Ninja Theory’s Tameem Antoniades introduces a look into the development of Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II, the next chapter in Senua’s journey.
So basically the first cg trailer back in 2019 was just thin air with no actual game behind it ...just a a videoclip with cool music to hype the Xbox players ....... development begins now with probably 2024-2025 release.... ok then(smh)
No. They've been building up the technology, combat systems, etc., while getting everything ready for the new gen. This isn't just some last gen game that was pushed to the newer systems with prettier graphics.
Building up the tech? What tech? The game is build using UE.
@badz149 They have their customized UE4 build. It takes time and effort. Check Project Mara. Many devs do. Ubi Montreal used highly customized UE2.5 for last 2 Splinter Cells and those look better than many UE3 games of 2012/13. Rocksteady used a highly customized UE3 for Arkham City and still looks good and better than many UE4 games. MK11 still uses a very heavily customized build of UE3 (yes UE3 in 2019, not UE4)
I liked the footage. An artistic studio. Wish they hadn’t gone with ms but what can you do.
@badz149 They've said this will be a UE5 game, and UE5 isn't officially out until 2022.
@badz149 Your trying to hard fella, UE5 is not officially launched until early/mid 2022, no one expects gameplay until then. Name 1 game on any platform that is being built for UE5, that has shown gameplay? I'll wait...
OH I SEE this game then will be better than "some last game that was pushed.." or more next gen in graphs and gameplay than halo infinite,forza horizon 5,gow,horizon zero dawn 2... let me give y a tip this game will score below these games...
They are only working on the vertical slice now, whatever way you cut it, the games far off, shown way too early.
It’s like no one can be excited about anything with you people. Did you get excited by the God of War logo?
They sure did but let them move the goal post just a bit before answering...
Yeah, but to be fair, God of War is more of a known quantity. The trailer for Senua was noted as being "In engine" and everyone lost their minds, thinking that was how the game would look. If they showed a CGI trailer of GoW, people would be excited, yes, but they'd also be a bit pissed that they got yet another CGI trailer
Ok so tell me what you think of the GoW2 symbol trailer...
you comparing the development of GoW 2 the juggernaught Playstation IP (no matter if i dont like GoW at all for personal reasons) with the almost indie development of Hellblade 2 ?? think again what u said
I mean the God of War Ragnarok teaser trailer had a release window, 2021. Sure its delayed now, but it would've been released in 2021 if we were not in a pandemic Hellblade 2 was revealed in 2019... and it's probably going to release somewhere 2024 or later. So they showed it waaay to soon
Greg2801 Ok, they showed it early... What's the next complaint?
Yeah exactly what I figured you'd do. Evade the question...
@Sonic-and-Crash "So basically the first cg trailer back in 2019 was just thin air with no actual game behind it ...just a a videoclip with cool music to hype the Xbox players" Pretty sure I saw hanging limbs, volcano (probably Hekla in the south of Iceland), Viking Warriors (probably from Senua´s tribe), a giant which may or may be not that giant from the rocks and even what´s seems to be Senua´s village at the top of a hill in this new trailer. All previously showed in Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 official reveal trailer from 2019, which leads me to assume that you´re either clueless or full of s***. FYI, the "cool music" that you mentioned is "In Maidjan" by Heilung and the band is currently working with Ninja Theory on Hellblade II´s original soundtrack.
no matter how you spin it . no matter how many replies you give to me ....no matter how informed your are about that CG trailer..... the truth is one.... good patience ...you ill play the game not before 2024-25...and MS has no games ...
Its was faked. Thats the problem with cgi trailer. Even in game doesnt mean the game will look close to that, much less cgi...
No surprise this was essentially the route taken with the first game. MS ain't going to save them from the very long process to make a short but good game lol
Ninja Theory is a small studio so they can’t knock out games on a regular basis. I’d rather they take their time with it personally.
I feel like the actual Microsoft developers that weren't just bought with zenimax did absolutely nothing but listen to speeches from Phil Spencer every day for 3 years and not work on games. They have like nothing to show but zenimax stuff that they just bought.
So you got nothing... ok 👌
The preparation for a game is extension. My guess is that the planning takes just as long as the computer development. I have no basis on this, would someone be able to confirm or deny?
