Jaydyn Spisak: Nintendo may live in many peoples hearts but that does not mean fans have to let them get away with everything
Their "fans" somehow manage to use their mental gymnastics to turn something negative about nintendo into a positive. The mind of a drone is an unfathomable thing to witness. I don't know why are they so adamant on defending them.
Speaking of, they've already spawned below.
Agreed. Nintendo and I go way back...but it's like seeing an old friend fall into bad habits. Am I a better friend if I say nothing, or should I say what needs to be said because it's what they need to hear? Of course, I know a corporation is not, and will never be an actual friend. However, sometimes a company's products can someone like myself, of all the good times I've had over the years. But, that doesn't mean I'm going to completely ignore valid criticism against them, and heck, I have criticism of my own. I love Nintendo, but the modern Nintendo isn't all I wish they would be. Some people on the other hand...I've literally seen someone call Nintendo's lack of price drops "admirable". Like seriously, WTF? Anti-consumerism is admirable now? Since when?
I don't get people defending full-priced half-assed remaster when full blown collection remakes (spyro, crash, tony hawk) didn't even have full-price tag. No I don't care if it's Zelda or Mario, and no, no matter how "legendary" or "nostalgic" the title is it still doesn't deserve a full price.
I don't understand how people don't see this. Activision is treating their fans of their older IPs BETTER than Nintendo is. Getting full on remakes for $40, not $60 full price lazy ports. In this regard, Activision is less greedy than Nintendo.
So the price should not depend on the quality? Screw capitalism, maybe we would be better off with a centrally planned economy in which notachance dictates game prices...
Why are you so adamant about bitching about them? I bet you talk shit about Nintendo, but excuse anything your favorite brand does. Bitching does nothing, you don't like it then speak with your wallet.
A lot of people believe that "Nintendo cares about us" that "Nintendo values us", and because of that, there is this undying, unwavering blind devotion. The truth is, that while Nintendo cares about releasing quality games, they don't do it because they care about anyone, rather Nintendo is one of the few companies that comprehends the fact that a high quality game will sell better, and thus bring is more revenue for them (the main reason why Nintendo does anything is for additional revenue). Third party publishers on the other hand are notorious for releasing endless waves of garbage (not all games of course, many are very good!). But for example, Nintendo would never release a game as broken as Cyberpunk 2077, Sonic 2006, Ghost Recon: Break Point, the list goes on. There is indeed a stark contrast between third party trash and the usual (but not always) higher quality standards from Nintendo. So again, due to this difference, certain simpletons have convinced themselves that if Nintendo is different from the companies that don't care, then Nintendo *must care about us*. But no, as I said before, Nintendo only cares about money, and nothing else.
Your mention of "drone" really hits the nail on the head. It's easier for them to follow along with anything handed to them, even if crap. Going against this would mean they would need to challenge themselves which they are loathe to do.
It's not just their fans. Anytime there is a legitimate issue with their so called high quality games it gets turned into a positive too.
Loads of Nintendo hate in N4G lately
Normal.. Who likes Nintendo ???
Over 80 million peoole appearently.
Disagrees? So I'm imagining the Nintendo hate articles on N4G am I? Some people are just weird...
Maybe people are just sick of their bullshit
I think most people are salty about that last direct and that's just festered into hate about Nintendo in general, I know we didn't get anything about BotW 2, but we got lots of good stuff, although I'm not defending some of their business practices, some of those practices really irk me. Basically people are just being spoilt brats (although f**k their pricing and lazy porting).
Dang. Nintendo hate is real today. LOL.
I don't think they are quite as bad as Apple yet, but their prices can be quite high for sure. I have always thought Apple had very overpriced hardware and always why I've built my own PC stuff. Meh, each to their own
No they aren’t. They also aren’t charging that much of a premium for their hardware. But they are for their software.
Don't say that because the rabid nintendo fans will bombard you with disagrees even though there's been about 3 Nintendo hate articles in the last day or so. They're a strange bunch
WIIU was the final straw for me. No more Nintendo consoled for me absolute ripoff also to note they always cut software support early
1. The only company that release the same game with two version and ask for full price for each and barely any differences or development from pre-successors. (Pokemon) 2. So expensive in everything and never been @MSRP prices. 3. Selling the portables without charger. 4. Mimimal specs. 5. Ports always been fully priced. 6. Always claiming to compete Sony and MS at launching then claim it is different. 7 .Pathetic online thing. Still pass like the Iphone or Apple products in the general
Their greatest sin is the demise of virtual console and the pathetic attempt at offering legacy games on Switch
For me, their greatest sin was not allowing for save file back ups without paying for their crappy internet service. I don't care if its "only $20 a year", that's $20 a year I shouldn't have to spend to back up my save files. They removed local save file back ups as a preventative measure against homebrewing, but homebrew ended up happening anyway. This was one of the main reasons why I homebrew'd my Switch. I'd refuse to buy one if I couldn't have homebrew'd it. Too bad the newer models can't be homebrew'd (yet).
