Mark Cerny says he plans to use a WD_Black SN850 SSD in his PlayStation 5 to expand storage.
Cerny choice will be the choice for many! Hail Cerny.
Sony could use this as an endorsement or official seal of approval.
"Kid tested. Cerny Approved."
Those WD drives are fantastic. Keep running out of stock tho. That was before the PS5 test. Its gonna be wild now. Whoever is reading this, grab em quick.
@LordoftheCritics That's what I did. I got one from Newegg.
I've been having the same drive for months, minus the heatsink which came in today. I KNEW the wd sn850 would be a excellent drive.
Tech specs speak for themselves lol
I had the samsung 7k read speed drive for months now but my regular ssds work fine for games and i didnt even install it yet. 15 seconds pc restart times are fine enough. Maybe i will install the drive at some point havent had a reason yet.
Sb: for the first time in my gaming life (30+ years), I am experiencing drift with my controller. My dual sense of all things. Anyone knows if you can ship them to Sony and if they fix them for free?
Go to Playstation site and go through support. I've shipped my launch PS3 and a DS4 to them, only had to pay shipping on the DS4 to get it to them, was like $5, everything else was free. And your controller has a seperate warranty from your console, so it's covered by itself.
There is a mandatory 12 month warranty on just about anything these days from the date of purchase. Here in Australia the A.C.C.C. would essentially force the hand of the manufacturer to replace the item at fault. Note, I'm not aiming this at Sony at all, I'm just offering a suggestion of support that you can find in, I would think, any country. I have had replaced 2 budget tv's over my 40+ years as they both failed within a year. The best of luck no matter the outcome.
OT much? Why would you ask this in a random comments section instead of just starting with the manufacturer and the warranty process?
Is it from playing Cyberpunk? That's the game that gave me controller drift. And it appears to have happened to quite a few people.
@unself on the back of your controller is the reset button. Use a needle or pin to get to it. I had same issue about 3 weeks after getting my ps5 and that corrected the issue. Hope this helps
You also could buy the stick seperately and fix it your self if you don't want to deal with mailing it and getting it fixed at Sony.
Yeah, you're obviously still under warranty. Drift is a problem I had with PS4 numerous times, but so far so good with PS5. You're incredibly lucky to have never experienced drift in 30 years, it's an annoying and very common issue. Weird that no one has thought of a solution to this problem yet. @thorstein Wait what? Games can cause drift? How is that even possible? I thought it was a mechanical issue.
@thorstein Nah but ive been playing tons of Cold War which is where i noticed it happening. @Pheonix tried that. Nothing. @elvis. Yeah since Nintendo and have never ever experienced it. My closest friends go through it all the time but i guess my luck finally ran out. Thanks everyone. Will ship tomorrow
WD owe Sony big time for this. their sales will be off the charts after this
Wait, what did I miss? Why are people on his dick?
Thats all I wanted to hear, ill also get this one if I decide to upgrade my storage. I remember mark cerny saying sony will put out a list of compatible drives. Well we got one officially now.
I want to say one of the Aorus SSDs was approved too
Cause Seagate did it for ms , Cerny said I should try something else , I'm not that stupid to think other brands can't do the same s .
Personally, why I upgrade, I'd only use a manufacturer's suggestion when upgrading something that goes inside or plugs into it. I'm NOT saying Seagate wouldn't work or isn't as good, but am saying any potential list of drives to use (in this case/topic) I'd pick from if the manufacturer provided a list.
I get what you mean except this isn't a manufacturers suggestion. This is the opinion of, the man, the myth, the legend, Mark Cerny himself. It's quite possible Sony never even releases a list of suggested/recommended drives at all. They never have. They only post the requirements for swapping or in this case, adding storage to the PS.
$250 For this SSD is a hard pill to swallow but I'm tired of deleting games so I guess if this drive is good Enough for Mark the it's good enough for me.
You can get it without a heatsink for $199 right now and buy a heatsink off amazon for $8 saving you about $40 and less than XSX option.
How do you know that the heatsink you get for 8 dollars will cool the drive properly? Or will it even fit in the playstation? There's a reason why Sony is putting an approved list of drives together.
@JayRyu - except this isn't some approved list or device from Sony and I doubt they will ever post such a list. They have always just posted requirements for replacing or in this case, requirements for expanded storage. End of the day this is the personal choice of Mark Cerny, not an endorsement by PS. There is a major difference. However I do agree about fitting or working properly, etc. I'd rather have the drive and heatsink that are known to fit & work bundled together. I'll pay the extra couple bucks for whatever drive w/ heatsink long as they meet the requirements listed by Sony. I don't want to spend the additional time digging into heat sinks and which ones are good, which ones fit, etc. Really at the end of the day what's another $30-ish when you've already dropped $500 on the console and now another $200-250 to expand storage. That being said I rarely play more than one game and 99.8% of the time don't move along until that game is finished so I haven't yet felt the need to upgrade. Plus, I think, almost half of what I've played this year I've Platinumed so there's no reason to go back at this point. Past generations I've overspent on upgrading the hard drive on my PS3 and PS4 so I'll wait until the prices come down. Or once prices come down on 2TB+ if I can hold off that long.
