Just what is Sony’s strategy for making PS5 updates to key PS4 exclusives?

Where are the PS5 updates for God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last of Us Part 2, Bloodborne?

[masterfox]

I think they only need to have unlock the framerate and let the PS5 power handle all the unoptimized assets for 60 fps, imo doesn't need to have a huge update to add extra details effects to the game, all those exclusive mentioned already look stunning as it is and are miles ahead than any other console exclusive imo, God of War is already 60 fps and it looks so damn nice!

[Tacoboto]

I recall a while ago Digital Foundry talking about Horizon ZD on PS4 being built specifically for 30hz refreshes.

Obviously, the Decima PC ports run at unlocked framerates, but that OG engine (and others built for PS4 exclusivity) may not be capable of it "for free"

[d3nworth1]

Killzone Shadowfall multiplayer ran at 60 and it was a launch title.

[_SilverHawk_]

I can't wait for the ps5 version of a lot of ps4 games.

[Tacoboto]

@d3n

That was a game built with that in mind. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying DF may have said that one specific game was engineered for 30hz refreshing - and if that's true, other titles could be like that at the engine level.

[Teflon02]

taco, think the point they were making. Horizon's engine is a updated version of that engine, the PC changes could be used to fix any issues. Though I do want to note Shadowfalls single player was technically 60fps too if I remember correct, but never really passed 40ish, so on ps5 it runs a clean 60

[Tacoboto]

Teflon - that's a heavy assumption that the updated engine can just be dropped in and work without other changes to the PS4 game's codebase. Just to effectively toggle 60fps on one platform, it wouldn't be worth it.

There are reasons UE3 games are still being made despite UE4 being out so long, too.

[Rude-ro]

This type of article only exists because it is the only thing the competition offers.
Pc or Xbox.
If either would ever actually put effort into something new, then we could have a real competition.
The clickbait “upgrade the past” is for morons while the mass majority of consumers look for something new,
That is why every streamer is having a midlife crisis right now... because games are stale and the viewerships are dying.
You have Sony exclusives... then you have, for the majority, repetitive third party games...
So the marketing teams are “how do you make old games look better ummmm derrr”

[LightofDarkness]

I have a PS5 and I'm waiting for these updates. Take off the tinfoil hat once in a while, it might suit you better.

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[Rude-ro]

@light
There is no tinfoil hat.
There is the reality.
Ie the console is upgrading games and patches can/could come..
But making an article about this scenario is idiotic.
Boosts are nice..
But the PlayStation brand is about the future.
Pc and Microsoft are stale as can be per new games,
They also focus on just making old games or stale AAA games look better to sell hardware... to sugar coat the lack of output.
Sony’s games were already a gen ahead and the ps5 is boosting games.
We do not need a strategy.
We need new and exciting games for the new and exciting hardware.

[Nodoze]

There isn't one. Jim Ryan is a complete failure in his present role. He needs to go.

[RaiderNation]

Not sure if serious.

[BrainSyphoned]

I'm sure being the head of a product that instantly sells out months after launch is horrible for your resume.

[CrimsonWing69]

I agree with you and that’s not me making a joke.

The same guy who doesn’t understand why people want to play old games, thought that rumble wasn’t worth putting in a PlayStation 3 controller, and is also not willing to take risks on new IPs... yea this ain’t the guy I want running the Sony show.

[RememberThe357]

Sony said rumble wasn't what people wanted because they were in a parent dispute and couldn't add rumble to the sixaxis at launch. It's was marketing bullshit to cover up corporate bullshit, not actual company policy. I'm not a fan of Jim either but he's doing his job really well.

[TheTony316]

The rumble feature had nothing to do with jim ryan. They couldn't use it at the time because of a dispute. Naughty Dog and Santa Monica are working on new IPs. I prefered Yoshida but Ryan is far from the worst.

[Duke19]

I actively hope that remasters for everything dont become the norm. Its ok to have good exclusives that stay on one platform. Im much happier we are getting a new HZD, rather than a remake of the first game. (and no - "they should do both" is not a reasonable answer for so many reasons)

[Kabaneri]

Charging you $70 for a remaster, more than likely.

[Killer73nova]

They are pulling a Nintendo

[Nyxus]

So what Nintendo has been doing for the last three years? Or does it only matter when Sony does it.

[RememberThe357]

I assume it sucks when anyone does it...

[Kabaneri]

It matter when everyone does it but Sony is the one that decided to make MSRP $70.

[Teflon02]

What remaster is $70? Because Spiderman is part of a 2 game bundle and is ultimately $20 when I got it and came with all the DLC, While DKTF released with a character as super easy mode as a side scroller game at a higher price than its release price. AND nintendo game prices don't drop while Sony drops em fast. It's not even remotely bad in sony's case when they could have sold games full price on ps4 all gen like switch is with MK8, New Super mario bros U deluxe etc, BotW and so on

[Christopher]

Their plan is to focus on new games.

[RememberThe357]

TLOU2 is a new game. Probably won't hear a peep from them til the MP is ready, though.

