[UPDATED on 1/22/2021 at 8:52 PM PT] We messed up today and you were right to let us know. Connecting and playing with friends is a vital part of gaming and we failed to meet the expectations of players who count on it every day.
They heard everyone loud and clear, smart move ms
I am just glad people were loud enough to be heard. Good on MS for listening to fan feedback.
Just the fact that they were trying in the first place still puzzles me.
We the gamers won this battle.
"We tried to rip you off... sorry it didn't work. We'll be more sneaky about nickel and diming you next time."
Well done on the Xbox community for rallying together on this. Now if the PlayStation community can do the same to get the increased price of games lowered that would be great.
Gazondaily, F.K.A. Septic (check the comment history), just had to turn it into a shot at Playstation fans. SMH. Xbox has really shown their behinds on a few occasions for the one major console manufacturer that has never won a gen, and has, in fact, never managed to sell more home consoles than Playstation's lowest selling. Imagine how they would act if they ever had the success of a PS2, a Wii, a PS4, a Switch. Or if they captured the market with a business model that replaces owning games with paying them a subscription fee to play games.
@Gazondaily Why are you pretending you were here criticizing MS at all? The only posts you made on this were after they reversed their decision. Suddenly, you are trying to make this narrative into a pro-Xbox community event and trying to shame the PlayStation community at the same time? What a joke. You and that shill of a website.
@razzer "Why are you pretending you were here criticizing MS at all?" Lol I dont just frequent this site- I was very vocal on social media and immediately called it out in the strongest terms. its very easy to find that but you're not exactly known for thinking before posting are you? "What a joke. You and that shill of a website." LOL says someone who has achieved nothing comparable and just frequents forums. Carry on being a keyboard warrior. Tell me, how is it that you keep getting slapped around even on this site which is Sony fanboy haven?
You think your silly little wordpress site impresses me? lol....stop pretending you know me or what I've accomplished. You don't. And no, I'm also not impressed that you waltz in here after the reversal to immediately turn this on PlayStation. You joined the chorus of MS critics for once? About damn time. You are a known quantity on n4g. Rebranding yourself as gazondaily doesn't change that, Septic.
"You think your silly little wordpress site impresses me? lol....stop pretending you know me or what I've accomplished. You don't." LOL! You have accomplished nothing. Either show us or sit there and be quiet (or you know...do what you're good at doing which is to just carry on posting like your opinion matters with naught to show).
GazOndaily "LOL says someone who has achieved nothing comparable and just frequents forums. Carry on being a keyboard warrior." "LOL! You have accomplished nothing." Harry Potter and the audacity of this bitch. You think having a website makes you better than other people. Jesus Christ, Gameondaily is a skid mark in the realm of gaming journalism - since you wanted to get cocky here - Im calling it as it is. Look at you trying to act like a big shot after making a completely disingenuous comment. You were rightly called out for your rubbish comment trying to drag Sony down with this. Who the hell do you think you are? 2) If you're the owner of that site coming here acting like you're an elite/better than other people then Im sorry, YOU should bloody well know your Goddamn place. No one here likes you.
@Kilua Lol now the alts are out to play! Stalking me via DM's wasnt enough eh? The irony that you're talking about journalism. Sit down little kid. "YOU should bloody well know your Goddamn place with your no name brand." LOL! 🤡 Who are you?? Haha a bloody alt and cant even show ur main acc? How are you piping up so much?
lol...Septic's triggered. Well, at least his idiotic "I'm a Xbox fanboy/let's make this about PlayStation" agenda was derailed.
"Lol now the alts are out to play! Stalking me via DM's wasnt enough eh? The irony that you're talking about journalism. Sit down little kid." Why does it matter if my account is an alt? How do you know if my account is an alt, Who am i? What is my alt account seeing as you know so much? How ironic, because i know your alt account, Septic. And that guy was downright toss. O, and if anyone wants to know what i sent to him, i just said that i could see through his bullshit after typing this: "Well done on the Xbox community for rallying together on this. Now if the PlayStation community can do the same to get the increased price of games lowered that would be great. Im a kid, apparently, but here you are bragging about your piece of garbage website, trying to condescend towards others by acting as if you're better than someone else because of it. Cant stand the likes of you, or your rubbish attitude.
