Gears of War 2's various matchmaking woes will be fixed soon, Mark Rein, vice president of Epic Games, told members of the company's fan forums last week. "Relax folks. We'll make it right," he wrote in one of at least nine posts on the matter.
Shouldn't have to "relax", it shouldn't have been so broken to start with.
I agree, but seeing as Epic was so anti-demo/beta problems like this weren't fixed prior to launch like they have been with past AAA titles.
I was going to say something similar. Of course Mark Rein is relaxed he just sold over 3mil copies and already got my money. But when I buy a game I expect it to work as advertised and while Gears 2 is great, it should not have the glaring bugs it has. So how about you stop telling us to relax Mark and get up and get the damn patch out so I GET THE GAME I PAYED FOR, which is expected to work. There anti-beta and demo policy is a big screw you to the gamers that buy the buggy game on launch day. The game is still awesome but he needs to just say "A patch is coming very soon" and leave it at that.
how about you give every person that purchased your broken game their money back? I bet you yourself wouldn't be too relaxed if you had to do that. Gears of War 2 is definitely one of those games I wish I could get my money back from. I haven't touched mine in weeks and I doubt I will because from the looks of things Epic doesn't seem to concerned over fixing it. It should have never had matchmaking with voting to begin with. The original Gears was fine. Why did they feel compelled to change it?
While the matchmaking is sometimes annoying it has gotten better fromt he recent patch. The best way to do it though is just have 5 of your buddies in your party and you won't have any trouble at all. I think one of the reason Epic changed the old system to the matchmaking system is so that people won't know until later who the host is. Everybody knows about host advantage in the first gears and now with the matchmaking system you won't know who host until you get owned by one shot shotgun blast. I like the matchmaking because now you can have 5 of your friends play with you in ranked games. I know you can do that in Gears 1 but it was a hassle trying to get 5 of your friends in a the same game.
I relax myself by playing other games. We can sit here and whine all day, but what's done is done. Leave the man to his work and let's occupy ourselves with other games until Gears 2 gets fixed properly. That's all. I do agree though that this serious of an issue should've been QA'ed the hell out of misery before going Gold. We can sit here and play the "what if" game and the "should have" game all day, but that's time better spent for gaming and other stuff. We can discuss how much Epic Games sucks in the forums.
I hate having my chainsaw on a guys skin for 10 seconds and no kill but he revs for a second and kills me. Screw that.
Host advantage is hard to mitigate without dedicated servers.
Someone is really wrong, and it's not MS or Epic.
Its the games fault. Not XBL. Make some sense next time.
if thats happened to you i recommend getting a new internet connection, i've played Gears2 a lot and never had any lag as bad as that! Only 1 in 5 games is even slightly laggy for me. Horde has NEVER lagged for me and the MP is not as bad as people make out on here. Matchmaking takes no longer if not less time than Halo3.
I can see it from Rein's point of view. It's just a game, and nerd rage can get a little petulant over such matters. Play another game, read a book, watch a movie, hang out with friends; not getting in a Gears 2 match is far from the end of the world.
I spend $60 (which is still a lot of money) to buy a finished product. Not to beta test a game that missed bugs any blind/deaf/dumb Q&A tester could of caught. 360 gamers have had enough of the "it's broke but we will patch it later" garbage. I wonder how relaxed Mr Rein would be if he had to give $10 back to every gamer that bought it because it doesn't perform the way it should. My guess he would go into a sort of "nerd rage" himself.
It's very hard to get into matches. Very often, you wait 5 minutes and then it restarts matchmaking. You have to quit out and retry and hope to get a match. It almost breaks the game. Once your in, though, it works fine. (There will always be minor glitches.)
Just to be clear. Are people saying THIS game is GOTY?
I'm not lol.
