COG writes: If success is measured in hype and value provided to platform owners, Xbox murdered and buried the competition on Sunday with corporate gangster-level ruthlessness.
I still think they had the best show overall but it was still underwhelming for me. It had absoultely zero wow factor .. i guess that was the running theme for this whole E3.
FH5 was underwhelming? You can not be into racing but, still appreciate the amazing advances in graphics of the game,
Thats the only game. And its racer. Everything else...
itsmebryan Not the kind of WOW factor i was talking about.
What about the pop-in in the FH5 gameplay? Lol The game doesn't look much different than the previous iterations of Forza. It's a beautiful game but let's not pretend FH5 is a wow-factor or console selling game.
Nice graphics but it’s the same game they’ve been churning out for a few years now. No one should be surprised to see this game and certainly not wowed by it.
Do you really win a 3 man race if the other 2 chooses not to race? Agree = yes Disagree = no Vote now 😉✨
itsmebryan, your reaction is understandable because who have not played or seen a great game on an xbox console for a long time....
This e3 was the worst ever.. Laughable
1 game. Proving the point "underwhelming"
Yeah, I am NOT A racing gamer by any means - but when I first played Forza Horizon 3 I was hooked beyond addicition with no hope of return. This developer (Playground Games) knows how to make an engaing/fun/varied car game that literally anyone can enjoy including racing fanatics.
30fps in a racing game on the series x beast? Say its not so, 12tflops of raw power. Guess it's only Sony who get flak for that stuff
@1Victor You can say the same thing about the ps3 microsoft and nintendo shut down production to start on the new generation sony kept selling consoles long after the others quit so they could say they won.
@Levii_92 Wow factor will most likely never return to E3 with the biggest names in gaming not being part of it and its more likely that some that attended this year will soon not be part of it in the future. E3 has changed from its original purpose to now being a fan event and there's nothing wrong with that but what's the point? To attend E3 this cost Developers and Publishers millions of dollars when they can do their own even on their own time for very little cost and get the same returns. Sadly but IMO E3 is nothing more than waste of money.
Hold up this is new information for me. Developers PAY to attend e3? And millions at that??? Wtf?
@rivercityboy if publishers/developers don't pay for the right to market their games at E3, how exactly would it get funded otherwise? No one's spending millions to selflessly let these people reach a huge audience for free
Yep, Microsoft had a good show. Way better then everybody else...
Spot on - the bar was set very low this year. Coming straight off the back of the Bethesda acquisition and having no Sony to steal the show, I was expecting MS to come out all guns blazing - they did not and its a massive missed opportunity imo.
No MS definitely stole the show and Dominated it. This E3 is the Catalyst for Xbox to start amassing a major player base because of game pass. 27 of the 32 games coming to Game Pass is massive, everyone noticed. Listen to any game podcast post E3.
I tend to agree, but it depends on what your expectations and interests are. Mine were pretty high on the strength of seeing Everwild, Fable and Hellblade 2, but since none of them were present I felt underwhelmed. FH5 is of course more than a solid racer, but still not enough to carry the conference on its own. MS has the PR wind behind them at the moment (mostly on the strength of services), and I plan to get a SX soon, but yeah, their games just haven't delivered that wow factor. Demoms Souls remake, Forbidden West both look like state of the art CG; Rift Apart looks like a Pixar movie. Xbox just hasn't shown anything near the same visual fidelity
Xbox and Nintendo had a great show but in term of surprises(which is why we re all watching E3) , Nintendo is the clear winner.
Surprises at Ninty’s E3 hmm … oh yeah i remember one, i remember that i could have grabed my iphone anytime during that conference and play some random games that actually look better than most of the things they showed. That was truly surprising for me.
Dread looks incredible.
If the year was 2005 it might have looked incredible but for me, it looked so dated.
Nintendo had some surprises, but other than that it was underwhelming. Xbox was a stronger show overall, just without much surprise.
Honestly, top of my head I'd call it a draw. Neither really came hard and both had mediocre showings with a sprinkle of announcements. At least in terms of what only they offer.
They had so many games, Metroid, new Mario Party, Fatal Frame, Wario Ware, SMT 5, ect... I was definitely more excited by Nintendo's show more than anyone else's, and I'm not even a big Nintendo fan.
