French site JV247 is reporting that during an interview the site was told Sony almost added backwards compatibility to a recent PS3 firmware update, but changed their mind at the last minute.
Bringing back PS2 emulation to the PS3 is bound to happen, the question here is, when. My opinion about this whole thing here is, they should of done that before the launch of the PS3. the system could of cost 400 dollars back then if they did that, and we could of seen a price cut right now had they did that before. Its a good lesson to learn for sony. Its a good lesson actually, cause now have to learn about software. Hopefully this will never happen again when we get to the PS4.
Supposedly, there are already a few ps2 games that work with the latest PS3's - with no PS2 backwards compatibility - and each of these "non-eventful" firmware updates for PS3 has been secretly adding more PS2 games to the list. I would love some official comfirmation of this
Keep in mind that while removing the EE and GS hardware from the PS3 did help Sony to cut costs, I still don't see how they could have launched at $400. The Blu-Ray laser diode issue @ launch was enough to keep that from happening (~$100 for the Blu-Ray diode at launch, compared to ~$20 currently), along with the die shrink (helped to increase yield on the Cell and drop the power and cooling requirements, which contributed to manufacturing cost drops.) Also, emulation is not the silver bullet you seem to think it is. I had a launch 60GB unit, and it worked FLAWLESSLY with every PS2 game I had. After seeing a few glitches (shadows looked funky, controller issues, etc), I took it back to GameStop and swapped it out for an 80GB Motorstorm bundle PS3 (no EE chip, but still has the GS chip). The 80GB unit only played a handful of PS2 games flawlessly. Some of them (like Tekken Tag Tournament) were so choppy to the point of being un-playable. If Sony does put out a 100% software emulator (emulating both the EE and GS chips), the emulators will probably have to be customized for the game being emulated to yield the best results. Personally, I would love to start seeing PS2 games on the PSN store. If the games were properly priced, I think they would sell very well.
true, you do have a point there, and if you think about it, the console could of still cost $600 either way, especially since they lost about $200 for every system sold. they would at least be losing about $120 for every system sold then if you subtract the cost of the EE and the GS.
I agree with the most of what your saying, but Sony could never set the price at 400 on the launch week, thats just f!cking crasy. But Sony could have set the price on the 60gb for 599, and the 20gb for 499. The reason why Sony confirmed at E3 2006 that the 60gb would be 799 and for the 20gb it would be 699. Was because the economy was much better at that time right before the summer of 2006, but when we came to christmas of 2006, that was the economy fell allot then, and until today its really bad. Mostly the reason why they removed the ps2 system was because in the US people complained so much about the price. And afterall its where the PS has sold the most. But when they launched 60gb and the 20gb in EU the sales took more off, there people dident complain that much, the economy was bad there to. Probably next year they will add a ps2 emulator deffantly not before next year. But we need ps2 games on the PS store. You can probably say this all BS what I'm saying but its a fact.
Well with the advent of PS2 Singstar disc swapping coming befor the end of DEC, I think it's easy to assume that they are patching PS2 BC for most PS2 games.
Why would someone dissagree with you and leave no respons?. I also think backwards compatability is important that's why I love my 60 gig ps3 with a 120 gig hdd
yups same here bought mine at Launch....even though...my PS2 is right beside my PS3....and I still find myself actually playing my PS2 occasionally...
60 gig all the way. Helps me play Persona 4 without pulling out the PS2. I spit on the new model PS3s!
/spit! now back to persona 3 FES.
Sony really MUST put ps2 and more ps1 games on the PSN store. Seriously both the 360 and Wii are re-selling last gen games. Sony has the most and best(ps2/ps1) games and they are not even taking advantage of it.
...PSOne games for use on the PSP. There are so many quality PSone games that would look and play fantastic on the PSP.
Its been an irritant for me since day one. So much potential for the real quality PS1 games to be up for download. I wonder what the hold up is? May not be as easy to pick and choose what to put on there without going through some crazy loops first.
