that means better or worse... just different. ***

But the YouTuber called it worse, the article title quoted him as such, so you agree with the complaints people have? No one is criticizing the PS5, they're criticizing the "journalist."

[frostypants]

Wait so this Austin idiot thinks a smaller heatsink makes the air hotter? It's not that simple, at all...

[1nsomniac]

Don’t know why this is so difficult for people to understand, other than of course it involves Sony.

The heatsink/exhaust expels the air provided to it. It doesn’t create heat. It cools it. If there is hotter air coming out there is hotter air going in, in the first place. Something that is cooler does not create higher temperatures. It crates lower temperatures.

Please someone explain how it can be more “efficient”??

If it’s more efficient the APU has to be cooler therefore the temperature being exhausted has to be cooler you put cooler air in you get cooler air out. The hotter the APU gets the more heat is generated, the more heat is expelled.

If you overclock a desktop cpu or gpu the temp readings go higher. The fans become louder as their RPM increases because it reads those temps going higher. The air being expelled doesn’t get colder it gets hotter. That’s why your room gets hotter. That’s why your cpu/gpu gets hotter and downclocks or potentially bluescreens .

This is simple common sense. It’s not engineering magic or brain surgery.

How can you remove more heat if your creating less heat. Come on people listen to yourselves.

Sony are just cutting costs like every other company does why are people acting like this hasn’t happened before…

[Kryptix1]

PC gamer here, let me explain.

If the new PS5 is quieter, it shouldn't really matter. If the fan is quieter, then the fan can output a higher max RPM which will help mitigate heat during heavier workloads. Yes, having a smaller heatsink is a bad thing because it means that there's less room for excess heat to dissipate. Though rest assured that outside temperature matters less than junction temperature which is the temperature of the core of the chip so it's possible that Sony's engineers know that the junction isn't hitting something like 100C even with the number of cooling solutions.

Sony is definitely cutting costs, but with anonymous diagnostic reports, they know where the limit is.

My advice is to not put the new PS5 in a very enclosed space because due to the lack of a bigger heat sink, it's going to be exhausting hotter air than the launch PS5. As long as you give it a little more space, this change isn't going to affect anyone at all. It's because the hotter air will loop back into the system if there is a wall blocking the air coming out. And this change makes zero difference during the cold winter times, it's free cooling. That's when us PC gamers overclock our CPUs and GPUs even more.

[IRetrouk]

"The heatsink/exhaust expels the air provided to it. It doesn’t create heat. It cools it. If there is hotter air coming out there is hotter air going in, in the first place. Something that is cooler does not create higher temperatures. It crates lower temperatures."

No, not at all, the hotter air could be coming out because of a few things,
Variance in chips,
Better airflow,
More efficient heatsink design.
It does not mean hotter internals....at all.

"If it’s more efficient the APU has to be cooler therefore the temperature being exhausted has to be cooler you put cooler air in you get cooler air out. The hotter the APU gets the more heat is generated, the more heat is expelled."

Nobody said the apu had changed or got more efficient, just the cooling around it. Again more hot air out doesn't always point to a hotter system, you may want it to, but thats not the case.

"How can you remove more heat if your creating less heat. Come on people listen to yourselves."

Who said the ps5 is creating less heat? Higher exhaust heat just points to the system better removing heat, thats it.

"If you overclock a desktop cpu or gpu the temp readings go higher. The fans become louder as their RPM increases because it reads those temps going higher. The air being expelled doesn’t get colder it gets hotter. That’s why your room gets hotter. That’s why your cpu/gpu gets hotter and downclocks or potentially bluescreens ."

This makes absolutely no sense as an example at all, first, the ps5s apu etc hasn't been changed, it's running the same as it was, drawing the same power, so it's only going to produce the same heat that it already was, the fact that the new ones put out more heat(if its not just natural chip variance) points to a better cooling solution, how is it you are not understanding this?.

[1nsomniac]

@retro. No. That’s not how it works! AGAIN if more heat is coming out then there is more heat there to begin with. It’s not magic. The heatsink doesn’t create heat. it can’t pass heat that is not there to begin with.

