"It's what's best for everyone"
I don't know who needs to hear this...(certainly not me since I have never heard of it)but...WHEN. IT'S. DONE.❤️(trust that it's what's best for everyone) pic.twitter.com/DVE6hQ9BVA— Cory Balrog 🖖 (@corybarlog) February 25, 2021
I don't know who needs to hear this...(certainly not me since I have never heard of it)but...WHEN. IT'S. DONE.❤️(trust that it's what's best for everyone) pic.twitter.com/DVE6hQ9BVA
"WHEN. IT'S. DONE." Ok....but that's what Sony should have said in the reveal rather than "2021". Sony is certainly in no position to suggest others "need to hear this" as if we imagined the year the game was suppose to launch. Love Barlog's work, but just STFU and finish the game.
It’s marketing Sony probably knew 100% that Ragnarok would not make it out this year but say 2021 and it get fans hyped and gets them to go crazy for a ps5 on launch day and beyond and I think it worked.
I agree with Sean. It was a calculated move.
My thoughts exactly. Announce a new God of War to generate hype. Sony fully knows what consoles it will release on as well. It could very well be cross gen. This was just to spur PS5 launch sales.
Same with GT7. I mean, when has a GT game ever met it's initial release date?
I told them this but ppl got mad. people act like Sony doesn't do this on a regular
As long as they don't pull a cyberpunk 2077, I'm good with it.
I was already surprised it was announced for 2021. Santa Monica has a decent track record of having a long development cycle, for good reason though.
Just make sure it’s a PS5 game only.
I never expected to see Ragnarok this year tbh, but I agree they shouldn't have said 2021. Having said that, I'm confident it's not vapourware. I remember back around the launch of the Switch I was sucked in by the promise of Metroid Prime 4. Around 4 years down the line and it's still nowhere to be seen. I definitely don't think we'll be waiting so long for this. I would imagine we'll see Ragnarok either next year, or possibly 2023. Same goes for GT7. I appreciate that things can happen and release dates can slip but honestly, I doubt Ragnarok was ever really on the cards for 2021 and I agree it was likely a stunt to get the hype train moving and shift those PS5s.
How about we wait to hear definitively before we engage in endless speculation. Sony stated 2021 only they can be the ones to change that.
@generic I think GT3 was a launch title for the PS2 lol
Yeah, Sony announced all those 2021 games just to create hype for the PS5. They knew the games would need more time.
"all those 2021 games" This is about GoW. What games (plural) are you referring to? Edit: lol......I love being downvoted for asking a question. Please continue....or maybe.....give answers?
@porkChop Any reasonable person should have known it was just marketing hype by Sony and all of those games they announced for 2021 would not make it. Them saying Gran Turismo was coming in 2021 was a clear sign to me that they were straight up lying. I did have hope for God of War in 2021 though since they have had a decent track record as far as hitting their dates. The fact is this a new generation. The scope of games and their budgets have only became bigger with each generation. It's going to take Sony and Microsoft years before they can truly hit their stride with game development. Sony disbanding the Japan studio is a clear signal that they are mainly going to focus on mainstream/casual titles that can hit close to 10 million sold or more. Get ready to see even less diversity and risk taking than the last generation. It puts extreme pressure on the studios left and games like God of War to produce. I can remember when publishers and developers on PS1 were happy to sell 500,000 copies of a game. Now games that sale 1 to 2 million are considered a disappointment. It's crazy how times have changed.
I mean Sony only really put data on Horizon Zero Dawn and GoW abd Horizon is still due second half of the year. Gran Turismo got a projected time frame mentioned in small print as "aiming for" and that was quickly removed at the time. Hardly the same thing. Also I think Gran Turisno possibly was hoped to actually be plausible that it would release this year.
@porkchop you do not know this, you are just making that up.
"This is about GoW. What games (plural) are you referring to?" The games that Sony have delayed? I thought that was obvious.
My question was obvious but you didn't answer it. What 2021 games have Sony delayed? You said "all those" as if there were many.
