Microsoft has released FPS Boost for Xbox Series consoles but it has a limitation for the rendering resolution thus dropping it down to 1080p in some games.
And damage control/deflect starts. This was already stated in the announcement/news by xbox.com :- "In some instances, because there are higher graphics requirements to enable FPS Boost technology, we’ve had to reduce a game’s resolution to ensure it both runs smoothly and plays great. In those select cases, such as Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 in this latest title announcement, FPS Boost is not automatically enabled for Xbox Series X gamers. For all titles receiving this update, gamers will see a clear indicator if a title is running FPS Boost." We already knew this, how is this news?
Honestly, I choose performance mode over quality so if these games run at 1080p is fine with me. I do that now with my one x and pro. Just got the Series S last night and I have it set to 1080p even on my 4k tv.
I still have a 1080p TV lol, so i'm good with this also. 4K TV's that are capable of 4K @ 120fps are so few and far between, and still hovering around the £1000 mark here in the UK.
So mark as a dupe, pop a chill pill and move on lol
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To be honest you're the first person here and the only one talking about damage control. No one cares and is fine with 1080p if it means higher framerates, as more people are finally starting to realize that higher fps is better than a higher resolution since people have finally been given the option (something plenty of us have been saying for the longest). The only people who are going to complain are trolls and people who care to begin with. These are old games getting FREE updates, there's nothing to complain or damage control about.
"that higher fps is better than a higher resolution " Exactly it's a much better experience overall. I posted about this a few mins ago here 😁
This article is a pure downplay of the boost mode and information we already knew. You are right, no one cares, i mean i do as a FPS boost to games is good, but if people are fine with lower resolutions, why the article title :- "Microsoft has released FPS Boost for Xbox Series consoles but it has a limitation for the rendering resolution thus dropping it down to 1080p in some games." Why the need for this article at all? To simply get some clickbait going, and fanboys measuring again. A positive xbox article, always spurs a downplay article shortly after, just celebrate good news for gamers, rather than downplay.
And we already know everything of gamepass yet we need to see 20 articles a week on it. Not a pick and choose world of information... Info is info.
Quite sure each article about gamepass is either games added/removed, otherwise would they not all get flagged as duplicate stories and not get approved?
I didn’t know it it’s interesting info but again more options are better and Skyrim 4k60 so nice!
I'm struggling to understand that when we have a mod you can download that runs fallout 4 on Series X already at 60 and it seems there is no resolution decrease (the mod states 720 but DF advised that's not the case)
We? Who's we? Not everyone knew this
I'm sure once Direct ML launches they're boost the resolution back up.
Quote : "This article is a pure downplay of the boost mode and information we already knew." So, this article just quotes the MS words. So, MS downplayed himself. Or every media is Sony biased
Hey its an option. Having two options is better than one.
Higher resolution / lower framerates Lower resolution / higher framerates not rocket science here people. Now you have the option, which is what we like about the next gen consoles in the first place. Prey maintains its 1440p resolution, Skyrim stays at 4K. The other 3 titles are 1080p to achieve the 60fps. The option remains to keep the games at 30fps and enjoy higher resolution as well.
Pretty dissapointed this gen will have to be a compromise between frames or resolution. 1440p and 60fps would be ideal tbh.
In two -three years there will be a pro console version.
Skyrim is the only one that really matters anyways 4K/60 too!
it's a game that runs on the PS3 and a potato of a PC to begin with. so...no surprise there
@badz149 it is an older game, but you are talking about the regular edition not the special edition that was enhanced for xbox one and ps4. They added alot of visual bells and whistles.
Obviously the increased options here are great. I’ll take what I can get. But 1080p for Dishonored (a title from 2012) is really disappointing for me. The Series X is perfectly capable of running that game at 4k 60. Or at the very least, 1440p.
what did the One X run this game at when the enhanced version came out?
@Neonridr The original enhanced edition was released in 2015 and ran at (I believe) 1080p 30FPS. AFAIK it was never updated for the One X. Even the original enhanced edition was an underwhelming upgrade from the 2012 console version.
I was told the series x would be able to run all games at 4k60 and the series s would run all games at 1440p120, what gives?
Xbox overpromising and being misleading like usual.
I know... I mean look at Sony! They aren't even offering ANY upgrades
Sony didn't said anything special about BC. They just offered it like "here you go".
None? Are you sure? Because I know of a few they upgraded, not to the extent that ms are for sure, but none is a lie.
Do you really need a link to remind you about all the capabilities people were saying 12TF was going to do vs "9.2"?
Yep. Got one that matches OP's troll attempt, or should we just agree he's exagerating for the sake of fanboyism?
Yeah it was an exaggeration, but prior to launch that was gist of what people were saying. Remember the UE demo? People were saying it would run at higher res and 60 on SX and laughed that it ran 1440 on the PS5. This proceeded to be the case for a number of games revealed to be either sub 4K or 60 on the PS5 until launch.
That sounds like some petty console war fanboyism. So why do the same thing now? Especially in response to what is a pretty cool piece of tech here? And wasn't that UE demo almost a year ago? That's a long time to be upset.
In the very Xbox site "The team knew they needed to build a next generation console that could run games in 4K at 60 fps with no compromises for developers. https://news.xbox.com/en-us... So, much about 12TF. Jeez, won't even mention crap from Twitter.
Got it. Cool. So like how Skyrim was boosted to 4k/60? Not seeing "all" games mentioned, digger. Seems like more over exaggeration, intentional misrepresenteation, and general console war ignorance to me. All for the sake of sticking it to other fanboys...
A year ago? People be bringing up resolution gate from the beginning of last gen(2013). Don't ever see you calling them out 🤷 Petty fanboyism... Even so called "neutral" gamers were making claims because they were so sure the ps4's worth of TF advantage would yield significant power gap.
