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Redfall The Weakest "One More Thing" Yet

Devin Rardin: In the Redfall trailer, there was no sense of innovation, and the trailer itself made us question the kind of game being sold.

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majiebeast1044d ago

Nothing will ever beat Nintendo Land fire works, but this is a close second. The game is not getting any views on youtube.

Orchard1044d ago

Nothing will ever beat RIDDDGEEE RACCEEEERRR!

Godmars2901043d ago

This game isn't even a blip on - RIDDDGEEE RACCEEEERRR! - radar. Until there's actual footage, its just another team coop shooter.

Lightning Mr Bubbles1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

So I'm not the only one who thinks Redfall looks kind of lame? I remember one of the ladies on the post show was acting like it was the greatest thing ever... And I'm like, "what is she talking about?" It looks kind of fortnite-ish with the cartoony characters, and that women's big afro hair?? I mean come on... Some people say it reminds them of Left 4 Dead a bit, but Left 4 Dead is a zombie shooter, how can you compare? Besides, Back 4 Blood is the real next Left 4 Dead.

Concertoine1043d ago

It just blows my mind how Arkane is allowed to get away with their hideous art style no questions asked.

medman1043d ago

What the heck does "afro hair" have to do with anything? You sound like a lame....

Zeref1043d ago

This isn't a left 4 dead style shooter, it's a story based game.

NeoGamer2321043d ago

Honestly it is hard to form a real opinion on this game from the trailer. I liked the humor, the graphics were good, and the premise is interesting. Same with Starfield. When they said tease they really meant tease.

But as for the story and gameplay we don't know much yet, It has potential. Anyone saying it is the greatest ever or worst ever is just being crazy right now.

OG_TK_Cole1043d ago

What does a Black Woman's hair have to do with the making of the game. See this is the stuff that will get you in trouble outside of the Internet. Some of you be saying stuff and dont even realize that your being disrespectful.

annoyedgamer1043d ago

From the looks of it thats the only female with hair.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1043d ago

So you have a problem with afros? Seems like maybe you don't like a certain group associated with that type of hair style. Of all the things in that trailer that's what you pick out to criticize? Your hair must be stunning...

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Knushwood Butt1043d ago

People that hate on the Wii U are obviously afraid of something called PROGRESS.

Christopher1044d ago

This game is getting way too much hate because everyone is jumping on a bandwagon when it showed more in its CGI trailer than a ton of other games announced similarly this year and in past years.

enkiduxiv1043d ago

I think it has more to do with the studio. I personally think Arcane has more talent than any of the other Bethesda studios because of Dishonored and Prey. Immersive Sims never really sell well though and we have to keep daddy Microsoft happy.

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TheOptimist1043d ago

Tbh it's a tough competition between Arkane and ID. But Arkane and ID are the only AAA developers I trust right now

enkiduxiv1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

@Banthis I have to admit I forgot about Id. BGS needs to prove its found its mojo again with Starfield at least for me personally, too much monetization going on with that studio lately.

aconnellan1042d ago

I don’t understand. Microsoft’s purchase of Zenimax went through in March. Do you think that Arkane started development on this after March, when such a decision could be dictated?

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ABizzel11043d ago

I think the biggest issue is there are nearly 6 four-player co-op shooter games (most of which are supernatural) all coming out in the next year or so. There are just way too many.

Back 4 Black
Anacrusis
Redfall (the name isn't the best)
Warhammer: Darktide
Contraband
I forgot the other one

Concertoine1043d ago

Yup. We went from a drought of L4D style games to more than i know what to do with. Put that suicide squad game on there too it looks like L4D.

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Christopher1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

This optional co-op shooter is the straw on the camel's back, not Outriders, Hood: Outlaws & Legends, Dead By Daylight, Destiny 2, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76, Strange Brigade, Grounded, Monster Hunter, etc.? And, heck, throw in Indies, and this explodes out grotesquely as there are a ton of co-op-focused games there.

I think people are too adjusted to seeing an expanse of representation of other genres but overlook that this is extremely represented in the industry as well. It's just normally not seen that way or has a slight SP element to it (same with Redfall and Dark Alliance here, btw).

Zeref1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

Redfall and Contraband don't belong on that list,

They're both Openworld.
Redfall is a story based game that has fun coop mechanics.
Contraband is a game based on heists and isn't necessarily a shooter(they said shooting is a last resort and not a focus of the game)

Yes they have coop like the other games but that's literally where the similarities end. The other games on that list are survival focused games.