[IRetrouk]

Again, more exhaust heat does not mean the system is hotter, far from it, I've already explained why. The heatsink just transfers the heat, nobody debated that, but it is possible its more efficient, which would lead to warmer air coming out.

[1nsomniac]

At this point I’m just going to assume you’re trolling and I’m going to leave it at that.

[anast]

Couldn't agree more.

[TheGreatGazoo30]

Running hotter would qualify as worse, heat isn't good for computers. Is it a problem and will it affect reliability? Time will tell, but it isaccurate to say having it run hotter is worse.

[IRetrouk]

We don't know that it is running hotter, only that more heat is getting expelled. Variance in apu heat profiles also haven't been taken into account.

[UltraNova]

I don't see how Sony would knowingly release a compromised PS5 SKU. I'm waiting on Sony's official comment on their reasoning and testing.

[dumahim]

@IRetrouk

"We don't know that it is running hotter, only that more heat is getting expelled."

I wouldn't say more heat, just warmer air. Due to the new fan and it being quieter, I'd guess it's generating the same heat, but maybe less and hotter air.

I seem to recall there being some talk of the fan firmware a while back and they can tweak the profile, so they could change that to spin faster and bring it more in line with the original if they wanted. Either way, not a problem.

[anast]

@Gazoo I'm waiting for Gamers Nexus to get it in the lab.

[Good-Smurf]

Many of these tech channels got away with so many misinformation and clickbait just because they're the meme machines for tech folks and obviously their fans just laugh it off as their source of entertainment as long as it's not about their PC parts they'd just ignore the clickbait issues.

[anast]

This could be it. I think this kind of journalism is opportunistic, they will write whatever to make sure their advertisements are getting some love.

[senorfartcushion]

It’s probably just a bug, everybody is to blame for the debacle.

The company should check their stock before they get given to nepotistic youtubers, the nepotistic youtubers shouldn’t make clickbait videos and the fans of console wars shouldn’t blindly defend the company without having any solid info of their own

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I'll never forget how everyone praised this one terrible case, then Gamer's Nexus is like "nah fam, it's crap", that alone discredits alot of tech channels since alot of them didn't catch those flaws in the case's cooling.

[ABizzel1]

I've been saying this for years. There are pros and cons to the internet. It has granted so much transparency with world events, and instant access to knowledge, but it has also completely ruined the average intelligence of the general masses significantly and nearly killed journalist integrity.

The video game industry at least attempted to have integrity during the PS2 / PS360 eras, and I'd even say early PS4 XBO era, but over the last several years integrity is out the window and now it's whoever can release the biggest headline regardless of it being true or not, and then simply make a follow up video or a line of text in a multi-paragraph article full of misinformation, in an attempt to cover their behinds.

One of the first videos I saw of Austin was regarding PC specs and he was flat-out wrong on TFLOPS and comparing two different architectures. He's a tech enthusiast who has a large following, he is not a tech expert or from my understanding educated in engineering in any way, and the same goes for over 90% of the video game industry as a whole.

[anast]

Gamers Nexus is the place to go for tech. stuff. I don't know why journos aren't using this channel.

[darthv72]

gaming media is following the pattern of MSM. Exaggerate to get attention, and then if facts are checked... release the tiniest blurb that hardly anyone would ever see. That way they can say they addressed the concerns.

They (MSM) have been doing it for far to long but people didnt take notice until the previous administration brought it to light. #FakeNews

[fitofficial]

"Journalists" should look at how they can do better? 'Scuse me.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A

[babadivad]

Seems irrelevant since most can't get their hands on them because of scalpers. It boggles my mind that Microsoft and Sony haven't gotten a handle on this after nearly a year on the market. This is literally unprecedented in the console market.

[blackblades]

We all know he shiii like fox news, its just another days another shii on Sony for no real reason.

[Rude-ro]

Just all about pushing narratives to sway impulse purchases.
The gaming media is a joke, biased, paid for and even funded/owned by competitors in the gaming world.