Lol let me get this right.You all got triggered because I gave props to the Xbox community (that alone is a sin on here) for calling this out and said PS should do the same re: pricing. - Razzer insults me and the site (and apparently im the one who is triggered) - Razzers is wrong (AGAIN! This is some kind of record surely) about my critique of this - Razzer cannot point to a single achievement in his life or even something that's comparable. Still waiting on that answer btw (you did exactly what I said you would lol) - This alt Kilua who made an account 2 weeks ago private messages me with this https://imgur.com/a/YiWEhJi All this because I made this comment: "Well done on the Xbox community for rallying together on this. Now if the PlayStation community can do the same to get the increased price of games lowered that would be great." and on a site notoriously staunchly anti-Xbox ? And Kilua is so blind to his own behaviour he says this: " a kid, apparently, but here you are bragging about your piece of garbage website, trying to condescend towards others by acting as if you're better than someone else because of it. Cant stand the likes of you, or your rubbish attitude." My attitude is rubbish? You're quick to chuck insults but when someone slaps you back you take offence? How about this- how about you lot come debate this with me on camera for everyone to see? Or voice chat if you're shy to show your faces. Your facade will fall away very quickly because its easy type BS on a forum. You up for that? Or you going to recede back to making other excuses?
Be nice if other companies cared enough to listen about raising the price of games 10$ during a pandemic. Companies that try and charge extra for next gen games are complete trash
"How ironic, because i know your alt account, Septic." That's not an alt account. It's the Septic account rebranded. You can see the comment history is Septic's.
Gazondaily, Take a chill pill, lad. It's not that serious. You can praise Microsoft, I just don't think they deserve it. You are more than welcome to disagree. Apparently, that's why we have these message boards - to share our thoughts. To your point about game pricing from Sony...I'm on the fence about that. I think it is clearly a modest increase compared to a 100% increase in annual subscriptions. The thing is that Microsoft was planning to do this without any changes/improvements to the service: pay twice as much, and nothing fundamentally improves. And if it would improve, it sure wasn't mentioned, which leads me to believe it will not because that would have been made clear from the moment it was announced. Would I like to see game prices come down, especially given the current global economic climate? Sure. I wouldn't even mind people raising this point. From my perspective though, games being next generation and the associated budget increases and hardware-based features (e.g., haptics) at least makes sense for why the cost goes up. Gamers are more than welcome to decide if they're okay with that (hence, voting with your wallet).
@darxyde "Take a chill pill, lad. It's not that serious." Lol mate you're directing this at the wrong person. Look at the people who I am replying to. "You can praise Microsoft, I just don't think they deserve it." I didn't praise MS. I praised the Xbox community. "To your point about game pricing from Sony...I'm on the fence about that. I think it is clearly a modest increase compared to a 100% increase in annual subscriptions. " Agreed when drawn comparatively but on its own its still a matter that needs addressing. I do agree though that MS' infraction is even more inexcusable particularly considering the notion of paying to play online is just outdated now (and compounded with the fact that PC counterparts dont pay for it)- i said as much and more in other places. I take your point on board that increased prices for games can possibly be justified but if the competition hasn't caved in and esp during times like these, I cannot see any real strong justifications yet. But, Sony has traditionally shown better quality output for its 1P titles than MS so there's that. This whole fiasco does show that if people are vocal enough, things can change. Yesterday I even had some people trying to downplay this or attack people for calling it out as if it was pointless- they can now see how quickly things can change.
"- Razzer cannot point to a single achievement in his life or even something that's comparable. Still waiting on that answer btw (you did exactly what I said you would lol)" Because I don't have to. I'm not the one parading my website or my profession on n4g for all to see. And no, I'm not about to post my personal history on this or any other website and you know damn well why. You obviously tried rebranding your tired old Xbox fanboy Septic account into something different, but if nothing else I think we have established that is simply just a farce. The same old Septic as always. For all your pretentious bullshit, you are still down here getting all dirty on n4g. I think my work here is done.
@fr0sty I can live with nickel and diming, but what they just tried to pull was basically price gouging. It was such a stupid move I'm almost convinced it was just for show. Either that or they were finally trying to kill the Xbox once and for all in one fell swoop. Seriously, who in a competitive market would be dumb enough to double their prices suddenly like that? It boggles the mind
@Razzer No rebuttal to anything just mouthed off as usual. Cant withstand any scrutiny and did exactly what I said " (or you know...do what you're good at doing which is to just carry on posting like your opinion matters with naught to show)." So easy for you to mouth off with nothing to show. Amazing. "I think my work here is done." Lol yes it is.