They shouldn't have announced it so early that we sit here over a year later with STILL not a single drop of gameplay, not even a screenshot. Yes it takes years, but studios don't usually ride this long on a CGI trailer and a bunch of talk. They should have waited till development was further along to announce this.
If you were anticipating a fast launch after debut, I can see the frustration. They never gave a drop date. On the hand, this isn't like GTA6... we know GTA6 is coming even if they haven't announced it. HellBlade 2, no one knew there would be a sequel. It is a horse a piece. The gaming world is a lot different from how it was two decades ago. Game developers were dropping Final Fantasies, Devil May Cry's, Resident Evils, and GTA's like they were nothing. Now we get a new game once every half-decade.
The game was announced 2 years ago . It should be half way done
No expense spared on this one.
I don't get it... the first Hellblade wasnt good enough to warrant this much hype and blind faith... Monotonous, damage-sponge battles, cheesy story/dialogue, uninspired, overly linear level design w minimal interaction... It basically felt like a glorified UDK student project... How is this one of the most hyped XB exclusives?
The first game was almost universally praised while it was exclusive to PS.
I remember N4G fan used to call it their personal GOTY or “underrated” gem back then. However, as soon as the game come to Xbox and MS bought Ninja Theory, the hate start popping up. Never change N4G. Lmao.
And almost universally hated by others until that exclusivity went away.
And was criticized buy xbox gamers...
What??? How many awards did it win? It had its faults, but was very well produced and insanely (pun intended) atmospheric. I really liked the game
What looks excellent? They haven’t built anything yet. Officially announced a year ago and all they have are Assets?
This just looked like a bunch of hard to distinguish smash cuts and FMV sequences.
They showed actual in game assets. They are busy finalising a chunk of the game, then will use that as basis to build the rest of the experience on. Thats what he said.
Kind of disappointed on how far along they are after announcing in 2019. Personally, they should showed that trailer this year. But, the assets that they showed for the game look extremely good. Hopefully, worth the wait. Maybe they should've did a Trailer like The Outer Worlds 2.
They dont have anything for the Outer worlds either, this is AAA gaming now, full scale trailers and reveals for games that barely have a concept map down.
Reminiscent of the roll out from the first game. I enjoyed watching the process for the development last time and I hope they continue it.
I didn't watch them until long after the game came out, but when I did get around to watching, I really enjoyed it. I really wish they'd have more frequent updates. The last one about Melina training in order to get in shape to perform the fighting mo-cap was pretty cool though.
And they still have nothing to show?
Games take years to make, shocking I know. They are showing something right now (even if it is not “gaemplay”) to assure fan that the game is still being developed.
Games take about 2 years to make. 3 if its being ambitious. Engines are simpler and more accessible than ever yet the development time has ballooned to 3, 4, 5 years with countless delays. Then the product gets released or gameplay is revealed and its underwelming junk. Crackdown was teased in 2015 and released in 2019. That means it was in development for 4 YEARS and it has LESS features than the original Crackdown from 2007! Just look at Halo Infinite, years of development time and the initial reveal looked like it was slapped together in 6 months. Are the dev teams composed of monkeys?
They do take years but it’s been 2 years they should have a lot at this point and not be at the beginning of development
“ Games take about 2 years to make. 3 if its being ambitious” Which good AAA game take two years to make? Please name one as I seriously have no idea. “ Just look at Halo Infinite, years of development time and the initial reveal looked like it was slapped together in 6 months. Are the dev teams composed of monkeys?” How can 343i be compared to Ninja Theory? They both are different developer and have their own way of developing games. Or are you saying every game developers on earth are the same?
What a let down. Just a bunch of studio work and no actual gameplay to demo. I got a baaaaad feeling about this.
What gave you that “baaaaaaaaaaad” feeling?
Well, you’d think they’d have some kind of vertical slice to show by now or anything other than a character rigged, mo-cap, weird visual effects of the models face, and then reused trailer footage. It just doesn’t feel reassuring… almost like they want to avoid backlash 🤷♂️
Or.... The game isn't going to be out yet. So they're not going to show it.