GOTY!!! YES!!!! Gears 2!!! GOTY!!!! I say it but I don't mean it, I don't have a game of the year, I have many games that I enjoyed that year, nothing more, nothing less, GOTY is pointless really.
i am not either... and i am an xbox fan. as long as we keep smiling and saying how great it is, even when it so broken we will keep getting more of this. personally i don't think gears deserves the hype or sales it got, sadly most gamers will say i am a noob and don't know how to play the game thats why i am complaining... ya well you can expect gears 3 to be out in 6 months with no textures at all and so many online issues it will set your phoneline on fire. people will still say its game of the year. If EA, EA of all people, can bring out a game that is bug free at launch with no day one patch, why should i expect less from gears 2? anyway, if they fix it properly maybe, maybe i will consider playing it. at the moment i have only played it online 3 times and i have not even finished the single player. ya, i would rather play COD 4. oh and just incase, Dead Space is my game of the year ! followed very closly by Fallout 3. visually the best looking game this year for me was farcry 2. the game had major problems of its own yes, but purely on a graphical rating, you can't deny it had some of the best looking environments. gears is this close to going in the pre-owned bin for some cash back.
Far Cry 2 did look good. However, Crysis: Warhead came out this year.
I'd be a little ticked if I only had money for one game this holiday season and had spent it on GoW2 (Thankfully, I have other things to do with my time)
Its already #3 on the top played list with Halo 3 still #1 & WAW now #2 & Left 4 Dead I imagine will eventually get #3. If only Monopoly had Online Play then that would be #1
I just don't understand it. Why go back to Halo 3?
Because it works and it is still incredibly fun.
""Its already #3 on the top played list with Halo 3 still #1 & WAW now #2 & Left 4 Dead I imagine will eventually get #3. If only Monopoly had Online Play then that would be #1 "" I really would like to know who your "sources" are for these numbers. Because what I'm looking at, which updates in realtime, is Gears 2 back up to #1... COD:WAW @ #2... and Halo 3 @ #3. ???? Look it up, maybe Halo 3 just got a burst, I don't know, personally I saw it shoot up to #1 myself but it looks like things have changed these past couple days. Don't get me wrong, Halo 3 did soo many things right and you can't take that away from it along with "tried & true" gameplay and tight controls but I still end up playing Gears every time. And my friend's list is full of people mostly playing Gears 2.
they got the sales for the game already. they arent in a rush. they need to fix the chainsaw. its not that its too powerfull. of course its deadly, but how easy it is to run around pressing b and killing anything
Relax? Here's an idea. Don't ship out a broken or unfinished game with the intent of "patching it later." That's just BS. F off Marky. It wasn't okay with Socom, it's NOT okay here.
It wasn't just not ohkay with Socom. It got Socom much lower reviews. I realize that Gears of War 2 isn't just multi-player also. I'm talking about the glitches in the single-player campaign.
Don't forget MGO. LBP had problems too.
With problems like this there's no way for a company to know in advance that they can't handle the user load or that it wont work with millions trying at it. Of course they should have done a beta but that's another dicussion. So I mean, to be fair to them, they didn't ship an unfinished product KNOWINGLY.
How's about you give me back my $60 bucks?Sorry,I loved GeOW1,but GeOW2 not only possesses the worst multiplayer around,but the goddamn story is still a mess(Lambent?"What have you done?"Seriously?). If I were to rate Gears 1,I would give it a 9 out of 10.If I were to rate Gears 2,I would give it a 7.5 out of 10.It was literally the biggest disappointment of the year for me,and this is after playing the godawful Too Human and the mediocre Haze.
i am with you 100 % on your review of the game. i also loved gears 1, but hate gears 2. and its not just because of the weapon changes or the chainsaw.
I had the opposite effect. I thought Gears of War was pretty boring...and Gears of War 2 held my attention. The storyline was enticing. The multi-player sucks balls on both of them...unless you got the PC version of the first one.
meh works for me :) lol....only thing that is pissn me off in multiplayer is shotgunning a person going to try and chainsaw you from a body length away...and they dont flinch...but thats only sometimes...but is deff something needed to be fixed...
but if this problem is as bad as you guys are saying then i wonder why reviwers didn't pick this up. I play MP with friends local and its a blast.
personally its what ive been playing online more then any of my other games when I have time.... and for the most part since the first weekend it has worked pretty well... I dont have the matchmaking problems etc....like most people have had so that doesnt bother me...plus I usually travel thru games with a group of people..... But there are some inconsistencies with the chainsaw/shotgun fight etc that do need to be fixed and a few glitches people use once n a while....but the glitches dont really help the guys out that much...especially against a good team..... This game is a lot less buggy then the mess called CoD WaW.......
