Aspects such as the resolution had already been confirmed, with a screen LCD of seven inches and 1280 x 800p . Now we can also confirm that it will reach 30 frames per second
Especially since, according to the pc master race across several websites like Reddit, 30 FPS is “literally unplayable.”
30fps on a handheld is fine for me but it is funny to see how the PC master race will react to this with what you said about PC gamers hating on 30fps lol.
It's a little different when you're running full blown AAA experiences on the go. If your PC is struggling to hit more than 30fps in more modern games, it's definitely time to upgrade. If your console starts recieving more and moves 30fps titles, out of necessity, it's time for a refresh, or a new console, and console only gamers should acknowledge that. Yes, 30fps is the bare minimum you should accept. But I doubt you'll find droves of PC gamers straight up saying, with honesty, that 30fps doesn't create a playable experience. Sounds more like you just have a biased generalization of the PC gaming community and are looking to take jabs at them. You also have the ability to adjust the settings however you see fit. Personally, when I'm trying to run more modern games on one of my older builds, I found 42fps to be the sweet spot where games feel more responsive, and you start to widdle out that motion blur you get at lower fps.
This is taken out of context, they had said earlier that the Steam deck should be able to play any current game at least at 30fps. The display is 60Hz, and there are several games that were already confirmed to run at 60fps on the Steam Deck.
It's far from unplayable, but once you experience 60fps as the standard, it's hard to go back to 30 tbh.
@ABizzel1 Dude, this a console focused site. What do these people know about the specs on this badass machine. Not is it only using the new Ryzen and Navi architecture, but the latest LPDDR5 RAM architecture which is very power efficient and 4x faster than Switch's LPDDR4. Flexibility is the key point here. Do you want 30fps on Ultra settings or 60fps at Medium-High settings. It's already something PS5 does. Day One buy for me.
Not really. It's a PC. You should be able to customize settings to get the desired result that you want. It's basically a pocket PS4 with a better CPU and memory. It will run plenty of games at 60 hertz. I feel like this should be obvious.
People down voting this are idiots. This is what happens when console gamers who think they have technical acumen try to talk about hardware. You can adjust it to your liking.
Knowing a company will tout its best numbers you think that? I mean sure, you can turn the graphics to mud. If it’s capable of 60 FPS they’re morons in their delivery of info. See below for hilarious comment.
It's not obvious to them, because a lot of these commentors come from the 30 fps locked console world and they assumed since it's a PC it should automatically be 60 fps on all games. They don't understand it depends on the hardware and how demanding the game is. However, tweaking settings to get higher frame rate is foreign to them. That's where the disconnect lies
@specialguest. Also battery power isn't unlimited more power take more battery. It's a constraint in every handheld. For some reason gamers think you can have 60fps, to resolutions, all the bells and whistles, and great battery. It's not how it works.but again. This is what happens when people think they have technical acumen just because they play video games.
It's almost like maybe y'all should check out footage of it running at 60fps rather than just reading text-based arguments on the most toxic gaming website out there as your main method of gathering info
Why are so many of you downvoting Eonjay? Do you people not understand how pc gaming works?
@-Hermit- apparently not, some people are just too dense like that...
I've probably built more gaming PCs than all of you combined. This thing is a turd. Stop polishing it. It is not the handheld PC messiah you've been hoping for.
@frostypants If you think you know so much, then how were you so easily fooled by a misinformed article? If you knew so much, then surely you would see right through it.
Everyone disagreeing is flatout wrong, just like this random site. The steam deck has already been running games at 60fps the system isn't locked to 30fps, it's a PC. Looking at all these comments it's crazy how ignorant most of the people are on here (look up the definition of ignorant). I see people who claim to have PCs in various topics, yet the majority of people on here actually think this is true. The Steam deck has already been shown running games at 60fps, it has a 60Hz display for a reason, and games were running on weaker Quad-Core processors without multi-tread performance for the last 20 years without any real issues at 720p. Educate yourselves. Most of you bet not be talking about specs or performance every again.