Yes, I am so sure they knew that the racing game they specified was targeting mid-2021 was going to have to be pushed into 2022. Ryan stating that they'd learned exactly how hard the pandemic was hitting game development this year was just a cover, obvs. Btw, what about the two or so games that ARE still releasing this year?
What games have Sony actually delayed though? They never gave any cast iron dates as far as I'm aware
Gotta love the answer without an actual answer. This is what the world is coming to. What games specifically porkChop?
@RazzerRedux Horizon Forbidden West is rumored to be delayed, but they are TRYING to be done by holiday. God of War due to this comment is looking like a 2022-23 game. GT8 is CONFIRMED to be delayed. Not everything is confirmed, but enough evidence is a cause for concern. Sony has always announced games and delayed them in order to build hype, this is nothing new.
Shiken Delays are a common occurrence in the gaming industry. I don't like Barlogs tweet on this but singling out Sony is silly.
I don't think there was a single gamer who say that 2021 date and took it seriously.
To me this was always a 2022 title and GT7 fall 2022. My question now is will horizon come out this year? It wouldn't surprise me with how well ps5 has been doing that Sony may push it to early 2022 with GOW in spring and GT7 in fall (just taking a guess)
Ratchet, GT7, Horizon, GoW. Nearly their whole slate of 2021 games has been pushed back either later in the year, or into next year. I don't know why you always play dumb and pretend you don't know the answer. It's far beneath you.
No, it is called asking a question and for some idiotic reason it took you two additional posts to actually answer it. I had honestly forgotten that GT7 had been delayed into 2022. Horizon and R&C are still 2021 games. You referenced "2021 games" as if they were no longer "2021 games". So for finally answering a simple question, thank you, but there was absolutely no reason at all for you to be snide about me asking for clarification. It is beneath you.
Are you surprise considering Sony's past track record with announcing AAA game for next year but delivering them 2 or 3 years after? I'll be honest to say that the real surprise is Sony actually respecting Ratchet and Clank release date because I had the game picture for Fall 2021 (Like Halo) but we can expect the game to be released as promised but for the rest lol.
I'm really excited for Ragnarok, but maybe Sony shouldn't have said this year if it wasn't going to release this year.
Maybe they thought it would, and now it isn't going to ? Delays happen all the time. Making these high quality games is difficult and hard to predict.
Especially during a pandemic that has no known end in sight. Hitting release targets is hard enough even without the whole covid thing
Maybe I'm blind.. but, this still doesn't tell us that there is any delay. Everyones already shouting that there is certainly a delay. This doesn't mean anything till the estimated release is pushed back to 2022. That's why 2021 was already a broad answer. Maybe they had an internal guesstimate that put a feasible 2021 release date even with a one or two month delay. We don't know till they tell us 2022. And obviously I'm not telling everyone what will or won't happen, but everyones jumping on board with so little information and don't understand there are still many many months left in the year to announce a release date 6 months out, which isn't uncommon. Read about how GoW had a huge change just before release. It's important not to show too much too soon.
Sony has been doing this since PS3 if not before. Look how long GT5 was delayed on PS3, then Drive Club a PS4 launch game was delayed over a year and was still broken. They advertise game that often miss advertised releases dates.
They were targeting this year. They thought it would be ready this year. For all we know, it may actually still be on-track FOR this year, it may be delayed, who knows? That doesn't mean that they "knew" it wouldn't release this year.
Yeah they probably should’ve held off on announcing a date because we were well into the pandemic at that time and it seems 2021 was too optimistic
Yeah Sony hasn't been very transparent or honest this gen so far. Lots of loose claims and words. That's usually something Microsoft is known for. Ironically, it was Microsoft that did well in setting the expectations for Mostly 2022 and beyond for 1st party titles.
2021 is not a good year to launch amazing games. Lets hope it gets better.
@waverider Why isn't 2021 a good year to launch games. Me and millions of other people already have a PS5. The numbers of PS5 owners will only continue to go up as 2021 progresses. Are we expected to be satisfied with no new marquee PS5 first party titles from them for an entire year.
