Josef Fares, creative director of A Way Out and the upcoming It Takes Two, threw another of his rants to complain about Microsoft's naming pattern for the Xbox Series consoles.
for a reason many ordered the previous gen instead the series x xD
I wonder if that's why MS discontinued Xbox One X & SAD before Fall - reduce the impact of the confusion. "These names suck, you guys." "You came up with them!"
Xbox in itself sounds like a codename, they never made it to find a name for the OG xbox
The discontinued them, but they (certainly the One X at least) were still in stock for purchase for quite some time after that. Their naming conventions are complete nonsense lol
they're just names. i doubt anyone could find reasons on other console names as well like Atari, Interton, Amstrad, Action Max, or Sega's Mark III which they never made a Mark 2 or Mark 1. Or the PS Vita which is also just a name.
It's not confusing by itself, it's confusing because of what came before, they should have thought of something better.
@Cybermario The xbox one X, and the xbox one S DE were both discontinued before the launch of xbox series S and X. How anyone could order the previous generation is beyond me. The only consoles available to buy are :- Xbox One S Xbox Series S Xbox Series X
They suck at naming their consoles. It’s cringe
360 was actually a decent name, considering they wanted to avoid "PlayStation 3" against "Xbox 2," but it didn't provide them with a way to move forward. I mean, they couldn't exactly call the next console the "Xbox 720," given the number 720 being so associated with a resolution that was no longer considered acceptable in 2013.
Given what happened at launch, they certainly could have called the Xbox One the Xbox 180... Calling the third Xbox the Xbox One was just ridiculous.
Best it could output was 720... I think they missed a good opportunity
I think they have to avoid those silly terms and give XBox a normal name... "X", "360", "One" were all trendy naming terms that feel extremely outdated after a while. When you put a the names together, you have no way to tell which is the latest one, or even which is a more powerful one. For example "PS4 Pro" obviously is a higher end version of "PS4", but what the heck are S and X.
"360 was actually a decent name" It's a crap name, they may as well have gone full retard and called it Xbox 360HD shitballz!
I liked Xbox360. Everyone ended calling it the 360 which was pretty cool.
It gets worse when you're trying to watch video comparisons between current gen and last gen. Hearing the commentators explain the difference to even the labels they have to differentiate the two gens was confusing as hell.
You could say the same thing for Nintendo, there is nothing obvious that differentiates previous generations .
Whaaa-? That's not true at all. NES, SNES, N64 Gamecube, Wii and Switch are all completely different names and vastly different in design. Not confusing in the slightest. Aside from the Wii U, which was an odd choice in name. If you're not going to go for the numbered entry route like Sony, at least Nintendo gave theirs entirely different names. I don't know what Microsoft is even thinking anymore with their naming schemes lol. I browse gaming news all the time, and even I have to stop and think sometimes as to which Xbox is the newest one. Is it Series X? One X? X S? (Yes, I know which one it actually is, but most consumers are not going to be able to figure it out.)
Any 1 Item that has "Series" in the title just sounds dumb
It just makes it hard to communicate about Xbox as well ... Now I type XBox Series X to refer to the latest XBox, and some people would do XBSX, and then some do XB S|X to refer to this gen's consoles... But everyone refer Nintendo Switch as "Switch" and "PlayStation 5" as "PS5"... zero confusion.
They should have just went with a number. Xbox, Xbox 2, 3, 4, etc. I also believe there should have been one console only from Sony and MS. The $499 option with the disc drive.
Im very happy sony opted to deliver a diskless version. I have absolutely no need for a disk drive in either of my consoles. I just wish ms released the series x without one. Im very happy with my series s, but the x could have been improved by removing it.
Not releasing a digital PS5 makes zero sense. For Sony it means they cut out the middle man and get more profit per copy, and a cheaper console lowers the barrier to entry. Most people are buying games digitally now so it's a nice option, and unlike something like the Series S, it will have zero impact on game development
Pretty soon they'll probably use the same naming scheme as everything else. Just tack the year onto it. Xbox 2025 (or Xbox 25)
Josef Fares is awesome. Please never change.
Gamers like myself spoke about consumer confusion a lot. All these names and versions on the market. Just poor planning on Microsoft's part. If they were so worried about names and numbers, they should have called the Xbox One X the "X4." It's simple and effective. And just state that it's the 4th most powerful Xbox console they have released since joining the console industry. Which would be true. Then, with the new generation systems being released, they should have called Xbox Series X the "X5." Totally simple again. And matches Sony's number game with PS5. They would have been on equal footing at 5 calling it the X5. The name also wouldn't sound inferior to Sony's PS5 name. Why they didn't think of this easy way of catching Sony in naming and branding is anyone's guess. Then with the next console, they call it the X6. Which matches PS 6.
Probably because BMW already use X4 X5 X6 for naming their car models.
There are also mops, air purifiers, x-ray units, PC tower cases, etc. Microsoft's "X5" gaming and home entertainment system shouldn't have a problem if those other products don't.