The thing is sony cant take advantage of it because a good portion of ps3s sold cant play ps2 games! And for those unfortunate to live in PAL land their ps3s cant play ps2 games well.... Software BC is the solution but sony dont seem to want to deliver this feature anytime soon.
Sometimes, Sony acts so stupid that it hurts your mind... Bring back the focking backwards compatibility with PS2, Sony - NOW!
What would be nice is either 100% software emulation for the 40GB and new 80GB PS3 owners (PS2 games via. PSN), or offer a model with 100% hardware backwards compatibility when the PS3 Slim's come out. Personally, I'm leaning more towards a slim with EE/GS in hardware... Hardware BC trumps Software BC anyday.
I think once the PS2 moves out of production they will bring back Backwards compatibility. Only because it potentially stunts the growth of ps2 sales. Once it's gone I'm sure we are going to see PS2 titles up on the story. Right now, there is no reason to for them. We are talking economically here, not ethics.
Now who wants to predict when Sony Retires the PS2? We are headed into 2009. I have a feeling that next year will be the year. If sony Cuts the Price of the PS3 by $100, Im pretty sure PS2 owners who have yet to make the switch to next gen, and the people who were thinking about buying a PS2, will immediately buy a PS3 very Quick. All it takes is a $100 price cut to make it happen.
LOL... Well, 2010 would make for 10 years of the PS2 on the market... I would say the PS2 will start winding down over this coming year and be retired sometime in 2010. And you're absolutely right on the price drop. If Sony can manage to sell one SKU at $299.99, they would see a large in-flux of new customers just like they did when they released the 40GB @ $399.99. Personally, I hope the PS3 Slim is around the corner... I love my PS3, but it is BEASTLY huge... ;-)
The PS2 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Sony is launching a fab in South America and launching the PS2 officially there and in India. There's still years of PS2 production ahead. I also don't believe it would halt PS2 sales. The first year of the PS3 the PS3 had BC and sold like crap. People buy the PS3 because of PS3 games, not PS2 games. PS2 BC is a bonus for those who have PS2 games and want to keep playing them, specially upscaled, not a selling point for the PS3.
Yeah, it'll happen eventually. The PS2 is the best selling console of all time - FACT. And there are a ton of great games for it. The question is whether those great games would make it onto the store, or whether we'd be left with a pitiful handful of titles that don't quite make the grade.
you sony and you last minute changes lol. i always knew they would bring it back. it was just a matter of time. its good to know that somewhere in sony land they still care for BC.
PS2 owners will buy the PS3 when the PS4 comes out. They're very cost conservative and like the niche crowd.
WTF! Sony must realize that these people without BC really want to play Vice City. TGSI
I can still remember that joke of a score it was given by ign or 1up (Can't remember who)
i have a 60 gig and honestly, i dont use my ps2 games no more, im more into next gen gaming now even dou i do have my ps3 collection such as god of war 1 and 2 kingdom hearts series and so forth i bet you anything if sony was to release marvel vs capcom 2 on the psn the ps3 will sell millions in a few days
If they recompile the PS2 code to make it run on the PS3 - it is not the same as BC. BC runs unmodified code on the PS3. They will most probably do the PS2 titles on PSN - without the ability to run from CD. Low cost to adapt to PS3, many re-releases on PSN for PS2 titles - and another sale. Would commercially be the best call.
Recompiling the game to run on a PS3 would be a pain in the ass. Nothing is remotely similar between the Playstation 2 and Playstation 3 besides the name. It would be much easier to go with software BC through firmware updates. Even if the BC is only 70-80% it is 70-80% more than what those without BC have now. As for PS1 games... well ALL PS3s can play them. Just stick the CD in and have at it.
This is a good one and I would really like a valid response. What differentiates the software BC units from the non-BC units? Granted they have something in their firmware(?) that allows BC but other than that is there ANYTHING else? The reason I ask is if so that would imply that there is 2 concurrent versions of firmware for the PS3. One for the non-BC and hardware BC models and one for software BC models. AM I correct in this assumption or is software based BC done somewhere else?
This will happen at some point. There's too much money to be lost in not selling PS2 games on the store.
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