Microsoft announced its financial results for Q4 of the fiscal year 2021, related to the period between April 1, 2021, and June 30.
Playing Flight Simulator on Series X right now. I have a feeling I am going to be spending some cash on this. It looks fantastic!
what like £70? Like i did on a physical copy of Ratchet and Clank?
It is free on Gamepass, and even outside of Gamepass is only £59.99. https://www.xbox.com/en-gb/... Xbox does not do £70 games like the competition
@DJStotty No instead they fill it with microtransactions - $30 for one plane, $10 for 'enhanced' graphics on airports etc. So much better right? https://twitter.com/Durrtyd...
Uhhhh no. Microsoft set up that store for independent creators to develop and get paid for their work for flight sim. The vast majority of the things on that store or made by 3rd party peeps
@ReadyPlayer22 Fair enough my bad, I didn't realise it was user generated content.
@DJStotty. Nice PR. You forgot microtransactions. Also, Activision and 2K were the first who raised the prices. So, are they competition, Xbox fan. Btw. 70$ game in US was around 62 GBP in UK ( like for Demon's Souls for example ). So, Flight Simulator is in territory of 70$ game in UK.
@gravedigger $70 US price is £70 in the UK. Look at R&C for example, a 10 hour game for £69.99 vs £59.99 for a game people will play for months and don't need any micro transactions for. Who got the better deal?
No worries, respect admitting the mistake
@Chris12 Quote : @gravedigger $70 US price is £70 in the UK. Look at R&C for example, a 10 hour game for £69.99 vs £59.99 for a game people will play for months and don't need any micro transactions for. Who got the better deal? Agree ..... It isn't. Demon's wasn't 69 GPB. Here is the price history in UK. 63 GBP at most ( similar Ratchet was too ). Also 60$ for Nintendo games is 50 GBP in UK ( like Zelda BOTW ). https://pricespy.co.uk/game... Like i've said, looks like Flight Simulator is in 70$ territory. EOD. Btw. people will play Flight Simulator for months? LOL They won't, even if it is on Gamepass.
Gravedigger It was £69.99 on the ps Store. Even now as it’s on sale it has the £69.99 price crossed out indicating that is its original price
@gravedigger I was using the official price, just like you. There are always cheaper deals but Sony is charging £69.99. And you can childishly lol all you like, but sim type games are often played for months, even years. That's the attraction of the game type.
Xbox sales were very low a year ago.
@dj 👀 you serious?🤣 It's £109 for the full game, the cheaper options lose premium airports and planes, how's that any better? Infact it's worse lol, also, its not just a 3rd party marketplace for those saying that, asobo also have individual dlc for sale..... I guess you were right, xbox don't £70 games, they do £60 games with content taken out🤷♂️
This news pleases me
Why are people assuming that 3rd party games are doomed on Xbox due to a 4% drop on profit? Game delays and the long-term attachment rates of specific franchises to Xbox need to be taken in consideration. Also, PlayStation has double the user base of Xbox. Besides, Gamepass would probably affect 1st party sales more than 3rd party sales. It is likely not cost effective for MS or its 3rd party partners to launch big budget AAA games on Gamepass.
Seems gp is hurting 3 party sales on the platform. Also, no profits, no gp install base update and no units sold? Just seems odd to me.
How do you get that? 3rd party game sales will do one of three thing each quarter as compared to the previous year... 1) Go up 2) Go Down 3) Stay the same They don't always go up so they could go down or stay the same. Also, with a lot of people bought new hardware with this new generation, so they don't have as much to spend on games. Therefore, it is quite logical that game sales go down. Finally, I wouldn't say this past year saw a lot of epic third party games. Most 3rd party games were developed on game engines from last generation that were very mature. There are a lot of things that affect 3rd party game sales. gamepass isn't the only thing. And it is not like gamepass is new. it has been out for years.
For me I came to the conclusion by asking myself “if I take GP out of the equation would they still see that same decline?” They just had mlb the show for the 1st time in Xbox history. MLB the show is filled with microtransactions but was on GP. They just had It Takes Two, yet they saw a 4% decline from 3rd party? What are people playing on the console, it can’t be just 1st party games. Let’s see if Sony and Nintendo had a decline in a few weeks. We will know for sure.
Went down 4% during a pandemic where everyone is at home? That speaks volumes imo.
Looks at 1 set of numbers... calls GP harmful!
I have a Xbox Series X and thats all that matters to me.
