Master Chief is synonymous with the Halo franchise, and even one of the most iconic video game characters, but it's time for him to retire.
"In fact, it could quite literally be Master Chief going MIA, the UNSC collectively agreeing to let him live out his days on a Halo ring after saving humanity over and over again." .....what in the actual....? Gaming journalism at its finest
When 343i reduced the Master Chief’s role in Halo 5 it wasn’t received well, I think they now know that he should remain the hero of the franchise.
@knightedHollow Wasn't Halo 3 was supposed to be his last outing? "Finish the fight." ODST and Reach showed that Halo works well with and without Master Chief. 343i are just incompetent. There's nothing wrong with not wanting something to be dragged out. Let the Chief rest.
Halo without master chief, is just not Halo.
Yup, let’s retire Mario and Kratos while we are at it…. Makes no sense
Ya, there are certain iconic characters that define their games. Master Chief is Halo's iconic character. The series needs to become less reliant on him, maybe, but, Master Chief should be there for a while.
Master Chief being left on an artificial ring world sitting atop an ancient alien artifact and being abandoned could quiet possibly be the worst ending for the character. What a horrid idea
@LucasRuinedChildhood If you had actually played Halo 3, you'd know the original trilogy was left on a cliff hanger....and was set up for Halo 4.
Rumor has it that this will be his last hurrah.
Sure it’s going to be master chief last outing and also rumor has it that Mario is finally going to kill bowser and all his minions with a nuke on the next game live happily ever after and in the end he was telling his grandchildren’s a bed stories of his youth.
Nope master chief is halo. No one wants to play as anyone else well not me anyway!
Give it 20-30 years or so and no one will give two shits who is the lead of Halo 12. By that time you will probably be to to old to even care or not even be the target audience anymore.
Lol 20-30 years id probs agree, i wasnt really thinking that far ahead. I mean thats what it would take for fans to move on, a fan base that didnt have master chief in their child hood.
Lol you be surprised how fast 20-30 years go man. I thought my kids would love everything I grew up on, they give NO shits about my favorites are or do. I sat back like... this characters existence will die with my generation. And the future of the character will see them completely different. It’s wild how much we hold onto these characters and in the end, companies just waiting for our generations death.lol
If you think about master chief he is not really a person per se. He is just more the constant lead character of Halo games. His real name is John-117. If they put David-228 in and called him master chief I doubt anyone would care. It is more the role then the name of the person in the game.
@Lexreborn2 Every Halo fan knows Halo without master chief, is just another game that uses the title to sell. Reach and ODST are clear evidence of this
Actually, I’d rather have a character creator so I can design my own cool avatar. Master Chief has never appealed to me as a character, cause it’s basically just a green helmet. Just very ‘bland’, design & personality wise. Compare it to Sam Gideon, in Vanguish, and there’s someone interesting behind the helmet, which also comes back into dialogue and tiny mannerisms (the cigarette flick).
People seemed to like Reach, ODST and halo 2. I think most Halo fans would be fine with not playing as the Chief for a while.
ODST and Reach were both great games and neither of them had Master Chief.
Craig should be the new main character 😍
Unfortunately, Craig suffered blunt force trauma to the head and was left dead near the bottom of an elevator. Thoughts and prayers for Craig (forever gone ... but never forgotten), and death to the UNSC
Why? Chief is halo, halo is chief.... not everything needs to be changed or reinvented just because, there has to be a genuine reason for it or it can come off as a bad thing.
It should never be Master chief's last outing that would be like killing off Kratos
I don’t think they should kill him rather... let enough time pass that he’s assumed dead and reinvent the game. It was risky, but easier to do with Kratos. It’s a action game. Same as with devil may cry. Dante is a third of the gameplay now. How do you do that with a FPS? I say take it to the future and end the fight, or do a complete reboot.
Its almost a given kratos will die. Kinda foretold in last gow. It will be controversial for sure but im willing to bet when/if you take control of Atreus he will be different yet familiar to his father
@Jukins I agree. Kratos is clearly, in game, showing signs of age. He isn’t the incredible powerhouse that he was in comparison. His story is coming to an end. They've taken him from Olympus to Norse mythology and completely switched the game up. My only hope is that Atreus keeps some of that rage. It’s cool Kratos is trying to teach him to control it and not let it control him. (So he doesn’t eliminate another realm of gods) But I think however Kratos is “ended” is what’s going to turn Atreus into the new God of war.
