The US Securities and Exchange Commission has just accepted Microsoft’s filing for its deal with ZeniMax. The European Commission is the only instance left to approve the acquisition.
Was a formality really, they wouldn’t have announced anything without doing their due diligence.
There was a question of whether the class action lawsuit against Bethesda would halt the process but thankfully it did not.
I say "thankfully" because I don't think class action lawsuits should be able to halt a legal transaction just because some lawyer says so.
In other words: The check cleared.
Lol they don't even understand what you mean.
Monopolies always get cleared. The departments tasked with enforcing the anti trust laws are all corrupt. They haven't brought down the axe since the 80s.
In what way is Microsoft a monopoly in gaming? In what way is Microsoft a monopoly in anything anymore? Most time on computers is spent on phones and that is going to get more slanted even after covid ends because ARM has closed the power gap. And now they're adding radeon graphics to phone chips. Apple and Google control phones. Microsoft definitely doesn't have a monopoly in gaming. Can one of you guys explain the whole monopoly thing. Thanks
And so begins the next half year long news cycle on just how MS may handle all of Bethesda's, and the devs under their banner's, IP.
If MS is smart, they will quickly address it so it isn’t an issue going forward
Or they let gamers and journos continue to breathlessly speculate forever, giving them mountains of free publicity.
They’d be stupid to not get on this right away unless they’re dumb enough to say just wait till next e3 and so on
The sooner they address the exclusivity, the sooner I can add the series X next to my PS5. Ultimately Gamepass will be great once they get stuff rolling out! Its a no Brainerd.
It's already been addressed. Bethesda will continue to operate independently.
When you don't have the talent or creative vision to add to the industry you just take what's already there for yourself
Acquisitions have always been a part of every industry
and that's a problematic whether its sony or any other company
This is one of the largest acquisitions of a publisher by a publisher. I think very little will change, other than MS could make a lot of money on Bethesda titles which will most likely be on everything anyway. $7.5 billion is going to take a long time to recoup and Gamepass will not be enough.
"Gamepass will not be enough." I have to agree with you on that unless they up the price which I believe they will in the future
Well of course it is...but not so normal for established devs with records and a great record of games. The point stands...they simply bought out talent that was already part of mainstream for many years just so that they can say they have xy and z. Who knows when there will actually be a bethesda xbox console exclusive. They'll claim that starfield and elder scrolls 6 is part of their 1st party lineup but it's not actually their doing in any way.
They've already recouped the 7.5 billion
"They've already recouped the 7.5 billion" Microsoft as a whole, yes. The Xbox division, no.
@RazerRedux Xbox is part of Microsoft. Microsoft bought Zenimax not Xbox. So Microsoft has already recouped the 7.5 billion is correct. Xbox can't recoup anything because Xbox didn't buy Zenimax. You are still wrong.
@343_Guilty_Spark "Xbox is part of Microsoft. Microsoft bought Zenimax not Xbox. So Microsoft has already recouped the 7.5 billion is correct. Xbox can't recoup anything because Xbox didn't buy Zenimax." That's all fine, but I was clarifying who "they" were since you were ambiguous about it. I didn't say anything about "who" bought Zenimax so that is irrelevant. I stated a simple fact. "You are still wrong." Your own post explicitly said I was right. Microsoft recouped that money, not Xbox. You said it yourself! lol
@RazzerRedux You didn't clarify anything because everyone - well clearly not you - knows Microsoft and not Xbox bought Bethesda. You said I was ambiguous yet immediately assumed I was referring to the Xbox Division. Don't play dumb now.
@343_Guilty_Spark "You said I was ambiguous yet immediately assumed I was referring to the Xbox Division." Bullshit. NecrumOddBoy referenced "recouping" that money via Gamepass and a return on their investment in Bethesda. "$7.5 billion is going to take a long time to recoup and Gamepass will not be enough." That was what you were responding to and as we all know - well clearly not you - Gamepass hasn't recouped jack shit. So you can pretend all you want that saying "they've already recouped the 7.5 billion" didn't need clarification but you are just lying and you know it. "You are still wrong." And you still haven't explained how I was wrong. Your posts are just bullshit all around, aren't they?
I didn’t realise Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Guerilla Games & Media Molecule were all founded by Sony...
Let him be. He gets cranky if he doesn't get his daily dosage of ragging on MS for one petty reason or another.
Meanwhile at Sony Japan, ICO, Zipper, Incognito, Evolution and SCE Liverpool...
They weren't....but they also weren't anywhere near as popular as they are today. They were bought early in their studios life and therefore grew and flourished with Sony. All these other devs that ms is buying grew and flourished without microsoft.
So than Lets see what games they made without Sony. And let's see what betheshda made before . Maybe all the big hits like doom, skyrim, fallout and so on. Microsoft always went the easy stealing way. Now Microsoft will have a big mouth and try to tell everybody The invented all the games in the last 20 years of Bethesda.)
The company's may or may not be founded by Sony, but it takes time to collect teams together, something that these Sony fanboys in this thread should and ought to understand. MS made mistakes but they are trying to rectify the mistakes of there past and its unbelievable that some of the FBs troll, troll and troll, when they know full well that those dev teams once made piles of pop and learned from there mistakes, it's why they make some good single player games now. To me there are still more positives of a MS machine than just SP exclusives, the multiplayer is miles better for a start, theres nothing really between this gens consoles in power and performance. You dont see MS scaling back or getting rid of parts of there infrastructure lately or pulling apart some dev teams lately as Sony are. From my memory Guerella games when I opened a ps2 was it's own dev team which was bought by Sony later on, I used to play that shooter they had on it, forgot the name but the enemy was the helgast and it was such a laggy game and a spawn raping frag fest.
You completely miss the point. Completely.
