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New Hellblade Senua’s Sacrifice Comparison Shows That Xbox One X is Still Quite the Beast

Yesterday, out of nowhere, Microsoft and developer Ninja Theory released a next-gen patch for Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice. How does the game look and perform on the Xbox Series X|S compared to the last-gen versions?

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darthv72158d ago (Edited 158d ago )

i just started playing this on the one x (in fps mode) and then after it was reported that there was a series optimized version, I downloaded it to the series s. I still run in fps mode but I did try the other modes and was impressed at what this little system can do.

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Tacoboto157d ago

I've played up to the fork in the road after the gate fight with RT. For this kind of slower game 30fps isn't so bad for how detailed it looks... though I want that Series X 120 mode

TheDoomedGuy157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

In other words the Xbox one X could play all next gen games...but Microsoft decided to say no just because.

I'd like a one x machines for next gen at the same price. The one x has a disc drive but the series s doesn't so that's why I won't be purchasing a series console.

I don't need the series x to enjoy the games but series s doesn't have a disc drive.

darthv72157d ago

lack of optical drive is not a bother to me. I still have the one x for that but just my recent experience with jedi fallen order on the one x makes me less likely to continue using it and instead opt for the much quicker load times of the series s. The one x will get replaced soon enough with a series x but in the meantime i can play many of my disc based games digitally with little to no loading.

ArthriticPowers157d ago

No the cpu bottleneck is a thing. 30fps on Halo infinite tech preview is testament to that.

Lightning77157d ago

"In other words the Xbox one X could play all next gen games...but Microsoft decided to say no just because."

Redfall, Fable, perfect Dark, Avowed etc are only on Series X|S. HB1 is a last gen game obviously. In what world do you think the 1X can play next gen games?

TheDoomedGuy157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

I tend to forget that console fans are still somewhat blind to the reality that the series s is not a big improvement at all from the xbox one x.

All the xbox one x needs is an ssd drive along with a system update that could potentially make the console benefit from one. possibly anyways.

@lightning
Im well aware about those games coming out only on the series consoles but the series s isnt more powerful than the xbox one x. It was so clear to me from the start that I was excited to be able to get a one x and play all future titles since the series s could do it.

@ArthriticPowers

Correct me if im wrong but isnt the one x displaying at a significantly higher resolution?
They could perfectly lower the resolution to 1080p like on the series s and run it at 60fps. Wouldnt be surprised fi the one x is also running graphics at higher settings on top of the higher resolution.

The fact is that aside from loading screens and possible implementation of ssd into game worlds, i say possible since these games are also releasing on PC and therefore will likely allow regular HDD to be used for their 1st party, the one x would be able to run every game that the series S can.

Neonridr157d ago

with that Jaguar based CPU? I doubt it.

Lightning77157d ago

"All the xbox one x needs is an ssd drive along with a system update that could potentially make the console benefit from one. possibly anyways."

They stopped production of the
1X. It's never gonna happen and nobody will waste time doing it.

"Im well aware about those games coming out only on the series consoles but the series s isnt more powerful than the xbox one x. It was so clear to me from the start that I was excited to be able to get a one x and play all future titles since the series s could do it."

I don't think you are aware. Basically what your saying is Hellblade 2 can run on 2013 X1 since you think it can run on the 1X. If it can run on 1X it can run on base X1. The GPU and CPU are next gen just clocked lower in the S. The CPU and GPU in the 1X is last gen. Just clocked a little higher. Whatever feats the S Does the 1X can't do because it's a last gen console just beefier. The S is 2X stronger and faster than the 1X.

The 1X uses a modified Jaguar CPU. The S uses the Zen2 processor clocked in very similar to the the X. It's A next gen GPU just clocked lower.

iplay1up2157d ago

Load times are cut by 75% on current gen hardware. I have X1X, but wouldn't want to go back to it.

TheDoomedGuy157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

@Lightning77
No. Just because it could run on the 1X does not mean it could run on the Xone.
Games are being developed more towards gpuram nowadays and that is likely what will continue to occur.

The one x will undoubtedly be able to run whatever series S can run. My gtx 2060 is last gen in terms of gpu's and it can and will run next gen games. A 970 or 980 is several gens behind and it can run next gen games...970 would struggle but it was able to run cyberpunk 2077 in mid to low settings. same with a 1070...etc.

The argument of last gen vs next gen hardware is useless when you have the series s which has about the same capabilities as last gen. Hence why it runs a lot of games at 1080p and will do so more often as the gen advances.

DJStotty157d ago

@TheDoomedGuy

"In other words the Xbox one X could play all next gen games...but Microsoft decided to say no just because."

Hellblade : Senua's sacrifice is not a next-gen game, but only received a next-gen patch.

Nice attempt though

DJStotty157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

@TheDoomedGuy

"My gtx 2060 is last gen in terms of gpu's and it can and will run next gen games."

So your saying your 2060 will be able to run R&C, Returnal and any future next-gen PS5 games also?

That is great to know...

