Naughty Dog has consistently delivered blockbuster games that have received universal critical acclaim and The Last of Us franchise is one of them.
Holy Sh1t That's amazing Congratulations to the whole ND team Well deserved
Wow that is mind blowing
The last of us was the best game two generations ago and the last of us 2 was the best game last generation. I'm wondering if naughty dog will release another game in the series this generation
Amazing games, so truly justifiable, but hell, that's A LOT of GOTY awards! Looking forward to the multiplayer they're working on. If Factions was anything to go by, this could be the one of the best multiplayers we get for the entire generation!
Brilliant franchise. Well deserved.
More than 500 GOTY awards spread across just two games, wow. Now, that's impressive
Glad to see all of their hard work has paid off with this franchise! They definitely deserve it!
Holy F"#$ Congrats ND!
There's no denying it!
While I would deny part 2 more awards than the 1st (just my preference) there is no denying that ND has set the standard for future devs. I absolutely 💯 love the uncharted series and the last of Us was amazing. Its crazy to see the difference between dev teams. It's like watching a stacked championship team tear through a regular season lol.
That's great!!! Congrats to NG!! 1 Agree = 1 congrats! 1 Disagree = 1 BIG congrats to NG!!!! (i want to see how many i get) :D
So... disagree is BIG congrats to NG? Did you mean ND or am I missing something?
Whops... yes, i meant ND >_<
^ Mr Luke, just to clarify, I have disagreed to your reply here to indicate HUGE congrats to ND!! :^D
Still think the first one was much better. Overall at least, obviously the sequel was a technical masterpiece, but the first one had a better story, more memorable characters, better pacing, and deeper thematically, as opposed to revenge = bad. I know this opinion is considered heresy however, so by all means, downvote me, or whatever makes you feel better.
The simple fact that you just said revenge = bad about the game either shows you didn't play the game or you stopped paying attention and actually have no idea what the game is about. No where in the game does it ever show or imply to you revenge = bad. If anything the game shows you the consequences of decisions and that an obsession can lead to an individual losing everything whiles in pursuit of that obsession. You are not the first, second, third or fourth person i have seen made such a claim and you will not be the last, but I am curious, care to back the claim up? 1 Also, I don't think it's an opinion when you make a claim about the game it never made or implied.
How about letting Druckmann himself back that claim up? https://www.theverge.com/20...
@Imalwaystight How about you learn how to read? Nothing and I mean literally nothing in the article you linked or in the game backed up the so called claim revenge=bad. The game is a tale of revenge as Neil stated, both Elie and Abby were obsessed with revenge to a point that, they both lost a lot, ranging from their families, friends to their livelihood, but nothing about revenge =bad. So I will ask you, where does Neil ever claim revenge = bad. I can only pray you know the difference between telling a story about revenge vs making a claim the director said it's about revenge = bad
I know how to read so allow me to quote yourself: "If anything the game shows you the consequences of decisions and that an obsession can lead to an individual losing everything whiles in pursuit of that obsession." The obssession in this game isn't to eat 200 flavours of ice cream, pet dozens of cats or collect 1000 stamps because you see, an obssession can be literally anything however in this game, it's a well defined and objective obssession and that obssession is revenge so if we were to just replace the word obssession with the word revenge your statement would be: If anything the game shows you the consequences of decisions and that an revenge can lead to an individual losing everything whiles in pursuit of that revenge. "So I will ask you, where does Neil ever claim revenge = bad" How about this: " “With society broken down, how far would you go for justice?” Druckmann says. “How much would it consume you? How much would it take away from your humanity? How much would it destroy your relationships? Those are all interesting questions for us to explore.” " He's literally implying that the pursuit for revenge can have nasty consequences and he chose to display them in his game so yes this game literally showed "revenge = bad."
Did you even read what I wrote? I literally said Elie/Abby were both obsessed with revenge to the point that it destroyed their family, friends and livelihood, you are repeating what I said. Also, let make one thing clear, when Zero said; as opposed to revenge = bad, we all know he/she is talking about, or referring to, the ending of the game, not what the game is about
It was 3 am so I must have missed it but all you're doing is contradicting yourself wich is hilarious. "Zero said; as opposed to revenge = bad, we all know he/she is talking about, or referring to, the ending of the game, not what the game is about" Bullshit do you know how to read? He's comparing the original to the sequel and this game IS about revenge and the effects it can have on you while the original was a story about love and how far you would be willing to go to protect someone you love. You asked someone to back up the claim that TloU 2 game is about revenge = bad and Druckmann himself said that he wanted to explore how revenge can negatively impact you and those around you "With society broken down, how far would you go for justice?” Druckmann says. “How much would it consume you? How much would it take away from your humanity? How much would it destroy your relationships? Those are all interesting questions for us to explore.”" Straight from the horse's mouth so I'm am going to ask you: did you play the game or are you that dumb to realize the core themes it's creators wanted to convey even after they tell you to your face what they are... as if the game itself wasn't enough because it's so in your face about it.
