Sony may not seem interested in backward compatibility in recent years, but PlayStation consoles were once the gold standard for the feature.
I personally like it when a newer platform is able to play previous games from the same platform holder. I did it with Genesis playing Master System and even 7800 playing 2600. And in many cases the older games get a nice little bit of improvements by the virtue of newer hardware. Playing Wii on a WiiU yields improved clarity just like playing Gamecube on a Wii unlocks progressive mode without having to get those uber pricey component cables. when it comes to Sony, Im pretty sure they got plans for all of their previously digitized content. They just aren't ready to reveal it to us yet.
I don't like backward compatibility for 2 reasons 1 the console is more expensive due to this 2 I prefer the console to deliver only next gen experiences.. It's so rare I go back to play previous gen games..
bouzebbal Would love to play ps3 games on ps5
Playing RR7 at locked 60fps in upscaled 4k on a PS5 would be awesome seeing as there was no newer RR for the 8th generation.
How does a console deliver next-gen experiences? Does it use power from the future cloud?
okay 1. wait for price drop and 2. no console has ever delivered "only next gen" experiences.
It's called PS NOW and remasters
Personally I generally buy remasters if they are done as compilations. Like R&C collection on PS3 was HD remaster compilation of the PS2 games. I can still play my original PS2 games on the PS3 but the collection was a better deal overall.
BC is a good to have feature to have at the start of a generation as it allows to play your current catalog while new next gens are coming. Now, should BC be your main feature on your system while lacking on new IPs and big new games? No, and that's why Playstation has maintained its leader position in the market by releasing hits after hits and not relying heavily on an old game catalog. As long as there is a flow of new exiting games coming, I don't have to focus on playing old games.
What big new PS5 exclusives have you been playing?
There is nothing.
The only other competitor in said console strength has gone over ten years making any solid or new AAA game.. That is a decade.. And you are concerned with the first months of the ps5 for the Microsoft paid for reverse compatibility “issue” since not only Microsoft went over a decade with said games, but they STILL have nothing coming anytime soon. This is a stupid argument being that everyone in the industry has dealt with these issues.
@Rude-ro There's the deflection and excuses. I'm not talking about microsoft right now. I didn't even bring them up. I want to know what NEW exciting PS5 exclusives they have been playing recently that have been flowing out. That is all. I want to see if I missed something so I can boot up my PS5 and play it.
The glorified tech demo that is Astro, and the PS3 remake? Ooh, yeah, Bugsnax exists .. - actual PS5 owner.
@TheRealTedCruz haha true. Even Bugsnax is on PS4 & PC though. Destruction AllStars is exclusive, but I played it for about 10 mins and got bored. Deleted it to make room for more PS4 games. I can't believe they were going to charge $70 for that!
LOL. Y'all funny. You would be hyping to death that "glorified tech demo" if it was on your preferred console. Let alone being given away for free. Let's not even get into the "PS3 remake" salt. You look silly trying to downplay the PS5 lineup as nothing when your preference is offering less than nothing. Maybe they should have launched with a remake of a 360 Halo title, since that's what they're desperate to replicate anyway.
Man some of you don’t seem to like anything. Why even buy a console someone else would be much happier with?
@raul Good try, my man; but I haven't cared enough to own an Xbox since the 360, though I did buy a PS4 Pro and PS5. Shows you for what you are - a fanboy. You assume someone who would even dare to criticize Sony must hate them and love Xbox. I'm just mature enough to view things fairly. No bias had. Xbox dropped the ball last gen when it came to 1st party releases and bringing value to the brand. Since then they've acquired many great developers, own the most popular games subscription service, and have done a great job at supporting BC on their platform. Yet the fanboys of this site try to spin everything. Despite MS highly investing in 1st party projects, having many games in the works, you claim they have nothing to show. All the while the PS5, itself, also had a pathetic launch lineup, and you only brag about what's coming. MS supports BC well, for generations now, and it's nothing but "lol they only have old games" comments, despite it being a highly pro consumer move. Gamepass becomes highly popular, is highly pro consumer, and it's nothing but "it devalues the product", and other idiotic takes meant to delegitimize what's being had with the service. So much immaturity to be had. Go like what you like, but grow up and accept there can be criticism aimed at your precious plastic box at times.