Look at Microsoft’s elite controller and ALL the issues that led to a court mandated extended warranty… any articles making this commonly known? Nope

[TheDibbler]

I don’t see how Austin was misrepresented the facts. There are a couple of reasons why exhaust would have a higher temperature. The first possibility is if the design was improved to more efficiently transfer heat from the chip to the heatsink. The second possibility is if it is literally running hotter due to reduced cooling efficiency. The fact that the heatsink is smaller it seems reasonable to presume it is the latter. But, that doesn’t mean it is “worse” in a sense. While it is hotter it is within an acceptable range which is probably why Sony opted to use this opportunity to reduce costs. On paper it is technically worse but it is pretty much irrelevant.

[badz149]

I don't understand how and why people are still watching his channel. He's even remotely relevant now because he was there in the beginning. his channel reeks clickbait and barely any reliable tech info ever came from any of his videos which haven't been said by other channels and he just ripped them off like he knows stuff. worst tech channel ever! there are many more smaller tech channels more useful and have more credibility.

[dbcoops]

"Austin Evans discredited himself a long time ago"

Glad somebody said it.

[IRetrouk]

Also the fan isn't new, the ps5 launched with two different fans, the one Austin took out of the new ps5 is the same as one of the original two. The only real change is the heatsink, which now exhausts more hot air, not sure how that makes it worse🤷‍♂️

[elazz]

There are actually 4 or 5 fans spottend by now. Also exhaust warmer with the same silicon probably means better airflow which might as well offset a smaller heatsink. Also the lay-out changed which could improve airflow. You could compare noctua with a cheap brand. Much smaller yet perform better.

Without proper thermal sensor we would not know for sure but it seems to me that the difference is probably negligble when it concerns cpu and gpu temperatures.

[IRetrouk]

I know of 3 including the one from the official teardown, have not seen the others yet, any pics?

I agree, I'm pretty sure sony wouldn't be changing it just to make it cheaper if it was gonna effect anything negatively, they were already producing at profit before the change, and they know millions of these things will be out there.

There is a big Copper shortage though, prices rising aswell, which could have been the reason, along with Sony stating they would look at internals to help with production too, everyone just assumed they were talking about the apus.

[Tapani]

@Nakiro

There's a massive difference between a case fan and heatsink fan. You don't know what you are talking about. Layman logic doesn't apply here, it's thermodynamics we are talking about here. Indeed the APU can be cooler while the fan is blowing out hotter air than before. Logic would state a smaller heatsink means higher internal temps, but with GPUs/CPUs this is not always the case, and there's plenty of evidence out there where a smaller noctua heatsink can beat a larger chunk of metal, because the fans work better.

[Mulando]

That is not how physics work.
Hotter air with less cooling area (there is much less that can be touched by the air) means hotter cooler.
But yes, more tests are needed to be sure.
The cooling block has less contact with the air and also less copper. Copper is better in transferring heat than that what they replaced it with. So not only a smaller surface is reachable for the airflow, it will also take less heat from the plate.

[darkrider]

Everybody knows that Austin is in the pocket of one company....

[strifeblade]

The PlayStation generates heat. It is the source of the heat. The temperatures are similar conditions for both systems- so if the new ps5 has more heat outside than the old ps5 then one will conclude that the new ps5 runs hotter since you are getting closer to the source of the heat when you measure heat internally.

What don't you understand? What non sense are you spouting. Damage control at it's finest.

[IRetrouk]

If everything is running the same, and it's exhausting more heat, it means the new design is getting rid of more heat from the system, exactly what it's designed to do🤦‍♂️

Again there is heat variance in every single gpu and cpu, no two chips will run at the same temp, they vary, this isn't taken into account at all. The extra heat getting expelled could also be because the fan speed is different or the airflow has been changed, again, not something that's been taken into account.

More heat getting expelled does not mean the insides are any hotter than they were or the heatsink is worse, im not damage controlling, I'm using common sense, you however seem awefully invested in this ps5 model being worse....

[kneon]

They didn't measure the heat, they measured the temperature. Heat and Temperature are NOT the same thing.

Kneon, Bsc. Physics

[GhostofHorizon]

It's not that simple.