Surely this is the case, would be silly to arbitrarily lock less demanding games at 30.
Damn, I thought it was 60 frames lock either in 720-800.
I thought so as well, I hope I’m wrong on this matter, but I see the Steamdeck failing like all the other Valve products.
In every title at every setting? How could that be. It's not reasonable to assume that. Like at all.
There isn't any specific Deck versions of the PC games like a console. You're playing the same PC games available on Steam and the performance of the game will depend on the Decks hardware and how it handles the games. If you're playing games that are graphically demanding, 30 fps is optimal, but like any PC you could tweak the settings to lower the graphics to improve frame rate. This isn't a revelation. I thought people knew this 😂 Very basic common knowledge. Non-PC gamers who are ignorant, come feed me the disagrees. I command you
Why would you assume it would have a locked frame rate? It's a pc, it runs the same way a pc would.
The screen itself may be locked to 30hz refresh though 🤔 If not then I would have to assume that you can turn he graphics to potato mode and get 60fps like any other PC.
It's a 60hz screen, why would it be locked to 30hz?
I simply raised a question. I hadn't seen it stated anywhere what the screen refresh rate actually was.
Why would you assume that?
It is, the article is spreading false information. Valve stated the minimum target is 30fps because some games you might want to run on high settings. PC games always had flexibility, it will definitely be up to the person if they want to sacrifice graphics or performance. I'm not surprised N4G would push forward this specific article over dozens where Valve has explained what it means.
When I first read this, I was very disappointed. If this is true it is a hard Pass for me. Glad I didn't pre order.
wow well that's disappointing. PSP 2 please :D
Vita already exists
Vita was the perfect handheld. Shame Sony barely supported it.
The handheld division of Sony has been long dead. No one wants to play halfassed mobile versions of PS games. Sony had the wrong approach with the Vita and it didn't help that they implemented a proprietary expensive sd card. History is my proof since the Vita support prematurely dwindled into abandonment. A new hardware does nothing to bring back the PSP if it's just going to be a hollow soul. Sony saw that division was not profitable and moved on long ago. Sorry, reality stings doesn't it?
I love my Vita, and it's an amazing handheld when hacked. Probably the best use for it honestly lol. Unfortunately, Sony's first party offerings, while mostly great IP, do not make for great handheld experiences. That's Nintendo's bread and butter.
Huge turn off for me.
Sorry you had higher expectations... I like gaming on the go. I'll adjust settings to my liking and enjoy the experience. It's gonna be awesome.
Same. I just enjoy playing games in general, competitive or not.
Valve coder elaborated on this- The "30 FPS target" refers to the floor of what we consider playable in our performance testing; games we've tested and shown have consistently met and exceeded that bar so far. There will also be an optional built-in FPS limiter to fine-tune perf vs. battery life. https://twitter.com/Plagman...
But can it run easier games at higher frames?
It should be able to, and it's a 60hz display. The best use for the Steam Deck will probably be for emulation, retro gaming, and media. It seems to be a quite capable device. I can see it being a hit in multiplayer gaming with friends. LAN party kinda stuff.
Is it limited to that I doubt it but I’d still like clarification
Haha of course not, 30fps is the minimum target frames valve considers playable. So it's 30fps and up. https://twitter.com/Plagman...
This is explain why there is no game cannot run on vale deck
It’s pc games, so just turn various settings down to get higher fps. 800p is pretty easy to drive, and the small screen won’t show up the lower settings to much.
Can you please share some of that "common sense" with some of the "uneducated" on this thread? ... please?
People jumping on the bandwagon that the steam deck is crap because it only targets 30fps need to improve there reading comprehension. 30 fps is just the minimum target, that's all
Right? So many idiots in this thread.
