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PlayStation patent would train an AI profile to take over your games if you need a break

A new PlayStation patent lays out a concept for an AI that could be trained to play games by watching your play style, then take over if you're having trouble or just need a break.

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Kaii1097d ago

"The patent details a system which would create a default play profile for each user, then customize that profile by observing how each user plays across multiple games."

This is awesome, I'd love to 1vs1 my own playstyle and change it up each time

Michiel19891097d ago

this is far away from realization. You could look at how Dota 2 worked together with I think the company was called OpenAI or at least the bots were called that, not sure about the company. They let the bots train in simulation for a ridiculous amount of time, i would like to say it was 2000 years or something, sped up ofcourse. They actually managed to beat the best pro players in mid 1v1 and even in 5v5 as well. It was actually amazing to see how spot on perfect the AI was with its mechanics.

It had flaws though, since they only allowed the bots to train with and against a limited hero pool and there were ways to cheese it since they had trained for years vs other self learning AI and not vs real players. Still very amazed how they managed to pull it of though. Interesting stuff to look at since this is by far the most advanced way it has been implemented in games so far.

let alone doing this across multiple games, thats just not gonna happen before we die ;)

GameSetMatch1096d ago

Bro, AI is being developed at such speed that we are going to see some serious advancements before we hit 2030.

itsmebryan1096d ago

This is something like the "drivavatar " that Fora has been using when you are not playing. But, I don't understand why you would want a game to play for you when you are there? I want to play my games not watch it play by itself. That's just watching TV.

stupidusername1096d ago

I imagine that this could be useful if you got disabilities and need help with certain parts.

SullysCigar1096d ago

Personally, I love JRPGs, but don't have time anymore to enjoy them thanks to the amount of grinding some entail. If this could give me the option of help, I'd probably take it sometimes.

I get the apprehension, but it's a bit like using a walk through or tips/cheats; to some it defeats the object of gaming, but to others they couldn't play otherwise.

Jin_Sakai1096d ago (Edited 1096d ago )

People acting like it’s going to play the entire game for you. The AI could take over if you need to take a bathroom break, have a disability, or help out if you’re having trouble beating a certain boss.

I definitely could see instances where it could be helpful.

itsmebryan1095d ago

But, I could play the whole game . I can understand it lower the difficulty to get past a hard part. But, playing for you while you're there I don't get it.

Rebel_Scum1097d ago

Terrible idea unless you can train it for grinding. It might make getting all the weapons in Nier Replicant bearable.

Rebel_Scum1096d ago

Please explain because a one worded response doesn't encourage discussion.

Duke191096d ago

A game that plays itself! Yeah this just seems like a silly idea to me. If people are viewing it only as a way to "get around" aspects of the game (be that difficulty or grinding, etc) - then I think the game itself should just be made more accessible. (or add a "skip" type button).

NotoriousWhiz1096d ago (Edited 1096d ago )

I think grinding is a great idea for AI. Would definitely make random encounters in JRPGs far more manageable.

Rebel_Scum1096d ago

Couldnt agree more. I was just merely thing of one application where it could make sense.

SullysCigar1096d ago

I immediately thought of grinding too. I just don't have time anymore and this means I could play games I'd otherwise have to skip.

glennhkboy1097d ago

Isn't this already exist in PC & mobile games? If game bot can play all by itself, what's the point of even playing?????

AirRevenant1097d ago

I don't know, I'd be on board if this thing could dodge lightning a hundred times in a row for me in final fantasy 10...

CrimsonWing691097d ago

I guess it’d be good for mindless grinding

Germaximus1096d ago

Exactly. I've tried games like this in the past. There's a Final Fantasy one that plays itself as well. They have cool visuals and interesting gameplay but the fact that they play themselves makes me just not even bother booting it up.

anast1096d ago

I think it would be more nuanced than that, but I see your point.

wwinterj1096d ago

It seems odd that some folk want games to play themselves.

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garos821097d ago

That is
fantastic of them to include a game "journalist" mode. Now the whiny babies can sit back and take their whole playthrough breaks and complain solely on the sexual preferences of totally made up characters

johndoe112111096d ago

Extremely underrated comment.

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Atari Is Reviving The 'Infogrames' Publishing Label

The armadillo returns.

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Aphrodia12h ago

I personally do remember Infogrames in the years prior to merger. They really did have a portfolio that stuck out and I enjoyed. I wonder what value they see in reviving it now though?

Hofstaderman10h ago

Ah...the nostalgia...V-Rally, Hogs of War 2, Driver.

