The definitive list of the greatest RPG's of all time combining the best of the old with the best of the new.
Quality article. Wanted Secret of Mana to be #1, but good anyways.
Zelda is an adventure game you clown.
Secret of Mana is a top 10. Def not number 1 though. Story wasnt that good.
there were so many typos in that article.. anyways, i maintain that FFIII is the best rpg ever. i should give chrono trigger another chance though.
Why is chrono cross on that list its one of the worse rpg's I ever played, why did they put down daiblo 1 and BG 1 over part over those games part 2. That was waaaaaaaaay better then the 1st of both games. They gave FF games like 5 places on the list and left out great games like zelda, lunar, 7th saga and lufia
imo Xenogears should be in the top 5 (just my opinion). Amazing story coupled with a fun interactive combat system made that game a classic in my eyes.
yes yes we know the best rpg you ever played it halo.
Are you kidding me? Chrono Cross was amazing.
i can't believe i forgot about Lunar!!! SSSC is one of my favorite games of all time.
Lunar was great. Need to make a top 50 list
bubbles for mentioning 7th saga that game never gets the attention it deserved. Zeromage, I saw your responsible for that list...It needs work IMO. where's... Shadow Run (SNES/Genesis) Betrayal at Krondor PC Super Mario RPG Legend of Dragoon FF8 Star Ocean 3 till the end of time (yes that 1) The Wheel of Time PC FF7 at #12 /sigh only reason it could be at 12 is because someone was mad it gets so much love.
Agree with Baldurs Gate II being an improvement on I. In the screenshot they're playing the BGI story (they're standing just outside Candlekeep) in the BGII engine (probably though a mod like TuTu or BGTrilogy) Not the greatest article imho - no fallout and no planescape in a top-rpg's list just doesnt seem right (especially when neverwinter nights is on there).
they must of meant the real ff2, the one that was not originally released in North America. But kudos for rating FFVII correctly, even though I think Chrono Cross should be higher on the list (being a sequel to the best game of all time is hard).
Where is Two Worlds? :)
IDemonstalkerXI I love 7th saga still got my copy of that game too. Legend of Dragoon was another great on cant believe I forgot about that one. Panzer Dragoon Saga is another great rpg that should of been on that list My person list in no real order probably be 1 Xenogears 2 Chrono Trigger 3 Final Fantasy 7 4 Baldur’s Gate 2 5 Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 6 Illusion of Gaia 7 Lunar SSSC 8 Legend of Dragoon 9 Panzer Dragoon Saga 10 7th Saga 11 Daiblo 2 12 Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 13 Lufia 2 14 Parasite Eve 15 Final Fantasy Tactics 16 Skies of Arcadia (couldnt leave that one out)
That was a good list. I really enjoyed Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Diablo. And I had totally forgotten about Illusion of Gaia! It's been so long since I've even thought about that game! Good list!
And why isn't Xenogears in the top 5?!!? >_<
no zelda games?
They're action/adventure games, not RPGs.
SEcret of Mana should have been #1. it's sequel should have been on here also
FF3 has got to be number 1
You're probably talking about what is in reality FFVI...
FF6 lol If FF7 isnt number 1 the list is wrong (edit) just checked the list is wrong
FF3, FF6. Whatever the hell it is. Probably the greatest game of all time
If FF3 isnt #1. the list sucks
Hixon, your an idiot. Go away
Why people keep calling FFVI, 3? Anyway, they included Illusion of Gaia and that surprise me but Terranigma was better... Well I don't know, both were too awesome! Decent list but, there are better Jrpg's like Dragon Warrior, Shining Force III, Suikoden II, Bahamut Lagoon, . And what about Dragon Force? FFVII is not even that good, that game just had a lot of luck like Zelda OOT that made the transition from 2.5D to 3-D when everybody was tired of the low res sprites from the Snes and FFI used ideas from the first Zelda(nes) and for that I don't consider it one of the best ever. Chrono Cross is too confusing and boring... But the other are good choices. Xenogears = the best of the best Chrono Trigger = the best of the best Illusion of Gaia and Terranigma = the best of the best FFVI and FFIV = the best of the best Secret of Mana = the best of the best -Soul Blazer = not that good The rest well, I don't play those kind of rpg w.
