The company lays out its ambition to reach billions of gamers
Not bad, 4 games a year? Twice as many as we normally get /s Edit : just having a bit of fun, excited to see what xbox has in store for us gamers, roll on Sunday :p
It’s just words. It’s been over a year since Microsoft released anything decent. The last AAA blockbuster title MS released was gears 5. Nearly 2 YEARS ago
No, it's just math.
Just relying on Gears and the other two every decade says a lot about Microsoft. I'm actually glad that they acquired Bethesda
Well Flight Simulator if you count in PC. But there were some smaller releases. But yes, they should really deliver good games. With so many studios more than once a quarter. The big problem they have is, that they release only so few games and not everyone likes every game. So they should at least deliver more games over the year so everyone has something to play. E.g. I don't like Souls-like games ... they are work not games (IMHO). I like good stories but story-driven games so far are rare these days. And not, naughty dog games are not an alternative. To repetitive and action focused for my taste. Currently player Uncharted 1-4 and already bored at 30% (currently at 70%) Uncharted 1 because it is so repetitive ... always enemies in waves .. why not fewer of them but more "intelligent". Always those mass shootings ... I'm to old for this stuff ^^
@Mulando: Uncharted 1 is the one that most people didn't even play and it's the one that aged the most for sure. It was Naughty Dog just kinda getting into ps3 development. Uncharted 2 is the one that broke records for GOTY awards. I loved them all but most people started at 2.
@the problem They didn't have more studios than Sony back them. They could easily put out a game every AAA game every 3 months. Plus gamepass, the Xbox will have a great run.
Ori 2. Flight Simulator? Both over 90 on Metacritic.
Was that Crackdown 3?
Yeah im sure they invested all that money in studios so they can continue to not release games. Its coming up to the two year mark since them acquisitions, with the pandemic its got to be only another year or so before we start seeing games from these studios……surely haha
I dunno, i would say decent is purely subjective, since Gears 5 they have released :- Wasteland Remastered Bleeding Edge Minecraft Dungeons The Bard's Tale: Remastered and Resnarkled Battletoads Just for xbox, another handful of titles for PC and mobile. Although not AAA it is not like they are not working on things, Halo was supposed to launch last year, but instead got pushed back. These studios have been hard at work for around 3 years on new games, and we will get to witness some of them come Sunday.
Imagine this is only PR and talking about 4games.. In reality it'll be max 1
Quantity over quality??? Hmm don't know about this. Are they talking about AAA games every 3 months?
That is the formula for successful platforms. PS1, PS2, PS4, Wii... all have quantity over quality (ratio of A-AA vs AAA)
Sony could do this as well if they actually invested in more studios. Just imagine their output if they did.
@hollow, I was referring to the libraries as a whole. 1st/2nd party games generally represent a small portion of a platforms overall quantity of games. And often times are seen as the quality. The remaining portion is comprised of 3rd party exclusive and multiplat titles and those can vary in terms of development budget (A-AAA) and quality. A successful platform has a very diverse library of titles developed at differing levels of A-AAA and usually you find the quantity of the titles overall outpace the quality ones.
Whatever the studios will decide to release. Microsoft does not say what and how they should develop games. If you release a bad game, it will bring you less money and lower your reputation. No one wants that, right ? Even if it's in game pass. A considerable quantity is also sold on discs.
@lore "Sony could do this as well if they actually invested in more studios. Just imagine their output if they did." Could?? 🤣 Bro, they are about to release their 3rd current gen exclusive in a few days! And you think Sony needs to invest in more studios to do that?! Where have you been?? Demon souls remake, Returnal and now ratchet and clank. That's 3 games already....
@Knightedhollow I just purchased a Switch, and outside of the normal Nintendo exclusives the rest are the niche Japan titles. It’s only about 5 games that I really wanted to play and I have them already.