To make matters worse, there's always an article celebrating when they do throw us a bone and some legacy games do get ported over. As for me, I see it as great at all, but I can't help but lament the fact that there are many more titles from VC that will never come to the Switch. A lot of people seem to have selective memory, and forget that was a thing. The Switch is a so-so legacy system when judged in a vacuum, but we don't live in a vacuum, and I can't help but compare it to its predecessors. Also, before the Switch came out I was anticipating the best legacy system Nintendo ever had, and I was kind of excited about that. A system that merged both the console and handheld VC, and contained the majority of games from both would have been awesome. That would have made the difference between the Switch being a system I like, to one of my favourite systems ever. As it stands...it's just a system I like. I suppose there's nothing wrong with that. It's a solid indie platform, and I enjoy the hybrid aspect just fine. I'm glad I own one. It just frustrates me knowing it could have been so much better.
yeh its quite tragic. especially if u point it out to them, they get all defensive and such. thats mostly the reason why i never own more than a handful of games.
Nintendo being Nintendo, scummy as ever.
They didnt get away with the Wii U 😆
I've had every single Nintendo console since SNES (Wii U excluded). When I had a choice as a child between a PS1 and a N64, for me it was a no brainer. Nintendo were already then known to have high quality games. I now own a PS4 and Swtich, and when the Switch came out it was really awesome! But now I find it lacking in games. The latest game I bought was Super Mario 3D All-Stars, and those are old games. Was really fun to play again, but the Switch really needs a lot of new games made for the Switch. None of these remakes that cost Nintendo very little to port to Switch, and they are just reselling the same old products. Very lacking in imagination and depth, very unlike Nintendo. Seems they want to do an Apple and play it safe and just hope that the fanboys will keep buying. Ever since Reggie Fils-Aimé left Nintendo, it feels as if the company has been lacking in motivation to keep producing top quality content that is a joy for the all the senses when playing a game. The concept that Nintendo has been known for ever since the 80s seems to have faded away for the past 1-2 years.
Give Hades a shout chum, one of the best games you will ever play!
I agree, except Reggie was the president of the NA branch. He certainly had more influence than the head of a regional branch normally would, but he was still not the actual company head. Most of the changes we've seen lately, I attribute to the passing of Iwata, and the new management that has taken over since in the main headquarters in Japan.
Nintendo needs to stop trolling streamers and stealing their ad revenue .
No doubt that Nintendo do exploit their fans love of their core franchises but I have to say, I bought far more games for my Switch than I ever did for my XB1 and I have been happy to do so as the games themselves are generally of a really high quality. Do I find it frustrating that they do exploit the popularity of their titles, yes I do, particularly their unwillingness to drop the prices of their games - how can MarioKart 8 still cost as much as it does? But I also appreciate that MarioKart 8 Deluxe is absolutely flipping brilliant and Nintendo know that those millions of new people buying a Switch each year will pick up MarioKart 8 for sure. I would also question whether Nintendo do 'get away with it' any more, I think they are called out on their practices regularly by media and by gamers, its simply that the consumer doesnt care and will continue to buy their products, I dont think thats the same as 'getting away with it'.
I bought a switch a couple of years back. I think I have only bought one game for it since, because the prices are frankly ridiculous. My daughter plays on it now, I stick to the Playstation..
ridiculous prices? Yet paying 70 bucks is not ridiculous at all?
you do know those full-priced games on the other consoles are only for launch and up to like half a year at the most for the most popular games before they drop in prices, right? Nintendo doesn't do that for their games but the others do.
@badz149 so what? It's their product, it's their policies, I mean if you don't like it don't buy them, that's how a customer can let them know to a company, voting with your wallet.
Bruh, you'd better hope Nintendo doesn't get in on charging $70USD for their games...because that is the price you will have to pay for them six months, a year, even five years or more down the road. At least when other companies do it, you will eventually be able to get the game for a lot less.
I've been waiting for the industry wide push-back against Nintendo since they became the market leader. Here it is.
Most people just don't care enough honestly. If they like something they'll buy it, if not they won't. Casuals don't sit down and say why is mario or zelda remastered full $60 when crash was $40. Nintendo has a huge fan base of casuals, parents, etc. As long as they have that they'll have guaranteed sales no matter what they do. Wiiu didn't capture this same market hence it bombed completely. Nostalgia also gives them that power. Sony and microsoft haven't been around long enough for that and they lack iconic ip's to capture the same market. They are geared towards more serious gamers and serious gamers won't be fooled, they will research and compare.
Sony and Microsoft have been around long enough and they have iconic ip's, wtf are you talking about? You must be one of those "serious gamers". Seriously deluded.
Facepalm** none of their ips match the universal appeal of mario, pokemon, zelda, etc. More "Serious gamers" meaning gamers that prefer darker, grittier tones are found on ps4 and xbox, looks like you completely misunderstood. Come on now, your salty is showing lol I said all that and you latched on to one minor comment with no argument to the contrary besides "no they do because I say so" They have great ips, I'm a big fan of sony but they don't have the same appeal. Kratos and master chief are probably the most famous but their not exactly marketable to families, women, younger children, etc. These are huge markets they miss out on and they are a huge chunk of their sales.
Nintendo have been getting away with it, Alll my liiiife. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I have two friends who are fanatical about Nintendo. They freely admit they are suckers and will pay whatever Nintendo charge for their constantly rehashed games and their slew of shelf filling collectibles. You won't change the mind of the indoctrinated. I went the other way. As I grew up and matured (at least in my tastes, poo is still funny), I got increasingly annoyed with Nintendo as they just weren't making anything I cared about. I haven't been a Nintendo fan since the Gamecube.
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