[VenomUK]

Ghosts of Tsushima released in July 2020 later got an update. TLOU2 was released in June and was Sony’s biggest game of the year, but it hasn’t received the same treatment. The fact that Sony made a Spider-Man Remastered game makes me suspect a PS5 remastered edition is likely.

[Christopher]

Personally, I don't care. I'm not about being 4k and it already plays at 60fps on PS5. I'd rather they focus on new content and games. This fascination with making console games updated like PC games only delays new content and games, IMHO. And I'm a massive fan of BC support. I just don't mind playing them without new bells and whistles because those games aren't good because of looks but gameplay.

YMMV.

[RememberThe357]

I definitely don't want to see a remastered edition but you're probably right, Venom. I was thinking along the lines that they'd release an update that adds the multiplayer the same way Ghost did. But TLOU2 as a graphical showcase is unmatched and now that I think about it I shouldn't be surprised to see Sony put out a complete remake with all the next gen bells a whistles. If I'm not mistaken the Remastered version of the original game did far better than the PS3 version, sales wise. Might we see something similar here?

[Teflon02]

It's devs choice I'm sure. SP probably did it for the sake of it since the game was fine to do so. While Naughty Dog is focused on MP, they'll likely either give away a remaster when the MP drops or release a ps5 version when mp drops. Bu Insomiac and SP definitely did those freely. Don't think sony was even aware of Spidey remaster with how it was anounced lol

[gamer7804]

Seems like it. But they could easily outsource this if they don’t want to add internal resources to do it. It’s doesn’t have to be an either or situation.

[Christopher]

That's money towards that instead of something towards the future. It's not like outsourcing it is free. Let alone outsourcing would take more time to do, which means more cost attached as well.

I'm, personally, happy with Sony moving away from updating games or remastering games we can already play if their future is in continue to be BC on future hardware. The attention to old games is nice, but I'd much rather they put that money towards new content rather than propping up old content that's still good, otherwise people wouldn't want to play them in native 4k.

[gamer7804]

@christopher if they don’t have the budget to do both then I’d agree take the money that Sony Corp allots them to focus on new games if there isn’t enough money to do both. With games getting delayed it’s been nice to play some games which have been remastered in 4K with better textures though so if possible it’s nice to be able to have the best of both worlds.

[aaronaton]

I think their plan is to wait until more PS5 consoles have shipped, there is no way that Naughty Dog and Kojima Productions failed to even consider a next gen update, I think they are both ready but holding fire, basically to make more profit.

[Ausbo]

I don’t think we should always expect upgrades from things over 2 years old. At that point, the studios next title is in full production and they may not want to dedicate the resources for upgrades.

Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, like ongoing GAAS and multiplayer titles that are still relevant

[jBlakeeper]

I’d rather they focus on getting the sequels out ASAP because I’m super pumped about them.

[talocaca]

I'm surprised about the lack of updates mostly for The Last Guardian and Bloodborne. They both had some Framerate issues and it seems like the PS5 would be able to fix it with raw power alone (as seen by the unpatched version of TLG).

Currently waiting before I finally try Bloodborne.

[SDuck]

why update it when you can resell it for $70 as a "remaster"? Downvote all you want, you'll buy it

[SonyStyled]

A bit sour are you? Most PS gamers don’t repurchase games they've already played, but buy sequels and new IPs. Hell, my last repurchase was in 2012 with the Jak and Daxter collection on PS3. And I experienced TLoU for the first time on PS4, much like a lot of gamers who skipped GoW3 on PS3, or Uncharted on PS3 for playing on 360. Unless someone skipped PS4 and has a PS5 now, there’s few who are purchasing/repurchasing a “remaster”

For PS4 exclusives, the PS5 is the patch. It’s just a matter of time before Dualsense support is added title by title

Ok and maybe you reference Demon’s Souls from 2009, how many gamers had a PS3 then to experience it then? That’s right before the 360 downfall where the PS3 took off. And telling from the videos and walkthroughs shared online, the PS5 players playing Demons Souls by their rage quitting and controller smashing didn’t know the challenge to expect unless having played it on PS3

[Christopher]

Remasters were required going from PS3 to PS4. Not so much now. I do feel the Spider-Man update should have been free to all Spider-Man owners, though. I didn't like it being attached to Miles Morales game.

[AnotherGamer]

I mean...the Pandemic happen.

[iplay1up2]

Series X already has updates for over 85 games

[Silly gameAr]

Let me know when they get new games that are interesting, then you can gloat. If you can only be proud that someone that has bought up a bunch of studios for clout, only has updates for old games, then you have a damn problem.

[gamer7804]

Sure, Tetris connected is a blast in multiplayer, bright memory is short but pretty fun has me excited for infinite, hive busters looks amazing and is actually better than gears 5 with cool new gameplay enhancements. You should give Xbox a try , gamepass is a great value.