What did nintendo surprise us with
@Ratchet75 I totally agree. Nintendo wins for me overall.MS conference had a couple of smaller games that interested me but conference was meh
i still think they had the best show
"Xbox Won E3 2021, and It Wasn't Close" Won 2021 E3 by showing games that won't appear till the end of 2022 and beyond?
I don’t think you watched the right conference. They showed tons of games coming out in 2021, FS, SoT, Halo, 12min, psyconauts2, eetc
" Xbox murdered and buried the competition on Sunday" How do you murder and bury a competitor who is not even participating on the event?
Because they are talking about the participants
So defensive lol there’s no mention of Sony in there because they didn’t do a show.
Dont take it personal. Even Sony congratulated MS for doing a great show.
Well, Phil congratulates Sony for every show they make... since he is master chef.
You'll be ok babes
Sony is not the only competition to MS if we’re strictly talking about game and not hardware.
"How do you murder and bury a competitor who is not even participating on the event?" Easy. The "competitor" you´re talking about decided to run away from the event years ago. Murdered by default.
Murdered by default lmao When Sony drops any new footage of one of their AAA exclusives, it's get more views and traffic than the entire MS E3 showing.
Amazing how they "ran away" and still manage to murder MS in console sales and superior game offerings year after year.
Oh, hush. Following that logic, PS5 has already "beaten" Series S and Series X because Microsoft has run away from reporting console sales - "murdered by default," was it? Microsoft also said they're not competing with Sony or Nintendo, so that would mean Nintendo 'won' E3 as a gaming platform and Microsoft 'won' as a service...right? Private events seem to work best for Sony (and Nintendo, frankly). I don't get the point of having an online conference for E3 when you can hold your own and have your own rules. What is the benefit of an arbitrary deadline to have a showing specifically in June? All that does is create time crunch to have something to show. That's probably why you got a cinematic trailer for Starfield instead of gameplay (which, by the way, Xbox gamers often criticized PlayStation for cinematic trailers instead of gameplay at their past conferences, but hey). I really don't see the value of E3 for Sony. Their consumers are pretty well-informed about big games coming from via State of Play. An example: at the time of this comment of mine, Horizon: Forbidden West's gameplay trailer (uploaded 3 weeks ago on the official PlayStation YouTube channel) has 6.5M views. The Xbox E3 showcase on Microsoft's channel (added 4 days ago) is currently sitting at 1.7M views. On average, that is 310k views/day on Horizon and 425k/day on Xbox E3. Think about that: during a global pandemic where everything is distributed online and people are acclimated to this format by now, a single game on PlayStation has almost three-quarters (72%) of the daily viewership of Microsoft's entire event. Their event – presumably bolstered by E3 – appealing to a wider variety of gamers than a single game in a defined genre that has a specific appeal, isn't doing much better. Does Sony need E3? Apparently not. Plenty of other shows and private events to debut what's in the works. For Microsoft, I wonder how many new announcements you'll get this year. Should Sony make some kind of showing this year? I mean, yeah. Where it's relevant, absolutely. E3 has been slipping into irrelevance for a while now and they're already doing very well in the west. Other events, say, in Japan, are probably a better fit for them to appear at a formal event as a guest. But E3? No need for that. Maybe to showcase PSVR2 and if God of War is closer to launch by then, ok. Otherwise, nah.
What a clown. Murder with trailer vs real games that delivered. Hey you're not a clown, you actually the whole circuit. lol
This is funny, have you ever thought Sony didnt "Run away". They probably felt their competitors werent worth their time?
Dude, what can they say.... After all te hype... Beside forza.... Halo was mp and zero sp. A bunch of pc games for this year.
As a pc gamer I was quite pleased with microsoft
It really wasn't a bad show. Certainly their best in a very long time. Halo MP was actually the smarter choice in my view. I don't care for Halo, but I'm well aware that the multiplayer has always been the main reason to play it. They did come out with Psychonauts 2 which is a sequel to a cult classic and Back 4 Blood does look like a return to the fun of Left 4 Dead, but that is multiplatform. Can't really judge Starfield yet, but that is an actual Microsoft exclusive (which I'm not quite sure why people are upset about that - it's a new IP). It was an interesting show. Plenty for Xbox fans to be excited about. I do take issue with the people who can't be happy for Microsoft without snide remarks about other companies though. Those people need to calm down - they've literally been waiting longer than anyone for anything worthwhile and they've got chips on their shoulders now. Welcome to the club, lads. There's a seat for you at the table, but reel it in (though, to be fair to them, there are people on my side of the fence who are obnoxious).
