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The possibility of XBOX Game Pass on PlayStation 5 - Dash Gamer Podcast

Dan Rizzo & Brendan White discuss the Bethesda/XBOX Buyout and the consequences that may be felt throughout the entire industry, and how XBOX may potentially hold the key to open that forbidden portal. Could we in fact see XBOX Game Pass on PlayStation 5?

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XiNatsuDragnel1550d ago

If true then console war will be over in my opinion.

PrimeVinister1550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

It has debatably been in a tense cease-fire for a couple of years but you are right, it would be the end of it as we know it.

Sonic-and-Crash1550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

if Gamepass appears on PS then its the end of PStation ..i dont think it will ever happen...Also what s the difference with PS Plus ?? really ? in my eyes PS Plus offers the exact same things and even let you have the games to your PLus library forever

xHeavYx1550d ago

@Sonic
The end of Playstation? Are you out of your mind? Playstation has been outselling Xbox from the beginning, being able to play Xbox titles on Playstation would mean that even less people would be buying an Xbox.
Also, no, GamePass and PS+ are nothing alike. I do wish GamePass was available on Playstation, but it would mean the end for the Xbox console.

crazyCoconuts1550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

Cease fire? So you think when Sony and MS have their board meetings they're not talking about strategies that pull customers from the other side? I mean... they're competitors. Just because we see a few games that are cross platform doesn't mean they're not in an intense war for our $$$

Mr_Writer851549d ago

@sonic

Plus and Game Pass are not comparable at all

Plus:
Cheaper
Required to play online
Monthly games (usually old, unless it's an indie game)

GP
Lots more game
More expensive
Doesn't include online (unless you get ultimate)
Has all MS first party titles on it, and they launch on day one.

Not comparable in the slightest. The nearest you get to game pass on PlayStation is PSNow.

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neutralgamer19921550d ago

If that happens the install base for xbox would diminish even more. If and that's a huge if that ever happens ms would become a content software company. The biggest reasonif you never happen because Xbox live generates too much money for Microsoft for them to give up on Xbox brand

Who in the right mind would buy Xbox if they could play on Xbox games PlayStation along with all the PlayStation games

enkiduxiv1550d ago

I don't know why people are downvoting this. You are absolutely correct. The 7.5 billion dollar acquisition was all about giving XBOX some highly desirable exclusives so they could better compete with PlayStation and Nintendo. Putting Game Pass on PlayStation would basically just be handing this exclusivity back over to Sony.

I understand they would still make money from the subscription, but at that point they would simply be operating like a big publisher, like Activision, EA or Ubisoft.

DJStotty1550d ago

That will never ever happen, again Sony will never allow a competing platform on their platform, ever.

GamerRN1550d ago

I highly doubt it will happen. It'll hurt Xbox from a hardware perspective

DJStotty1550d ago

Not only that, Sony would not allow competition for PSNOW on their platform, Microsoft would make more money via gamepass subs on Sony's platform, the xbox hardware perspective would stay the same, they do not sell enough hardware to warrant a significant financial impact.

GamerRN1550d ago

LoL they don't sell enough hardware? What are you talking about lol

GamerRN1550d ago

@DJStotty

By that logic, Sony wouldn't feel any financial impact as they likely don't make anything on the failed PSNow network

darthv721550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

DJ, they could make a mutual agreement. PS gets GP, XB gets PSNow. Both offer streaming as an option on devices that dont support native downloads.

MS and Sony already have a deal inked on the use of Azure and it wouldnt be much to add in cross platform streaming.

Livingthedream1550d ago

Only hurts them if they put their xbox exclusives on the service

DJStotty1550d ago

@GamerRN

For a "significant" financial impact, how much do they make on each console at the moment?

If anything, they are probably making a loss on the consoles sold.

"By that logic, Sony wouldn't feel any financial impact as they likely don't make anything on the failed PSNow network"

That makes no sense.

So you think Gamepass being on Playstation, will result in less consoles sold for xbox, and no gamepass subscribers on Playstation? What?

DJStotty1550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

@Darthv72

"they could make a mutual agreement. PS gets GP, XB gets PSNow."

Would it not be easier to to make a console where Sony does the hardware, Microsoft do the software then? (I don't mean Sony stop 1st party, more so all xbox games on PS).

That would result in no competition between the 2 platform holders, would then likely merge, and then the gaming industry would stagnate with no competition.

It will never happen, if it does i'll eat my monitor on a livestream

@Livingthedream

"Only hurts them if they put their xbox exclusives on the service"

How can making more software sales, and increasing subscription numbers, hurt them? If anything, they will make more money.