5 PS gen and you people never learn. Sony and exclusive hits is their thing. Its only a few months in this gen sparky
@Cruz Good try, my man. I said I said you prefer it, not that you own it. See, unlike some people on this site, I absolutely believe some of you are hypocritical enough to fanboy for one console while crapping on the one that you aren't about to stand by your rhetoric to miss out on. That doesn't impress me. That just makes you look like a hypocrite and, particularly in the case of the PS5, an uninformed consumer. You're crapping on the launch lineup of a product you claim to own as if the lineup comes as some surprise you weren't aware of before you bought the thing.
@Rude-ro Both Gears 4 and 5 were great, just as good as anything Sony put out. Forza and Forza Horizon have been killing it, and Halo 5 (while strayed a bit) was Still not a bad game by any means. All of these were great. Sea of Thieves is a new IP, and while it had a rough start, it turned into something great and has a huge healthy player base. Recore also saw a rough release. But the more polished Definitive Edition has seen a lot of praise as well. Just because the media slept on this fact does not mean they are bad games. There are a number of reasons behind the scenes that fueled some of the mistakes MS made last gen, but the people who made them are no longer working at XBox. Phil has had an up hill fight, and we are just now starting to see the fruits of his labor. MS is all in now, and their actions show it. Instead of trying to downplay, how about be happy for competition doing well in the industry. PS would not be what it is today without being pushed by the 360, and XBox would not be making these changes without the PS4.
Geez, the depths that you fanboys will go to whiteknighting for your favorite piece of plastic is absolutely hilarious. Sorry that the truth hurts you guys! Don't take it personal. haha You can't even tell me what NEW PS5 games you are playing without badmouthing the competition any chance you get. Here's the answer, you aren't playing them because they don't exist right now.
@ justthefax I’m not sure what your counter-point to his statement is. What’s the point of asking what new PS5 exclusives he’s playing if he said BC is good for the beginning of the generation to play older games while current gen games are coming, which is exactly where we are at being only six months into the generation; playing PS4 games (like Ghost of Tsushima and TLoU2 which came out less than a year ago) while we wait for more PS5 games (Spider-Man MM, Godfall, and Demons Souls are current PS5 games). Sony could have been scumbags and abandoned the PS4 and made their games PS5 launch games, but they didn’t. Now if we’re were longer into the generation or if they hadn’t been constantly releasing exclusives each year last gen, you might have a point.
@r2oB Well then read it and reread it again until it sinks in. I can't help with your reading comprehension. Spiderman MM is a PS4 game, Demons Souls is a PS3 game. Godfall as well as Destruction Allstars are the only 2 exclusives out and are pretty much widely accepted as awful, so enjoy I guess? I have no desire to try Godfall, and Destruction Allstars got deleted after playing through that awful tutorial. I noticed you didn't bring it up, so I bet you feel the same way. My point is they said there is a flow of new "exiting" games coming, so they doesn't have to focus on old games. Well, I want to know what new GOOD games are out now that I can play on my PS5, that I can't play anywhere else. I already played through the PS4 games Sackboy, and Spiderman MM. Started Days Gone and Persona 5 but they aren't clicking yet. I just want a reason to turn on the damn thing besides Fall Guys and Rocket League. I may pick up Ghosts next time it is on sale, and have no desire to play TLOU2, but again those are last gen games.
@ justthefax So let me get this straight; he mentions something about exciting PS5 exclusives COMING, and your response is regarding PS5 exclusives out now that you can play? So you don’t understand the difference between coming (as in coming down the line) and something already here (as in out now)? And you want to talk about comprehension, go figure. Seems either you failed to comprehend his statement, or you were able to comprehend it but decided to mention something irrelevant (he never mentioned exciting games out now, so why ask about that?).