I happen to like the fact that the chainsaw is alot stronger now as i like chainsawing people. I get killed alot in Gears 1 for trying to chainsaw people.
yeah see its all personal preference...
Reviewers didn't pick up on it because reviewers get the game before there are millions online so they wouldn't know the online was flawed.
gimme back the original shotgun!!!
It took me about two to 3 shots to blow people to bits in Gears 1 but it takes forever in Gears 2.
Same thing I was screaming when I first played Gears 2! LOL. I since got used to it and pwn anyone who comes close... Gears 1 tactics working overtime! The use of cover the most important thing to learn like Gears 1. Gears 1 still plays solid and crisp, and the oh so satisfying headshot never gets old.
I respect Epic...but this is not acceptable. I have a feeling reviewers pushed these glitches aside to make sure it got the 10 it "deserved".
Glitches? You mean the useless "shield glitch"? I don't get it. I have a problem with matchmaking once in a while, hardly ever really even before the patch. And the shotgun was gimped because of players "crying" about how the shotgun this and the shotgun that so they made it less impactful, that's all. At least they listen, even if it's from the wrong crowd. You should play Gears 1 PC, the lancer will down you in a couple of shots... nobody complains, because they cried that the lancer was too weak so they changed it and now they say it's too strong. Word to crybabies, leave well enough alone next time they won't gimp the game because of you./ end of rant
It's great when a Developer can be so nonchalant about screwing the paying customer out of what was advertised and hyped up beyond belief. Way to take advantage of the gaming consumer's trust! Why should gamers relax? Do you expect them to take the Epic way of dealing with a problem - relaxing and sleeping on a bed made of money? And before anyone starts spitting out some BS at me, yes, I have played the game in its entirety.
Not 1 single followup from anyone mentions the bumbled up matchmaking.. But hey, dont worry. The game is still 10/10 Right? Riggght? Just like GTA4
Yeah obviously there are pretty bad ass match making issues, these should have been made apparent in the reviews.
keep working on GOW3 for release within one year of GOW2 vs fix the problems with the game I have already paid for...tell you what Mark,,,you and your team DONT RELAX to you fix what I paid for which is not that good
Gears 2 online needs some major tweeking but maybe thats why they gave you bots? Now trying to play with bots if you don't want to wait for an online match is brutal. The stupidist AI I've ever seen. I probably wont play online till they fix their game. I don't understand how all of the new games come out with so many problems online. All these games have server or match making problems on release. Halo 3, COD4, [email protected], Gears 2!
just sold mind,epic fail and resistance 2 is way more fun than this,even when and if you do get gears to match it freezes or just lags so bad its unplayable,very dissapointed but resi 2 is a blast,man am i glad i got a ps3 as well.
Try moving out of the ghetto/trailer park, you might find you'll have a better connection. Oh and trade in that dial up modem for a newer model.
i'm one of the few that had very little issues with matchmaking, at first i was only having trouble with 4 player parties, after the patch though things have been much smoother occasionally there is a stall in process but it seems it is more from people in the system stopping searches it actually works if you are patient, the problem comes when people cancel match searches after 5 seconds and restart my main grip aside from the rambo chainsaw is the fact that i'm constantly matched with people in the UK or france and the game lags like a 3 legged dog but when the game is smooth and people aren't quitting it is incredibly fun, the chainsaw can be dealt with on a low lag game but now the game has been out a few weeks glitchers are popping up everywhere and trying to ruin the game for everyone just like gears1 it seems like that is the main goal of people these days is to find an exploit in the game and do it to ruin everyone elses fun
Play Gears 1 MP = smooth as butter, instant matches, excellent weapons switching & feel, stellar controls. Play Gears 2 MP = clunky controls, slow weapons use & changing thereof, arcade weapon feel & fire, chainsaws walk thru bullets, the worst connection advantages in a MP game ever, & matchmaking... LOL = EPIC FAIL But the co-op campaign & graphics are outstanding. And the Horde is just awesome. But for me the MP changes made for Gears 2 = EPIC FAIL
you should probably stop using cool net speak terms like epic fail because it makes your comments intolerable to read whether they have a point or not
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