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There's a Good Reason for Returnal's Lack of a Save Function

Returnal is an excellent game, but its lack of a save function has many players irked. But there's a good reason for it.

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GamingSinceForever1504d ago

I get that a lack of save points is part of the game, but damn it would be nice to have access to more health. I finally reached the 2nd boss fight and almost beat it on my first try and then suddenly I was killed. It took me forever to get to that point in the game so I had to cut if off for the night. So disappointing.

Applejack1504d ago

You gotta use the replicators, buy the astronaut figure or have a parasite to survive a killing blow. The game was designed to be difficult but the only real problem is not having a save and quit option if for example you can’t keep your PS5 in rest mode or the power goes out.

NecrumOddBoy1504d ago

What they should have is a drop pod as a save point. You drop it from the menu and save right there. So when you turn the PS5 and game back on, you are back in the game.

CaptainHenry9161504d ago

Or just keep upgrading your health and find a parasite that adds more health

WantedTnR1503d ago

Or they release a patch to fix something and instead delete my save permanently when I almost had a platinum and would have finished the game within roughly 20-25 hours. So yes a save function would’ve been nice especially if it was anything like most games with a few save slots just in case something like this happened. Just a function to save your progress after a boss fight would’ve been enough. Whatever though unfortunately I’m out $70 for buying digital and won’t be playing again. Which is even more unfortunate because it was an awesome game.

GamingSinceForever1503d ago

I came across some of those parasites and the trade-off didn't fit my style. One gave me a lot of health but the cooldown on the melee and dash was unforgivable. Lol!

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buffig1504d ago

After you've fought the second boss once, you can get back there very quickly. There's a portal to the second biome and then another portal at the foot of the mountain, taking you straight to the boss. When I lost the first time I fought him, I was back fighting him again within 15 minutes. I do think the lack of save is slightly overblown. Looking at my stats, I've played 16 hours. I've died 20 times and I've just unlocked the boss of the 4th biome

GamingSinceForever1503d ago

Hey I did find the portal that you spoke of getting back to the 2nd boss so I was able to finally beat him. Then I died in the 3rd biome, but found out that you can get back to it from the opening biome. This game is starting to connect areas similar to Bloodborne which is ok with me.

RosweeSon1503d ago

I hear that. Normally I’ll either do it first time or get very close or then spend an hour trying to replicate and do that one extra little something to finish it 😏😑🤣 if I had more time great but I don’t 😅😏🤣 maybe when I finally clear up my backlog around 2024 🥴🤣 I will play it before then but yeah games like this just so annoying things to take you out and oh that’s an hour down the drain 😏🤷🏻‍♂️ 🤣

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Bathyj1504d ago

I just beat the second boss and man, I don't think I've ever feel adrenaline like that playing a game in over 40 years of gaming. My run was so good but took me over an hour. It was my 3rd attempt at him and I knew how much was on the line.

That's what makes this game what it is. Save points would ruin that. If you don't see that then this game just isn't for you and that's fine. I'm not even gonna say git gud or anything. It's just not your game.

I'll say this, each time you get a bit further, it's not so hard to get back there. Portals open. I just got the best grapple hook ever. The game does open up. And I'm told after the 3rd be boss you actually restart from there. Can't wait.

CaptainHenry9161504d ago (Edited 1504d ago )

The third is a lot easier too. That's a relief lol . It's a reason for that grapple hook. You're definitely going to need it

buffig1504d ago

That's true. After the third boss, you don't have to start all over. That's part of why I'm having trouble understanding what all the fuss is about. You can go straight to the 2nd and 3rd biome from biome 1. You can teleport to the top of the mountain in biome 2, from the base. And after biome 3, you restart from that point. Even in biome 3, I think I'm right in saying that you can teleport to the base of the tower from any teleporter. I'm currently on biome 4 and I dont yet think I've had a run long enough to warrant having to save.

GameZenith1504d ago

Its not my game cause I am an adult with a full-time job, wife, and 2 kids. I do not have the time to binge 2-3 hours into something because I know my progress would be loss if I turned it off or if my console kicked back to the launch screen.

I seek games that respects my time.

FlavorLav011503d ago (Edited 1503d ago )

Same story here, I’m still enjoying it though somehow. Maybe I’m decent at the game...dunno. Either way it’s a great game, and progression is had in every run. This type of game just redefines conventional progress in games. You do lose stats after every life lost, but if you’re attentive you pick up several permanent upgrades as well as enemy and map knowledge along the way. This game totally respects my time with the quality of detail and design that went into creating this game. Likely my most highly recommendable game so far this year.

jukins1503d ago

Lol i love these kind of people. So busy with work and family. Such a unique situation. /s

Another fanboy who has such a strong opinion on something they havent played because someone else said it..and to justify this they act as if theyre the only person in the world who has a full time job and family lol. Crazy how im able to work TWO jobs 3 kids and a wife and still have time for returnal

Paleblood1504d ago

I totally relate to your experience. While I was fighting bossess, knowing that I could loose EVERYTHING made my adrenaline and focus level get HIGH.