Xbox Series X|S is Microsoft’s fastest selling console yet they still refuse to give official numbers Come on
The Xbox One was also it's fastest selling console as well, having outpaced the 360 by one million in the same time frame. I'm curious to see if the Series S/X can keep up the pace.
1million more isn't great considering the Xbox one launch and fiasco going down as the worst launch in console history. Obviously pandemic will have been a factor of course but 1m extra is anything to go bragging about imo but there certainly going in the right direction this gen compared to the abysmal xbox one
Xbox One was the fastest selling Xbox console for 3.5 years I’m certain Xbox Series can keep up the pace
And then it went on to sell less than the 360.
Indeed it did just like how PS4 will sell less than PS2 I’m saying Xbox Series X|S has a better chance at keeping the pace of fastest selling Xbox console longer than its predecessor
Playsation has just hit 10m and ps5 has sold 2-1 over series S/X since launch every single week/month so I'd say about 4million
@ Ever Xbox 360 & Xbox One had sold more than 4 million at this point. Estimates have Xbox Series at 6.5 million
Q4 tends to be lower than the other quarters of the year. Q3 content and services where up 34% yoy for exanple. Q1 should be up big in comparison with the new releases
Thanks to whoever recommended yakuza way of the dragon to me, I don’t remember the user. That shit is hilarious so far and I wouldn’t have tried it without gamepass.
Like a Dragon was terrific
microtransactions up 172% new game releases Down 4% phil interviews up 11%
Salt sales up by 350%
1. Every MP game today has some sort of microtransaction ... or what does Microsoft differently, so that it bothers you so much? 2. Nothing grow forever. 3. Silent "Ryan" is better? No information whatsoever what's going on in the company or with games.
So even with a new console launch and all the gamepass is the future is the industry talk, they still are declining? Am I reading that right?
Obviously you have not learned to read... 3rd Party game sales down 1st Party game sales and GamePass more then offset it Hardware sales were way up All seem pretty normal. Hardware up because they are selling $500 devices vs $300 devices and the excitment of a new gen. 1st party up because they added Bethesda.... GamePass is up because more subscribers came on with Bethesda. 3rd party game sales down because we were early in a new gen and 3rd party games are still using the last gen engines so people weren't as excited. Also, people buying expensive new hardware leaves less for them to buy 3rd party games.
@therapeutichawk I am just speaking based on my experience. I would normally have bought more games the past year, but when I looked at the shipping games I felt there wasn't enough innovation to justify buying the games until they are much more discounted. I have a ton of backlog and just felt buying hardware was more important then me buying games. I ended up buying the new hardware because of the faster drives. I spent about $3,000 between PS5's and XB Series consoles (Bought more then one of each + accessories). After doing that I felt enough was spent and the games weren't compelling enough to push me to buy them day one. Also both new consoles are BC, so I didn't feel a burning need to go out and get the latest games. It is not about how many games were shipped, it is about how many people bought games.
"Am I reading that right?" of cause not. The 4% decrease is the growth rate, not the actual money value. It means MS is making money 4% slower then last quarter, not losing money. Remember, there were not that many big 3rd party games released between April to June (Outrider & MLB the Show 21).
No. 4% decrease compared to last year. They always compare year on year. Remember, we were in a pandemic last year and gaming revenue went way up.
Microsoft make $15-$20 BILLION profit per quarter. I think they'll be alright.
Where is the data required to measure these statements? MS pretend that people just believe in them by faith while providing zero data? Man up and show your data MS. Always hidding in the shadows ashamed of their sales.
This is for shareholders. Pretty sure they're legally obligated to provide valid data.
I think there is potential for Game Pass to work well for MS, customers and developers, but it is going to disrupt the system and there will be some losers. It seems like common sense that 3rd party developers will lose some sales to Game Pass, either way. If they participate, they will often lose the sale of the original game, as it is available for "free" on GP. Of course they do get the opportunity to "advertise" their game to all of the GP subs and potentially sell them add-ons or MT's. It would seem that GP customers would be more likely to make this investment as they don't have as much money invested in the game. Of course the game does not stay on GP forever and there will be another opportunity to sell the game when it is eventually removed from GP. There will be additional incentive to do this for those who have invested in DLC. Will those additional revenue streams make up for the original loss of sales, probably depends on the situation. That leaves it to the developer to make a choice. For the most part, choices are good. As with any new method of distribution, it takes time to figure out how everyone is going to get paid, but it usually gets figured out eventually. If not the model is a failure and we move on to something else. This is tech folks, it changes!!
Its so embarassing reading all these comments, from what i assume are grown men and women arguing about percentages from a billion dollar company to try to justify their choice of console.
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