I think it will take them 2-3 years to get to that point where they can release 3-4 games per year. Because most of their acquisitions released games right before being acquired. Game development takes time especially if we are talking about AAA gaming For example Sony bend they release days gone few years back and are now just starting work on a new IP. Sequels are easier to do but could still take 2-3 years. I just want Xbox to focus on quality, not all 23 studios need to do AAA games as some could do smaller AA titles. But I really hope Xbox focuses on AAA games because those are the system sellers and really create hype for the console. I have always felt with GP Ms just want content regardless of quality. This isn't the right mindset. Games like bleeding edge shouldn't be the answer. We have to realize game industry is filled with delays. Yes I do want more exclusives on XSX but I want quality over quantity. Like halo later this year has to be close to 90 on metacritic. It's their biggest IP and it's time they bring the Bungie level quality to next halo
I have to disagree with you regarding Gamepass, I don't want to have all the game be AAA games that require me to play 1000000000000000 hours and plus to enjoy the game. That's the beauty of Gamepass you can find something for all tastes and there are tons of games that let you try games without the risk of being burned by a genre or a style. Have you tried Haven? it's a nice game that reminds me of Journey on Ps4 Gears Tactic if you want game like Excom Ufo Streets of Rage 4, Xeno Crisis, Carrion, Backbone... My point is I don't mind a good B movie from time to time or something Cheezy and don't need to have only Avengers movie quality. As for halo infinite don't hold your hope up for a great score. The media has already passed judgment on the game long ago just like they did with Day's Gone. Expect a 6 to 8( ign) at best with comments like Having the multiplayer missing is like taking the heart of Halo It's clear that the game was designed with Xbox1 in mind and it shows in the design and limitation Etc.
AAA games will take around 3-5 years to complete. I'm fully expecting some decent gameplay of these projects come Sunday, along with a surprise or two.
Those games you listed look awful, thank god I didn't spend more than $1 from it lol
23 studios and xbox games publishing, if they can plan the release dates well and get their teams to maintain high quality while hitting their launch dates on time, they will eventually take more of the market share, they have a big chip on their shoulder since last gen thanks to their first party drought. Before anyone gets too excited remember this is a company that delayed infinite for a year which was to be a launch title for series x. The definition of poor planning. Maybe they can get their excel spreadsheets in order and plan it out. If they can get this machine rolling with high quality consistent game releases and wider access to said games through cloud and streaming sticks, people will start looking to jump in to their ecosystem themself. Services are only as good as the content they provide, and content will always be king. To push their gamepass service , their high quality console in the series x, they need to have high quality games, it's good to know they know this. Exciting times
In 2020 two of Microsoft's big studio acquisitions paid off with exclusive Xbox games; Obsidian released Grounded and Ninja Theory released Bleeding Edge. Now all it has to do is double that output.
This would not work if quality isn’t maintained. Ninja theory explicitly said they have been working on bleeding edge, even before the acquisition. Both these games you mentioned are very AA in scope. Although grounded has gained some traction. What these studios can do with the infrastructure and resources of a tech giant like Microsoft is still to be seen. The only evidence we have of what studios are capable of is looking at teams like the coalition, turn 10, rare and 343i. Time money and talent is the perfect combo for teams to make great games. Would really love to see games that actually are fun to play and experience. The world needs more studios like naughty dog etc. it’s a win win for gamers. Sucks to be a fanboy.
How is releasing games that very few play paying off? The Bleeding Edge was dead on release and the other was forgotten long ago. These 2 games are a small step above shovelware both were Game Pass filler and I hope these are not the type of games Microsoft is working on but after seeing the Craig coming out party maybe Game Pass filler is the best they can do.
“Paid off”!? I doubt that either of those two games put a dent to what it cost to acquire those teams. Gamepass filler at best. I expect bigger better things out both those teams on their next games though
Grounded technically has not been released yet. It is still in early access.
We’re still waiting for their launch games 🤣
Lol yes they have still not had a single first party release for series x|s. The only native release for them was medium from bloober. Even the one first party launch game (halo infinite) as you said we are still waiting for it. Which is again cross gen. But you have to see the outlook of what Sony is doing now announcing all the xdev collaborations. Like from haven and now deviation games, no trailers just logos and hype. All of these are investments are a reminder that Sony knows that the ms first party output will kick into high gear in a few years. Unlike the Sony fanboys Sony is pretty smart to see this, and their investment is a great move, if ms first party strategy is successful in delivering consistent quality quarterly , ms can be very competitive and eat up sonys market share.