"the series s which has about the same capabilities as last gen. Hence why it runs a lot of games at 1080p and will do so more often as the gen advances."

ermm...

"The Xbox Series S receives the same modes but with different effects. The performance mode is limited to 60FPS and the resolution is listed as “full HD”. The resolution mode will up this to 1440p at 30 FPS."

oops... made a boo boo there didn't you? The Series S is 1440p for this game, exactly what it says on the tin.

TheDoomedGuy156d ago

@DJStotty

"So your saying your 2060 will be able to run R&C, Returnal and any future next-gen PS5 games also?"

Yes absolutely it will run ps5 games. I have an SSD with my computer as well and it should prove no problem at 1080p. It's a laptop so no reason to go higher.

"The Xbox Series S receives the same modes but with different effects. The performance mode is limited to 60FPS and the resolution is listed as “full HD”. The resolution mode will up this to 1440p at 30 FPS.

oops... made a boo boo there didn't you? The Series S is 1440p for this game, exactly what it says on the tin."

What boo? Performance mode is 60fps at 1080p.....exactly what i said. Someone had made a mention of halo but may have edited that out since then. They said that halo will be running at 60fps on Series S and 30fps on XoneX. To that I said its because ts running it at 1080p not higher and the XoneX is running it at higher resolution and at 30fps. And your comment just proves what im saying. The quality mode runs it at 1440p @30fps which is actually lower than the XoneX at 30fps.

Teflon02156d ago

Well in a sense yeah, kinda as long as a game doesn't rely on the ssd. Especially since they gotta have a series S version to every game. But you can't ignore the CPU issues of last Gen. Even the one X has a trash cpu compared to this Gen and that's where the series s has it beat out. So if it's a gpu intensive game. Sure, but games that rely on modern cpus aren't going to be very ideal

TheDoomedGuy156d ago

@Teflon

Yes thats fair. But keep in mind it only needs to run the games at 1080p...it doesnt have to go higher even though they insist on doing so. Most games are GPU intensive because of the vram focus of consoles...and even though the consoles have better cpus the vram is still the focus.

Lightning77156d ago

"No. Just because it could run on the 1X does not mean it could run on the Xone."

Yes it does. They're last gen systems bro.

"The one x will undoubtedly be able to run whatever series S can run."

Sure if it's cross gen. You'll be able to play Horizon 5 and Infinite on 1X since it's cross gen. If you think you'll be able to HBII on 1X you're in for a rude, RUDE awakening. All you have to do is quick simple google search but hey believe your own narrative. The S is a entry lvl next gen machine that runs games from 1080p to 1440p notice how the S runs most games at 60 fps. How many games last gen games ran at 60fps standard that weren't online shooters, sports games and certain racers? Anyway the 1X is a last gen refresh. Like I said believe what your own narrative I guess.

TheDoomedGuy151d ago (Edited 151d ago )

@lightning77
You should just look at the hardware. The base Xbox is vastly inferior to the one x and the one x in gram power is equivalent to the series s. Since all Xbox games are coming to PC they won't demand an SSD and therefore the one x would be able to run all the games at about the same output as the series s if not sometimes higher. Loading times will be a different story but that's it.

It's not my narrative. It's fact. And MS knows this hence why they were very quick to correct that they won't have next gen only games. People with some sense would've realized they didn't need to upgrade because of the series s. And funnily enough I do believe they stopped production of the one x at about the same time.

The one x was not a mid gen refresh it was a whole leap in the generation. Base Xbox was doing 900p or lower. One x was doing about 4k at higher fps. That's not a mid gen refresh. They went all out on the gpu power because most games are now developed with heavy vram usage.

I'm not saying that the one x will run next gen games because they're not going to be released on it. I'm saying it could run them.

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alb1899157d ago

I will play it on the SX. It is incredible what we are witnessing this generation and for free!!!

Hikoran157d ago

Do you not PAY for Gamepass?

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gamer7804157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

Many people don’t pay for gamespass. They do the trial then complete gamespass quests and/or Xbox rewards and redeem fo more gamespass.

alb1899157d ago

I bought the game, this update is Free.

CaptainHenry916157d ago

"Many people don’t pay for gamespass. They do the trial then complete gamespass quests and/or Xbox rewards and redeem fo more gamespass."

I don't pay month to month. I only pay when there's a game that I'm interested in and then I'll pay for a month. TBH I really been saving a lot of money doing it this way. I already played all the games I was interested in. If Halo infinite ends up good then I'll sign back up for a month to play the campaign.

Sayai jin157d ago

Think GP ruffles some feathers and not paying for upgrades is an issue for some. Even if the upgrades are to unlock or enable features you have already paid for.

DJStotty157d ago

@Hikoran

Pretty sure alb1899 is alluding to the next-gen upgrade being free, and literally nothing to do with gamepass, but a nice try i'll give you that

Popsicle156d ago

Purchased this game used for $9.99 a couple of weeks ago without knowing there would be an update. I am thrilled to see this is free!

randomvoice156d ago

I paid a buck over XBG which I got for cheap for 3 years. Been a great deal so far.