Are we gonna pretend that all games that have 4 player coop are the same now?

KillBill1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

You put "the name isn't the best" after Redfall but don't put any such quantification to Anacrusis.... really??? lol

What made you think Contraband is in the same category as the other Left4Dead type games? It is only mentioned as co-op but has no given gameplay to ascertain it is just another 4 player co-op game. Looks to me like Contraband would fit more into a Kane & Lynch type game than not.

shuvam091042d ago

I think you're thinking of World War Z Aftermath. Tbh Redfall is open world, so the closest comparison would be Generation Zero.

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Godmars2901043d ago

Likely getting hate for showing what would be an interesting SP ARPG, fighting against a covert vampire conspiracy as it becomes more open, into another post-apocalyptic team shooter that can be played alone. With the especial sore spot of "alone" probably being everyone else being AI controlled.

Christopher1043d ago

The documentation on it specifically cited having a solo spec and mentioned nothing of AI team members. But specifically mentioned teaming up with others with a group spec.

Godmars2901043d ago

Thing is, until actual gameplay is shown, it just another coop shooter, that's promising a SP shooter campaign.

Zeref1043d ago

Have you ever played an Arkana game?

It's not gonna be a mindless shooter, it's a story focused game.

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Orchard1044d ago

Author must have watched a different E3 from me - I'm pretty excited to see how this game plays and find out more about it.

-Foxtrot1044d ago

I enjoyed the concept with vampires

I enjoyed the fact it was Arkane

I just hated the fact it was ANOTHER 4 player co-op, work together type of game where they say you can play solo but you never know if it's something you can play solo where you'll get the exact same experience or if it's just a mode thrown in to keep people happy. Time will tell but Arkane was always a single player focused studio, even with Deathloop they have an invading feature online wise but it's not full blown co-op.

Relientk771043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

If it was just like Dishonored, but you played as a vampire with cool powers, I would have been totally game. Not a fan they made this 4 player co-op either. That's not Arkane's specialty.

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DJStotty1043d ago

"Not a fan they made this 4 player co-op either."

So play solo, smh.....

--Onilink--1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

Also interesting that they are saying its Open World (or city I suppose) as opposed to the more strict chapter approach we see in these games. Though again, its not like the trailer does anything to show how that will play out.

Still though, very interested. If its something more in line with the usual exemplary map design that they do, on a larger scale I suppose, in this Left 4 Dead kind of gameplay style and with Dishonored/Prey kind of powers for combat and traversal (which is what I guess the trailer showed most), it could end up being a really really good take on the genre

senorfartcushion1043d ago

It’s because it’s Xbox and this is N4G. Xbox are bad at exclusives, but this is a good example of a decent one. Yeah, it’s Co-op, but it fills the void of Evil Dead being a silly online-only game. I couldn’t wait for Evil Dead as WWZ is one of my fave games I’ve ever played, and I played that offline like a nerd. ED looked like the perfect co-op follow-up that would have been fun being played alone for a bit, but that concept didn’t leave my head and they’ve made another Dead By Daylight clone.

This could fill the gap for me. Xbox not only are bad at keeping the exclusives for themselves, but they also make some of the biggest microtransaction-filled offenders in the business - mostly Sea of Thieves BUT WITH games. It’s annoying. This game feels similar, but you can play offline. I can relive the WWZ fun on my bill😅.

I play co-op a lot, but none of my mates like Wez 😂

TricksterArrow1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

Oh, no. A company trying different things! Burn them! Burn them all!

Let this game live or die on it's own merits. Don't like it, don't buy it. Someone will and more power to them. It is that simple.

enkiduxiv1043d ago

People are upset because one of their favorite single player devs is currently making two multiplayer coop games (Death Loop and this). I still remember the year Bethesda did the Save Player One campaign. We got four really good single player games from them and they all sold poorly. After that everything was monetized multiplayer garbage, except for Rage 2 I guess.

Yui_Suzumiya1043d ago

Yeah but neither Redfall nor Death Loop are multi-player focused or forced. You can easily play them without even having internet.

aconnellan1042d ago

I’m not super fussed on the trailer myself, but I can’t stand N4G’s general approach to CG trailers.

If you say you’re excited, people go “what for? It’s just a CG trailer the game could be terrible”

Yet in the next breath they’re more than happy to say how terrible it looks.