TheColbertinator9h ago

The good old days of Driver and Stuntman. Unfortunately both games are long gone.

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Embracer Group Re-organizing Into 3 Separate Companies

Hopefully this gets Embracer group back on track

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TheColbertinator1d 10h ago

Embracer really destroyed itself faster than I ever expected.

Hedstrom19h ago

Yea! But thats what happens when you have 2,2 billion dollar in debt and the interest rise from 0,5% to 5% in a year

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With Larian Out Of The Picture, Will The Baldur's Gate IP Be In Safe Hands?

Huzaifah from eXputer: "With Larian Studios washing their hands of the IP, what is the ultimate fate of the legendary Baldur's Gate series?"

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RaidenBlack5d ago

If anybody's gonna mention BioWare, then look at Archetype Entertainment, they're the new BioWare
or else
Obsidian is still a good choice but not independent anymore.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

No, WoTC is pivoting to mobile. They can use Larian's work to justify DnD Go and everyone will accept it.

RiseNShine5d ago

Short answer, nope. Long answer, f*ck nope.

robtion5d ago

Correct answer. Most people don't realise that the companies that are still making good games using common sense and a customer focus are generally not American. They are from Poland, Belgium, Japan, or other countries that have not yet become completely corrupted by 'extreme capitalism'.

Before you down vote me into oblivion I am not anti-american. I just don't like greed and corruption which unfortunately seems to correlate with power.

I would guess the next Baldurs gate will probably be filled with GaaS.

RiseNShine3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

This is simply not true, probably the most capitalistic company in the world is Ubisoft right now, actually claiming that we have to get used to not owning games and asking 130$ for the ultimate edition of star wars outlaws with paywalled day one exclusive DLC, and they are from France, which is a socialist country with all kind of public services for everything, so it's not something exclusive to America or directly related to highly capitalist countries.

Of course, communist countries like China don't have problems like this, since workers don't have rights to strike since 1982 and unions are affiliated to the national government, so you'll never hear of any labour rights issues on these non-capitalist countries, they simply can't make their voices heard on their working conditions, neither by strikes or independent unions, that's better for you i suppose.

Christopher5d ago

Honestly, we're talking completely new engine and none of Larian's built-in stuff with regard to environments and the like that they had from their past divinity game. No one is going to have that just ready to go. So, they need to shop for a dev studio that has a past game that shows what they want.

Obsidian doesn't have that, maybe the closest being Dungeon Siege 3 or Pillars of Eternity, but those are very basic, not as open, very little environment related and altering capabilities. So, we're talking a step way back on what Larian delivered. Zero scene experience to line up with what was done in BG3. Okay conversation tree designs, but still needs more complexity.

inXile has Wasteland 3 as a base model engine, and I think that's better than Pillars of Eternity from Obsidian. But, still needs to be more open world, more environmental effects, and a much heavier rules set adaptation. But, not a bad overall engine as a base, but still a ton of work. Zero scene experience to line up with what was done in BG3. Needs a ton of work on that entirely.

Tactical Adventure did the Solasta game. Really good and more accurate as far as 5e rules than BG3. But, again, if the expectation is similar to what made BG3 a big hit, engine isn't designed for moving the camera, is a bit outdated in graphics, doesn't have in-game scene elements, and needs much better writers/voice actors.

Owlcat of pathfinder games is another choice, even though they've recently moved on to WH40k licensed games. Again, though, the engine is the biggest issue here to match up, but it's a much better option overall than Tactical Adventure. Another question is writers/story telling, as much of their overall story telling bits are very limited with a lot of random worldbuilding elements that are just +\- of some attributes.

TBH, no matter who takes over, it's just not going to be like BG3 much like how BG3 isn't at all like BG1/2. And BG3 was so successful because of how much Larian was able to put in with their engine and how focused they were on players having ridiculous control over the story being told. I just don't see the next BG being the same and depending on what it is, it might be good but I'm not as big of a reach as BG3. It's way more likely players are going to go into BG4 (or its spiritual successor if it moves away from Baldur's Gate and into Neverwinter or something like Plansescape) expecting much of what is in BG3 with more options, new and older characters, and the same level of control over what they're doing. If it doesn't have that, regardless of who makes it, it won't be as successful, IMHO.

exputers5d ago

Yes, I completely concur.

As good and talented as inXile and Obsidian are in their own specific way of making their particular games, none of them have Larian's attention to detail, dynamic worlds, and reactivity, so even if they end up making a new Baldur's Gate, it's going to be a significant step-down in terms of gameplay if not narrative.

CrimsonWing695d ago

Probably not, but maybe… just maybe…

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