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TheDoomedGuy157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

Well to be quite frank this comes with the territory of upgrades. Better hardware gives better performance.

PC gamers experience this everytime they upgrade a gou/cpu

alb1899157d ago

They don't have to do it and is a job that have to be paid and we are getting it for free. Console don't work as PC.

Father__Merrin157d ago

One x was a beast console held back by cpu. Would have been great if series S was a rebadged one x but with zenncores

darthv72157d ago

in many ways... it is. It has the better cpu, and more efficient memory and gpu despite being lesser in terms of TF.

JackBNimble157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

People also seem to forget the ram is gddr6 in the ss not gddr5 like the xone.
This does make a difference even if it's less ram , there is more memory in gddr6 and it's faster.

Popsicle156d ago (Edited 156d ago )

@JackBNimble I get the update to Gddr6 which is more efficient, but the SS has 10gb versus the 1X 12gb of Gddr5 so doesn’t it pretty much become a wash. On a side note I see the 10gb of ram in the SS versus the 16 Gb in the Series X being a real issue for next gen games down the road.

I fully agree that the CPU and the SSD in the SS are a significant upgrade over the 1X which is why the Series S can get away with a lower clocked GPU since the 4TF can be utilized more efficiently. Though I still feel the S would benefit from at least similarly clocked GPU as the 1X. Especially if RT becomes standard during this gen. Although I guess they had to make cuts in certain places to keep the console affordable for the consumer. I’m sure Microsoft is already taking a reasonably significant loss on the sku as is.

It seems to me the CPU and SSD in the SS are the only real difference makers, but I am no expert and could be convinced otherwise by someone more educated on these issues.

randomvoice156d ago

The biggest problem is lower TF and 10GB RAM (down from 16GB from XSX). I know folks will come and say you don't need extra RAM since resolution isn't 4K, but having RAM parity means you could squeeze in higher resolution textures even on a lower res image which helps a lot. As the gen progresses, that 10GB is gonna show its age much faster than GPU limitations. I think they should have bumped the price by 50 bucks and thrown in the extra RAM and made the GPU at least 6TF like the One X. It would mean it was half as powerful as XSX at a 350 price point which is decent.

Phlacky157d ago

Just started my first play through in 120fps. Glad I waited this game out. I would have preferred the enhancements RT and 60fps, can't be playing in 30 anymore leaving that in last gen. Shame they couldn't hit 60 fps with RT like some PS5 games. Not saying 60 and RT is impossible on SX before fan boys start firing off.

Tacoboto157d ago

Oh yeah, they could've absolutely done a 60fps RT mode on the X, Dynamic 1440p I'd say.

Series S hits Full HD 30fps, that's enough proof for at least 1080p60.

Phlacky157d ago

Yes exactly and once 2k or even some 1080p upscale to 4k still looks incredible. I've been spoilt to much with Spiderman and R&C:RA not having to choose between a playable framerate and RT together.

Popsicle156d ago (Edited 156d ago )

1440p with RT and 60fps would definitely be the sweet spot for me with this game. Especially when upscaling tech is so good.

Edit: I can’t believe I am even saying this as I would have always chose native 4K 30fps until I finally came out of the dark ages this year and was able to experience 60fps more consistently. I never realized how much of a difference maker 60fps is until I began to experience it more regularly this gen. My eyes don’t really perceive a difference with games using dynamic 4K, but I definitely notice a difference when going from 60fps to 30fps.

darkrider157d ago

The One X is still a great machine. Anybody that got one of them should only jump to the Series X if they want a next gen microsoft console.

darthv72157d ago

I would have liked to have done it that way but I went with Series S (as it was what i could find). and i am not dissatisfied in any way. I keep the one X hooked up in another room to play but after being spoiled by the much faster load times on the SS... it makes it hard for me to fire up the one X.

I did the other day as i wanted to play some Jedi Fallen order. I had to move it off my internal SSD to an external hdd to make room for Flight sim. so if i wanted to play it on the SS, Id had to have moved flight sim off and put jedi back on but I then remembered i had it installed on my one x. And yeah after a few minutes i was back in and playing but man those load times just got to me.

I have since rectified my issue by getting the 1tb expansion for the SS. At some point i will retire the one x in favor of a SX but now is not that time.

darkrider157d ago

I think a good option is upgrading to SSD of the One X. For what ive seen on youtube and other news its much faster. On games like GTA5 it goes from 108 seconds to 60. Far Cry 5 from 115 to 75. Even powering up its much faster. For all that cant get a new console its a good option and the SSD for the One X is cheaper.

darthv72157d ago

^^I've thought about putting an ssd into the one x but now I dont really need to. I dont use it that much anymore since getting the SS. I will say that changing out the older drives for something newer is beneficial not just for this but older systems. I recently got the gdemu and that too makes a big difference in loading games to play on the DC.

Imortus_san157d ago

That's what I did, the Series X is very good looking kiet pice of hardware, that has tons o free next gen upgrades, glad I move on to play those upgrades and all new games that I decide to play.

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