The Nintendo Switch has a new competitor in the market it stood alone in for the last few years, but it offers something the Steam Deck can't.
I like Nintendo Switch and the detachable Joy-Cons. There’s a reason Switch is nearing 100 million sales. People buy Nintendo hardware to play Nintendo games. I like that they’re finally moving to an OLED display but there’s no denying the internals are severely outdated. Then again Nintendo hasn’t chases specs since N64.
I feel exactly opposite about everything you just said. I am sick of Nintendo catering to cartoon games, milking their IP while turning their backs on a majority market of gamers. I also think the joy con are horribly uncomfortable, clumsy and rarely have I ever removed them from the system. I think the Switch is great if you like cartoon Nintendo games.. for the rest of the 90% of the gaming market, it fails. The reason it has sold so well is b/c its hugely popular with kids, families and casual gamers... just like how Disney cartoons will always outsell other movies etc. but I'm not a casual gamer, nor do I want a casual portable gaming experience.
Oh god stop the elitist bs. A game isn’t “casual” because it’s cartoony. Some of the greatest games of the generation live on Nintendo consoles. I love playing the Switch on the tv and then effortlessly taking it out when my wife wants to watch something.
Your pretty late if you feel like that now. Nintendo been doing their own thing since the Wii. And I'm happy they're doing their own thing, I have my Xbox for high end and Nintendo for it's uniqueness. Wouldn't be good for the industry for Nintendo to follow suite with Sony and Xbox.
z2g That's absurd man how can they not cater to majority and sell 100+ million? Steam deck will be lucky to sell fraction of that Ever since steam deck people are downplaying switch but reality is Nintendo has one of the strongest brands This is coming from someone who hasn't bought a Nintendo console since SNES. But fact is their IP's are some of the most well known in entertainment not just gaming Ever since steam deck it's been nothing but hate towards switch. Both can be successful doing their own thing I would happily buy a Nintendo console if they actually gave respectable specs and don't charge absurd amount for everything
good thing you speak for all of us, lol
I agree with you from looking at the sales numbers difference of just these few games. Astral Chain Octopath Traveler Animal Crossing Pokemon Sword and Shield Zelda BOTW would probably not sell with the casual market, but would sell well with both gamers and kids.
90% of the market doesn't like cartoony games? Just judging by the Switch's sales, I'd say it's closer to 40% or more. Not to mention that the recent sales success of Ratchet and Clank on the PS5 suggests that a significant portion of Sony's market don't mind cartoony graphics either. Also, I think I need to point out that casual gamers are everywhere, and play a pretty wide variety of games. They're on every system, and they represent the majority of the gaming market. Nintendo is one of the few companies still making "gamey" games. That sort of pick up and play fun that you don't really have to think about. They offer something Sony and Microsoft do not. For that reason there's always gonna be a market for their games and systems.
Lmao, this is such a shitty post (and it having so many upvotes tells us how dismal the state of this community is_
90% of the gaming market is casuals. How do you think Fortnite, Minecraft, Pokemon and Mario bring in cash for their publishers? Get with the times.
Na they stopped chasing specs after the GameCube. It was the second most powerful console at its time only held back by disc storage. After that they just released a barley upgraded console with motion controls then released the Wii U which was already horribly outdated.
Okay, fine. Explain Wii U
People didn't know what it was
@Zeref Why does that matter? They know it's a Nintendo and the name Nintendo sells itself, because people buy the console to play Nintendo games. Or are you guys already backpedaling....?
I bought a Nintendo switch to collect dust. At first I thought i bought it to play Nintendo games, but realistically I try not kid myself. I like knowing my switch is sitting in a draw not being used and collecting dust. Nintendo games can be great. But a lot this gen just feel like rehash of older games but in HD. I'm curious on Botw 2 and the pokemon diamond remake.
The only advantage are the games from nintendo. You can only play them on the Switch.
Yup, that’s why I need both
Switch emulation has been a thing for awhile now.
I mean do tell how many people actually use that over using an actual switch. Because people keep bringing up emulation and don’t realize that the number of people that use it are only a fraction of the actual switch user base.
Most switch games are not compatible with emulators as of today and according to the emulator compatibility list on their site.
@StonieWylder Why does that matter? The option is there, that's what's important. It's possible and people do it. How many actually do is completely irrelevant when the argument is you can only play them on the switch, which is in fact false. @Vx_ Actually a majority are playable just from Yuzu alone, with many also being perfect in compatibility. https://yuzu-emu.org/game/
The first half of the argument is: “The only advantage are the games from nintendo“ which are indeed tied to the number of the user base. Because if the user base for the steam deck is anything like the steam machines they pumped out years ago, then it’s gonna flop. The steam deck just doesn’t have that dedicated user base like Nintendo does and that’s a fact.