@Deathdeliver I could see the same thing happening with Master Chief who is really John 117. They can bring in a new character like David 222 and he can be trained by master chief and eventually, take over the role as master chief.
I agree with this should be the last master chief Halo. The story in Halo isn’t the best. In truth it’s pretty generic. The gameplay, the enemies, the look of it is dated. Halo isn’t a bad game, but everything does feel old if that makes sense. I think this is all largely because of the ”if it ain’t broke” mentality. Thing is Halo isn’t “broke” but it’s kinda handcuffed because it’s chief. He’s handcuffed to this repeated fight with the same enemy types after so many games and a sprinkle of new ones. Now what if Chief does finish the fight? No more of the alien buddy cop, no more flood, no more super monologue monkey. No more of battle rifle and scorpion tank and so on. Put the new game in the future after ages of peace and there’s a race that’s taken the all clear as a sign to come a conquer. They’d been waiting for the legendary chief to fade. Waiting for the war to end and be sure any heroes of that era were gone. Now you could bring that gameplay to the future. It’s still got Halos “bones” but you can enjoy these all new weapons, all new enemies, all new movements and features of the new hero, and get that feeling of the exploration in the first halo all over again. When the music dropped on this strange world and the flood appeared for the first time. The multiplayer can be brought to the future with the new movements, abilities, and gameplay too. There is zero surprise to me in Halo games and it hasn’t been for years. Coolest thing to me was being overwhelmed at the end of ODST if that was the one. Things about Halo has to change. Each version sells less than the one before it. I think the change needs to start with chief and that frees up restrictions on everything else.
I agree halo does need to change but master chief should not be part of that change. Look at god of war, that needed a change after 3 and it did change but it needed kratos at the helm, i wouodnt have wanted to play with anyone else and its the same with halo, no master chief no party. The only thing here is that i dont really know how you reboot an fps.
@Flawlessmic I agree. I thought about GOW, Resident evil, assassins creed is FAR from where it started, and so on. Even COD changes eras to keep things as fresh as possible and can change a lot from game to game. This makes me feel like they might have written chief into a corner. They should have never made him fight the same creatures for this long. Because they have it’s kinda like dang, only way out of this is to end it all and make a new chapter. As a FPS I think to make it new the old has to go. It’s working for COD. Every, damn, year.... 🤢
@deathdeliverer Im with ya man, not to sure they reboot it but i think after infinite it will be time and im sure it can be done cause i coukdve said the same about gow and somehow they did it. But yea master chief needs to be there, that could just be me though, iv always gotten attached to the orginal characters i grew up with so i dont like change in that way. Well see how infinite does, that first showing was far from impressive so hopefully there using this time wisely.
I'd recommend some of the expanded universe materials if that's your take. Another ODST off shoot is likely after Infinite, but the core games aren't ditching Chief. For everyone like you who, respectfully, only have a basic understanding of the complete story, there are hardcore fans who want something completely different. If you want proof, just look at Guardians. Merely reducing Chief's screen time led to many complaints.
@Atom 1) No offense but Guardians sucked. Damn the screen time lol. Absolute trash. Multiplayer is Halo. Story, horse poop. 2) Basic understanding of the complete story? Gotcha. Just like star wars the books are far deeper with Luke Skywalker for example. Tell that to the people that bomb the movies. All they can go on is what’s presented to them. Same as Halo. As far as what’s presented, in game, it’s sucks butt story wise since halo 3 ended. So I ask, are you seriously telling me Halo-The games- are good writing? Even mediocre? Or are you trying to include the books? That’s niche at best and yes I’ve read them and watched the movies and yes they are excluded because most people indulge in what’s in front of them. 3) sure they could do side stories. Mainline story still needs to push the narrative in another direction OR reboot. Follow the books at that point.