So we’re not allowed to be excited because CG trailers aren’t reflective of gameplay… but we are allowed to criticise it, even though it’s not reflective of gameplay?

Ridiculous

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Most Disappointing Game of 2023

VGChartz's Craig S: "Who doesn't love a good dose of schadenfreude every now and then? There was no shortage of that on offer in terms of video games last year, hidden in plain sight amongst the more genuine disappointments (I'll leave it for you to decide which category each of the following games falls into).

One unfortunate trend when it comes to the biggest disappointments of the last year was that so many were new IPs, including Bethesda's latest major release Starfield, the Arkane Studio B-team's abortive attempt at a co-op vampire shooter, and Square Enix's action RPG Forspoken. Mega-franchise Call of Duty and the perennially delayed The Lord of the Rings: Gollum round out the list of Nominees."

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Profchaos94d ago

I think disappointing and bad are not the same thing.

The article calls out lotr Gollum that was not disappointing it was bad

Redfall is both disappointing and bad.

starfield, MW3 sure disappointing.

But if I was to add some disappointments of the year I'd add

firewall ultra absolutely a dumpster fire that killed the studio.

007 goldeneye the port of the N64 game it's disappointing as we didn't get the rare remaster version and the switch version has very poor controls.

Rdr was not the remake we wanted a simple port that didn't even run at 60 fps on launch on ps5

Jedi survivor Just broken on day 1

coolbeans94d ago

-"The article calls out lotr Gollum that was not disappointing it was bad"

I personally fall on the 'Gollum disappointing' spectrum. Here's why: even though Daedalic Entertainment was hopping out of their point-n-click lane, they *were* a solid group of devs that had an unexpected concept. Those two things, cheering on a dev taking a risk with a brand and the odd-yet-intriguing template, at least made me hope for something decent; instead, it's the reason they're only publishing now.

CBaoth94d ago

But the concept never stood a chance, even in the heyday of the Metal Gear/Splinter Cell days. When this was announced, no one was intrigued by its premise. Fell flat on its face. Even if Gollum had come out to glowing reviews the game would've struggled to perform financially. That's why it's not disappointing, just bad. Had no hype. All the other games Prof listed had the potential to sell great or be reviewed better but failed. Low effort remasters like the GTA collection, the RDR port, and MGS Collection could all sell well but still be severely disappointing. Gollum was uninteresting at concept, terrible in its execution. The result was expected sadly.

-Foxtrot93d ago

Goldeneye is so weird

We got no proper remaster for it despite the fact it was being worked on and it was almost done apparently then the Xbox version didn't come with online play but the Nintendo Switch one did...the Switch...the system where online play is a f***** ballache.

https://youtu.be/6B8ssbyAeR...

RhinoGamer8894d ago

I recently came back to Redfall, my lord...the controls and movement were a disgrace! I felt like my character was drunk. Zero fine movement control. The XBOX producers on this game should be fired.

OtterX94d ago

I think Diablo IV deserves to be on this list. While not the worst made game, it was one of the most disappointing. Many of us had such high expectations for it and it turned out to be so incredibly dull, a slog to play.

Sonic188194d ago

It's basically Diablo Immoral 2.0 with lots of microtransactions

DarkZane94d ago

Diablo 3 was as much as a dumpster fire at launch, but a year later, it became a very good game and was well worth playing. Give Diablo 4 the same time. In a year, it's going to be awesome I bet.

coolbeans94d ago

I was under the impression their most-recent update fits that bill.

OtterX94d ago

K I'll try reinstalling in a year or 2.

I didn't play D3 until after the first year, so I will certainly give it another shot.. especially to try and get my money's worth out of it. But at launch, I was bored out of my mind and uninstalled it.

Sonic188193d ago

That's the biggest issue. Unfinished games with lots of flaws and issues during launch. Unfortunately, most gamers don't forget or forgive that and would rather spend their money on another game

jznrpg94d ago (Edited 94d ago )

Jedi Survivor was disappointing for me because I waited until a month ago to play it and it still has major issues. My saves were getting corrupted so I had to restart an old save however many times and a plethora of other bugs.

Of course there is Redfall Starfield but to me it’s MS overhype underdeliver so I expected it to some extent but not as bad as it was.

Gollum had little to no expectations.

Forspoken was a disappointment but not as bad as it was made out to be especially if you turned on Japanese voice acting. It was a 7 type of game but it looked like it could have been better.