@shiire2u Not many blue’s in that list. Many don’t even boot.
@StonieWylder It hasn't even released yet. Userbase is completely irrelevant to the Deck's hardware capabilities, the option to play switch games on your Deck is already there. It's a device that runs a Linux OS, that you can also install Windows to. Hell there's even a Linux version of Yuzu. A userbase doesn't stop this from already being a reality. What about this is so difficult for you to understand? Unless you're purposefully being myopic. @CyberSentinel Keyword playable.
The user base is relevant as the quoted argument is all Nintendo has as an advantage is just Their exclusives. So yes user base is relevant as they have a massive user base in comparison which is their largest advantage here, not just their games. So please base this ignorant argument somewhere else.
are we encouraging piracy now?
@Neonridr The quoted argument is regarding games not userbase, dipshit. Userbase has nothing to do with the already existing software. Me buying a Deck, and installing Yuzu isn't gonna hit some invisible wall related to "userbase" that's going to stop me from playing Switch games on my Deck. There is no longer an advantage as I'm now playing my Switch games on something other than a Switch. @Neonridr Emulation isn't piracy, this has been established legally for years. Downloading ROMs of what you don't already own is.
And the one I’m quoting is, yet again for the lack of reading comprehension from you: The only advantage are the games from nintendo. You can only play them on the Switch Which that is not the only advantage. So yes, keep touting the ignorant comments.
@StonieWylder And as I stated before it's irrelevant. You're trying to tie games to the userbase, which in this case isn't an advantage anyway, as it doesn't matter when the argument is about games and the simple fact you can play switch games on other devices other than the Switch. How dense are you?
“You're trying to tie games to the userbase, which in this case isn't an advantage anyway“ Boy if that doesn’t spell ignorance on how consoles work then I don’t know what would. Why do you think consoles and their exclusive sell so much on said consoles instead of emulation being bigger? Because of the userbase. If the userbase didn’t exist neither of those would excel and be successful. I have quoted what I’m arguing against and you keep looking stupid trying to thumb around it. So again take the ignorant argument somewhere else man.
@StonieWylder None of what you said has ANYTHING, ANYTHING to do with games being playable on anything but the switch, you know, THE ORIGINAL ARGUMENT that I responded to by bringing up emulation, which negates their argument. "The only advantage are the games from nintendo. You can only play them on the Switch." - "Switch emulation has been a thing for awhile now." None of this makes your userbase comment even remotely relevant. Seriously, see a neurologist.
You responded to this quote: The only advantage are the games from nintendo. You can only play them on the Switch And I referenced it not being the only advantage. If you’re too narrow minded and keep swinging away from what’s in the quote to fit your agenda shows how narrow minded you are. So nothing here is negated just because you’re ignoring part of the quote. And I’ll post the part you’re ignoring: “The only advantage are the games from nintendo.” So again, ignorance.
@StonieWylder That's because the majority of n4g doesn't have a gaming PC, and based on the prior Steam Deck article about 30fps games the majority of n4g has absolutely no idea on specs / performance, and have no clue on how to even get the emulator up and running. I've seen so many people claim to have gaming PCs on here, yet when one of the most basic articles came out about performing the overwhelming majority were sprouting nonsense, and had no idea what they were talking about. How many people have it is unknown, but there are millions who are aware based it exist based on YouTube views. The amount of users doesn't take away from those who want to use it and get better performance than the Native hardware could ever imagine or even intended.
@Shiore2u minds well just buy a actual switch , instead of having to deal with all the BS that comes with emulation.
Not on a 15W APU. It might handle Wii-U but not Switch gaming.
That’s hardly the only advantage.
the thing this article claims is a positive is the switch's biggest negative in my opinion. I want a portable gaming system that plays real AAA games with good multiplayer support. I like a Mario or Zelda game once in a while, but almost every game that comes out on switch feels oriented to children or is some cutesy version of something else. I want to play real, regular games and I want those games to not be gimped down to crap fidelity with tons of work arounds and compromises to play multiplayer. The Switch is painful to play games like Doom etc on.
actually I was surprised how easy it was to play Doom and Wolfenstein on the Switch on the go.
Table top mode? Lmao!
"There's even a chance the Steam Deck could end up being a better-selling device eventually." -- maybe if Valve gets retail partners such as Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart, Target, etc. Right now they are just looking to sell through Steam.
Well , I don't care what anybody says , im getting this , Or something very similar , there are bilions of games on steam that will never go portable like my favorite horror game Penumbra black Plague I should mention that Sony releases games on steam too so I can finaly play heavy rain on the go
People buy Nintendo for its exclusive games. Emulation is not an option for the casual buyer. I don't support Nintendo but I'm pretty sure Steam Deck will not be able to sell as good as the Nintendo Switch.
