Japan - Looks like the Wii is down by more than half a million units in one year, considerably worse than the PS3. Is the Wii losing momentum, is this a normal market-leader occurrence, or is this the result of a horrible holiday lineup?
Please let this be the beginning of the Wii's slip! Let the numbers continue to drop. Please!!!!!!!!!!!
PS3 had a price cut last year.
Any bad news for the wii is good news for me...... PS360 FTW.
This is bound to happen to any console that only has a couple of games that are actually worth playing.
Yet they had a record October for any console ever this year.Nintendo is doing fine.
PS3 is the only of the 3 systems to increase sales without a price drop. And that prooves the PS3 software blu-ray and games are very strong. 360 had to drop price and Wii didn't drop price obviously and didn't sell as much as they did last year.
"1.1 - Any bad news for the wii is good news for me...... PS360 FTW." That is so sad....
The ps3 had a price cut and it needed it terribly because it costed 600$ and it was slouching behind the wii and 360. Sony dropped the price to 400$ and now it is selling well. Remember that?
I think any console would lose momentum if it sold a bajillion copies every week.
looks at MS,LBP, R2 and Socom....hahah somebody got jokes..
I'm a Nintendo fan, but seriously, wtf with the Wii!? And not the Wii as much as its games. This year was really poor. After Mario Galaxy and Brawl....for the rest of the entire year, it's just been really crappy, with random games with poor excuses to use the nun-chucks coming out. Side-scrolling Mario, please come back! The DS version was good.
This probably has something to do with: 1. The economy 2. Casuals not buying games when they don't have money. 3. Everybody knows that hardcore gamers continue to buy consoles even if they don't have money, which is why the PS3 and 360 are hurting less from last year.
I am sooooo tired of that pic of Miyamoto.
everyone in japan already has 2?
No one else is buying the Wii. That toy has had it's time. Now it's the PS3's time. Oh oh oh oh! As the Plain White T's would say. I bet the PS3 outsells every console next year. My reputation is on the line here. TGSI
"No one else is buying the Wii. That toy has had it's time. Now it's the PS3's time. Oh oh oh oh! As the Plain White T's would say. I bet the PS3 outsells every console next year. My reputation is on the line here. TGSI" James the super sayain says:- It's the ps3's time lol? Why do u guys care so much....really its quite weird.
People at last starting to realise: 1. The software library stinks overall besides the 1st party games that are the sequels: Mario, Zelda, Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros. 2. After 2 months swinging around with the controller like a moron, people have seen the gimmick 3. It looks awfull on the new flatscreen HDTV and they see their friends with 360's and PS3's having HD games 4. Wii - 40 games on or over 8 out of 10, PS3 - 84 games on or over 8 out of 10, 360 - 130 games on or over 8 out of 10 5. Wii online sucks donkey balls 6. Gamecube hardware overclocked in a new case. Gamecube price at the end was 69 Euro, Wii price after 2 years still 250 Euro. Its like buying a bag of horsesh!t for the price of a bag of gold.
the word on the street is that no 1 plays their wii anymore(because thats all i hear from wii owners) and people are beginning to realize that. the wii matched the Gcube's original install base plus some, it got up their fast because it was cheaper than the rest, now that people realize the 360 and ps3 are the way to go and are much better, nintendo might as well just put a bullet in they headz. the wii pandemic is finally coming to an and just as i claimed. remember what PoSTradamus said? "wii sales will decline rapidly as HDTV prices become more affordable"- PoSTradamus.
I agree with point three. My parent's friends were all over the other week and came in while I was using my PS3. They were all very impressed when I started showed off all of the networking, video streaming, internet browser, picture and music streaming features etc. One of the wives admitted to making her husband get a Wii over a PS3/360 and I could hear the actual shame in her voice.
"2. After 2 months swinging around with the controller like a moron, people have seen the gimmick" It's comments like these that CONFIRM that u have no idea about the wii. Anybody that says "swinging the controller around like a moron" has no idea...because its simply not true. The person playing can act like a moron if he wishes, but really only a "moron" would do so as u barely have to move the remote in MOST cases to get what needs to be done. Seriously get over it, ur argument is flawed if u have no experience playinig it. (and saying things like "bought it one day sold it the next" doesnt cut it either)
So are we gonna start seeing "Is the Wii DOOmed?" articles now?