He meant as a follow up year to 2020. All the games that were in development wayy before 2020 got eventually released. Of those some came out decent, some failed to make an impact (rushed to meet the deadlines: CP2077, XIIIR, Avengers etc). While the rest got delayed to 2021, hoping eventually the working situation will become normal again and work will be finished by the new deadline(Halo, Deathloop, Kena). But alas, 2020 had a sizable impact on working conditions that 2021 can't rectify. Hence games like Halo Infinite, Outriders might release in 2021 but other games are getting pushed to 2022 (Hogwarts, GT7 etc). Couple that with other social and management issues (Bloodlines 2, Dying Light 2), 2021 is not ideal now is seems.
...Horizon. Ratchet & Clank. Both are out this year. But sure, no new marquee first-party titles from them. Meanwhile, Xbox literally DID drop a console with none of those for a year and hasn't gotten half the community flak for it.
It's possible that they did think it would be done faster because of the new hardware and tools but now they may have realized how much more is actually possible. Premium games take time, maybe they could have released a good game in 2021, but they obviously didn't think it was good enough.
That or Covid.
If they were confident in the release they would have shown footage. The banner pretty much told everyone that it was 100% not coming out in 2021. It was a marketing stunt.
@DragonWarrior19 and if it comes out in 2021 what will you say then? Sony said 2021 as marketing to hype up the ps5? The ps5 didn't need "hyping" you dope, if they said 2021 (which is the last official date given) then the game is pretty far along in its development.
As long as we get Horizon this year I don't mind waiting till next year or the year after for the next God of War
I got some bad news for you. Rumors saying that's delayed to 2022 as well.
First I'm hearing of such thing
Need that in the next trailer.
There is a pandemic going go guys and these devs have to work from home which slows down development of the games. Sony will release it when it's ready while also safe guarding the lives of their employees.
Everyone knows that, Jim Ryan shouldn't have said 2021 if he wasn't 100% sure.
Exactly. The pandemic was already going on when they announced the new God of War would release in 2021. That doesn't fly.
@ Viking_mo Jim Ryan can say whatever he wants as he has information that you do not. You and nobody else on this board knows the state in development of GoW 2 so why ru pretending to.
After Gran Turismo got delayed to 2022 and Horizon is rumored to be not on time as well, God of war isn’t likely to release this year.
Jim Ryan recently said Horizon is still on pace to release this year. I'm not saying it won't be delayed but who's rumouring otherwise?
https://www.psu.com/news/ho... The same guy who leaked the PC version of the first game... so it’s somehow credible.
@DiRtY so he's credible and Jim Ryan/Guerilla games is not. This is the same stupid thing that happened with secret infinity fabric in the ps5, people spreading rumors as fact when the actual source (Mark Cerny) stated exactly what tech went into the ps5. We will get an update on release when they choose to give it.
Then why the hell did ya’ll say 2021?! To generate insane hype for PS5? Affirmative.
You folks seriously didn’t see this coming 🤷♂️ How could you not?
Literally no one expected it to be out this year, even after the trailer.
There was a trailer?
Teaser trailer... Pretty sure that's what they're called
The one that introduced the name of the game? If so then I saw that and haven't missed anything!
Great news! I hope developers/Sony quit handing out premature release dates and just keep releasing quality games. The impatience of gamers (death threats, nit picking cut content, etc) has to stop. They’re called ‘games’ for a reason; The community needs to be reminded of this. Anyways, rant over. Loved the first one, replaying now on PS5. Sequel will be epic!
I have no complaints.
Sony should have never stated it was releasing in 2021. I'm guessing a spring 2022 release date.
Why are people so hell bent this will be delayed? They made it clear the second game won't take anywhere near as long as the first game to develop and it is more than likely to be the DLC for the last game (which they stated was too ambitious to stay as DLC) turned into a new game. It will launch this year and it will be cross gen. Mark my words
Words are marked! Lol, it's not coming out this year!
What gives you that idea?
"What gives you that idea?" History with previous God of War game launches. Almost every game in the series has been delayed. Also why launch the game when only 5-10 million have a PS5. Wait until the install base goes up and you end up selling more copies faster. I enjoy gaming with Sony but they build up hype adjust accordingly. It's nothing new. I'm guessing between Feb-May 2022.