Buying and supporting developers is very, very different from taking a publisher.
Do you think it is easy to start up a new dev team and make sure said dev team can create great games? Do you think people with great talents are grown on tree and are just always available for hired? Smh.
It's so easy! That's why we all have 20 games coming out next week and own 13 Domino's franchises in each state. Nobody on here is anything but the most intelligent or successful business person of all time.
Learn the difference between publisher and devoper
@ Noctis And the key word is "team." Having creative and passionate people working together for 3+ years on a single project is all about those relationships. You can't manufacture that through a Help Wanted ad. @Mr. Dead Then just imagine that MS acquired each of those 8+ developers separately.
“ Having creative and passionate people working together for 3+ years on a single project is all about those relationships.” If that the case then why can’t 343 Industries (which comprised of some of the most talented devs out there and is created by MS) create a competent Halo game after so many years? Heck, even older developers like CDPR or Bethesda still make sh*tty games, and they those studios had been created for years. I think all you can see and want to do is making MS the bad guy, even if you have to ignore the logic that is literally right infront of you.
I was agreeing with you, but ok. 343's downfall has been the lack of cohesion and attentive leadership. So my comment definitely still applies. Not to mention, 343 is not that team that grew from the Marathon and Omni days of Bungie. CDPR ran into the problem of those people in the big offices upstairs calling the wrong shots. If that hadn't happened, we'd have gotten something quite special (eventually).
It gets really tiresome of you guys who feel the need to constantly dig a console dev or devs of a game, instead of just letting them get on with it and see how the road ends.
So when Sony does it what is it called?
This is an Xbox article so why are you and other Xbox fans bring up Sony?
I see logic is flying out the window in this thread. When has Sony ever bought out a publisher as big as bethesda, or a publisher with multiple AAA ip that have always traditionally been muliplat?
RazzerRedux Because everyone knows who are the people behind these comments and why they're making them.
The first to mention Sony was Xbox fans. Folks like SPEAKxTHExTRUTH whine about that when Sony fans talk about Sony in Xbox articles. But here they are again. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy, not defending the trolls.
You sound salty.
Sony bought quite a few of their top devs like Insomniac and Naughty Dog ;)
Oh get over the dumb schtick already. We get it, MS is Satan. Anything else?
"When you don't have the talent or creative vision to add to the industry you just take what's already there for yourself" And so??? lmao
Why Sony bought the exclusivity of two new titles from Bethesda? Because they don't have the talent to make dose games?
to NecrumOddBoy. If the trend continues and all upcoming Bethesda games are equally available on other consoles, Phil wouldn't have mentioned the phrase "on a case-by-case basis." Exclusive games are still coming, but only time will tell which games.
my dude really just came in here and deadass said it.
@RazzerRedux You need a tissue man. This is pathetic
What's "pathetic" is saying someone is flat-out "wrong" but can't show how because you know you are full of shit. I mean....I pointed out a simple fact and you call it "wrong"? Keep the tissue. You need it more than me.
Zenimax pretty much done then. Ubisoft on the way to GamePass in the next few months. EA already there. That is the traditional big three from E3 sorted. Now to try and get Activision on board (N4G may not care but it turns out COD is still a massive deal) and Embracer and things will look very rosey indeed.
Tax dodging tech giants taking entire publishers for themselves is not good, people are obsessed with brand loyalty that they're blind to see the damage this has caused other industries that operate like this.
NO SHIT! It's called Corporation just buying anything they can sniff, kind of like pedo...
Did you just compare acquisitions to pedophilia? No wonder society laughs at the gaming community.
metaphor Microsoft IS one of the elite corporation that gets help with bank and print money and buy aquisition and so on. Sony is not big enough so they are not invited. But they are slave to Microsoft. Anyways have a nice covid day
If you can't beat them, pay to win. Or something like that. Yay monopolies!
The disagrees must be people who love monopolies.
The only ones with anything even remotely approaching a monopoly in the gaming industry are Valve, Nintendo, and Sony, in that order. MS is only making these purchases to stay competitive in an industry where they've been grossly outmatched for 10 years.
I won't defend valve but Sony and Nintendo are far from being a monopoly given that they have competition. Xbox isn't a monopoly either but they are the only company out of the other 2 that is trying to eliminate its competition while the other 2 are simply bettering themselves. Sony and Nin have always grown their small studios to develop better games. While Xbox constantly throwing money around for 3rd party exclusives and to buy studios. Xbox just purchased 8 studios that were already making games for xbox. I wouldn't call that "trying to stay competitive" its more like, trying to own the industry. Xbox didn't need more studios it needed better leadership.
Xbox definitely needed more studios. Where have you been for the last ten years that you haven't seen their absolute dearth of first party content? Also, Nintendo has a monopoly in the hardcore gaming handheld department -- although they're constantly threatened by phones so I wouldn't exactly call that a true monopoly. Sony also isn't a monopoly, tbh. But they have undisputed control of the market. This gen they're also been very aggressive with third party exclusive deals. The sheer number of them is pretty shocking. They've even practically locked Squenix down as a 2nd party dev for at least the first half of the gen. Combine all that with their first party supremacy and it really looks like they're the ones trying to bury MS, not the other way around. Yes, MS needed to buy up studios the face of all that. How the hell else are they supposed to compete?
Had Bought* like anyone thought this wasn’t a done deal last year…
Come on Europe, show Microsoft a big fat ass, what it's deserves!!!
I’m really excited for all their titles to hit game pass with the pandemic I can’t really afford 70 for new games so this is really exciting for me
If they announce elder scrolls xbox only Sony will have no choice but to invest in a competing exclusive fantasy wrpg
MS has aquired many western rpg studios at this point, its indeed starting to look like a monopoly with the biggest western rpg publisher being scouped up by them.