Bullshit do you know how to read? He's comparing the original to the sequel and this game IS about revenge and the effects it can have on you while the original was a story about love and how far you would be willing to go to protect someone you love. And I can say the original was nothing but an escort mission, a simple story and a very predictable ending that you can see from a country mile away. As I said, we all know what Zero meant when he or she wrote that, my point was for him/her to back up the claim. Which i am still waiting for him/her to do. All you did was repeat what I had already said over and over. Anyone that has been on this site long enough know exactly what Zero meant, and it has nothing to do with what the story is about, but a complete misinterpretation of how the game ended. It was 3 am so I must have missed it but all you're doing is contradicting yourself wich is hilarious. Says the guy that is literally repeating what I have already said since my very first comment
"And I can say the original was nothing but an escort mission, a simple story and a very predictable ending that you can see from a country mile away." Oh yes because TloU 2 story is oh so complex. Joel kills Abby's father, Abby kills Joel, Ellie wants to kill Abby. and at least TloU has an ending that made sense while TloU 2 ending is complete and utter nonsense. Abby, the person that tortured and killed Joel, the person that killed Jesse, the person that almost killed Dina, The person that shot Tommy in the face with the intent to kill him, the person that maimed her, the person Ellie traveled across the country to get to leaving a huge body count behind her and in the final moment, after everything that transpired Ellie has her she just says "nah, it's ok you can go". Pure and unadulterated nonsense and one of the worst endings I've ever seen in a game and yes that's something I didn't expect because I expected a lot better from one of the guys that was responsible for TloU. "Anyone that has been on this site long enough know exactly what Zero meant, and it has nothing to do with what the story is about, but a complete misinterpretation of how the game ended." Anyone that knows how sentences are formed knows that he was comparing the themes of each game "...and deeper thematically, as opposed to revenge = bad." but I guess that's too much to ask from you and I say this despite english not being my language but if it is yours, what's your excuse? "Says the guy that is literally repeating what I have already said since my very first comment" No, I am absolutely not. I'm saying that this game's core theme is literally revenge = bad something that Druckmann himself confirmed years before the game was released while you're saying that it isn't. You haven't adressed what Druckmann said for obvious reasons and you haven't told what exactly is the core theme of this game because the only thing in your mind was to retort what zero said about TloU 2 and according to your comment history that's a no no for you.
Part 1 was so complex i could literally predict how the game was going to play out within the first hour. It was fun, but extremely predictable for me, and held little to no surprises for me. Given your comment history and the fact that part 2 triggers you so much, I highly doubt you can stand any comment that doesn't fit your narrative. And as I said, we all know what Zero was referring to. You are the one that jumped in and literally began repeating things I have already said. I have no desire to keep talking with you when we are both referring to two different things You are entitled to your opinion about the game, and that is all it can ever amount to, nothing more. Also are you not happy the game is getting so many awards, from both fans and critics, a few more and it might end up with more awards than Witcher 3 and become the most awarded game of all time
Ah more bullshit from you. You were the one that asked to back up the claim that this game is about revenge = bad. I replied to you by posting an article in wich Druckmann clearly says that this game is about revenge = bad something that you have yet to adress so don't go on tangents. Zero didn't write in code or in metaphors. His statement was objective and this is what YOU wrote "actually have no idea what the game is about." and "when you make a claim about the game it never made or implied." because you know very well that he wasn't talking about what you're claiming he was and that he was comparing the core themes of each game and when I posted an article with Druckmann's own words you've been playing dumb just because you don't want that L on your forehead. I've seen many of those that like to defend this saying to those that criticize it: "you don't understand". Well you clearly didn't understand what its creators wanted to convey with their game.
Whatever makes you 💤 😴
💤 😴 Is that what you were doing while playing TloU2? I mean, "revenge= bad" is something that ND couldn't make more obvious if they wanted to.
Keep going my dear boy...girl or whatever you may identify as.
I identify as someone that understood the crappy message ND wanted to send with their game. You obviously can't say the same can you...
I have some cookies for you if you want.
I think the 2nd one is 10 times better than the first. My opinion
I agree as well.