I don't think that Nintendo has lost much momentum. Let's just face it; most of Nintendo's momentum was sparked by supply and demand issues that most gamers have come to realize was induced by Nintendo themselves. No core gamer would argue that Nintendo focused more on selling millions of consoles and left software to an afterthought. They made it more apparent with such a poor holiday library. It's true that more casual gamers bought the Wii than core gamers, but that's no excuse to just leave them out. Core gamers bought the Wii for the same reason that I like Nintendo. Zelda, Mario, and Metroid are the key IPs. All of thoughs pick up and play party type games that have been released do nothing for the average gamer after the guest have gone home. So why has Nintendo done this to it's fans. It's very unusual for such a successful console to not having a holiday lineup. It's kind of like saying "[email protected]$!k you, we have your money". They may have shot themselves in the foot. Nintendo can no longer brag about being the cheapest console as of now. Microsoft has taken that position by being the cheapest HD gaming console for the buck, having the largest library for current consoles, and being fifty dollars cheaper than a console far less technical and cheaper to manufacture. Just what is Nintendo doing?
Seriously just shut it, we've all been over that sh/t before =/.
winning more money than anyone else.
I can't believe they still don't have a ninty console with an HDD. Everyone thought 64 would get one at one point...but if not surely the next ninty would...right? Wii HD will have 1 I bet. Risky bet though.
Blu-ray is the future, japan likes innovation. The wii was a trend, not much more than 5 or so quality nintendo branded wii games.
... "horrible holiday lineup" doesn't quite say it.
Septic tanks can only hold so much crap....
This year: Blu-ray is rapidly growing in japan and PS3 has GOTY MGS4 and a dozen quality sony branded releases. Not to mention PSP #1 seller most of 08'. I expect big things for PS3 and PSP in japan 2009.
One day the Wii will be seen for what it is just like New kids on the block, Vanilla Ice, The Gobots, Barney, Power Rangers, bell bottoms, and Jerry curls did. It's a freaking rip off joke that's way overpriced and hopefully fails soon.
I was happy when I first saw the product and then I did some search on it and figure out that it was as powerful as the xbox 1. Geez, thanks for staying in the last generation and fooling millions of people with this garbage. Oh well, better you than me sucker.
Lol at all the Wii hate, just one thing happened and its the end of Nintendo =D. Love it, its like if this rage comes out of no where and they show their true colors with it =D!
ur exactly right sidar.......unfortuantely its because their consoles of choice are not havin the success the wii.That in turn makes them hate the wii even more.
Good for Nintendo. They lost to the ps1 with the N64. Gamecube took third to the xbox1. Now they are back on top. In fact, wii is winning by such a high margin that everyone knows neither MS or sony will ever catch up. So all that is left to do is jeer and scorn. I gave away my wii(not my thing) but will get another one now that the wii motion plus out and they are doing 16 player online fps with wii motion plus. That is a game I want to try.
You are referring to the Conduit, but you do realise that M+ won't do much for the IR input...you know that right? I bet M+ will be used for grenates and Melee attackes...not sure how it can support the IR...unless we are talking about rotation( wielding the gone on his side)
but what about animal crossing?!
Whenever bad news comes out for the ps3 everyone says stuff like, "wait tell GOW3 comes out", or "BD is the future". But one little bad news about the wii and they claim its all over for it.
Then supply the Wii equivalent to "Wait for GOW3" or "BD is the Future" Oh wait...you can't. Because Nintendo HASN'T GOT ANYTHING!!! Have fun playing 3 hours of LostWinds on WiiWare.
No jecht, It just seems that Wii owners aren't being part of the FANBOY war that much(on this website that is). No wonder they don't go : "GAME X? WAIT TILL GAME Y COMES OUT." It's just stupid. Also we will have fun playing lostwinds! (like if nothing else is out there, if lostwinds is the only thing you can come up with it clearly shows that you are just hating. There are quality games on the Wii, but a hater is blind for those things to see. But whatever boils your goat
The last quality game that appeared on the Wii is nearly a year old. The Wii is plagued with shovelware, and Nintendo follows the evergreen way of releasing games. I doubt you've even played LostWinds, otherwise you wouldn't say that you had fun with it. The game is literally 3 hours long, it's too short to have fun with it. And if you think that Wii fanboys aren't "participating in the console wars" then you've confined yourself to this site. The Nintendrones are potentially the worse fanboys in existence, blinding themselves to Nintendo's mediocrity because they can't stand to see what Nintendo has become, and when confronted they act just like you.