Then, as you would know, the thing with Guardians is that it needed more of the back story (that we mostly got from its EU) to fill in for its weaknesses in story. That was a bad move on 343's part. More casual players were left with a story that was light on Chief, and introduced things that made little sense to them. Between ODST, Reach, and Halo Wars 1 & 2, I think they've done a good job of going beyond Chief in some instances in games. All of the books and comics show me that the story, lore, and world building are quite good and not dull. But to drop Chief from the main series? There's no way that works out for them. Halo 4 was good storytelling, and should have served as a good transition to the forerunner saga. They got their footing again with HW2, which probably has the best storytelling of all of the games. Halo 5 was more like the original cut of the Justice League. They skipped past way too much background and character building, leaving audiences confused and aggrevated with the final rushed story. There's a cool story there, but they couldn't figure out how to slow down and tell it. Turning Halo into a generic COD story means throwing away 20 years of work. Don't see that being very smart.
You have no clue wtf you're talking about. We've had odst, reach and Halo 2 was split with arbiter. Halo 5 simply wasn't executed well. Halo 4 did a great job with Chiefs story and making him human and not a robot.
@ChiefJohn Halo seems to have not been heading in the right direction since 3 ended if you ask me. 3 was truly the last good halo. And the ending of ODST (or was it reach when you’re in the losing battle and fighting till you’re overwhelmed) was epic. Other than that how long can you fight the same enemy, use the same guns, and do the sameish stuff? I’m not a Halo hater, I’ve owned every single game. The problem is the games are poorly written (once bu give and the original idea left) and the books won’t translate good to games. Your imagination fills the gaps in books so that’s moot. Witcher does it well though. Go figure. I agree that making chief more human was fine, but now he’s a chatterbox. Like I said, Halo sales go down with each iteration. I think 3 was the last real up tick. I’d rather them move past chief, than move past Halo.
Umm did you play halo 4? Cause you're fighting a new enemy and it was definitely good. They did a good job with halo 4s story so odk why you feel 3 was the last good one. You messed up with 5. It had no real direction and added nothing new to the story and Lore other than Cortana as a threat which they didn't execute well. I personally didn't like reach I never understood what people liked about it. Nothing other than the ending was memorable
There were many people who didn't enjoy playing as the arbiter. There were also complaints in 3 were only one person being the chief in multi player. Why I agree that 5's story sucked people do want to be the main character.
They should make video game version of: Halo 3 2: Halo 4 The Movie. Homeruuuuun for it!
what? why, MC is literally the face of Halo and is pretty famous and well liked
Sounds like a smart move. They clearly don’t know what the fans want with that wack launch version and how many of these games not made by Bungie were actually good?
For real. The developers literally said “we knew when we took over we’d have to make it our own.” Like wtf, that’s the opposite of the idea. You’re taking over a beloved franchise not making a new IP. Granted Bungie started the downward trend with Reach IMO. Started to feel more like CoD and other games around reach then got worse with 343i.
There are MANY game franchises that this could be said about. Mario,Link,Kratos,Nathan and so many more could be retired but try imagining a Zelda game with no link? I say as long as the character has a reason to fight then let him fight. Some game characters it makes sense to retire but MC ain't one...
That’s the thing though. Link is the hero of time. It’s a different Link in basically every Zelda. Him and Gannon are in a eternal struggle but it’s also why the game can be in so many different places with so many different looks, feels, and new gameplay elements. It’s how it written. It gets them out the Halo issue. GOW appeared to write itself into a corner with because there was only so many Greek gods to kill. Not only did they take him to a new mythological area to live out his years, they even changed the entire game. Big risk but damn did it pan out. Nathan can get old too, but there’s always ruins to discover and treasure to find. Worst case scenario, put him in a desperate situation and reboot him like they did with tomb raider. With Halos writing, they have made him fight the same enemies for FAR too long. He doesn’t have a reborn to fight again story like link. He isn’t fighting different mythology hopping NOR reinventing the gameplay like God of war. He isn’t in a literal cartoon like Mario. Each game is like a totally different episode. Might be duck dodgers. Might be Elmer Fudd. (Can’t believe you compared a serious story game like halo to Mario) I think “the fight” has gone on too long to move to something else and the gameplay has been the same for too long to make chief drastically change. Either reboot the whole thing, and make THIS fight shorter so it can move to other fights, or end chiefs fight and have a Future Hero rise up. Still Halo, but with some totally new style, enemies, weapons, and writing.