" and deeper thematically, as opposed to revenge = bad." It's sad that after all these months you guys are still incapable of looking deeper than surface level, which makes the fact that you all like Part 1 better far more understandable, because it is a very simple straight forward story that does not challenge you (the gamer) as much as Part 2 does. Yet at the end of the day that is the beauty of art, it can mean so many different things to so many different people!
unreal but well deserved. quality games like these deserve all they praise they garner as well as awards.
Now if only they were good games. Never tried the second, but the first was excruciatingly slow and monotonous. Plot lacked any depth for a game praised so much for its plot, and the mechanics were just garbage. (I never played the ps3 ver, just the remaster, which I sank about 10 hours into before finally giving up out of sheer boredom) I cant imagine the second is any better and it certainly didnt fix the major flaw of the first, ellie, who I wanted to die so many times its almost all I remember.
“Now if only they were good games. Never tried the second...” smh
That's how it is with most people. Voicing opinions as facts without playing. After hearing so much about people's opinions based on leaks I was curious to see what the fuss was about. Literally everything was an exaggeration. I was playing the game and just wondering when were the bad moments gonna come. It wasn't perfect (some pacing, especially with flashbacks/time jumps could have perhaps been different) as any game is but to me a solid 9/10. I didn't mind the Joël thing because it felt justified (maybe it happened too early in the story or the opening of the game should have been playing as teen Abby first - which is my feedback on the pacing of the story. Story was good. Nothing too special. Execution of any other aspect was unlike I've ever played before. The best of the best.
How funny. You come to an article explaining how both games have won OVER 500 GOTY AWARDS to tell us you think they weren't good games. Well done son. Well done.
These are all opinions and most goty awards are done by games media. He has the right to his own opinion as well.
^ @gamer7804, who are you, his mom??
Gamer7804 Most of those awards are from GAMERS as well ... the game is sooo far ahead in player's awards to any other game to the point it is pretty impressive The game have 90 player's awards and the nearest game is 10 player's awards Find another excuse, Xbox fanboy
You sound like a hateful individual your opinion is Irrelevant.
Ok....but you are a die-hard Xbox fan so....
Plot lacked any depth but yet you quit under half way through? I wish i could share the makes sense meme 😂😂 and how can you say if only they were good games (plural) when you've not touched the 2nd?
Well deserved. It was phenomenal
Two of the best games of all time imo.
Amazing games. Well deserved too.
I can't wait for that ps5 update on to melt my TV.
Well deserve. ND is the top dog of the industry
As much as i was disappointed in uncharted 4 and tlou2...naughty dog do still make some of the best narrative experiences out there. Well done. Really wondering what their next game will be.
I'd like to know what games you actually think are better than TLOU2 and UC4? Story Combat Graphics Overalls experience
I prefer games I enjoy more. Some may not have all the elements but it doesn't mean I didn't enjoy them more. I'm enjoying rdr2 far more than either of them....i think that's the closest comparison of a game that is similar in the amount of aspects they focused in. I've also enjoyed the following games more: Hollow knight Ghost of tsushima Gravity rush Control Ff7 remake Unravel 2 (played with my wife so it was especially enjoyable) Shadow of the colossus remake Death stranding A plagues tale innocence Evil within 2 Horace Anyways these are games that enjoyed more overall. Goes without saying I enjoyed uncharted 1,2 and tlou1 more as well. As you can see I'm not a 1 track mind kind of gamer. A game has to do more than just be really well animated and heavily detailed.
Two amazing games. Thoroughly enjoyed both of them. Part of me feels sad that that story has sort of ended. I'd love there to be more games, but then part of me wants to see what else ND can come up with (new IP wise).
Crunch? No? It’s workplace abuse and the fault of dodgy management, are we sure TLOU 2 deserves these 500 goty awards because of these faults?? Hello? Crunch? H-hello??
Are you okay?
No, I'm sad. It saddens me that the AAA games industry is such an abusive place to work for a lot of people.
Crunch. In the US, regular non-gaming workers call that overtime. It is a common occurrence and not even remotely limited to the gaming industry. And often times it isn't while sitting at a desk, in a comfy chair, or in an air conditioned office such as Naughty Dog devs. "workplace abuse"....lol....ok. You need to return whatever device you are typing on right now because of the worker conditions of the Asian factory that made it.
So, pyramids (made by slaves) are NOT one of the marvels of old ages? If N4G existed in egyptian old times, you'd find a lot of disagrees engraved in each stone cube. What i want to say it's that you can agree or not with their methods but the results are great.