Even if it sells half as well the Deck will still be a success.
Mario and Zelda
The Switch only has access to the Switch games and The Deck will have access to all of Nintendo's games from NES all thru the Wii U which Nintendo hasn't bothered getting on the Switch aside from the lackluster NES/SNES games they have which aren't a lot. And they already said you can buy any dock and it'll work just fine connected to the TV. The only advantage was Nintendo games and there'll be more Nintendo games to play on the Deck than on the Switch. So really it's brand power, which again if Valve plays it's cards right they could overtake but they aren't trying to do that as they already said that they're just expanding the PC. A lot of articles trying to desperately explain why the Switch will remain relevant and I don't get why. The Switch won't just disappear, it won't just be over taken day one, Nintendo has nothing to worry about. If anything this will benefit them greatly as that new tech becomes more affordable and they can release something even greater with the Switch 2. Maybe move away from over priced Nvidia parts
Agree with everything you said except the last part. Nintendo won't take a loss on the hardware like Valve, they'd rather create weaker hardware, and sell it at a mark-up. Their goal is to make it as cheap as possible, and charge a $50 - $100 premium. Processor/APU: They'll likely stay with NVIDIA and the Tegra brand, which IMO is for the best as long as they go with a version of Orin, mainly for DLSS which is much better than FSR at lower resolutions (for image clarity). If they go with Xavier they need to be boycotted. 16GB of RAM is unlikely, 8GB is technically enough for the style of games they make (hopefully they go with at least 12GB, preferably 16GB). They've cut cost on storage every generation since the Wii, so they'll likely stick with 64GB eMMC. That core is still weaker than the Steam Deck, but close enough in performance that there shouldn't be a huge difference, and thanks to nips and tucks, they should be able to get the price down to around $349 at launch and still make a profit.
Mario, and all Nintendo properties.
These articles are rediculous. Just for hype.
I'm growing so tired of these Switch vs Steam Deck articles. They're both handhelds and that's where the similarities stop. Both are catering to different markets, and both have their ups and downs. I almost bought a Switch but now that the Steam Deck is a real thing, I'll buy it instead. Why? Because it fits my gamer needs. Nintendo is a shell of its former self. I want the 90s Nintendo back when it was about NES, SNES, and N64 on top of Game Boy; not gimicks.
It offers most and formost an established audience. Devs do not have to be asked to develope for the switch, they want to be on it ... the Deck has to sell first or publishers will not bother porting without getting better cuts from steam.
The only reason Steam Deck needs to sell is to keep Valve interested in making more. Steam Deck play PC games. Games will continue to be made on PC there is no additional support really needed but if the Steam Deck sells well enough maybe we'll be seeing Steam Deck specific settings. If that becomes common it doesn't necessarily mean the system will do well, but it could make adoption more palatable. This will force Nintendo's hand and maybe they'll start making hardware worth owning and with it better games.
I really don't care for Nintendo games any more. I owned a Switch and a Switch Lite but have sold them both. Great consoles, had a lot of fun but given that I had a PS4 and now a PS5 I would never get multi plat games for the Switch. That really leaves only Nintendo and indie games. Don't get me wrong, I like Mario as much as anyone, but that's about it. I'm tired of the same old, same old with Nintendo.
Just gonna drop this here.......... "Nintendo is ONLY competing against Nintendo" They have always "walked off the beaten path." and forged their own way. That said. You will Buy a switch to play current Gen Nintendo games. Otherwise, The Steam deck will be a better all around choice. (you will be able to emulate on this, so older Nintendo games will be doable.) Can install windows/Linux/Steam OS. Has full peripheral support.(Mouse/Keyboard/contro ller) It all around has more flexibility in usage options Vs The Switch
the biggest advantage they both have is that they are not in competition with each other you retards
I figure at that point, anyone who wanted a Switch, already has a Swtich. I really don't think these comparisons matter. People that already have a Switch may also want a Steam Deck. Or people that weren't going to get a Switch anyways may just buy a Steam Deck. I really don't think there's much of a rivalry at this point since Switch as been out for so long already.
Hate it or love it the Switch is not slowing down. One of my favourite consoles for sure
Switch have Zelda and Pokemon and Mario, even if some company release a hypird with capability to do 4k 30fps backed with Oled HDR and 5.1 speakers that won't do it against Switch. Switch is invulnerable because of it titles and nothing else. Actually switch have the most inferior specs and system and oline structure and it is bad comparing to anything else, but that doesn't matter as long as the mentioned franchises keeps coming for the fans.
If it's not "it's already available" I don't know what it is. Nah seriously, I'll have both for different reasons - steam deck for my steam library on the go, and Switch for Exclusives and local multiplayer. This doesn't have to erupt into arguments everytime, let people enjoy what they want.
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