On the day of its acquisition by Microsoft, Bethesda has posted an emotional 'Here's to the Journey' retrospective video.
The propaganda begins.
im the only one that never found Behtesda games appealing ? i think they have very bad direction (artistically and lore) nearly all their games , but they get a release .because they have infinite sources of money . ..not even one of them can be considered system-seller, killer-app, critical hit or whatever else (except maybe the Morrowind )......is no wonder that the whole company sell itself so easily to MS (imo MS just wasted money to dominate market rather than have succesfull exclusive games in their belt)
I mean they make a wide variety of stuff, but I suppose if you only like competitive games then that might happen. But I disagree, Skyrim would be a system seller.
You're not the only one, they're an over rated company that consistently pump out some of the most broken games ever made. I don't get why they get a free pass, when the modding community have to fix your games that's not a good sign.
I'm pretty sure that the only Bethesda games I've bought in the last decade were all Fallout games. And I'm done with Fallout after getting so bored with Fallout 4 that I never bothered to finish it.
You might not be the only one, but I wish you were. Bethesda games like Skyrim and Fallout has TONS of high quality lore. And games they have published like the Doom and Wolfenstein titles are not broken at all. Exceptionally well made shooters. I think people have different tastes, and obviously not everyone likes every game, but they are not overrated and have made some of the best Western Rpg's ever. They have many Classic that live on with large communities to this day.
Lol you think Elder Scrolls wouldn't be a system seller? 😂😂 Shit the hype for Starfield is at the same level as cyberpunk rn
Doom is the only Bethesda game I've ever played. Doom is incredible.
Bethesda definitely makes games that can be considered system-sellers. Heck, the only reason I bought an xbox360 was because Fallout 3 was a timed exclusive. I wouldn't hesitate to buy their new xbox if Elder Scrolls, Fallout or even Starfield become exclusive. I mean, its not like I can find a PS5 to buy anyway, lol. I'd be happy owning both if I can play the games I want to play.
At the end of the day, just make high quality games. That's all that will matter to consumers. Loyalty is fickle if you turn out poor quality. Just look at CDPR...
If Elder Scrolls and Fallout games aren't system sellers then there isn't a single game in existance that is.
Releasing sizzle reels on YouTube is propaganda? I guess every game company on the planet are propagandists then.
Microsoft should let id software take over the Halo franchise, and 343 should work on a new IP.
I think we should wait until Halo Infinite comes out before we say that. Because its gearing up to be pretty great for Halo and a new way to experience Halo games.
Eh, id Software isn't a good fit for Halo. People want classic Halo back and that isn't the kind of shooters id make. I do think that id Tech would be a good engine for a lot of Xbox's games though, including Halo.
I kinda thought that this would happen or at least Id would have a good look at it. It might be pushed back further if that's the case though.
That could have been the reason it was delayed, collaboration across these studios is going to amount to some great games.
I don't think they'd do better than 343. And they definitely don't have the manpower. People underestimate what it takes to make a Halo game. However a spinoff game by ID using ID Tech Engine would be very interesting.
Id should focus on more Dooms. So many more Dooms.
It is time for Quake (crosses fingers)
That would be great to have ID collaborate on Halo, big long time fan of ID Software. #wewantanewquake
Did they show a glimpse of Starfield? With no sign of Bloodlines 2 and Dying Light 2 in 2021, I hope Bethesda at least releases Starfield in 2021.
Starfield ain't happening. Hope you got some fallback games planned.
What other first person RPGs coming this year? Other than System Shock Remake?
Pretty cool video of their history.
LOL. I would hardly call AC/DC in the background an emotional post though!
Look it up the guy who started bathesda was kicked to the curb and his friend who he hired BTW stole the company from underneath him
And the moral of the story is......
Don't cheat with anyone because now the guy who stole it passed away so what good did that achieve? Hopefully under ms bathesda can be a better company for gamers and it's employees
Good for Msft honestly. No one can argue the fact that Sony is cheap as sh*t when it comes to investments. Look at every single acquisition they’ve ever made outside of Funimation. Even Gaikai was a steal which explains why the the previous founder of Gaikai was astonished at how incompetent Sony was when they first got the service - it’s as if the better of a deal they get the less care and attention they put into their service(s). Here’s hoping everything works out the way Msft & Zenimax plans it will.
So you would rather Sony blow 10's of billions on failed acquisitions like Microsoft does?
No but i think they should recognize their weaknesses (WRPG/JRPG) and actually invest heavily in them so that gamers can benefit. The backing and support that Sony gives to their studios is of an upper echalon, and to continue to witness it being wasted on the same third person action adventure genre is becoming tiresome. Plus I do feel like they want a steal of a deal on everything, and that mindset is preventing them from making such an acquisition, which then leads to my point that they aren’t investing in a needed area.
Ah gotcha, Sony is crap and msft is the best. Noted.
I'm not sure how you got that from any of the above comments.
You shoot yourself in the foot there because you are saying that Sony, according to you, is cheap at investment.... But yet Sony has been kicking Microsoft all these generations dominating the market and being the #1 home console. Microsoft on the other hand has spend billions and they are still the underdog always at last place.