There is no doubt PS5 is warmer. We know that beacuse of the heat being expelled, you could make an arguement that CPU and GPU are cooler but the fact would remain that the rest of the box is warmer.

The only way the warmer box could be cooler is if there is a system in place to displace the air in a more controlled manner, a bigger fan is not the solution here.

Either way it doesn't matter, the heat difference is minimal. The original article made the issue sound a lot worse than it actually is and the criticism should be directed that way, statements made were accurate to a degree though.

[IRetrouk]

Nakiro, warmer air being expelled does not mean a warmer system, it actually points to the cooling system being better at its job than the previous one, we do not know that the box is warmer, and if the apu is now cooler, that would mean the whole system would be too, not sure how you've come up with that take to be honest.

Also fans, sizes and types do make a difference to air flow in a system, which can 100% help with cooling.

The statements were false, with very unsound testing done lol.

[anast]

You might want to reread your post.

[GhostofHorizon]

That's not how that works...

The heat produced in a console or a computer does not go directly out. It builds up and the fans eventually push it out. That's all a fan does, it cools the console by blowing out the air contained in the casing.

For your method to work as you think it does, you would need an air tight seal around the heatsink or something similar.

[IRetrouk]

The heatsink draws the heat away from the components and the fans create the airflow to get rid of it from the heatsink, the airflow does not need to be airtight just directed, which it is, and fan speed and size does indeed have an effect on cooling, why do you think Sony said they would monitor it and change it as needed to get the best results?

[CaptainHenry916]

"Concern trolls are just worried that the PS5 will melt"

I have to agree with him on this 😂 Was this article created by Jeff Grubb?

[darkrider]

What fake news can do. The worst part of the console war. Some dude that is in the pocket of another Company say something that is wrong, on a video full of mistakes... But it's news... The new model is cooler then the last. Cooler. It takes even more heat from inside the ps5.

[Zhipp]

No where was it stated that the new model is cooler

[Destiny1080]

i heard that sony will only release blockbusters during the winter months because of overheating issues, just look at the release date for horizon forbidden west for absolute factual proof

[anast]

Nice.

[rakentaja]

Youtube is full of PS5 videos with artefacts: https://www.youtube.com/wat...
as some PS5 memory chips operate only 1-2 degrees below critical temperatures.
So, this may be true ...
Even MBG had to clean his PS5 because it had the same problem. There is no space inside the PS5 for dust.

[ShadowWolf712]

There's literally a dust chamber, fam.

[Rhythmattic]

Keep spinning it.. 3 times a day... Its your destiny.

[The Wood]

Another day Another FUD piece debunked

[The Wood]

You'd think all the bs FUD articles and rhetoric would slow playstations growth.......guess what ......

[Aloymetal]

Exactly and this is the main reason they come up with these BS articles. It’s to be expected when PS is the alpha home console gaming brand around the GLOBE and haters with their agendas will do anything to minimize the success. It hasn’t worked in 20 yrs!

[Orchard]

It’s only a couple of degrees Celsius warmer.

Obviously this is going to have no noticeable impact on hardware lifespan, especially on hardware that is used for thousands and thousands of hours.

If it lets them produce more units during the pandemic then it’s a great move for consumers.

[darkrider]

Dude it's not hotter inside. It's cooler... They are tryng to create another fake news like they did before the launch. The ps5 would burn... Tons of payed fake news for months about the console being very hot...

[GhostofHorizon]

I think you are using flawed logic here.

Your assumption is that more heat is dispersed and thus the inside is cooler.

There are two issues at play here. The heat of the console and the heat of the components. Heat produced is most likely the same. So we have a few scenarios that could play out here.

1. Heatsink does a better job and the components are cooler while the rest of the console is warmer.

2. Heating does a worse job and the component is warmer thus the console is warmer.

We don't actually know which one is in play here without doing more tests. We just know the console is warmer which doesn't give us a good indication of one way or another.

This article doesn't disprove that the heating problem is better or that everything is fine, he is just making an educated guess that things are probably fine. Which is probably true, we probably won't know for sure. I'm confident Sony has done proper testing and took appropriate measure to ensure PS5 is doing just fine.