What are you talking about? The Conduit, Madworld, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter 3, ta-da! What's really pathetic about the Wii hate here is that despite this "bad news" the Wii is still selling more than any other console (and according to this article, in Japan!) In case anyone hasn't noticed, Nintendo hasn't changed, at all. Games like GoW or GoW (lol, Gears and God of War) would never have been on a Nintendo console (pfft, which is perfectly fine by me)
Actually the worst fanboys would be the 360 and PS3 ones, nothing but fighting back and forth about "Delaystation" and the microwave. Then jumping on the Wii as if they are almighty gods and goddess because of the machines they have chosen to purchase. Also another fallible part why only hitting Nintendo? They've done what they've needed to do, made the system and a few games to help get the system started. While following the demand for another Mario, Zelda, etc what more do they NEED to do? All of that rests on the 3rd parties and such. Which are starting to ramp up efforts, from the titles which were mentioned in the post above mine. Also, you know that their are quite a few Japanese games that will never see the light of day for quite some time over here that are doing remarkably okay over in Japan? Many of which derived from animes which if by some reason someone was living under a rock or something is a bit of a big thing over there. An example is Naruto with a recent one that came out I think "Naruto Gekitou Taisen EX3" and others that were released at, near or during launch. So if the argument is going to be Nintendo, stop right there and look at another company. Resting all the blame on one sole individual hurts the argument quite a bit as they are just one not many. Add in 3rd parties. Furthermore - lost winds was fun, I was given it as a gift and found it fun. short games can be fun look at heavenly sword - 5 hours, yet fun. Different genre, different approach, may be comparing apples to oranges but since we are talking about the length of games then I feel I can put this one. PS. - Last thing I swear. No such thing as a console war, this is all just people who are insecure and are trying to justify their purchase by backing it up with sales and games that have come to it. If you buy a system buy it and be done with it. Fighting it out with another system to prove why you purchase your system is just plain foolish in my opinion.
" And if you think that Wii fanboys aren't "participating in the console wars" Reading is hard these days, i don't blame ya some schools are getting worse. I didn't say they aren't participating, i was reffering this website, you barely see 360PS3 SACKS BALLZZZZ, if you were to compare the war between 360 owners and Ps3 owners...its just sad dude and you know it. Lost winds was good, 3 hours or not. I finished shadow of the collosus in 5 hours...so thats a bad game too?(HELL NO THAT GAME WAS F*cking ePiC) And what LokMessier said. @LokMessier Bubbles up =)
Xander-RKoS and sidar Gamers with a level head and don't seem to find a fault with any system :D.
@Xander: Ummm, I don't know if you know this, but all of those games are unproven IP's. You can't claim them as being good because they aren't out yet. Also, I don't know about your comprehension or anything, but the Wii WAS selling more than any other console. You see, this article is meant to show that the Wii consoles sales numbers are dropping radically, far worse than even the PS3. And finally, Nintendo has changed A LOT. They went from a family friendly company that still remembered who it is that keeps them afloat, to a family friendly company that said F*** You to the people who stuck by them even when Sony trounced them for two generations in a row, by a WIDE margin. @LokMessier: Nintendo fanboys have a much greater sense of entitlement. Mention Nintendo and they perceive King-like status that WAS once deserved, but is no longer. Nintendo fanboys tend to deify Nintendo, and more specifically Shigeru Miyamoto, as the Holy Duo of gaming. Proof can be provided simply by suggesting that there is a better developer than Shigeru Miyamoto among Nintendo fanboys. Next, the evergreen policy isn't Nintendo doing "what they needed to do". It's them milking a game for as long as possible. I don't mean a franchise, I mean a game. Tell me, when's the next time you expect to see a Mario game. And I don't mean a spinoff, I mean an actual Mario game? Not for a bloody long time. See, Nintendo is quite content at releasing one or two well-known first party games, and then ride them for as long as possible before considering the next installment. This is where mini-games come in handy, and is the reason why Nintendo doesn't release heavy hitters very often. Nintendo are geniuses at creating demand for even the most mediocre things. They release quality, then wave after wave of sub-standard filth, and then when people have had enough they finally release quality again. And onto my final point with you. When you pay 10 or 15 dollars for an online game nowadays, you expect more bang for your buck. LostWinds and the like are not that. 3 hours is ridiculously short. And I don't know what you were playing, or how you were playing it, but Heavenly Sword is not 5 hours. That's like saying MGS4 is 5 hours because you can do a speed run through it. The point is that Nintendo are Kings of making you think you're getting more than what you actually are. The Wii was supposed to be a next gen console, but Nintendo new it was just a Gamecube 1.5 so they marketed it as "new-gen". The games for the Wii are largely shovelware from third parties, and too far in between from first party quality titles. Nintendo knows that so they market gimmick controllers. WiiWare is just a joke, so Nintendo hardly focuses anything on it. Nintendo are the Illusionists of the gaming industry. @sidar: If you want to begin an insult match, you're merely proving you're a Nintendo fanboy, thus arguing against your own point that Nintendo fanboys don't participate in the console wars on this site.