Fanboyism isn't slavery, it's disgusting corporate socialism. It's so funny how free-minded people can actually simp to billion-dollar companies who wouldn't know them if they ever fell over them isn't it?
Still typing on that device made under the workplace conditions you pretend to despise? Yep. You are triggered because we both know you are every bit the hypocrite I said you were. And your political views are just boring. Just regurgitated shit you read elsewhere that you mindlessly parrot to make yourself feel superior.
Of course, how else are you supposed to get the literal message across? I’m typing this on a phone. Don’t say stuff like “triggered” you’ll just sound like every other self-defeating moron propping up their own enemies because they’re sulking over someone’s comment. Oh “triggered, triggered, “oooh I’m so DAMAGED, stop being political to me I’m fragile!!!” Stupid nerd 😅 “Stop being meanies to companies that make my games!” ^ this is what idiots like you sound like. Dumb, old-age pensioners in 20-year-old skin. Live a little, you sad, weak, little pseudo-intellectual nerd. They’ll still make the games, don’t worry. I need to add this because the idiots who moan about my totally correct comments don’t seem to grasp that part. They STILL get to make their games regardless of how much better their working hours get. These developers are PEOPLE. It’s not fair for them to get treated like workhorses because you want to feel a bit of tingle while playing a fun game, especially when you will still get to play that game. The only thing that changes is that some hard workers get some nice time off once in a while, the same way both you and I do from our jobs.
"I’m typing this on a phone." "It’s workplace abuse and the fault of dodgy management, are we sure this PHONE MANUFACTURER deserves MY MONEY because of these faults??" Hello?? Workplace abuse?? H-hello??" So easy to use your own words against you. You are just doubling down on your hypocrisy with every post and you don't even realize it. Hilarious. As for the rest of your silly rant.... https://media2.giphy.com/me...
No it’s because I don’t make phones, it’s as simple as that. And also, confusing the work schedules of phone makers with crunching devs is... just odd, very “you” lol I ironically used to work for a phone company and used to create programs to help sell mobile phones, I worked 13 hour days. It’s very bad. And just because I managed to work 13 hour days, it doesn’t mean that they should be legal, Mr or Mrs or MX Uninformed. Well done for having exactly the amount of clue as you initially appeared to have. I love commenters on the internet, it’s a strange occurrence isn’t it? Everyone, no matter how uninformed, or weird, thinks they’re an expert on the subject matter at hand. Even if they fail in hiding their own selfishness in the process 😅
"No it’s because I don’t make phones, it’s as simple as that." You also don't work for Naughty Dog so I guess you can stop bitching.
Time you moron 😂 It’s axiomatic. Camping in your workplace and working a long time is something that anyone can imagine, especially those who have ticked 50% of that type of gig off their bucket list. I’ll bet good money that you haven’t ever had to do any of these things, you weak little lonely nerd. You seriously haven’t thought this through have you? 😂 Another internet pseudo-intellectual down. Well done, mate. “You don’t work for this company, so how would you know how time works, eh??! Eh?!!!!!!???” The games they make will still be made despite the lesser hours, this is a scientific truth, but what has been shown here is that you don’t seem to understand clocks 😂 Game devs working 9-5 5 days a week would still be game devs, making games, for greedy nerds like you.
So easy to use your own words. "The phones they make will still be made despite the lesser hours, this is a scientific truth, but what has been shown here is that you don’t seem to understand clocks 😂 Phone makers working 9-5 5 days a week would still be phone makers, making phones, for hypocritic nerds like you." But you don't care because you "don’t make phones" and so you are incredibly selective when it comes to wagging your finger at one form of poor "working conditions" and yet so forgiving of something even worse. And why? Because you need your phone and that somehow makes it ok. As I said, it also makes you a hypocrite. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. You can pretend this analogy is "odd" all you want, but we both know it applicable. You want to jump on your soapbox but ONLY when it is convenient. So ultimately all your bitching and whining is just hypocritical bullshit. As for me, I'm a software developer going on 20 years and I've put tons of hours over the standard eight in a day. That's my choice. If I wasn't willing to put in that work, guess what? I can find another job. So everything you said about me is bullshit just like the rest of your posts. Not surprised. You talk almost entirely out of your ass, fart cushion.
Last post. I've said all I've needed to say here and I really shouldn't be spending so much time bullying a simpleton. That pretty much sums up every one of your posts: simple minded. Well....if I'm going to be entirely accurate then I'd have to also characterize your rants as those of either a drunken fool or just a raging babbling idiot. I'll leave that as a mystery since there really is no point to return and see what else you are able to barf up into a post. Sorry for being such a bully. https://i.giphy.com/media/7... lol