GamerRN1548d ago

You guys DO realize the real money from hardware comes from the licensing fees that other companies pay for each game sold. So the loss in hardware sales gets offset by fees paid for having a solid user base and charging fees.

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Rude-ro1550d ago

Never say never...
It is just that gamepass is stupid.
It is fully targeted to the bot so thoughtful American “hip” crowd that does not understand money and or value.

It would hurt Sony none...
But it would then shine a light on how poorly Microsoft is as a gaming company.
They have nothing exciting, they just sell the idea that it is.
We are now at the point where we close our eyes and cross our fingers Tehran it comes to a Microsoft release..
My point? How in the world is a gaming company that has not made a new AAA game in over ten years offering a gaming service?

And so far.. 99% of the “new” releases are your straight to dvd movie that are not testing well.

Why would. Sony want and or need this?

DJStotty1550d ago

Good story, full of fiction, but nonetheless a great and entertaining read.

AngelicIceDiamond1550d ago

Wanda vision is a good show it seems you're in a infinite loop, broken record stuck in 2011. Saying the same things over and over and over again.

Radio static* hello... Hello rude are you there? One day you'll get with the times.

Buy entertaining fan fiction as always though.

Rude-ro1550d ago

Full of typos...🤦
But very real nonetheless
If you do not think Microsoft is starting at the profit possibilities of said service vs the years of collected data from connected consoles... then I do not know what you think is “real”.
I built a pc. I have Xbox live. I looked at the offerings.... and would not find value in most games offered.
You are a paying a fee to access games...
But the dlc? Micro transaction? Live service games like destiny?
It all adds up.
Then we have seen the output from Microsoft.
Charging full AAA prices on indie style games to make them seem like a better value on gamepass is not a value to be had.

More times then none, I see diehard Xbox fans celebrate bad games as a sales pitch for gamepass. They are still bad games. So I do not get why a monthly fee is needed.
Just drop demos and be consumer friendly.

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AngelicIceDiamond1550d ago

"Charging full AAA prices on indie style games to make them seem like a better value on gamepass is not a value to be had."

You mentioned Destiny and all it's expansions. Well that game and it's expansion are all on Gamepass. Outriders isn't an indie game and it's hitting day and date. The latest Bethesda games aren't Indies Monster Hunter EA's games etc and amongst countless others aren't indie on the service.

Here's a tip education yourself on what's goin on before you say anything.

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AngelicIceDiamond1550d ago

Not only that but if Sony really wanted to compete in that space they could Revamp PSNOW. This podcast doesn't make any sense knowing Sony has their own service they could push and utilize.

crazyCoconuts1550d ago

Right. Not like they'd even have to do much of a revamp. Just put newer games out there and up the price. There's a reason they're not doing that...

crazyCoconuts1550d ago

Agreed. Sony would have to be in a position where it's completely backed into a corner and lost it's market lead before it would resort to allowing competitors to suck revenue opportunity away from them. It would be Sony reverting from being a platform to just a gaming hardware provider which is FAR from where they are now. So, kinda cold day in hell scenario...

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Elda1550d ago

Highly doubt that'll happen.

Futureshark1550d ago

Gamepass on PlayStation = no more Xbox.

Why would anyone buy one, if you can play all the same games on the rival hardware, plus all the PS exclusives?

LucasRuinedChildhood1550d ago

If it is possible, GamePass on PS5 would probably just include the Bethesda stuff from MS (no Halo, Gears, etc). That's MS's bargaining chip. Sony would get Fallout, Doom, Elders Scrolls, etc and MS would get at least 10m+ GamePass subscribers.

It's probably not going to happen though.

crazyCoconuts1550d ago

so many interesting problems to tackle w/ that approach, like is the service "sticky" enough to have customers continue to subscribe when you only have a small # of games that are truly exclusive to Xbox, or would they snipe and just subscribe when they want to play a certain game. If they're sniping, wouldn't it be better to just make the games available on PS and take your 30% cut of the game because 30% of $60 is $18 which is more than one month of GamePass... I'm sure the marketing departments have been through every scenario imaginable here multiple times. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in those meetings...

DJStotty1550d ago

And then if there is no xbox, why would Sony make a Playstation 6? Why would they need to?

Futureshark1550d ago

Perhaps to keep innovating the technology and pushing the boundaries of what can be done in videogaming, you know, like they have always done.

RazzerRedux1550d ago

None of this Game Pass on PS makes a lick of sense. Does anyone really think Microsoft is going to be willing to share their GP revenue with Sony? Nope. Are they going to hand out even more money to game devs for including the PS version of their games on this PlayStation Game Pass? That stream of revenue keeps getting shallower and shallower.