@waverider "Beside forza.... Halo was mp and zero sp. A bunch of pc games for this year." So your saying Microsoft have provided me with a bunch of games this year? I knew you had it in you to praise something Microsoft related, good job.
I'll be adding some of these to my steam account's wishlist, it's the main reason I watch the Microsoft presentations, to see what's coming out on pc.
Wow, defensive much, they are not even talking about Sony, but let's jump and defend eh?
Sony did it to themselves. MS even had dev interviews and some footage for an hour after e3. It was a blowout this year
Did what to themselves exactly? They weren't there.
@/enkiduxiv lack of coverage and announcements they could have made. They chose to not support the biggest videogame celebration in the US.
Did Microsoft have games that outhyped Metroid Dread, BOTW2 and SMTV with actual gameplay? Microsoft has value down but definitely not hype.
Metroid Dread looks like an Indie game that you develop for no more than 2 years. The problem with powerful consoles like XSX and PS5, where the games actually have "graphics" and attention to detail. To display these games on 4K screens you need a twice the development time, otherwise people are constantly pointing fingers. Graphics is the least important thing on Switch.
I agree with what you said...but i don't know what that has to do with my comment. I was talking about hype. Not how good a game looks. There are going to be reaction videos of the Nintendo conference of people going nuts over reveals and gameplay. Not so much with Microsofts. More CG trailers and assuming the game is going to be amazing without seeing game play. (Redfall,starfield)
You've never played botw if you talking about its attention to detail. Thats one of botw biggest strengths
Yep. Obviously not for you. But gamers in general are hyped
Forza Horizon 5 had a very strong showing full of gameplay. The game looks insane. Then we have the gameplay of Xbox exclusive such as Age of Empire IV, A Plague Tale: Requiem, Stalker 2, and Halo Infinite as well. I’d say they have a pretty good show.
Didn't say it wasn't good. Just saying Nintendo had more hype for what they showed than Microsoft. Zelda, Metroid, Wario, Advance Wars, SMTV isn't more exciting to gaming audiences than the list you gave me? Nintendo didn't get murdered by Xbox is all i'm saying. And Nintendo didn't murder Microsoft either because of Gamepass.
How many times do you have to be told that Age of Empire IV is NOT on Xbox? Lmao
“ How many times do you have to be told that Age of Empire IV is NOT on Xbox? Lmao” I said XBOX EXCLUSIVE. I didn’t say XBOX CONSOLE Exclusive. And in case you don’t know, Xbox is an ecosystem.
"I said XBOX EXCLUSIVE. I didn’t say XBOX CONSOLE Exclusive." I have no idea that AoEIV will be on Xbox or not but if its not on it..how do you call it an "Xbox Exclusive"? The word Xbox already is a name for a console. Microsoft exclusive maybe? Pc game? Even if it's on an xbox eco system like you say it is..if it cannot be played(i might be wrong) on an "XBOX" then it cannot be called an Xbox Exclusive"
Stalker 2 is exclusive for just 3 months dude and the devs have also confirmed A Plague Tale is coming to PS5, you are sounding pretty desperate.
keep digging that hole @King_Noctis You cant call every game that Microsoft makes an XBOX exclusive when they don't release it on the Xbox. that just send the wrong ideas and information to your customer. because they will think it will be on the XBOX even though in small letters its say "only available on pc". And frankly, it's a very weak message. to me, it shows they know they don't have enough to impress so they add whatever they have to make it look better. the fact they only showed 2 semi-exclusive XBOX games(because they will be released on PC) shows enough reasons why you don't need an Xbox to play any of these games.
@King_Noctis, Technically, shouldn't you have said "Xbox Game Studios"? I'm pretty sure that's the correct name you should have been reaching for (that's how steam lists it), I would have also accepted "Xbox Studios".
This, let's not downplay the fact that Microsoft had a good show, their best in the long time, although E3 2021 was mediocre overall, but Nintendo curb stomped them with the games they had to show, and they had alot of nice stuff to show off. Nintendo could have just skipped E3 and drip fed us the surprises they had in store.