Calling who out? Someone from 2013? I've called out many fanboys over the years. You'll have to be more specific. But I admit I can't be everywhere at once, so some may have snuck by me. Still don't understand the point to trolling people from the past. My dog shit on the rug last year, but I'm not going to go home and yell at her today for it.
Quote : "Not seeing "all" games mentioned, digger. Seems like more over exaggeration, intentional misrepresenteation, and general console war ignorance to me. All for the sake of sticking it to other fanboys... " They didn't mentioned "all" but they surely implied to all. But also, with no compromises. LOL They already there in games, even at lower resolution. Then you have some dumb Xbox fan who claimed that XSX with Ray Tracing is on the same level as 3080 RTX https://twitter.com/astaran... He can't be that dumb. LOL
Digger Seriously, man. Please tell me you didn't bookmark an Xbox fanboy's tweet from 6 months ago. This has just underscored everything I've been saying.
Stop deflecting. The fact of the matter is these games are getting 60fps boost while the other side isn’t. I suggest stop listening to fanboys. We all know every game isn’t going to run at 1440p/60fps.
I knew deflection would come shortly after my original post lol. Most of the reason why i said damage control/deflect starts, it is here already in big salty spades.
At least quite a few games run 4k 60 and ms won't tell Devs what they have to do. Where as Sony have complete control over its packaging and put a great big gold 8k on the front of the box even though the ps5 can't output in 8k at all
Didn't ms put 8k on their chip?
Are we now comparing chips to retail packaging? How many people see the chip vs the retail packaging...
Pretty sure both PS5 and XSX can output 8K, maybe not for games but for other media, 100%. Xbox has 8K on the APU, 8K HDR on the box and 4K 120 FPS on the Box.
@nirwanda what are you on about?? the PS5 can definitely output 8K. that HDMI2.1 is not just for show. 8K60fps is supported and given the right input, the PS5 can display it just fine. they didn't specify it for games. 8K movies count too
@orchard They advertised it didn't they? Posted pictures of it?, showed it off in teardowns? Sent one to digital foundry? Phill had it as his avatar on twitter didn't he? Regardless it was shown off🤷♂️ My point, which seems to have gone over your head, is that they both put an 8k stamp on their shit, its not important, like it, dont🤷♂️
Well considering this is a free optional feature that's probably more complicated than patching the games directly, I think people are fine with it. Only PlayStation cultists will have serious complaints about it... Probably to make themselves feel better that they may not be getting such a feature.
Nice deflection but the fact remains that upgrading these games to run at 60fps without touching the game code / any work being done by the developer is a huge, impressive feat! I can only wish we got the same treatment from Sony.
Exactly, quite sure they could even improve the resolution with a little tinkering.
Don't think anyone stated that as fact, is this just another lie? They announced target resolution and what the consoles are capable of, just like Sony did with their PS5.
no console will. If you want that with all the bells and whistles, switch to PC.
UP to 4k/120, there is a difference.
To give credit to xbox these are old games and not new games therefore as a free update if a game has to drop to 1080p (still looks great today) to reach 60fps then I don't see an issue. But I can imagine many xbox fans already thinking of what reply to type out in case someone brings it up
1080p doesn't look great, unless your tv is 1080p. Didn't buy a next gen console to play at 1080p on my 4k screen.
These are old games, so no one was buying a next-gen console in the hopes that old games would all be 4K. Also the majority of next-gen games will start migrating down to 1440p as games become more demanding if they want to maintain high fps modes, so Native 4K isn't a reality for most AAA games in the next couple of years anyway. Finally if 1080p doesn't look good on your 4K TV then you have a cheap TV. 4KTV's have upscalers built into them to help 1080p content display better. There's only a slight blur which is even harder to notice in games since most of them use motion blur, lods, and shaders to blur areas where the focus of the player isn't needed.
A game in 1080p still looks good. If your playing a pre gen game for example it's no big issue unless someone needs to visit spec savers.
@ABizzel1 "These are old games, so no one was buying a next-gen console in the hopes that old games would all be 4K." WHAT THE...? did you just ignore the whole MS marketing campaign for the Series X??
My series S just came in and wow is it small. I already started installing some games to it from GP. Ori, dirt 5 and the medium. All my others that I had on my SAD were on an external so that just plugged right in. I dont know if FPS boost supported games need to be on the SSD or if they can be on external. I know that 'series optimized' are supposed to be on the ssd but these games arent technically optimized so Im just not sure what the real answer is.
I think you wil enjoy the series s, i have games installed on my external and the FPS boost works just fine, i think i have a couple of older series optimized games on my external too and they work fine (Sea of Thieves being one of them) I think its just games designed to use the velocity architecture that need internal SSD .
Personally, would rather have 60FPS vs 30FPS regardless of resolution.
Seems like you don't have a choice
Lol, you can turn the option on or off. What do you mean?
Agreed, resolution is a none issue unless it's to an extreme and things start looking muddy. We've gone an entire-gen where [email protected] was the targeted standard (often 900p sometimes 720p), so [email protected] is still fine. I don't want to see these consoles dropping to Sub-HD (Series S -_-), but consistent 60 FPS is much more important to me than resolution.
Not really not all games need to be 60 frames. Last gen many werent even locked 30 frames. Studios know that graphics sell games frames dont.
The GPUs in these consoles are RTX 2070 - RTX 2080 level in rasterization, and the CPUs are on par with laptop Ryzeon 4000 series (slightly weaker than Desktop R7 3000). There's no excuse for any game to not have good graphics and still offer 60fps.
were going to have to start calling them xflops instead of teraflops