If looking at 2021 , delays not withstanding look forward to

Halo Infinite 2021
Adios | 2021
The Artful Escape | 2021
The Ascent | 2021
The Big Con | 2021
CrossfireX | 2021
Dead Static Drive | 2021
Echo Generation | 2021
ExoMecha | 2021
Exo One | 2021
The Gunk | 2021
The Last Stop | 2021
Lake | 2021
Little Witch in the Woods | 2021
The Medium | January 28
Microsoft Flight Simulator | Summer 2021
Psychonauts 2 | 2021
RPG Time | 2021
Sable | 2021
Scorn | 2021
She Dreams Elsewhere | 2021
Shredders | 2021
Song of Iron | 2021
Tunic | 2021
Twelve Minutes | 2021
Unexplored 2: The Wayfarer’s Legacy | 2021
Warhammer 40K: Darktide | 2021
Way to the Woods | 2021
The Wild at Heart | 2021

[Silly gameAr]

@gamer

Don't hit me with a list of games that aren't confirmed to come out just to make MS look good. I have tried xbox. I'll pass until their game output is as good as their marketing and PR.

[iplay1up2]

Medium looks good, and comes out in a week. Also Gears 5 Hive Busters just dropped. It looks fantastic on Series X!

[IRetrouk]

Most of those "updates" are simply unlocked framerates etc that the ps5 also does to its bc games, not very many got the attention gears did.

[Donnie81]

Probably the same strategy as they have always had do the very least amount possible in the bc department then release the game again and charge you over and over for the same game. Ghost of Tsushima and the last of us 2 should have had full on next gen versions at launch

[FUBAR09]

Exactly

[Silly gameAr]

Yeah, the company that had FULL BC with PS3 for 3 gens of Playstation did the bare minimum. Give me a break. People just didn't want to pay for it back then, but now BC seems to be the rage all of a sudden.

If you're going to give MS props, at least give the guys props that did it first before them, and did it better.

Then people have the nerve to wonder why Sony doesn't put their all into bc and older games. Because they already have, and people didn't give a shit.

[Donnie81]

yeah and you see how soon Sony yanked bc on the ps3. The system was getting its teeth kicked in by the 360 and they had to do everything possible to get a system on par price wise with the competition and cutting native bc was the first thing to go. After that though they sure as hell started selling ps2 games digitally though then try to charge you again the next generation.

[Silly gameAr]

Getting it's teeth kicked in? Lets not exaggerate here. And, my point still stands. They did it first, did it better, and no one gave a shit.

[Kaii]

Game category aside, can we please (urgently) get some overhauls with the PS5 Ui.
Community sourced feedback and say 4-8 variations that the user can pick from is really what console makers should aim for.

Yes, the additions they've added to the ps5 are welcome, but adding the whole new hardware so we need to reimagine the user interface and not get some form of feedback o_O

Xbox 360 had (Friends>X amount visible from the home screen) so you could scroll across)
*Yeah this isn't the right post for my overall thoughts but it's something that's been on my mind

[Mister_G]

We

[DeathPanda]

There is no clear strategy because if there was we would have already seen a patch for bloodborne, GOW...

[FUBAR09]

This

[jukins]

I think at this point considering that we would need an actual ps5 version to really exploit features beyond full 4k and 60fps i dont think were gonna get to many updates.

[FUBAR09]

Well what's the wait Sony ? Microsoft is pushing out updates left and right. Even if the IP isn't theirs. They actually have a small dedicated team patching pretty much every great game from last gen and here is Sony keeping quiet. Its not like we have many exclusive PS5 games to play currently. This could bring in more revenue and keep everyone busy while more PS5 only games are being made.

[FUBAR09]

I know I have a backlog of great titles still to play or finish. It would be amazing to see them running at full potential. It's like playing then for the first time in some ways. Going from 30fps to 60fps is unreal. I wouldn't have said this last gen but this system is different. Come on Sony and game devs. Let's do this. Patch some of your better titles and you will see people come back to play them plus spend more money. It's a win win.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Remastered versions

[GamesAsAService]

I think a statement on what their plan is would be nice. At the very least give us some closure so we don't wait in anticipation for nothing.

I think it would have been nice to have updated the playstation collection games (a collection of games given to new ps5 owners) to be optimized for play on the new console.

[SmokinAces]

Just becasue Microsoft's strategy it to spend time updating old games for people to play again becasue they have nothing new doesn't mean that has to be Sony's strategy or focus as well.

[Mithan]

Personally I would be happy with 60fps unlocks for their games. A few games deserve a 4k remaster (Bloodborne) but I think most people just want FPS boosts.

[Smellsforfree]

God of War looks absolutely glorious at 4k/60fps off of the disc. Unfortunately, the PS5 updates the game regardless of if that setting is turned off, and I got tired of pausing/deleting the update so I just let it install. Hope Sony fixes the issue, but to be honest they seemed to always be somewhat hostile towards backwards compatibility. I wouldn't be surprised if they feel that they have ticked that box and are moving on.

[sin7279]

Meybe new games!

[DFresh]

It’s too bad the new consoles don’t have graphics settings like the PC.

[46player]

They need to do this. Many Xbox games were already optimized for Xbox One X.