Exactly. Where is the return of investment? By the time rachet and clank releases and probably already, insomniac has paid for itself many times over. Xbox just takes out loans they can't pay back from their daddy Microsoft and one day Microsoft is going to tell them to get a job.
I just hope they stay away from GaaS games, but both MS and Bethesda want those. They want to charge micro-transactions. I really hope they don't concentrate on those.... but I have a feeling that that's the route they want to go.
I have never bought a single Microsoft or Bethesda microtransaction and completed a lot of their games. Both recently and in the past. Not a single MS or Bethesda has microtransactions that are required to play their games. It is entirely up to gamers whether you want to pay or not.
My biggest concern is with their approach of the games themselves. Forced micro-transactions are not my point. The games lack of content and support. There generally is always missing content that they promise that sometimes never even makes it into the game. Eventually, they get forgotten but if you spend money, it doesn't matter. You cannot get refunded most of the time. Imagine spending money then they tell you we're abandoning ship. Anthem is a prime example of that. Also, Fallout 76 and Sea of Thieves, are 2 examples from both MS and Bethesda where the games were released bare bones.
@Transporter47 Every gaming company has are is making mistakes. EA, Activision-Blizzard, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Bethesda, Take Two, Ubisoft, etc. It is how they learn from them that is important. I have played Sea of Thieves and Fallout 76. I haven't paid microtransactions in either and enjoyed both games. Were they GOTY? Definitely not. But they are both OK games if you decide not to pay for microtransactions. What is Destruction All-Stars if not micro-transactioned? Fornite, CoD, Apex Legends, Star Wars Battlefront II, etc. This is not just an MS/Bethesda thing. This is an industry issue.
Only if they would learn from their mistakes.... I am not as optimistic as you. All their focus is on how much money they can make off you. They should deserve our money by at least giving us lots of content and not bombarded with Micro-transactions. And, some of those Micro-trasanctions should be outright illegal. I don't mind cosmetic Micro-transactions, but the ones where you essentially gamble for an item/character or whatever with a 1.002%. It's just more ways to milk our money. Or, am I the only one who wants this?
Microtransactions should not be in any paid game, only free to play to support developers. As for paid games, please return to paid expansions.
@Transporter47 All the companies learn from their mistakes when it costs them. If gamers are stupid enough to support micro transactions then that is their stupidity. Personally, if a game appears to force me into micro transactions I don't play it. @DJStotty I agree with your statements on MANDATORY micro transactions. But, just like anything that is sold, their are NON-MANDATORY upselling micro transactions, and as long as they don't help you get trophies/achievements in games, then I am fine with offering them. I can choose whether they have value to me. My answer is NEVER. The day I am forced into a micro transaction for a bought game is the day I quit playing it. And have on several games I bought. None of which were from the console vendors though.
Can you give examples other than Sea of Thieves and 76? Like them or not, the market seems to like a lot of GaaS games. It'd be foolish to ignore that. I understand hating on them is the popular thing to do online, but you have to know money talks a lot more. And they're nothing new. ESO is an example of the old way we got Gaas games: MMOs w/ premium tiers. It's one of the most popular MMOs out there (and a high quality one). So there is no way MS isn't looking at the billions being made on Fortnite and War zone when thinking about Halo's new F2P mode. And that's probably what Halo needs. A F2P gaas version to launch w/ the full game is smart. I see more of that coming from a lot of studios. I think Forza and GT will have similar systems. Part full package, part gaas. I suspect more Fighting games will do it too. Fallout could work if it's not just rushed together again like 76. So on one hand, yes, we'll be seeing more Gaas games from MS, Bethesda, and many, many others. They'd be stupid not to. On the other hand, we've seen how it's only a small part of their overall output.
So does that mean every Bethesda game will be pulled from Playstation Store and Nintendo Store? Does that mean Death Loop will now be cancelled on PS5?
No to all of these things. You're still getting Doom Eternal The Ancient Gods 2 and everything :)
No Deathloop so far is still a PS5 exclusive, with only hints of a possible Xbox release, as for everything else currently on the market? nothing will change there. Let's see what is said tomorrow at the event.
MS owns Deathloop now. There will be an Xbox release. It's not even debatable.
Yes they do own them, but they still have to honour initial contracts drawn up between Sony/Bethesda before the aquisition. If it was a timed contract, yes we will see an xbox release, but if money was exchanged for full console exclusivity, Microsoft would be in breach of a legal contract, and would therefore be liable to legal action from Sony.
Happy Bethesda Day!
Come on man, as much as we've and themselves, put them into the dirt..You gotta love Bethesda as people. Good luck in the new journey I say! (PS player)
They've released buggy messes that get free passes and near perfect scores that encouraged them to keep doing sloppy work for years. It wasn't until they actually released a game with no content (Fallout 76) that people opened their eyes and saw how technically incompetent Bethesda are as developers. They've burn a lot of good will with the fans.
Yes lets all get nostalgic and proud of Bethesda to celebrate this landmark moment for their bank account
Watch in a about 5 years time you’ll see MS game division close down some of these studios and lay off the staff in what Microsoft will call a strategic decision aka were bleeding money with little to no return on investment, I guarantee it.
You mean like Sony just did with Japan Studios?
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