[IRetrouk]

We don't know that the system is warmer though that's the thing, just the expelled air, that could point to many things.
Variance in chips,
Heatsink being better,
Airflow being better,

Warmer air out does not automatically mean the system is warmer.

[MrSec84]

Thermodynamics tells us that you have a set amount of heat in a system, if the processor is the same and all other components are the same then more heat out of the back of a system means less inside.
You can't argue against this, it's physics, anyone saying that more heat out of the back the console doesn't mean lower temperatures inside clearly doesn't have a clue how physics works.

Sony chose to use a bigger fan, plus longer pipes coming directly from the area that contains the liquid metal thermal medium, having smaller fins reduces the insulation elements on top of the chip, it moves more heat because Sony have increase material where it matters and reduced it where that was impeding heat transference.
We know the temperatures that the launch model produced, how that effected the SoC, you only have what heat you have inside the console, this being further removed from inside the new system, when the SoC isn't getting hotter is all you need to know.

It wouldn't be hard to find out power consumption of the new model, as far as I'm aware it's the same, so there would be no way for this new PS5 to be doing anything but a better job of cooling the console.
There is no argument that the people replying to darkrider can make without these people showing they are utterly clueless about this topic, they have no business making these comments to jump through hoops to make this seem like a bad thing because a clueless initial content creator on YouTube lied.

[Darkborn]

Even if it was, the Xbox series x is even hotter than both models. Where's their doom articles? On top of that, it's air leaving the system. If it stayed inside it, the console would remain hotter.

[Muigi]

People are just so quick to jump on negative Sony news lol.

[Darkborn]

Everytime. I love how just recently Sony got the first game to run AMD FSR which was supposedly impossible because their console is "zen 1 or 1.5" at best. They released the first game implementing a supposed impossible feature on that. They also got the first upscale 8k game that is also not possible on their "weak" system.

[MrSec84]

The whole FSR thing was hilarious, considering that you could use it on pre RDNA GPUs, from my understanding if you can run FP16 code then you could technically use FSR.

[Silly gameAr]

Oh, more fake news from the gaming media? Nah, that can't be. They want to find something negative so bad, that they don't care if it's legit or not.

[Darkborn]

I actually never watched the whole video, but I saw a clip where the guy next to him was from PSready and he's always slandering playstation from a few videos I saw from him. So I just figured it was clickbait.

[Wintersun616]

Yeah I tried to watch another video on this subject from that other guy, but couldn't make it past the part where he claimed all playstations starting from PS3 have had serious overheating issues.

[foker]

Seams it is more efficient,.. also fan is better,.. basically has more surface,..300 grams of copper less is not a huge saving,..but considering they are selling in 10's of millions everything helps.

[darklaw]

Better, worse, Green, Black, turquoise.... Who really cares what they do to the PS5 when you cant find any for retail purchase! Not one store in my area has one for sale not even 100 miles out of my service area, or my province! Get some of these systems on the shelves, then maybe someone will really give a sh** when they go changing the system.

[derek]

The best part is all the YouTube and Twitter engineers that come out of the woodwork. Does xbox community not understand that all the fud they've been spreading will not make the series consoles more attractive? Lol

[darkrider]

Nope, but in console wars everything is used... Social media and you tubers are a weapon

[Stanjara]

True!

[z2g]

Lol at this article. How dare someone say something not positive about PlayStation! Dying.

[Dandizzle]

Sony has very smart engineers who all went to collage and have advanced engineering degrees. I think they know what they are doing. Nothing wrong with new ps5 model. Just like any console put in a ventilated area try and keep dust away and it will be fine.
Xbox runs hotter but does anyone mention that? No because it's not a big deal and designed to work that way.

[NextGenCeo]

If i wasn't mistake Mark Cerny said PlayStation 5 using variable clock rate for Cpu and Gpu. So if cpu and gpu get more heat, so clocks reduced for cooling automatically. All cpu and gpu working on PC same way. That's why cooling to APU on PS5 is important. That's why PS5 have big cooling system. If you cut down heatsinks or alloys from this cooling solutions, you should make new and better options.