Yes I'm aware it's a different link in every Zelda games however it's still a character we all have come to know as Link. It wouldn't be the same if they mad a Zelda game without a version of link.
you know damn well Nintendo wrote it that way so they can milk Link and Zelda to death! I dare them to make a new game like Zelda but not name it Zelda and the hero is named Kink. no they won't because they know it will be looked as a new IP and not sell as much! new IP and Nintendo don't blend!
Right, but Links writing, it’s story makes his situation ok. I understand the idea of chief being iconic, his story and writing however, are not. That’s why a article like this exist about chief and not Link.
Non of that matters when it comes to what people identify with. Story or no story people want to see Chief in a Halo game just like they want to see Link in a Zelda game. Removing MC from Halo would be a bad idea look how Halo 5 turned out.
He's gonna take off his helmet at the end and you'll see Phil Spencer's face grinning.
The real issue is the piss poor writing of his character these days. He talks too much. Look at 1-3 at how he only spoke when he needed to, short lines, now he just goes on and on rambling.
It’s 99% of the issue. It’s written into a corner at this point.
Not sure exactly what you mean. If you mean it’s written into a corner as in it literally has nowhere to go, then I disagree. If you mean it’s written into a corner as in the writers have gotten lazy and just write cliches and poor dialogue, then I agree. A good writer could create a million new stories in this universe, it’s so vast. I was thinking of writing a Halo game spec script myself but seems like it’s probably pointless.
I mean your second point. They have given him a personality with all the talking he does, a “who he is and what he does” if you will. They’d need to restart his CHARACTER in my opinion or change the character. The universe itself could go a infinite number of ways. The way the games go though and what they’ve been about, what chiefs like.... it’s bad.
🤣😂WTF, that is like saying we should see no more Kratos, Zelda or Mario game games.
Your crazy, would any one said Mario Bros to retired ?
Halo wars 1 was actually a good Halo game without the Chief. It can be done if the story and gameplay are good. Remember that Halo 2, you also play as the arbiter? It’s just that Halo 5s campaign sucked and Lock was boring.
Dumb take. Should Nintendo retire Link? Sony retire Kratos or any of their other mascots with never ending series? No. They need to keep rolling with MC and Cortana as long as the voice actors can keep doing it. Definitely like the recurring side characters and they need more of those.
As I say every time these articles come up, (A.creed, uncharted etc) if you've had enough, then stop playing. Don't ask them to stop making things others still enjoy.
343 said the MC saga would wrap up with a trilogy so obviously this is the last game with him, idk why this article even exist. Do you MFs even play and follow Halo? I would love an ODST 2 (can even reboot the franchise by calling it "Spartan" or something) after infinite that start at the beginning of the covenant battle. Nb4 ppl ask why call it Spartan if you're an ODST. You'd become a Spartan at the end of the game and the sequel
The problem is, at least in my opinion, the weakest games in the series have been the ones where Chief was not in them or a minor character - ODST, Reach Halo 5 - so going off that history I would definitely disagree with the author of the article. We need Chief front and center for the foreseeable future. God of War kept Kratos over multiple games and look how that turned out. It's not the Chief that is the problem rather the game writing and gameplay which is getting a bit rusty, change that and Halo will be fine.
He is too Iconic to the Xbox brand. Every time they launch a new Halo, the same articles seem to come out. Not sure why? But I'm looking forward to the game.
If they get rid of Chief then no one will care about Halo anymore, look what happened when they reduced his roll in 5.
I disagree, if a franchise is not stale, then why does it need to be the last? Halo at the moment is not stale, and the Halo universe is one of the vastest in gaming.
HALO 5 is not even in the top played xbox games list. When HALO was in its prime (XBOX 360) it was always in the top 5 games played the entire life of the console. HALO 5 isn't even top 50
That is because Halo gamers still play Halo 3.
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