Secret of Mana is amazing, I wish they'd make a decent sequel.
Xenogears should have been much much higher
Still needs time to be ranked with the best of the old RPGs.
the gameplay was too easy and a bit mundane after awhile, still I played through all 80 or so hours and enjoyed it because of the story alone.
Xenogears is top 3
Tough article to make. Certainly put an emphasis on the Squaresoft SNES RPG's
Nice picture shot of Lavos in his final form!
Chrono Trigger #1. hmmmm....I thought Chrono Cross was better.
No 6 is wrong. Cecil and Kain are in FF IV not 2!!!! FFII is Firion Maria Guy and Leon! No 2 is wrong too. Terra is in FF VI FFIII had Classes not characters. "Warriors of Light" like in FFI
Good call Senshi. You know your FF's down cold.
actually that was FF2 in the USA. So I guess he doesn't know his FF down cold.
Also Terra IS in FF3 USA again.
To be specific in North America it was released a 2 and 3, the game lost some content to censorship and poor translation when localized. Example removed Removal of Judeo-Christian religious imagery. But guess what? The world is not US its know as FF IV and FF VI. Also in US its known as FF IV and VI. Edit: Meh Swede answered while I was typing..oh well Worldwide its FF IV and FF VI. END. @ Below. How did I get crushed? I said why they may had posted it like that but they are still wrong. In Europe and in Japan its know as IV and VI also the PSX Remakes are marked as IV and VI and world wide its IV and VI
Ouf. Senshi. You got crushed
Zelda OTT, bullsh!T list
Not a true RPG
Great game. Not a RPG though
This list is off the mark. It includes Neverwinter Nights but not the far superior Torment and they even go further to list Diablo, which is not a rpg.
diablo is an action rpg...so i'd say ur wrong.
where is it
Wow no JRPG for the 360 on that list. How could they? :)
i would of loved to see shinning force from the sega genesis days. also i cant believe baulders gate one is in the list and not the 2nd one it was way better then the first. woulda also of loved to see one of the fallouts in it like 1 or 2. but it does have some good games. so i guess i cant complain to much.
Shining Force is always underated. Good call
no surprise that no sega games are on the list.
I would have put KOTOR a little higher, and found a place for Mass Effect on the list...but otherwise, all very good choices. Hard to argue with any of them being quality RPGs.
Agreed. Mass Effect def deserves a spot
But... Mass Effect > KOTOR The original Dragon Warrior for the NES should have made the list, too.
1.Xenogears 2.Suikoden II 3.FFVIII
You're an idiot
No PC Fallouts and no Torment means terrible list.
Yeah Fallout 2 should have been on that list for sure. Never played Torment though.
Aww.... they dont have Saga Frontier 2 on the list... loved that RPG.. i agree with most of it cept that i feel FF7 should have been a bit higher :p
When they say Final Fantasy 3, do they mean 6 in Japan, or do they mean the western SNES Final Fantasy 3? Anyway, Diablo 2 should've made the list, not Diablo. I feel like this list is the top 15 most influential RPG's, or something. There are plenty of better RPG's than many of the games on this list.
better than chrono trigger???
Did I say that there are games better than ALL the games on the list? No. I said many, not all.
but im glad ff3 and secret of mana made it high on the list! even though zelda is an adventure game it still deserves to be on that list! especially Zelda one should have been on the list somewhere!
zelda isnt an RPG!!!
haha. No one seems to understand that
zelda II is!
I said even though it is an adventure game I still think zelda one deserves to be on the list because many who played zelda one got into playing rpgs later on. 20 years ago ppl refered to zelda one as a role playing game...I know today things changed.