"No jecht, It just seems that Wii owners aren't being part of the FANBOY war that much(on this website that is). No wonder they don't go : "GAME X? WAIT TILL GAME Y COMES OUT." It's just stupid. Also we will have fun playing lostwinds! (like if nothing else is out there, if lostwinds is the only thing you can come up with it clearly shows that you are just hating. There are quality games on the Wii, but a hater is blind for those things to see. But whatever boils your goat" I agree, i dont remember bashing other consoles. I mean how childish are some of u haters (most probably are childs). haters say "the wii is childish and so are nintendo"...well when the NES came out it was aimed at kids and their families. Their still doing the same today so i dont know what the problem is. Metal gear was on the NES aimed at kids....So whats with all the hate. Maybe some of u need to go to counsling because obviously its really eating up ur life in some way....
I'm really confused now? You said that Nintendo didn't have any games to say "just wait for," like GoW3. But, that's a lie. All those games I mentioned are games we Wii owners are looking forward to them. Madworld has gotten nothing but praise in the previews, Red Steel may have suffered, but we've seen Wii Motion Plus at E3, The Conduit is, well, The "freakin'!" Conduit and regardless of what it's like in the end, most of us are looking forward to it the same way people were looking forward to Gears of War 2, God of War 2, Little Big Planet, etc. Same thing with Monster Hunter 3 And as far as Nintendo is concerned. I like how much you say they have changed. They went from a family friendly company to a family friendly company. Makes so much sense. You say they are telling me "F*** you", but with games like Super Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess (games I thoroughly enjoyed) I really can't believe you. See, unlike some morons, I'm not expecting Nintendo to produce another Mario or Zelda game in a matter of few years, considering those games have been 5 years apart or so. Wii Sports, Play, Fit, and Music don't bother me so much (I own all but Play for when I don't have a ton of time to spend on a more hardcore game) So as someone who has grown up with Nintendo and their products and games, anyone who thinks they have changed either has a bad memory, is lying, or is pretty dim.
Yet that can be said about ANY console. Every person believes they are the king of something, most people [ at least that I know or have read their comments about on this site are already claiming consoles as 'kings' of certain things] For example Xbox360 was the FPS "king" PS3 is supposed to be the RPG king though some just say it is the all around machine. Either way they will designate their own as king. As for Mario, well Mario Galaxy was out and that was a particular spin-off, then Mario Kart Wii. Lets see after the fact mario has been in space it probably takes quite a bit of time to think up a story to put mario in next after he has flown through the galaxy. Either they can think of something else or simply make it an RPG element as super mario RPG was. To me the process seems more like 'heavy-hitter' ie. Mario, Zelda or what not. Make a mini-game, because well most of the mini-games are well established; such as Mario kart, mario tennis, baseball, etc. Then when the idea for the next mario is done they bring that out. It seems like the spin offs are simply games that help tide people over until the next 'heavy hitter' comes out.
That's all that needs to be said. That is bound to move consoles, especially after this. Can't wait for this to get released everywhere else...
"15 - Monster Hunter. That's all that needs to be said. That is bound to move consoles, especially after this. Can't wait for this to get released everywhere else..." Yeh nintendo are already moving many consoles (especially compared to the other 2)...dont let this article blind your judgment. The fanboys on here wil take any kind of negative feedback on here..no matter how petty it is. If the wii is down this year its really not surprising since its been out for two years already, plus there still WELL and ABOVE anything else on the market...hey guys. @Pirethorn Below me :- "I just plain don't like the controller. It's not fun to use. There's good games on the Wii, like Galaxy, but I can't help but feel it would have been better with a GameCube controller." Oh yeh collecting and shooting the star bits wouldve been MUCH better and easier...>>>>> with a gamecube controller....>>>?? I really hope your kidding @STonecold3 Below me "WII IS FINISHED PS3 VS XBOX360 WII NOT EVEN IN THE NEXT GEN AND WILL NEVER BE CLASSED AS ONE YOUR RIGHT ITS LAST GEN YOU CANT WATCH BLURAY OR NEITHER DVD SO WII IS A LOST TO NINTENDO" Yeh and my NES never played VHS tapes either, and my super nes could never make waffles!