Clickbait. A Valve employee has stated that 30 fps is a target. There is no 30 fps lock, only an optional one for battery optimisation. All games tested by Valve reached and exceeded 30 fps.
i mean it did say 2-8 hour battery life... 60fps would halve that. I'm still on the fence as to picking it up or not...I mostly want it because of the tech, but idk if that will be enough vs just getting a laptop.
My interest is to have a small unit to pack when away from home, plug it into a bigger screen at my destination (especially great for places with bad wireless/internet) with the games I want installed. I'm not a handheld gaming fan by a long shot.
Ya thats me too i suppose
That is not awful. They are taking the equivalent of a full modern PC or full modern console and downsizing it for portability. There are sacrifices you have to make to do that. If any of these companies could easily make a portable version without sacrifices portables would be sold by everyone. It is all about design choices. Both by the hardware vendors and the game designers. This is just the minimum target framerate. Which is completely acceptable. I expect that as this console generation progresses and the developers start to truly use the console power many highly taxing games will drop to 30 fps.
Its just that, a target. It means that most if not all games can run at 800p @30fps (just like PS & Xbox runs 4k @30FPS on demanding games) so those are probably demanding games in these case as well, but games like idk terraria, disgaea, and non demanding games could run 800p @60fps or more
Whoever is downvoting this is an idiot.
People dont know how things work and get triggered or they believe i was attacking consoles which I was not...
there you have it.
Yes, we have proof that you have no clue how pc's work.
sorry that my comment, which didnt say anything at all, triggered you.
'how PCs work" ? what does that even mean? the stronger the hardware the better games run. that portable piece of hardware is weak and games won't run well, a lot of sacrifices will be made in term of resolution and FPS. Those are facts. It's as unimpressive as the Nintendo Switch. Funny, I have been playing Hyrule warriors AoC and that game runs and look so awful, it reminded me why I barely use my switch.
@Myst-Vearn "what does that even mean?" It means he doesn't know how pc gaming works or how hardware works. "that portable piece of hardware is weak and games won't run well" At 720p it is totally capable of running games well. You obviously have no idea how much performance you can get out of lowering a games resolution to 720p and adjusting graphical settings. It's totally different to a console because the sacrifices you make aren't just limited to the hardware, it's up to the user to adjust settings to suit their preference. "It's as unimpressive as the Nintendo Switch"........you're just as clueless as some of the others on this site. This destroys the Switch. This thing has a good chance at running a game like Doom Eternal at 60fps at 720p. The Switch struggles to maintain 720p at all, and at only 30fps. The Steam Deck can actually run games like Jedi Fallen Order, the Switch doesn't have it all because it's just not powerful enough.
See, I knew as more came out it would not be all peaches and cream. I still think it's a good product if it not hit with too many issues on launch, but the Switch killer or whatever people are calling it needs to stop.
yea, i was really suspicious and ppl on here celebrated it as the best thing ever ha. i wonder how many are gonna cancel their pre order now
Why would they cancel? If anyone thought all games would run at 60 only have them selves to blame. If anyone is silly enough to think that the steam deck is only capable of 800p 30fps on all games are just as silly. Old games like GTA 5 should run at 60fps on this. But newer titles like for example Days Gone might only be able to do locked 30 or unlocked 40-45 fps.
Ooh, if people cancel their reservations I might jump up the queue 😏 Also I think people are taking this out of context. It's not locked 30fps, it's the target base framerate. Also doesn't mean that with a few tweaked settings higher framerates wouldn't be possible. Let's just wait and see. I'm happy either way. Most games on Switch run at 30fps and I don't see people complaining about that.
Portable laptops are better
Portable laptop doesn't really have buttons and an interface that you can fit into your hand and play. Not really the same thing. Gaming laptops are also quite expensive, and obviously larger.
This thing is large and expensive. A decent gaming laptop can cost no more $600.
The power of 15W! :D
False article, cutting out part of the quote. https://twitter.com/Plagman... 30fps is the MINIMUM target. Games have consistantly exceeded 30fps in testing.