I'm pretty lucky in that I have the means to buy and play a lot of games. My time is more limited, but I still try to get in as much play time as possible. Sounds like you've got both the means and time to play every game in existence at release. What's your secret?
His secret is being young.
I see people hating on your comment for ps5 games and what not, but time will tell. PS4 had Last of Us, God of War, Spiderman, Horizon Zero Dawn, and so many more amazing games. They kill it with their exclusives and Microsoft exclusives have been poop.
So many articles on Sony and Nintendo BC, its like let's be negative to Sony again. Its like deja vu talking about BC again that we talked about years ago and years after that etc... Anyways going by ps4 games playing on ps5, I can speculate they both will play on ps6. We all know why ps3 games isnt on it these 2 systems.
If only all these articles existed when the launch PS3 had full backwards compatibility back to the PSX.
Ps3 games can easily be played on the ps5, I can play them on PC with lower specs... PS2 and PS1 games should also run fine I guess... To be honest there is no reason but greed to not include BC. I liked Sony more when they weren't outselling Xbox by a huge margin. They cared for the customers more.
I mean it's never a must, but always a nice to have. Would it be the end of the world if it didn't play the previous software? No. I usually hold on to my hardware anyways, so it isn't a deterrent or determining factor in my equation. I love that I can still play my PS4 titles though that I have accumulated through the years on my PS5. It's awesome that I don't have to keep older hardware still hooked up.
It's sad this even has to be an article, but I'm glad it is because it seems like people forgot.
So PS2 played PS1 games, and the PS3 played PS2 games for a couple of years, until they made the excuse it was "too expensive" and then just resold fans older titles via the storefront and in remasters. Just started doing it for PS4 games, if only in the face of MS supporting it the last three generations. What a legacy Sony has made in the BC space. :^)
Actually, still have and use a PS1/PS2 PS3. Have another one I need to get fixed.
@godmars And anyone willing to pay insane prices for the original PS3 can do the same. As long as they have the physical discs, being the store is, well, you know.
"And anyone willing to pay insane prices for the original PS3 can do the same. As long as they have the physical discs, being the store is, well, you know." Well, you know, you can still redownload your digital purchases after the store is, well, you know.
"until they made the excuse it was 'too expensive' and then just resold fans older titles via the storefront and in remasters." I've left scathing comments criticizing Sony's current lack of commitment to BC but that's just revisionist history, lad. They were so committed to backwards compatibility back then that they included the PS2 GPU on an already expensive console and it was marking up the price. The 360's biggest advantage was that its models were $200 cheaper than the PS3 ($499 and $599 versus $299 and $399) and they had to make a tough choice, also removing other parts of the console like the SD card slots on the front to try get a model down to $400. It's very dishonest to ignore the full historical context. They had a completely different approach and attitude to their old catalogue than they do now. They didn't sit in a smoke-filled room and say "Get rid of the PS2 GPU so we can sell remasters." - as I said, they were trying to reduce the price of the PS3 to make it affordable. It was a different time. Most of the PS2 remasters also didn't come out until late into the generation in the 2010s ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... The only one they released with any urgency was the God Of War Collection a few months before GOW3. "What a legacy Sony has made in the BC space." I'm not downplaying MS's work, btw, but by that logic, what legacy has MS made in the BC space? Sony went all in and included hardware on both the PS2 and PS3 to achieve full backwards combability, and truly did care about it. Only a portion of MS's first 2 gens are BC whereas 99% for the first 2 gens were fully backwards compatible for the PS3 at launch because they included the necessary hardware, and now both the PS4 and XB1 are BC (3 gens at best each). You can criticize their current attitude, but they used to be perfect on this front.
It is important that messages like this reach Sony's ears. I want to play my PS1/PS2 backlog and am willing to pay for it.