@crimson it is common in game development for the game to looks trash compared to the final product untill the final stretch of development. Thats why no dev is thrilled to start releasing alpha footage, because many people will just shit it on it without realizing how a game is made. I dont mind them taking their time if the final product turns out to be good.
I agree with Crimson. Reminds me of Crackdown3 vibes of development hell and empty cloud promises? Anyone remember that?
@Flavorlav How can Ninja Theory be compared to the developer of CD3? Did Ninja Theory promise that this game is gonna change the world and how we live in it?
Wasn't the first more than just a game? Was it not made to also bring attention to mental health? So I find it funny how people simply want them to make a sequel just cause with no actual meaning behind other than just making a sequel. This was never meant to become some series to milk sequel after sequel so why were you all expecting something?
I think people are upset the game isn't further along considering how long ago the first one came out. You don't really think people are going to consider the other projects they've been working on over the last 4 years and when the game was announced it was said it's in "early development?" On top of building up their staff and moving offices. There were some who seriously thought it'd be out at launch for SX.
I didn't really think it needed a sequel, but this team will most likely deliver. They haven't let me down yet.
It was kinda like Sonys E3 conference. They really didn't have anything to show. But at least Ninja theory showed up and let everyone know they are hard at work. Sony had NOTHING to show
Are you for real? Sony realised in six months 3 PlayStation exclusives while MS showed us CGI and gamepass
@mr blonde "Sony had NOTHING to show" LOL let's just all forget Sony just released live gameplay footage with a boss battle and complete with cinematics for Horizon FW just a couple of weeks ago, is that what you're saying? that show alone has more gameplay than all gameplay MS has shown so far this gen! you just went full retard there! the only thing not cross-gen MS has released this gen so far has been The Medium and that too is coming to the PS5 this September, meaning that they paid for 8 months time exclusivity which feels even more pathetic considering their studio shopping spree as of late! comes E3 (which they have told everybody to wait for as always), all they are showing are mostly CGI and if it's not for FH5, would be a total embarrassment! but that too raised a question, where is the supposed RPG developed by Playground?? are they forced to work on another Forza Horizon? Let's not compare Ninja Theory to Sony as a whole because that would be embarrassing as Sony has been releasing games almost non-stop since NT released of Senua's Sacrifice back in 2017! what has NT been doing? Bleeding Edge? is that something they or MS should be proud of? or are you proud of that Gamepass filler? never go full retard!
Sony definitely has something to show, but they've become quiet little secret squirrels now and barely provide a drip feed of any information.
This is like go to school to sign in as present and then walk out few minutes later. We already knew they're working on it they don't have to waste it on Game Pass flex.
So saying "we're hard at work" is all it takes huh? Some times its better to show "NOTHING" then show up and pretend you're showing something when you're really not.
Sony has plenty to show , they just don’t want to do it at E3 . Personally my guess is Sony didn’t like that E3 always has leaks and they want to keep things hush hush . Also they have to pay millions to set it up . Last they want to show things Over time .They are doing their own shows with total control of information and cost . With the internet you don’t need E3 anymore . E3 was in its heyday for gaming when magazines were popular and prevalent . Magazines are dying (dead for the most part) and so is E3 . There’s an announcement/show whatever it is in 4 days from Sony , some think it’s Silent Hill (hoping it is) . Also I see that they want to announce games all year long as they get closer to release instead of showing most of everything that’s coming in who knows how many years in one show . It’s a smart approach imo .
Have yet to kick in full production and basically have nothing worth showing so why bother? This is pointless all they need is some short social media post but proceed to waste minutes of dev time to make a video just to flex.
I just fail to understand the much hype generated by xbox fans over this game. I played it when it first got released on PS4 as an exclusive. The game was good. But not that good that its sequel suddenly becomes the much hyped xbox upcoming exclusive game. Heck Hellblade got an opencritic average score of 83. There are so much better xbox games are coming out. But why this... anyways have fun playing it in 2024-2025.
Wow after 2019 at least a new trailer was expected but they got nothing. This game is looking way beyond 2023.
The game looks better and better, each time they show it. Looking forward to some gameplay :)