Good move on Sony for not going proprietary on the storage solution. As more of these ps5 compatible ssds from different companies makes it to the market, the price will eventually drop. Unlike the proprietary direction where one company controls the price
You can get that one company's drive on newegg and other places regularly for 180 bucks.
That one company's internal SSD and Proprietary drive combined get you an extra 250+ GB and costs less? Hmm. I guess it's Better to trade all that extra storage space and not save any money for 2-3 second faster load times on 12 of 20 ports of 3rd party games instead.
How tf is anyone downvoting this? Competition WILL bring prices down. Hell just use an Amazon price tracker to look at compatible SSDs. Ever since the firmware beta news prices have gone up because of demand or even sold out. This is basic 101 market economics for you people. Now, granted, MS has said they would open up their storage to other manufacturers, but we're 9 months into the console lifecycle and nada. Given the much slower SSD there is no reason it should be at comparable prices to PS5 level storage, but it is.
Ya everyone leaves out how overpriced the series expansion cards are when comparing the two solutions. Fact is these new drives are more than double the speed, new tech vs old.
9 months in on a console that barely anyone owns yet. You still cant walk in stores and buy any of them
of course it will. And fast. Sony market share is huge and it will sell millions and millions. There will be huge competition to get the biggest share of the sales - lower price. Monopoly isnt ever the best solution, because they sell the price they want, just like now where its expensive for old tech.
"MS has said they would open up their storage to other manufacturers, but we're 9 months into the console lifecycle and nada." I believe it is because Seagate has the lock on expansion cards for the first year. After that it is open to any mfg who wants to make one. So soon there will be competition in both prices and capacity.
While I agree that it is a good move to stay away from proprietary, it would be nice if they presented a more "elegant" solution. Say what you will about the MS solution, expensive yes, but very straightforward and easy to use. Sony should have known that there is no way that the provided SSD space would be enough, everyone else did. I'm guessing it is too late for Sony to come up with any kind of "plug and play" design at this point. My hope is that someday the MS expansions will come down in price so that they will at least be a reasonable solution for the Xbox people. I would say that the fact that they have chosen to make the tech proprietary makes that much less likely. Really a fumble by both companies.
The same drive I use in my PC. I just wish it had a 4TB version
$250. That's kinda crazy, no?
It is lol. Seems storage is going back up, I'm assuming that ssds with sony's "seal of approval" will come with a premium if they ever decide to do that.
$30 more than Microsoft's proprietary offering. Not ideal but at least it's not some hokey card.
What does hokey mean in this instance? Tad bit slower? Way cheaper? Offers more useable storage space? Easier to install and use? Oh wait. You're talking about negligible/almost equivalent load times. That's worth 30 bucks and less space.
@Kavor Tad bit slower? WAY cheaper? More Space? Are you kidding me? 2.4 vs 5.5 is in no way a 'tad bit slower'. This is Cerny's personal choice as someone who makes likely hundreds of thousands a year. As many have pointed out there are literally drives on the market ALREADY cheaper than Xbox's solution, and competition will only bring that figure lower over time. They're all 1tb btw so idk wtf you're on. I'll grant you easier, but I've literally replaced batteries on childrens' toys that required more effort than the PS5 ssd.
Thats like saying the series X is a tad more powerful than the Series S. Its going to be fun to see your reaction when we get deeper into the hardware later on. The ssd speed is going to be a much bigger advantage than tflops ever were in a gen. Get those hits in while you can.
@Kavor The word your little fanboy mind is struggling to locate is PROPRIETARY.
@Mr Logic "2.4 vs 5.5 is in no way a 'tad bit slower'." And yet we barely see any difference in load times and every game that is possible to develop on PS5 is also possible on XSX/XSS. Sony could've gone with a PCIe 3 drive like MS, but offered non-proprietary options. Then the drive prices would've been very low... $100 for 1TB and $50 for 500gb.
@Orchard yeah, while they are at it, why not just use SATA SSD, which are WAYYY cheaper, right? /s there is no winning for Sony with the likes of you! if they go the cheaper route, you would be trolling them for doing it and how they cheap out on things and how MS is still doing it better. the question you should be asking is why is MS charging $220 for 1TB of basically a Gen3 speed SSD in 2021?