The feeling when beating a boss was like : oh my God!!!! I know that with a save option, I wouldn't have feel that adrenaline rush because I would have take it easy.

--Onilink--1503d ago (Edited 1503d ago )

How exactly? No one is asking for a save system that you can just load back at any point, what is being asked for is a Save & Quit option, which deletes the save once you resume, like many other rogue lites already have.

Having that option has nothing to do with being able to progress through the game, if you die then you go back to the beginning, same as it is now.
But that is if you DIE, not if I had to stop playing and there was a power outage, or a game update, or a system update, or just because rest mode failed, or maybe I just want to jump into another game at any time.

I would just save & quit and when I come back I will have the exact same pressure of knowing that if I die, I will be sent back to the beginning, because the save is deleted upon resuming.

The fact that a developer has to ask you to disable all auto updates (for their game, for the PS5 and for any other game) while you are playing Returnal should really tell you how wrong this idea is.

Epicor1503d ago

There is a way to keep current intensity level while allowing gamers to pause their progress mid run and shut down their console in order to continue later: Create a save system that allows player to continue but not to load back to that state. Meaning that the system would delete the save file immediately after resuming the play. This way you would still need to do all in one run but at the same time you don't need to be stressed about "not having time to finish my run".

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wolf5811504d ago

Enough with the saving s.... Anyone that is a good at shooters like cod, destiny etc can with a little effort and little effort i mean when unstarstand how the upgrades works and weapons can beat the Game. After all after level 3 the Game soft save and you always begin from lvl 4.where y must defeat two boss.,the first is a joke.. And the second is Hard OK but then its over.. Stop crying and try.. Thats the beauty of It.. All have became soft with the easy open World games where y can save at every corner.. And be a collector.. Dont buy It or beat It end of story..

jukins1503d ago

Exactly. Its crazy how people who havent played are ao worried about saving. I was aware of the lack of saves and still went in only to find that between transporters replicators space men i havent desired a save at all.

sourOG1503d ago

Yeah, good points. Its a fancy looking shooter but it still has the old school arcade guts. I think that sums up returnal well in one sentence. It sums up house well, that’s just their style.

Bronbron921503d ago

I agree with the article I mean I see no problem with a non save feature it what the game is meant to be played as and I’ve said before it pushes you to explore and hopefully get better gear or take the risk of getting malfunctions that are buffs or debuffs but whenever you kill a boss your literally given a check point sure fight your way back isn’t that hard people just need to look back to when games were only restricted to lives systems 3 and done

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Housemarque Reveals It Has No Plans For Live Service Or Free-To-Play Title

Ilari Kuittinen and Gregory Louden of Returnal developer Housemarque have revealed during an interview with Eurogamer at the studio’s 30th anniversary event last week that it has no plans to develop live-service or free-to-play games, “as long as people are buying premium games.”

kpgs27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Why would they change? That's not where their expertise is.

Redgrave27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Didn't stop Sony after acquiring Bluepoint, taking them from renowned remaster and remake quality and sticking them on a GoW live service title that never even went anywhere.

I can't speak to what gives Housemarque the ability to be different, but let's be thankful that they are able to do so in wake of current Sony.

Cellblock1127d ago

Well whats different about Housemarque which Sony also owns that they can tell Sony what they will and wont do but the others couldn't?

derek27d ago

That GoW live service game was the dumbest idea ever. I thought they were remaking Bloodbourne or a Demons souls expansion (covering that broken arch stone). Sony was really panicked after that abk/Microsoft news hit. I hope it was a side project for Bluepoint and that there's another one in the pipeline. That GoW game apparently never got off the ground.

Eonjay27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Blaming Sony for pursuing Live Service when the top 5 games every month by spend and engagement are live service games is illogical. Gamers are telling Sony where to invest so there is a real disconnect between what is said online and what people actually play. Who should Sony listen to? Clearly the logical decision is to listen to people actually playing games and whether we like it or not Sony would be in vioulation of it duty to its investors if it didn't try to pursue LS. People taking out their fustrations on Live Service games by attacking Sony and using it as the industry whipping boy does not fix the industry. You are just telling the rest of the industry that they can keep doing what they are doing because they aren't called Sony. All I hear people say is that they hate live service but every single month the top games are live service. You are all either lying or you don't know what you are talking about. Sony should pursue both SP and live service games.

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Returnal's PS5 Pro upgrade delivers a huge resolution boost and improved performance

One of the best PS5 exclusives looks and plays better on PS5 Pro. Digital Foundry reports.

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jznrpg44d ago

I’ll have to start a new run sometime

Knushwood Butt44d ago

I'll have to get a Pro sometime!