This will never happen. The most anyone can hope for as far as GP on other platforms is perhaps a xCloud streaming app on Switch. And probably not even that.

DJStotty1550d ago

And Sony will not open their doors for people to log in to xbox live, more chance of a Wii U revival.

RazzerRedux1550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

No more or less chance than Microsoft opening their doors for people to login to PSN for whatever reason. Either way, it is irrelevant since that is a secondary consideration for either side to see a benefit from this partnership at all. Besides, all you need is to link your Microsoft account to PSN and Sony has shown they are willing to allow that.

RauLeCreuset1550d ago

"Does anyone really think Microsoft is going to be willing to share their GP revenue with Sony?"

That is the hang up. I'm sure they'd be okay sharing some depending on how much is coming in. It's all conditional and contingent on a lot of variables. Bottom line: They'll probably be world's apart on what they want to share and the cut PS would want if they were willing to consider allowing it on PS. I think a lot of it hinges on Xbox making GP too big to pass on, possibly using Bethesda type acquisitions to force a deal more favorable to them. I doubt it happens, but I suspect that's the plan.

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PlayStation Execs Are "Thoughtful" About Bringing First-Party Franchises To Other Platforms

PlayStation executive Herman Hulst says that the company is "thoughtful" about bringing first-party franchises to other platforms.

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RaidenBlack1d 1h ago

I bet it might start with Helldivers II

PrinceOfAnger23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Maybe if they release old Sony games on more platforms they could earn more $$.
To make new games.

They will lose nothing. maybe some screams from few angry fanboys. and that's it.

__y2jb13h ago

It’s not about what you lose by releasing game X on another platform. It’s about losing brand value over the long term when people realise your games are no longer exclusive. It would be madness to devalue the brand in this way imo.

fr0sty11h ago

They don't really need Xbox, there isn't a big enough install base there to really make it worth it to port the games to a platform with fewer than 50 million consoles sold... especially when many of those folks have a PS5 also. That said, Switch 2 is selling like hotcakes, and Sony would be smart to consider ports to it. Honestly, I think that would be a smarter move on their part than trying to release another handheld.

Enate11h ago

That's not what he was referring to when he was asked the question. He was was talking about them being throughtful on when and if they put their games on other platforms. Speaking to their current strategy of brining titles to PC. It was not about bringing titles to Xbox.

Scissorman11h ago

thank you for actually reading 😂

crazyCoconuts4h ago

Right. People are missing the point.

TheEroica10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Sony is a 3rd party publisher... Just like Microsoft. Has been for a while now.

Congrats to all gamers who get to play games without being walled from silly exclusive deals... Only corporate bootlickers want to keep games from their fellow gamers.

MoU5h ago

Yet you have all of those people that pay various monthly subscriptions to Netflix, Disney+, HBO, Amazon Prime etc. so they can have access to the exclusive movies and TV shows each platform has. So yes, exclusives do matter.
Exclusives are what made the PS the household name it is, and one day we'll say "it was", 'cause the executives will have removed the main, if not only, incentive to buy a PS console.

1Victor3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

@mou/obscured: “ Yet you have all of those people that pay various monthly subscriptions to Netflix, Disney+, HBO, Amazon Prime etc. so they can have access to the exclusive movies and TV shows each platform has. So yes, exclusives do matter.
Exclusives are what made the PS the household name it is, and one day we'll say "it was", 'cause the executives will have removed the main, if not only, incentive to buy a PS console”
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Pick a lane on this account you’re so confused between defending Sony exclusivity and game. Pass subscription 🤦🏿
Edit you should call this account full view observer🤣 trying to flip the script 🤦🏿

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Zerobalance23h ago

I'm trying to think? The only PS game I might try is Days Gone...maybe?

Rimeskeem18h ago

Questioning if you are attempting to think is the first sign of dementia.

GhostScholar18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

I’m the biggest Xbox fan but that’s just not believable what you said. I love days gone but you are telling me you have no interest in Spider-Man? Uncharted? God of war ? Horizon? Ghost of sushima? Come on man

Gunstar7523h ago

They have no choice. Their market share is shrinking and they are in it for the money

ravens5222h ago

They just had record breaking financials. They said people this gen are spending the most. Chill, theyre fine xbot.

Lightning7722h ago(Edited 22h ago)

No it's not wtf? So we're just gonna run around and make stuff up now?

Deathdeliverer19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

@ Gunstar75

lol are you serious right now? If Sony has shrinking market share whos eating it? Definitely isn’t Microsoft when the series X/s are selling worse than the Xbox one. The switch is WIDELY known as a companion console. It’s what you get WITH your Xbox or PS or even PC. Some games simply sell best on PC, but that’s a minority. As someone that plays on everything, please explain who Sony ids losing market share to? If anything they want to recoup from these live service blunders.