I don't believe it has anything to do with matching Sony's numbering system. You're talking about the same company that used Windows versions of: 3.1 95 98 XP Vista 7 8 8.1 10
Microsoft was afraid to call their Xbox system certain things because it would sound like they were behind or inferior to PlayStation. Their current naming game confuses consumers as there are gamers that bought the wrong console during the holidays. Calling it X5 even fits Microsoft's idea of no more generations. Because it wouldn't follow generations like Sony's naming, it would follow their next powerful system.(Xbox, 360, Xbox One, One X which should have been X4.) But hey. What do I know. Sony naming their consoles PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 and then, PS5, makes it easy to understand where everyone worldwide knows and understands what it is and wants the latest version. With 3 consoles selling over 100 million. They must be doing something right.
Yes but xbox executives nor it's fans want to understand. You never ever name any product that could cause any confusion for potentially new customers(did ms not learn anything from their competition in nintendo who confused their consumers by going from Wii to wiiu) But it's not like a name change would make it compete better with PlayStation or nintendo
Of course it is.
i only wonder how many kids got the wrong console because of this haha xD
The idea that Microsoft can't give their consoles a basic numbering just because Sony would be "one number ahead of them" is so silly. Seriously *no one in the world would care* if we had PS3 vs Xbox 2 back then. Everyone would know that Xbox 2 is "current" back then because its the only Xbox platform on store shelves! Even worse, they had an opportunity to name their newest console "Xbox 5" but they didn't go for it. Xbox - 1 Xbox 360 - 2 Xbox One - 3 Xbox One X - 4 Xbox Series X - 5 So why not just call it Xbox 5X / 5S? These guys in suits over at Redmond just don't get it.
Would you really consider the One X a full 4? I always felt like it was a 3.5
I understand where you're coming from, but remember, Microsoft skipped Windows 9. We went from Windows 8 to Windows 10, this is Microsoft's own form of 'logic'. I don't consider the upgrade of One X a full 4, but just use it as an excuse (MS uses excuses all the time as the example above) just to reach parity with Sony and be done with the awful naming scheme once and for all.
yeah MS are really good at coming up with oddball console names and variants. they are really more of an extension of the xbox,one family of consoles aside from power levels. They share the same s and x variants as well as same UI. Heck the series s looks very close to the one s. Same design pretty much. Should have just called them Xbox One Series S/X. The word Series denoting the generational upgrade/hardware change. Then they would have just been an evolution of the One S and One X models.
perhaps if you're an idiot
xbox 360 was a really good name. xbox one was also decent. next gen should have had another name the series sx is rubbish
They should have called it Xbox Infinity.
I'm not sure how ANY real gamer can be confused by the name. People just like to be dramatic. Is the name stupid? Yes is it confusing to the gaming community? No. And before you people start acting like 60 year Olds are in these gamestops looking for these consoles let me tell you that ALL these damn games/consoles confuse them. Any parent born in the 70's 80's most likely grew up playing games and will not be confused by this...
I like the naming structure, its far more creative than just slapping a sequential number on it. Also, if it confuses you, your an idiot and should probably spend your time somewhere else, like primary school.
Did they happen to teach you the difference between your and you’re in primary school?
Get a load of this guy, who cares about 'creative video game console naming schemes.' Who wants creativity when it comes to console names? Everyone wants logical and simple. Sequential numbers are perfect for that, why change something that makes sense? Unless of course, you're not making any sense. Have you considered that yet?
Josef Fares the angry Oscar-hating genius behind the good? A Way Out. I agree with him.
Spoken like a man who got halfway through developing a game on the wrong Xbox.
They should've named Xbox one X, Xbox 4k this way it would be less confusing with the series X. And series S would be series Z
You have to be dumb as hell to order a previous gen console the word Series should pop into your brain when buying lmao this makes me laugh.
Guy is an idiot
He is an idiot for saying what so many others have already said? Yeah right. And now Microsoft has resorted to calling their consoles "Xbox Series X|S and Xbox One X|S" as if that clears it up. The naming convention is what is idiotic, not Fares.
He's right you know.
Xbox 4K. It is the fourth main Xbox console to be released and is focused on 4K from day one.
They had windows 8, and then jumped to win 10 cause of mac os 10. They should have called it xbox 5 and nobody would blink.
They should have just went with numerics. Or at least use completely different names like Nintendo.
Things got confusing with Xbox One. And when I started talking about Xbox one I had to clarify that I was talking about the first one not the second one which is essentially the third one.
I mean...he's not wrong?
1: Josef is a legend. 2: He's damn right.
How stupid you have to be to thing it's confusing?
FFS Really not that difficult
To come up with a decent none confusing name, you're right its not so they should have.
Should have been....Xbox(2002), Xbox 360(2005), Xbox 720(2013) and now the Xbox 2160(2020).
Really? Name is fine for most. It is what it is..
What other previous Xbox had SERIES in its name and looks like a black Necron Monolith ....genuinely curious.
The problem started with the xbox one, xbox one s and so on...
Xbox has the worst naming convention of any of the consoles. As bad as Nintendo's is, at least the names they use is (usually) catchy.
The Xbox series is a great series of consoles, but Jesus Christ let's be honest, the names are awful. Xbox | Xbox 360 | Xbox One | Xbox One S | Xbox One X | Xbox Series X | Xbox series S That really is dumb. I'm sorry, it's pathetic. The consoles are excellent and they deserve better names.
Which one has Series in it?
Some baboon idiots in suits got paid to come up with such intelligent naming schemes. Not only is it not creative at all, it goes completely against common business sense. DERP
Funny you say that because an idiot above named "someone72" claims that it is "far more creative" than simple sequential numbering. He gave me a good chuckle with that comment.