@badz Well that just isn’t true - I give Sony, MS and Nintendo props when they do something well and criticism when they do things wrong. None of them are perfect. A sata SSD would obviously not be a feasible solution - but right now, what benefit are we seeing from gen 4? A couple of seconds? It’s not worth the extra expense. Neither company is really handling the expandable storage situation great. Xbox is expensive and PS5 is still expensive and complicated. They’ve both over-engineered the solution to what could’ve been a simple story.
I dont know where everyone shops but I only paid $160 for my series s expansion card. And it used to be "proprietary" carried with it a specific aspect... it was guaranteed to work. At least this time around the expansion cards are priced within the realm of reality to what their capacity is. Unlike the old days of the pricey 360 hard drives. MS was dumb for that move but then again it was different people in charge who only cared about $$$ As for performance, sure the series is slower than ps5 but the real world difference isnt being seen because the game data is read from memory. It is only loaded into memory from the drive and load times are very negligible between the two. Ive seen series load faster in some games, and ps5 load faster in others. Regardless... both are doing a way better job than their predecessors. So its kind of pointless to squabble over a couple of seconds.
Thank the current chip shortage for that.
SSD prices have nothing to do with the chip shortage. NVME SSD prices are this price because its still fairly new for the industry. 1tb sata SSD's are half the cost of NVME SSD's.
Yeah but you have options. You can get the same SSD for $199 right now and buy a heatsink off amazon for $8.
These things can't cost that much to manufacture. I'll wait
all those Gen4 drives with 7000MB/s speed are still expensive now because they just came out recently. that slower MS propriety SSD though...1TB for $220 retail? that's the definition of rip-off!
Price seems decent to me for the spec. Also highlights how good value the PS5 is. The PS5 SSD memory stretches further than the Series X also as the games files are smaller.
How many games are really that much smaller? Sure I've seen a few examples, but it's not by much usually, or across the board by any means. Is there a list somewhere that shows them? I am kinda curious to see how many games really are reduced in file size, and how many titles in total thus far are reduced on one machine vs another. Not that I really care but it would be cool to see all the data and compare the two.
I've been pretty happy with my WD SSDs on PC, if/when I do buy expanded storage for PS5, it'll probably be WD.
I'm gonna hold out till i can get a 2tb for about $150. Might be a while but i'm patient 🤷♂️
PCIe 5th Gen will be supported next year so PCIe4 should drop in price considerably . It’s only a matter of time .
Amazon here I come!!
Crazy how people were ripping MS for the cost of the extra storage but every PS5 compatible drive so far are more expensive. Competition will eventually bring cost down but that's EVENTUALLY. The price won't be dropping in a few months because it's new tech.
Dude, the SSD on the Series X isnt next gen. Its not new tech, It was already availabe. The SSD on the PS5 is getting available just now. Its brand new tech. The speed diference is huge.
None of these SSDs are exactly new. We were just waiting for Sony to approve which ones we could use in the system after unlocking the drive. But that's not the point I was making. The fact that now everyone seems to be okay to spend 250 for expanded storage on PS5 (with all the speed) but 220 dollars was too much for the Series X|S expansion. Also these drives with heatsinks built in wouldn't be cheaper any time soon. next year maybe.
Awesome, looks like I bought the right one.
I just looked again after Cerny made the announcement on the WD SSD. The same one that I paid $400 plus is now listed at $800. 😲😲😲
I have the WD Black 500GB NVME SSD in my PC now, the speeds are incredible. I wonder if they will launch an app for PS5 for monitoring the SSD. For PC, WD has cool software that will show you how it's performing, it's health, and can tweak some advanced settings to get the most out of it. Also, the heatsink was worth the extra money, really keeps the temperatures down and keeps it safe.
Shop around that’s a reseller .
Yeah, I got mine on Amazon when it was marked down.
@Seraphim What's up Thank you for the discussion and not acting like some who just hurl fanboy rants and argument! Sony should have a list of approved drives. If not this will make the choosing a expansion solution even more complicated. When Mark Cerny the architect of the system itself doesn't say this is Sony endorsed product but nods in the direction of hardware it wouldn't be the best move to go the other way with another drive. I mean you certainly have the option to but.....
Get a xbox with gamepass sony is trash ....xbox 808 gigs of ssd sony 600 gigs ...xbox easy access to extra memory ....sony well read this article .....xbox ecosystem with Microsoft and partners are second to none ...xbox not charging for upgrade updates ...sony the ghost of 10 dollars ....sony will not be able to withstand the title waves of ULTIMATE GAMEPASS...My backwards compatible game list makes ps5 a straight laughing stock...i truly can keep going ....like xbox has better specs....but i have to stop .....i have to go play outriders flight simulator and MLBTHESHOW21 ON ULTIMATE GAMEPASS ....SONY IS TRASH AND THEY ROB GAMERS FOR THEIR MONEY SMH