But on those pictures we can't see any better solution yet. We need tests real game test and heat results. But basic knowledge if it's runs hotter, will be reduces cpu and gpu boost clock's and this is gone be maybe not big problem for now but in time will be big problem. (ESL guy sorry for English)

[IRetrouk]

That's not how the ps5 apu and cooling works.

"We don't use the actual temperature of the die, as that would cause two types of variance between PS5s," explains Mark Cerny. "One is variance caused by differences in ambient temperature; the console could be in a hotter or cooler location in the room. The other is variance caused by the individual custom chip in the console, some chips run hotter and some chips run cooler. So instead of using the temperature of the die, we use an algorithm in which the frequency depends on CPU and GPU activity information. That keeps behaviour between PS5s consistent."

https://www.eurogamer.net/a...

[moriarty1889]

looks like they made it more efficient. the launch model is a little noisier with the fan and had a lot of copper to compensates for the larger heat sink. the newer model has a smaller heat sink and doesn’t use the same amount of copper. the fan looks more efficient at channeling the heat out of the system . overall looks like a nice upgrade. lighter and more efficient system imo.

[Master-Tonberry]

The Austin Evan's video proves one thing and one thing only, Austin and friends have absolutely no idea how heatsinks/thermal dynamics work.

For them to say and I quote "we know it's not as efficient because it runs hotter" after measuring nothing but the heat being exhausted from the console says it all.

Heatsinks do not magically take the heat from the hot components and absorb it into nothingness, they just spread the heat out through fins after which it moves into the Ambient air, either via natural convection (passive cooling) or in the case of the PS5 with the help of a great big fan to speed the process up and prevent the heatsink getting saturated.
The ONLY way to tell how effectively the new cooling works is to measure the temperature of the APU, Memory, SSD and any other hot IC's directly and compare with the original design.

Also I'm fairly sure that the "new" fan that they found in the revised model has been in wide circulation since the launch of the PS5, there are no less than 3 fan variant's already in use.

[Iceball2000]

what needs to happen now is for Gamers Nexus to do an other video with the new PS5

[babadivad]

Unless you are taking temps from the actual SoC and memory chips, testing the heat expelled literally tells you nothing.

It could be that the chips are running hotter or that the fan and heat sinks are more efficient at expelling air. It's like we haven't been through this already.

Digital Foundry thought the XSX wasn't cooling the SoC efficiently because of how much heat came out the top and how cooler the PS5 exhaust was. Come to find out the exact opposite was proven true when the testing is done by someone who knows what they are doing. The more heat expelled from the console the better(in the case of the original consoles that is). After these findings, DF recanted their hypothesis.

Unless we get someone like Gamers Nexus to do in depth on chip temperatures like they did on the launch PS5 and XSX, these articles are pointless.

[Knightofelemia]

Sony tests their stuff out before releasing it last thing they want is customers returning their PS5's for warranty work due to heating issues. Board revisions will change things simplify things every console/system has done it. Sega did it with their machines, Nintendo has done it, Microsoft has done it with the Xbox, Commodore has done it and so on.

[UncertainCategory]

Ironically this story is now “today’s hottest” lol.

[mastershredder]

The article title however...

[ElvisHuxley]

Duh. Turns out predictable clickbait nonsense, is just that.

[gamer7804]

It’s probably fine, DF is trying to get their hands on one to do a thorough test.

[babadivad]

DF doesn't know what their doing. The flubbed up their test on the launch consoles because they don't have the tools to properly test it.

Wait for Gamers Nexus to test it like they did for the launch consoles.

[zero_jp]

The engineers at Sony did the math. So this notion that its worse is laughable.

They know what stresses the console can and cannot handle better than anyone in the gaming media world.

So whether or not it gets hotter by a few degrees or more. The bottom line is that the console should run quiet and be fine.

I swear people will find anything little thing to nitpick about. The only problem I see with the console is its scarce availability.

But that’s not Sony’s fault that’s Covid-19’s fault along with the world wide chip shortage going on that every company who sells electronics is having to deal with.