Shouldn't have complained about it, insisted how unnecessary it was, when they were actually doing it with the PS3 then.
If I seem to recall... more complained about its removal than not how unnecessary it was. Same with other os removal. Sony was taking features away on PS3 while MS was adding them to 360. Go figure.
That's objectively not what happened. I'm so tired of people coming up with insane excuses when I know we'd all love PS1-PS3 compatibility. C'mon guys. The 360 had a $200 price advantage on the PS3 ($499 and $599 versus $299 and $399) and the PS2 GPU was marking up the price. Sony had to make a tough choice, also removing other parts of the console like the SD card slots on the front to try get a model down to $400. Pretending that they got rid of BC because fans asked them to isn't just revisionist history, it's stupid and you're making a fool of yourself when I know you're smarter than that. If we put pressure on Sony and push them in the right direction, they will implement BC, and the PS5 will be a better console for it just like the inclusion of PS4 BC. Let's be mature about this.
@darthv72: Sadly, it was both: MS was getting praised for dropping their BC efforts on the 360 while then turning right around to get their crowd to dis it, while Sony had to worry about PS3 costs and being outsold. All the while failing to utilize the PS3's strengths like the BR player even if cut off at the knees thanks to the HD format war. That whole gen was nothing but cock-blocking mess. @LucasRuinedChildhood: No, they didn't get rid of BC because fans asked, they got rid of it because MS had managed to turn the market against them and any number of licensing issues caused by allowing consumers easy access to older games - which which GameStop reaped the benefits of. And again, the 7th console gen was an utter f**king mess. No what but a few could afford to do anything with HD. No one but a very few knew what to do with HD. While the PS2 introduced consoles as multimedia platforms Sony lacked idea how to take it further, needed to take it online, where MS knew it needed to be taken online but wanted to get paid as every aspect - an "objective opinion" proven by the original XB1 launch policies. Wait. We were talking about BC weren't we? Where the hell did I go to...? Anyway, no, the 360 never had a "price advantage". Just smoke and mirrors to buy a "cheap" console that needed an expensive HDD and a monthly sub. And yeah, thought pro-BC, I probably am contributing to the BC "myth". Sorry about that.
So buy a PS2?
@Truthspeaker900: Embarrassing in the regard that MS/Xbox doesn't have access to the PS2 library which literally represents too many memorable titles to mention? And what even is a "N4G Sony virgin"?
@Truthspeaker900 Pathetic? He wants to play PS1 and PS2 games. A PS2 can do both. How many original Xbox games can be played on newer systems? You know, the ones from the PS2 era. 38. That covers a grand total of 1 Xbox game I own. So what if I want to go back and play any of the others? I'd have to have an original Xbox, just like my pathetic solution I mentioned earlier. My my, how embarrassing. At least the PS2 can play thousands of games that spans two generations. The Xbox has FAR fewer games (about a 10th as many). It's not like they're especially hard to find (over 2000 on ebay alone) for about $100-150. It amazes me that people will hold on to games for the last couple of decades, but the suggestion that they also keep the console they were made for makes people freak out, speak latin backwards and act like I showed them a unicorn with three nipples on their head.
Lol this is laughable nobody buys a new console to play old games.
So I shouldn't buy a PS5 to play Demon Souls?
Ummm... people buy all kinds of things to use what they have in addition to new. Be it movies, music and games. So I guess Demon Souls on PS5 throws your argument out the window. New console, old game... regardless if it's a remaster, it is still an old game.
Um, the latest Xbox....?