Diablo 4 was scored well at launch but all my friends that loved and played 3 (after years of swasons) up until 4 were disappointed with 4 and don’t play it anymore .

Factions getting canceled was a bit of a disappointment. Not huge as I don’t play gaas much but it was disappointing.

Nintendo not releasing Switch 2 again was disappointing to me. I don’t use my Switch much it’s just so outdated and mosty kiddy games release some more games that I want to play not my kids!

No physical copy for Alan Wake 3 disappointing as hell, actually beyond that it is upsetting (to some extent,I will live of course)

Gamers getting used to owning nothing and renting games is very disappointing. I don’t watch Netflix anymore it’s mosty mediocre crap and rental services will go that direction if allowed.

CBaoth94d ago

this whole gen has been a major disappointment to me. Least amount of gaming I've done since bar/clubbing days. Watching fanboys argue now is akin to a couple of kids fighting over the front seat of a short bus. They can't even argue over games anymore.....cuz there aren't any! With two of the console manufacturers "switching' over to x86 architecture we shouldn't be having these draughts but here we are. And the third happily chugs along selling games on decade old microchips with an OLED screen.

Profchaos94d ago (Edited 94d ago )

X86 is a shared architecture but both run different development pipelines so they still have to Dev for those consoles plus PC and Arm if a switch port is included.

None of this will reduce Dev times games are complex now probably more than they need to be honestly but if every studio takes 3 to 5 or even 10 years to bring out their big titles there's going to be many dry spells

On that note arm processing is far more efficient than x86 I think Nintendo is making the right call sticking with that and we will probably see Sony and Microsoft do the same next gen as more effort is being made to bring arm into desktop space lately

Profchaos94d ago

Being disappointed that Nintendo isn't releasing ultra violent games is like being disappointed that the the next GTA game is open world. Plus totk and Metroid prime remaster did come out this year that's about as violent as they will even get

Im pretty certain that one experiment in publishing devils third is one they would like to forget.

Plus all rumours for the switch 2 places it's release in 2024 they make killer numbers at Christmas if they announce they are making a switch 2 those sales dwindle and shareholders get upset. If a switch 2 doesn't release this year that's disappointing. And if third party's don't develop for it even more so there's zero garuntee they will

I agree gamers getting used to owning nothing is a huge disappointment I don't think many will go silently into that one though

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Xbox Game Pass App for Quest VR is totally pointless but has so much potential

CG writes: In this video, we take a closer look at the recently released Xbox Game Pass App for Quest VR headsets and determine that due to being able to do more with the Quest Browser, it’s pretty pointless as it is. Yet, there’s so much room for potential with the social aspects of the devices. We also compare to how it holds-up against paid for apps like Virtual Desktop.

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I'm So Glad I Gave Redfall A Second Chance

I went back to Redfall long after it was written off by the gaming community, and I'm so happy I did. Is Redfall good now? Find out here.

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darthv72142d ago

When i first tried it... it gave me a headache with its frame rate and pacing. The update did a good job of mitigating those issue and its been rather fun at times. Still seems like there is more work to be done but otherwise this is at least how it should have been from the beginning. if it was... things would have turned out differently.

maniacmayhem142d ago

I've heard the update did this game a bit of justice. Unfortunately, I think for a game like this the damage is done and there's no turning it around.

It's different for survival type, MMO lite games that may be light on content at release like Sea of Thieves or NMS, but for a co-op multiplayer shooter, low framerate, bad AI, etc, not a lot of people are willing to come back with so many other better options on the market.

thesoftware730142d ago (Edited 142d ago )

I went back to it as well, and having good fun with my friend that actually bought it for $8.

I'm in the same boat as Darth, at launch it gave me a headache, I'm not even sure if it was 30fps, and the enemies were to spaced out with bad AI. Since then they added more enemies, fixed some of their AI(getting stuck behind cars and such) up'ed the FPS, now I'm having fun.

They still need to add more weapon variety, and better rewards for completing nest and such. I keep getting low level items that are to easily dismissed . They also need to fix some of the interface, like the map market on the map screen sucks. With some fixes they can make it a solid 7 or 8 out of 10 game.

Inverno141d ago

There's nothing to find out. The game hasn't gotten any actual update that makes it worth buying. Just some general fixes, but it's still an incomplete game, they sold you an incomplete game, knowingly, and hyped it up, and lied about it. Stop letting these things slide.

Ironmike141d ago

The gu s when fired sound very weak

Sephiroushin141d ago

omg people still talking about this pos

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