[Viljong]

The cooling of og ps5 is perfect i really hope they dont ruin the silent operation, its one of the best features this gen

[MrSec84]

It's quieter and this new design also moves more heat out of the system, so logically the chip would run cooler, better design without question.

[CrimsonWing69]

In other news…

[DivineHand125]

I am going to on share an on popular opinion here. I am worried about how persons are ready to discredit the findings made by Austin over this opinion piece even though Austin had the actual console in front of him and showed you video evidence of what he was saying. Yes his videos do have click bait titles but the content is what matters and it brings us back to the discussion that we had prior to the ps5 launch. Will the smaller heat sink make the ps5 sound like it is about to go to Mars as dust builds up over time.

Do I believe the cooler in the original unit is superior? Yes because the it uses more copper and covers a larger surface area.

Do I believe the new ps5 will lead to the next rrod or something similar? No

Do I believe the new cooling solution is inadequate? No as it is very unlikely. Even though the size of the headsink is now smaller, it is still bigger than what you would normally see industry wide.

Do I believe the new version does a better job at cooling? Idk because no one has checked the heat coming from the APU and memory components as yet.

Until I receive video evidence from someone that actually has the 2 consoles to compare, my opinion will not change.

[MrSec84]

The copper pipes in this new cooler are actually at least 50% bigger, those parts actually move direct heat from the SoC, there's also a bigger fan, also remember that excess fins can actually serve to insulate the heat above the chip, so a reduction or alteration in the design of the new PS5's Heatsink actually moves more heat from the chip.

This is why more heat is being removed from the inside of the console, hence why there's more heat coming from the exhaust, this is logical and makes sense.
There simply can't be more heat on the APU, it's the same kind of chip, thermodynamics doesn't allow for you to get more energy from nothing, this cooler is clearly better, there's no two ways about it.

[FanboysKiller]

I hate when the media suddenly treats the community as a 5th grade immatures so they explain the stuff on their own way to fit their narrative. I'm sorry but they asked for so much to make their point clear , that's pure pr.

[Miacosa]

No Sh!t, you mean a Youtuber embellished claims in a video with poor validation just for engagement and to flame console war BS, who would have thought.

[Brazz]

Only console warriors will try to sell the idea that "new ps5" will have meltdown. These guys are desperate to make ps5 look bad.

[RedDevils]

Mind blown

[Bronbron92]

Crazy how a new ps5 model comes and it’s instantly claimed to be worse now it’s back tracked not to be lol

[mixelon]

I’m sure this new cooling setup is fine. I’d definitely go with the version with the bigger heat sink though given the choice. Even if it is potentially slight overkill. Who knows the operating temp range of these components anyway, if anyone does it’s Sony. 😅

[gold_drake]

this is why you dont trust a youtuber.
most of them live off of clickbait and misinformation, to cause controversy.

even his pinnend comment said "thats just my opinion", to wiggle himself out of any accountability.

theres no way sony or anyone else would purposely make a console worse. they collect data and test it out.

[BLAKHOODe]

Like with everything, one group says one thing and another group disagrees.

Does it work? Does it play PS5 games just as good as the original? Does it have all the same features? Yea? I'll take 2.

[MrSec84]

The new model removes more heat from the console, the copper pipes on this new model are longer, this means more direct heat is being moved away from the Processor, which is the point of a heatsink.
Too much fin material could actually insulate the heat further within the system, which is why the design was changed, this new model also uses a larger fan.

If the SoC in this model is the same as the launch model, but this new design is moving more heat out of the back of the system then more heat is being removed from the Processor, this new design will actually have a better lifespan, not a shorter one, as a result of this new design.

Austin Evans is clueless, if more heat is coming from the back of the console then it's logically coming from somewhere, anyone with basic understanding of thermodynamics understands that you can't get extra heat from nowhere and you wouldn't have more heat on the APU when there's more being removed from the console.
Clearly he made this video to spark Fanwars, clickbait to generate return traffic to his stupid video.

[Father__Merrin]

"hey guys I'm Austin and I'm a fanboy"