The ps3 cost the company so much to include the actual ps2 system in it. They went the emulation route and discovered financially it just wasn't viable to provide a function that not many were using despite claims to the contrary. So they decided to include the old games in a subscription based format which makes sense financially. But it seems even that wasn't proving lucrative. Ps5 will definitely not provide all generations of old games if at all. Even Xbox carefully selected games they felt would at least generate revenue. It cost alot of money to store old and new games on a server not to mention maintenance and upgrades. I doubt Microsoft will make more old games available due to the focus on new games. No one should really be surprised by this. bc has been a burden on these companies that they never wanted or liked. They tried to please the people screaming about their old games but they are seeing that not many are playing them so it's a waste of server space. I get where they are coming from and gamers as well. It seems to me that the only viable option is to keep your physical copies and old systems if you really want those games so badly. A company just can't afford to be your storage warehouse for games you like but don't play.
It wasn't emulated. It was an actual PS2 just like you said.
As he said, it had the PS2 hardware, but part of it was removed and went to emulation with the slim.
^dum, the slim didn't have emulated PS2 support. Only PS1. The 80gb fat was the only model with software emulated PS2 support. 20gb and 60gb used hardware, while 80gb used software. Every other model of fat, slim and super slim only offered PS1 by support.
Damn, i applaud you guys. Am i the only one here who isn't playing old games anymore. I can understand Ps4 and PS3 even..but PS2 and PS1? I'd rather pay for and play a remake of a good old game. Shadow of Collossus is one good example.
No. It's the latest thing to make noise about to create a false sense of parity.
Legend of dragoon is worth a play through now and then.
Lol the same old trick used to pretend the xbox has something worth talking about but in reality doesn't have anything worth talking about for a couple years.
Willing to bet Sony is going to add psp, vita, ps1 and PS2 titles to ps now and many people will complain.
This subject is getting really old. Guess ya shouldnt have sold off that PS3 and PS2, huh? I still have all my gaming consoles: Atari 2600, Magnavox Odyssey 2, NES, Game Boy, Sega Master System, Game Gear, Game Boy Color, Sega Genesis, SNES, Sega CD, Sega 32X, Sega Nomad, Game Boy Advance, Sega Saturn, PlayStation, N64, Sega Dreamcast, PlayStation 2, Nintendo DS, Nintendo Gamecube, Xbox, Xbox Mod for Japanese and backup games, Xbox 360, Xbox 360 Slim, Xbox 360 Slimmer, PS3 1st Gen, PS3 Slim, PS3 Slimmest, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo 3DS, Nintendo Wii U, PS4, PS4 Slim, PS4 Pro, Xbox One 1st Gen, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch Lite, and PS5. I keep all of my gaming consoles and never have to worry about Backward Compatibility. So, stop trading off your consoles. Plus, curating your consoles and games helps them live on but, when I buy new hardware, I want new experiences that push the hardware. Let me say this also, finally. Sony offered the gaming world backward Compatibility, they did it and everyone stuck their nose up at it and complained it was too expensive and it was only $100 more than the PS2 when it launched and was the least expensive bluray player on the market. I have a first gen PS3 because I wasnt blind one-sided by Xbox 360 so really, all I need is my PS5 and my PS3 and I can play everything. But, its yalls fault, ya scared Sony away when they offered it to you and I feel no pity for you, at all. Its yalls own fault. Guess thay $500 price tag isnt looking so bad right now huh?
I still have all mine as well. The main point is convenience. I'd bet many can pull out their original system and play (I know I do) but it's not nearly as convenient as it would be to just load up a disc or even a digital version you own and play on newer hardware that you probably already have at the ready. When MS started offering bc on the XBO, it was a hell of a lot easier to put a 360 disc in and have it install to the Xbox than hooking up my 360 to play. Killing two (or more) birds with one stone. Who doesn't like that?
No amount of BC has given me access to a game I have been trying to buy the last decade. Silent Bomber is a game I’m just going to have to risk a virus over.
the gold standard was and is and will be a PC ...
I still have my first gen PS3 because it plays all the ps2 and psone games.
Sony dont make their 30% cut by supporting old formats that not many buy games for... they obviously are cutting back things that make them little money, or cost them money to support...
People didnt use it, thats why it got sacked!
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