The article mainly did, but apparently since almost no one believes that the Wii is still moving despite what people say, and the fact that it has no good games I had to bring that one out and state that. Though it will in fact move consoles, the only thing that is uncertain is just how high it will make the demand for said console and how fast it will move them. That is very true mini-mario [ particularly focusing on that Wii comment about being above.] Either way +bubbles :)
I just plain don't like the controller. It's not fun to use. There's good games on the Wii, like Galaxy, but I can't help but feel it would have been better with a GameCube controller. That's the biggest problem the Wii has, the best games could all be played with a GameCube controller and lose very little in terms of fun.
thats right ps360 FTW
The wii still outsells ms and sony put together. Even if it does slow down is will still sell more than sony or ms monthly. Wii has won. Its over. All that is left is second place. No one saw this coming. No one.
Boy, talk about spoilers...xD
Everyone that wants one has one. That's why my gamestop is begging people to buy one to make room in the back. 360 is doing the best thanks to a greatly times price cut. PS3 would be flying off the shelf it it could survive a price cut to $250 - $299, maybe next Christmas.
wow thats a huge difference, but can they make it up in the next few weeks lol. i still can't understand why everyone wants one, lemme think they bought it for their kids and ppl their are lots and lots of kids around... i only bought one for my kids, they played it for a month and now it's gathering dust, it is a gimmick big time, and it's about time ninty made decent games for it, but they don't care they have the money and the last laugh, just shows how much they really care for us all as their customers..
Sounds like the sony zombies are pouncing on this story. Shame they should shut up seeing as they only have like 6 games worth playing. The fact is alot of people already have the system. Purchased most likely before christmas. I'd like to see the software sales numbers compared to sony and 360. That will be the best indicator of this seasons performance. But the poor new game line-up does suck! I'll say it again though. 2009 is gonna see some awesome titles for wii. last i checked the best thing still yet to be coming out for PS3 is maybe possibly grand Turismo4: The non-demo and maybe killzone.
PS3 VS XBOX360 WII NOT EVEN IN THE NEXT GEN AND WILL NEVER BE CLASSED AS ONE YOUR RIGHT ITS LAST GEN YOU CANT WATCH BLURAY OR NEITHER DVD SO WII IS A LOST TO NINTENDO
First it's current Gen -.-' Next gen is still years away, is it really so hard to think of today instead of the future? Everyone has a DVD player why does Nintendo need to put one in? the neither isn't needed. How is it a lost to Nintendo, not to you know be in this whole fake console war thing, but the last time I looked Wii was still you know up their in heaven while the PS3 and Xbox360 waged their war on Earth. I think that's about it, could do more but I'm bored already.
The content coming from a large % of these posters, are just in some way trying to make some situation look dire for Nintendo. Even the headline is worded in a way that is pretty..exaggerated. It feels like its an excuse to give fanboys flame for their fire. You wanna know whats funny though? as supposedly bad as the Wii is doing in Japan, its still the highest selling console this year, and has more than a 5 million console lead on the ps3. If Wii's in trouble outselling its competition, what does that mean for the competition? The HD consoles in japan have been so sluggish in that country that the only place they could go was up. This is much ado about nothing. Nevermind the global economic situation, and other relevant factors that come along with it. I can't believe some of the ridiculous comments I've read. Some of these ppl need to wake up from fantasy land. Thank goodness for Sidar, Product and a few others to keep some sort of logical posts to be read. It's become like trying to find a diamond in the ruff, here.
lol at picture "you caught me!!"
is regarding Japan. Yes, the Wii is slowing down big time in Japan, yet it's still outselling other consoles combined. As for the rest of the world, the Wii is selling so much, that it will break the PS2's record for most consoles sold in a year. Nintendo is pumping out 2.5 million Wii consoles per month and selling them all. Last year it was 1.8 The Wii is actually doing much better this year from a World Wide standpoint. As for Japan, it appears that most people who want a Wii have one already. At least until Monster Hunter 3 is released that is.
Nintendo will drop the price and the mums, dads and retirees will flock to this crappest console ever once more.
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