I wouldnt call it feedback. It's not lile they asked first. All they had to do was ask anyone outside of the board room what they thought and they would've gotten the same response. It made absolutely no sense. I think they hoped that it wouldn't garner much attention and be able to slip it through. Thankfully there was enough backlash to revert it.
"How about this- how about you lot come debate this with me on camera for everyone to see? Or voice chat if you're shy to show your faces. Your facade will fall away very quickly You up for that? Or you going to recede back to making other excuses?" You've got one heck of a superiority complex dude. You see, i dont have to do that. And why would i or anyone else want to do that? Why does it matter? I've laid out everything i wanted to say right here and now and i dont owe it to you or anyone to "Reveal" myself or debate with anyone on video. Heeeeeellllllo, this is an anonymous site. Your choice to come here and wear your website/name on your sleeve and parade your name to everyone is your choice. Note: The fact that you have a website and have the name in your website doesnt make your opinion superior, nor does it invalidate mine or anyone else's. It doesnt make you smarter or more able. You arent above anyone else here. Whether someone is new, old, has alt account or not. it makes no difference. My issue here is simple: 1) Sony has nothing to do with issue yet you felt the liberty to bring it up, for no reason, even though other publishers are charging $70 as well. Dont come here acting like a proposed $60 increase for a year subscription to play MP games was comparable to a 10 dollar increase to retail. It's not the same. the fact that you tried to Drag Sony down into this and make it part of the conversation was disingenuous and you were rightly called out. 2) Coming in here acting like you are a big shot youtuber/website owner and telling other people that they've achieved nothing in life compared to you is 1) Pathetic 2) An ad-Hominen attack fallacy + a straw man fallacy + Begging the question (Assuming others have achieved nothing). It makes my fucking blood boil.
@Septic "Well done on the Xbox community for rallying together on this. Now if the PlayStation community can do the same to get the increased price of games lowered that would be great." So instead of simply being glad about this news you had to take a shot at the PlayStation community. I know this gen has been a rough start for you with power and exclusive games narratives not going the way you would have liked, so you'll take shots where you can get 'em, but if a $10 price increase in game prices is the only blemish Sony(They're not even the only publisher to do so) has made this gen I think they're in good shape. MS on the other hand could not afford to continue with this price hike because they have been nosediving ever since the Infinite gameplay reveal and this would have been another major fault after fumbling on the games and not demonstrating the power gap to start the gen off. The acquisition of zenimax hasn't been enough to starve off criticism.
@ septic, I agree, for once the xbox fans called ms out on their bullshit and got a result, good on them,👏 not sure what sonys game prices have to do with this but are we going to go after the other companies that changed their game prices too, or just sony🤔Why not mention them in your comment too....I think we know why🤣🤡
I guess I missed all the brouhaha. I didnt know gold was changing price and now it isnt. And now F2P games are emerging from behind the paywall. Thats great news. I been a Gold member for over 15 years and am now a GPU member. With the recent announcement I can get PS+ for 2 years for $60, I will be able to sign back up. I havent been a + member since the PS3. 2021 is going to be good for me with PS+ and GPU.
Naw not good on them. That was a horrible move and even at the idea stage the only way they'd approve such stupidity is if they believed they could take advantage of fools. Luckily this is one of those cases no one can defend. Because whether Sony, MS or Nintendo such a bold move would never be okay. Sony caught crazy backlash when they raised like $10. That was okay and I thought that was what ms was originally doing. I actually thought before seeing the price difference, cool beans. Not that surprised. But then I saw it was double lmao. Can't commend them when they made a choice so unbelievably bad initially it's damn near hard to believe they thought that was remotely an okay decision. Unless it was an attention ploy. To act like they listen to the community, so they make a decision people will never be okay with. To try make it up by removing paying for f2p.lol. that would be genius and I'd commend that though. Think who ever thought it up in that case deserves a raise lol
They tried this with games for windows they tried to get PC players to pay for online play and we laughed in their face lol. Guys were running games with dedicated servers for games in their house at the time.
The point is that they tried to pull this sh*t in the first place. Who knows what they’ll do next. Still good news they reversed their actions and removed their stupid paywall for f2p games.