The Steam Deck is impressive, but it could be made even more of a "must-buy" if it were to include Valve's take on the Xbox Game Pass model.
Subservices are not ideal,
Gamepass is rubbish and is needed for Xbox because a lot of people don't want to buy Xbox games. It's not something that is needed when gamers are willing to buy quality games. Xbox consoles are always on sale and Microsoft have been giving away multiple games at massive discounts for years to try to stay relevant. Steam doesn't need to give games away for free because it's current platform is very successful
@Deity - yes, any day PlayStation will release their version of "GamePass"... any day Now
@deitylink Big difference in having a subscription service, of which Sony already has by the way, and being your star of your offerings. Microsoft is like your Redbox’s and Sony is like your Disney+… You know.: Microsoft mainly offers basically what everyone has while Sony still has the amusement parks, movies, tv shows etc..
Gamepass is the best gaming subscription on the market, and gets quality titles added to it on the regular. You're just a MS hater lol. They're far from irrelevant in the gaming market; Gamepass or no gamepass.
@deitylink Sony said they'd reveal their response to gamepass, not their own version of gamepass. That response could be any number of things to make their value proposition more compelling. It doesnt mean that theyre automatically going to release a competing subscription service. PS Now may not be as objectively good value as gamepass, but it already represents good value and is a decent subscription based service.
@Ted It still doesn't mean that subservices are ideal. To me, ideal would be you buy the game, then you play it on or offline, even more ideal would be DRM free. I know I am in the minority here but Steam is my least desired platform for PC gaming. Sometimes I am forced to use it, but never by choice. So an extra subservice on a DRM machine, is double no for me. I am curious to see how long the Deck will be around, though.
Did Microsoft shit in your cereal or something? Plenty of people buy Xbox games as is evident from steam sales, Xbox games are regularly in the top 10.
Lets be honest here, if MS didn't offer gamepass, there would be no point in purchasing a series s/x to begin with. This gamepass is just to create the illusion that they have plenty of games for you to play when in fact they have nothing new to offer but backwards compatibility. On a side note, steam deck doesn't need a gamepass offering. anyone that has a steam account already has games to play on it, plus the sales that happen often are great.
I don't think every platform needs a service like game pass, why can't they all just do their own thing and be successful at it? DeityLink Sure let me know when Sony puts their Blockbuster games on a service day one for 10 bucks a month Hanke So I'm guessing you were not here when Xbox 360 was leading the market. The biggest install base always have more fans what is so complicated about it. PlayStation has more than twice then install base of Xbox so they will have more gamers active on gaming sites and social media. And this narrative that PlayStation runs this side or that side and they dictate that's just absurd. Because over the past three to six months PlayStation has received a lot of negative attention and articles on this side alone so we need to stop with this narrative that Xbox fans are being trashed or held back by PlayStation fans Ted You forgot to add in your opinion because that is not a factual statement.
"You forgot to add in your opinion because that is not a factual" Nah. I'm pretty sure if you surveyed the average gamer, they'd say that Gamepass offers the most bang for your buck. My opinion is that Humble is the next in line.
Speak for yourself bud. I would gladly for all access to the Steam Library, I would gladly pay a subscription fee. Heck I would even pay a subscription fee for %50 access to the Steam library. I don't think you understand how big of a library Steam has. Steam has over 50,000 games in it's library spanning multiple generations. No other store can even come close!!!
I'll take Valve's model of free connectivity and ridiculous sales. Or load in Epic who give away games free with no strings attached (besides feeling dirty inside). Take your money from a year of game pass, wait for a sale and go ham without worrying about subscriptions gating your solo play or online gaming. You will soon have a multiple lifetime backlog of games for less than a couple Xbox/PS+ sub years. Oh and play ES6 and Starfield day one because Steam has Xbox games (and Sony games)
Some Sony games, but I agree with the rest. Steam has a ton of games and the best sales multiple times a year for sure.
You gotta admit though. A subscription service to access thousands of games on Steam would be major. I think if Steam came out with a subscription service it potentially kill Gamepass on PC. Their are thousands upon thousands of more games on Steam compared to Gamepass.
What is with all these god awful articles trying so hard to downplay the Steam Deck? It's a portable PC that prioritizes access to the best library of digital games on the internet. It doesn't need additional hardware gimmicks, predatory game subscription models, or any other garbage.
I wonder whether half of them are written by actual gamers
Newsflash! The Gamepass model is NOT the future. Even on a pure business standpoint it's a poor decision.
Nah keep it open like it is. There are too many subscription services as it is, and Steam always has crazy deals.
I mean they could have one. But I don't think it's necessary for its core audience. As those already have Steam libraries in the hundreds or sometimes thousands.
Ram GamePass up your backside and stick PS Now and EA Play up there with it. Steam and PC gaming in general are fine exactly the way they are.
As a PC gamer, Gamepass is fantastic. People are trying titles they wouldn't have otherwise. Smaller studios are claiming they're selling better because of the service. It's a win-win across the board.
Not everyone can afford a loss leader program like game pass. Valve are more interested in expanding what a gaming PC form factor can be. They already sell oodles of games on Steam.
Sheeeet, now we've got down to Gamepass begging have we. Aren't the free games Epic, steam & co give out enough or are we so self-entitled that we demand even more for less. I think Steam deck, along with Steam itself, will get on quite nicely without a 'gamepass' as it has done for all these years. Yuck, this story makes me feel sick at the greed and want some people have.
"Greed" You mean the deals that these companies - something typically only doing what they do to make as much money as possible - are choosing to do of their own accord? Paying for a service that offers you games isn't "free" by the way. Using it also doesn't make you "entitled". You're "entitled" to a service you pay for.
Why are people so eager to take up yet another subscription.
If it justifies its cost, what's the damage as a consumer?
I like how the article mentions that neither Sony or Nintendo are working on their won subscription services. Are we just flat out pretending that PS Now doesn't even exist now?
As one of the few who actually pay into PS Now, it's a pretty weak service; which I'm getting rid of come next year. Nothing but shovelware, and exclusives that can be had for less than $20 at gamestop.
Ps now really doesnt exist like the vita didnt tbh
Why would Steam Deck require anything remotely like a 'game pass' when Steam repeatedly has some of the best sales you can find on an regular basis? Not only that, but all marketplaces are open to you, from GOG to Origen to uPlay to CD Keys.
People already have the games. I have 400 games in my steam library why i will need a game pass? This is Bullshit, maybe someone can use this but is not a big deal to sell the steam deck!
The best thing about PC gaming is that we DON'T have to pay any subscription fees. * Steam sale games are cheaper than consoles (especially Nintendo Switch) * Online multiplayer services are free * Most old games still just work, no need for backwards compatibility * Owned games are not removed from player's libraries if the game is removed from the store for licensing reasons * Many players already have huge game libraries I acknowledge however that a Steam Pass may be of interest to those new to Steam and PC gaming but want to ensure we don't rock the boat and lose the status quo on the above points.
Nah, SteamSales are already fantastic, and you actually get to keep the game afterwards. GaaS is bait and switch trash.
You really don't want gamepass on Steam, because it not only costs out of pocket which is something only a company like MS could do, but also it conflicts with business deals MS has with Valve. They would just stop releasing their games on Steam if Valve pulled this stunt. Besides, Valve actually makes games people will pay up for day 1, what good does devaluing their talent and work do for PC gaming?
Epic games does it for free, so shouldn't be too difficult. Dev's want to sell that dlc.
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