VenomUK44d ago

If you’re sure you want one get it before the price rise.

Knushwood Butt44d ago

Yeah, thanks.

I'd like one but can't justify it right now.

jjb198144d ago

I just played it on the pro earlier and its so smooth and looks much sharper than the base PS5.

Ninver44d ago

This game looks incredible. The gameplay is engaging. Formula for a good time.

Aloymetal44d ago

Just counting the days till DS2 release, It's gonna look crazy good on the pro, can't wait.

anast44d ago

And it looks like Sam got over his haphephobia. It's going to be good.

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Returnal ‘PS5 Pro Enhanced’ patch now available

Housemarque: "Returnal PS5 Pro Enhanced Patch is Out Now! Featuring up to 2.5X the pixels on PS5 Pro for a higher resolution experience of Returnal."

Crazyglues49d ago

Wow this is amazing, I was just replaying this game on Ps5 and loving it again, and now a patch for the Pro... Amazing... Can't wait to check it out on the Pro now...

This game needs a part 2 so bad... One of my favorite Ps5 true nex gen games... Love HourseMarque for this...

IF you have not played this do yourself a favor and get it, it's a hell of a game, tough but super fun to play.
-Love this Game

garos8249d ago

it remains my favourite PS5 exlusive till date. severely underrated

RaiderNation49d ago (Edited 49d ago )

It's also still the only new first party IP released this generation on PS5. Everything else has either been sequels or remakes/remasters.

RaiderNation49d ago (Edited 49d ago )

To those who disagree, please let me know what other new IP Sony has released this generation besides Returnal. Go ahead, I'll wait. And Concord doesn't count because Sony recalled it.

RaiderNation49d ago

@Knushwood Butt

Lmao! You're seriously counting Concord? A game Sony pulled off the shelves and refunded gamers after what, two weeks? That is weak!

VersusDMC49d ago

@RaiderNation

For New IP Sony published Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade and Lost Soul Aside on the third party end.

Fairgames, Saros and Intergalactic are the next new IP for first Party.

But does anyone even care about new IP? People love Valve and Nintendo but Valve doesn't even make games anymore and Nintendo doesn't make New IP that often.

StormSnooper49d ago (Edited 49d ago )

It’s a great game.

@raider
But we have had more exclusives than the competition (do they even have any anymore?), and some of those are 2nd party exclusives such as Stellar Blade, Rise of Ronin, Final Fantasy Rebirth, Quantum Error, Neptunia ReVerse, Shines Over: The Damned, etc.

Then we have the first party exclusives such as: Astro Bot, Astro's Playroom (Free with PS5), Demon's Souls (yeah it’s remake but feels like a new game to me), Destruction AllStars (Free with PS Plus), Spider-Man 2, etc.

Then, there is VR games on PSVR2.

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VenomUK49d ago

I want to try out the patch, I want to complete the game - but I can't because I can't get past the first world. And before you jump to tell me to 'get good' I tried and I couldn't!

Knushwood Butt49d ago

Venom

Did you get as far as the first boss?

Storm2348d ago

@Venom Do you play on PS5? I would play co-op with you. Or a friend could play co-op with you. I have beaten the game a few times (been a while) and have played a lot of the Tower dlc. A friend could help you complete it.

Abear2148d ago

That underwater level…chef kiss video game magic mystery sauce type stuff

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1nsomniac49d ago

It’s a great game but why does this comment sound so much like it was AI written…. They’re among us!

Stwert49d ago

I have to agree with some of the comments regarding new IP in the PS5 generation, it has been woefully lacking to say the least. Even worse when you consider the excellent games we got in basically every other PlayStation generation.

On the bright side, Sony has finally noticed, publicly admitted and resolved to rectify the situation. Right now I can think of at least half a dozen new IP in development for PlayStation 5, the only downside is that none of them are near ready for release. So we’ve still got a fair wait.

But you know what they say, good things come to those who wait. I’ve a ridiculous backlog of games to keep me going for quite some time across four platforms. So I’ll wait (im)patiently.

Abear2148d ago (Edited 48d ago )

Stellar blade and Returnal plus GT7 is greater than any “exclusives” trio on any other console. Pro upgrades have been gravy as most of us normie gamers enjoy third party releases too.

I’ll say it again, GTA6 is coming and, like most other games (included those ported from other consoles), Pro will be the best version unless you sit at a desk on PC to play. Oh wait, PC version coming in 6 months to a year, don’t hold your breath.

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Eonjay49d ago

This is so crazy I just started playing again 2 days ago! Nice!

jznrpg49d ago

One of the best games this gen

Elda49d ago

I've got to try some Returnal again on my PS5 Pro, it's one of my favorite games this generation.

Luc2049d ago

That's great news! Because of the coop mode I was able to beat some bosses. Gonna play more after the update

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