Xbox isn't taking marketshare in the traditional console race. We've seen 3 generations of Xbox and 4 generations of PlayStation which is over 20 years for both consoles now. That's been enough time to realize that PlayStation is simply the more popular platform globally with the PS3 vs 360 generation showing that PlayStation at its worst is still able to slightly edge out Xbox at its best. Sony's hold on Europe, Asia, and RoW territories is just too much, and now since North America is back to being neck in neck with PlayStation pulling ahead, marketshare loss is not going to happen. This is why Xbox is looking at new markets to enter, such as digital streaming to TVs, and leading with GamePass. Console sales are a losing battle without a complete overhaul of the entire brand which is not a risk a major corporation wants to take when they already have billions invested and tens of millions of users. GamePass and Streaming Xbox is their new market (aka software), to get back into competing in the hardware sales battle with PlayStation, then Xbox has to go down to the root of tradition and basically be a mini iTX gaming PC that runs an Xbox version of Windows OS to try to appease both Xbox console gamers (who are buying regardless) and tempt budget /mid-range PC gamers which is a large pool of gamers.
No matter what they do, be its streaming apps on tv, a new mini gaming PC or cheaper systems for a low barrier of entry, they will never eat the playstation market share without the games. People dive into ecosystems looking for games. If xbox made quality games like sony first party does now, it's hard to imagine a world where playstation would be leading. Ps is leading purely because of industry defining games, games that take years of time budget and talent. Xbox finally has enough breathing room between all of its studios to attempt high quality games now. I really hope they don't fudge it up. People go where the games are, it's as simple as that. I feel Microsoft is waking up to that reality.
They've been saying that for years now.
Can't post a link yet so here you go.....(From Google- wwccftech.com) ''Microsoft Plans to Release a 1st Party Xbox Game About Every 3 Months With XGP Being This Timeframe’s Main Driver'' Jun 11, 2019 04:45 EDT
Here is Aloymetal's link https://wccftech.com/xbox-g...
If you need a link you either haven't been paying attention or you're in denial. Probably the latter.
I thought that was what op was referencing. This has been their stated goal for a while, hasn't it? It's basic math. Looks like Booty's math got a lot easier after Bethesda, too. Real question will be if they can learn that 4 games in the fall is not the same as releasing every 3 months... No denial. I just think the "oh they've been saying that for years" crowd and "journalists" should work on reading and math skills. Subs need constant content. Content comes from devs. Devs take 3-5 years to make games. Put those together, and what do you think is their goal?
Not with owning all this studios.
“And doing nothing with them. Less talk, more showing.” You know, you’re right. Why haven’t we thought of this. MS just paid companies Playground Game, Obsidian, and Bethesda to sit on their asses and doing nothing. Fable, Awoved, Starfield, Hellblade 2, Perfect Dark, Indiana Jones, and ES 6 only exist in our heads.
And still not a single release date 😑🤣 King noctis, no those games aren’t in our heads they not in our hands either and won’t be for at least another 12-18 months. You mentioned Indy, how much of that did they show, oh yeah a logo and you think that’ll be out anytime soon 🤦🏻♂️🤣 🤣🤷🏻♂️
“ And still not a single release date 😑🤣 King noctis, no those games aren’t in our heads they not in our hands either and won’t be for at least another 12-18 months.” So what do you want them to do? Release those unfinished games right now? Fact of the matter is they do have games in production and all of their acquired studios aren’t there just to sit on their ass and do nothing.
They didn't own Bethesda, Ninja Theory, Obsidian plus more until recently.
But that statement does explain why they went on such a massive buying spree
But this time!! 🥴🤣
it's a good idea if they can actually deliver good games. it sucks having to wait indefinitely for interesting games sometimes.
This is great!! If there is a studio that can do this it DEFFO could be Xbox Studios that can!
Lmao because playstation hasnt already been doing this. Hell psvr alone has more releases than xbox studios, not to mention insomniac alone has put out 3 games in less than a year. . .