StoneTitan11h ago

Dayum the biggest and growing. Guess someone is eating crow for the rest of the year @Gunstar75

gold_drake12h ago

as .. everyone is ?

they have plenty of choices.

IRetrouk8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

They literally just announced its the most profitable gen ever for them, profits are higher than their last 4 console gens added together......profits, not revenue......
As for market share, I'll let you use Google for that one.....

caxow1h ago

Sales of PS5 are 7% ahead of PS4 at the same number of months.

And the PlayStation brand is doing better than ever due to the massive numbers of users still buying games, subscriptions and content on PS4.

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Fishy Fingers22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

A few years or maybe a generation from now, everything will be at best, a timed exclusive (other than Nintendo and some PC titles).

GhostScholar18h ago

Agree and even the bluest ponies know that

crazyCoconuts4h ago

All these years and folks still don't understand the fundamental business model of the PlayStation platform

ravens5222h ago

If PS puts 1st party games on any other platform guess what ima do!?!?! Nothing lol. I dnt really care.

ThinkThink15h ago

Same for xbox. More people playing games is a win/win.

ravens526h ago

Ye. Im fine with it. I just hope they actually sell on other platforms if that ends up being the case. I want to get Gears but idk if the game is on disc or not. I welcome Microsoft games, but PLEASE PLEASE put the game ON THE DISC. If not its a no purchase for me.

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Inside the ‘Dragon Age’ Debacle That Gutted EA’s BioWare Studio

The latest game in BioWare’s fantasy role-playing series went through ten years of development turmoil

In early November, on the eve of the crucial holiday shopping season, staffers at the video-game studio BioWare were feeling optimistic. After an excruciating development cycle, they had finally released their latest game, Dragon Age: The Veilguard, and the early reception was largely positive. The role-playing game was topping sales charts on Steam, and solid, if not spectacular, reviews were rolling in.

HyperMoused1d 23h ago

Its easy they called the die hard fans people in their nerd caves who will buy anything and then went woke to reach modern audiences....insulting the nerds in their caves along the way showing utter contempt for their fan base. very hapy it failed and any company who insults their fan base and treat their customers with contempt and insults, in future, i also hope fail.

neutralgamer19921d 19h ago

It’s disappointing but not surprising to see what's happening with Dragon Age: The Veilguard and the broader situation at BioWare. The layoffs are tragic — no one wants to see talented developers lose their jobs. But when studios repeatedly create games that alienate their own fanbase, outcomes like this become unfortunately predictable.

There’s a pattern we’re seeing far too often: beloved franchises are revived, only to be reshaped into something almost unrecognizable. Changes are made that no one asked for, often at the expense of what originally made these games special. Then, when long-time fans express concern or lose interest, they’re told, “This game might not be for you.” But when those same fans heed that advice and don’t buy the game, suddenly they're labeled as toxic, sexist, bigoted, or worse.

Let’s be clear: the overwhelming majority of gamers have no issue with diversity, LGBTQ+ representation, or strong female leads. In fact, some of the most iconic characters in gaming — like Aloy, Ellie, or FemShep — are proof that inclusivity and excellent storytelling can and do go hand in hand. The issue arises when diversity feels performative, forced, or disconnected from the narrative — when characters or themes are inserted not to serve the story, but to satisfy a corporate DEI checklist. Audiences can tell the difference.

When studios chase approval from a vocal minority that often doesn’t even buy games — while simultaneously dismissing loyal fans who actually do — they risk not just the success of individual titles, but the health of their entire studio. Telling your core customers “don’t buy it if you don’t like it” is not a viable business strategy. Because guess what? Many of us won’t. And when the game fails commercially, blaming those very fans for not supporting it is both unfair and self-defeating.

Gamers aren’t asking for less diversity or less progress. We’re asking for better writing, thoughtful character development, and a respect for the franchises we’ve supported for decades. When you give people great games that speak to them — whether they’re old fans or new players — they will show up. But if you keep making games for people who don’t play them, don’t be surprised when those who do stop showing up

Armaggedon1d 13h ago

I thought the writing and character development were fine. Sometimes things just dont resonate with people.

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Report: Just Cause 5 Was in Development at Sumo Digital, But Got Cancelled

Recent evidence we discovered indicates that the next game in the Just Cause series may have been canceled, potentially two years ago.

RaidenBlack3d ago

NOooooooooooooooooooooo....... ..............

mkis0072d ago

Well if it went back to being more like 3 I would have liked it. 4 was crap.