Especially if you take their track record into consideration.... Oh wait...
They really need to release at least 2 AAA exclusives before 2022 & release 2 more at the Q1 2022,if they can do that then they can start talking about wanting to release games quarterly a year.
Their only first party games that we’ve had last gen developed by their own first party were gears 4 5 from coalition, halo 5 from 343, forza horizon from playground (which only became first party the year they released horizon 4 in 2018) and forza Motorsport from turn 10, sea of thieves from rare. The rest of the exclusives were all second party or timed third party, ms flight sim, gears tactics, halo wars 2. Quantum break, sunset overdrive, ori dead rising 3. Crackdown 3. If anything last gen has shown is that Xbox has a bad track record with outside studios handling their ip. They have not even come close to being able to deliver one first party developed game every quarter since before this. But now 2 first party games per year seems very likely. 4 per year is ambitious.
Halo and Scorn this year. Forza M and Avowed early 2022. Hellblade and SOD3 2nd half. Everwild, Bethesda title ,Fable, Perfect Dark 2023. Plus some assumed timed exclusives sprinkled in like STALKER 2, 2nd Extinction and Mara
Have any of those games have release dates confirmed or you are just wishing here?
Clearly a release prediction based off the 4 games a year statement. Eldra said they must release 2 by this year And yes Scorn is slated for 2021 alomg with Halo so that's his 2 for this year right there. Avowed and Everwild are far into development so anyone would predict a timeline release within a year for those games. Only wild guess is Fable, Bethesda and Perfect Dark. But after 3-4 years of development by then, a release date should be close for those games. So unless you think these games will have 6+ years in development and or will have more than 4 release in the same year I don't get the downvotes. Unless you're a hater of course
I think they meant 4 first party titles a year like they stated back in 2019 which would mean Scorn isn't counted in that list since it's 3rd party and also pretty sure that one is a timed exclusive. Also... Isn't Project Mara first party since it's Ninja Theory's project? 🤔
@Stoney yup that is right I had those two mixed up. Just switch em on my list lol Point is they have the titles (that's been revealed) for the next 3-4 years to meet such a goal.
That's your wishful thinking but this is not true confirmed information. I don't think Scorn is a AAA title & it's more likely a timed exclusive. Hopefully XB fans will get some confirmed release dates on AAA exclusives releasing on XB at the E3 event this weekend.
Starting when, exactly?
Let's roll a dice, which ever number it lands on is the amount of years it'll take 😂
"upto 6 billion players"
I still find it funny every time they talk about bringing GamePass to BILLIONS of people. Yes, lots of people play games on their phones, mostly mobile games. If we're discussing console level games, it's seemingly evident that reaching the mobile market with AAA games requires a free to play model, which this is not. Also, just because 100 million people have played warzone across various devices, doesn't mean all those people are interested in games on GamePass. There's a large section of gamers that just play Call of duty and sports games all year long, year after year. And that would just be a tiny piece of the BILLIONS puzzle. I just can't fathom how this is something being seriously discussed.
I doubt they mean billions will play, Buy, Sub. They mean it will be available to billions. They'll reach billions by having GP on smart TV, Phones, PCs and Consoles in store to buy. That's what they mean.
@chiefJohn117 They reference their "audience", which would be their target demographic. It's just completely batshit crazy to me that they think just because people won't have to buy a console (but still have to pay $15/month), they're going to reach billions more people. I don't buy it for a second.
And boom Xbox TV stream has been confirmed. Told ya, that alone is billions
Even though mobile games are not for me, I think this is just representative of my age. Mobile is the fastest growing game segment out there. Doesn't do much for me personally, but that is still a pretty wide open market that nobody is really dominating just yet. Not saying MS will be that company, but I have a hard time knocking for trying to get a piece. Who knows, maybe if everyone is using a common interface to access their games (like GP app) more might move from mobile and take a chance on console gaming. Well consoles are expensive!! Oh, MS has a $299 system that is built to complement GP. Still too much? How about ALL ACCESS, it will only cost about $30 a month and you own the system after a couple of years. Low cost to entry for new customers. That is MS's game play.