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Cyberpunk 2077 — Our Commitment to Quality

CDPR: "Dear gamers, we are committed to fixing bugs and crashes and will continue to work and improve the game via future updates."

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TGGJustin1624d ago (Edited 1624d ago )

Q: Didn’t you test old-gen consoles to keep tabs on the experience?

A: We did. As it turned out, our testing did not show many of the issues you experienced while playing the game. As we got closer to launch, we saw significant improvements each and every day, and we really believed we’d deliver in the final day zero update.

So new year same old lies from this pos company. Consoles aren't PCs. If they played this game on a base PS4 and base Xbox One then it is impossible they didn't see the problems that people have with them. We're not talking about some random bug we're talking about horrible framerate, textures that take forever to load, poor visuals, horrible bugs, and so much more. It's one lie after another with them. It's also ridiculous that they act like this game is perfect on PC when it's full of bugs, poor AI, a lifeless world, and so on on there too.

-Foxtrot1624d ago

I don't know how they can bullshit to our faces and pretend like they never saw anything wrong

They are really saying that despite all of their testing, all the Quality checks, the play testers and whatever else is in place, they hardly saw any of the issues on last gen consoles, even going far to say they saw improvements

That's so f******* bad man

SullysCigar1623d ago

They've learned nothing. They're making what they think are the right noises to slither back into the good books. Less talk, more action. Give us the results that should have been there for us at launch and then move on to more content for this game or go to the next one - and SHOW us you've changed.

Army_of_Darkness1623d ago

Wow! This guy literally thinks we're a bunch of F*#king idiots!?
How are some gamers cool with this? Sure some of y'all PC's can run it good but think outside the box people! We can't let them get away easy on this one otherwise they won't learn anything and just repeat the same thing next time around.

Bobertt1623d ago

From what i remember from leaks from the devs, they claim the execs knew the game was buggy but they didn't really pay attention or the people under them who are supposed to inform them downplayed it and they figured they would have them fixed by launch with the day 1 patch, but the devs knew it was not going to be ready. If that is true it's retarded none of the execs decided to play the game before launch.

Christopher1623d ago

What's worse is that he's throwing all the QA on the team (all 65+ of them) under the bus with statements like that.

NeoGamer2321623d ago

In the video the leadership team took full responsibility for the shipped product and said that their testing was inadequate, the older consoles were challenging to work with, and COVID also played a role.

I'm not sure what is wrong with what was said.

Did you expect them to say that are testers are losers, our team sucked, and we should just dig and hole, jump in and bury ourselves?

There is a delicate balance in a video like this. Comin out and saying we should've did better and not blaming the people working there as they put in huge hours probably to do the best they could do. You don't want to tell your team they aren't smart or valuable. But, at the same time you are trying to say we need to do better. I think that he did that well. They've promised three new patches, free dlc, and the nextgen updates in the second half of the year.

This situation just reminds me of why I don't buy games on day one anymore, Wait about 6 months on SP games and about a year on MP games, and other people go through the frustration and I just enjoy the game from end-to-end.

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nickanasty2061624d ago

Could it be possible that they have way lower standards for what is actually acceptable? Not trying to make excuses at all for them because to me its unacceptable. Just wondering if the people they had doing QA testing really do honestly think it was in good shape?

JEECE1623d ago (Edited 1623d ago )

I think a big part of it is that they don't understand that a greater number of gamers are becoming aware of framerate and are also less willing to tolerate bugs.

If you go back and watch GTA V on PS3 and 360, you'll find drops into the low 20s. Bethesda titles from that era would be similar, and were also loaded with bugs (New Vegas on PS3, anyone?). I think they gambled that people playing on base consoles still were not the type to get worked up about or even notice performance issues. Ten years ago they might have gotten away with it.

TGGJustin1623d ago

@Jeece A big thing you are missing though is that all of those games you mentioned were shown before hand to at least give gamers an idea of what they were getting into. CDPR showed nothing but PC footage leading up to release and misled people into thinking that the console versions would be a similar experience. Heck reviewers weren't even allowed to use their own footage which isn't something you ever really see.

calderra1623d ago

They explicitly disallowed reviewers from posting PS4 footage.
If YongYea or Laymen or whomever had said PS4 was crap, they'd be blackballed from reviewing for CDPR.
Still think CDPR didn't know?

moomoo3191623d ago

Game looks great but where tf is all the traffic? If you are not in the city literally no cars on the road. Cops also spawn out of thin air. The wanted system is straight up non-existent. Im playing on PC but its clear the open world needed another 6 months EASILY.

-Foxtrot1623d ago

And games journalists are the ones who, when giving us the final preview of Cyberpunk, were praising Night City for how big, alive and captivating it was.

enkiduxiv1623d ago

@Foxtrot I can't help but think that some of the rage directed at the company should go towards all of those day one reviewers and the gamers that fall for their nonsense. Don't get me wrong. CDPR needs to be held accountable for its misleading marketing. However, at the end of the day this manipulative launch would never have happened if the Day One reviews hadn't put the game at a 93 on Metacritic.

I ultimately played it on PC and, while I enjoyed it, it was definitely buggy and immersion breaking in places. I don't see how having a PC copy of the game to review really could have effected the review scores all that significantly.

This launch highlights something we all know about and largely ignore. Game criticism is almost entirely under the control of the publishers. If they want their game to launch with perfect scores or even win game of the year they can just make it happen. I know the gaming community often blames this on casuals, but casuals by definition don't consume that much gaming media. When was the last time that friend we all have that just plays FIFA and GTAV went online to look for a game review or watched an award show. It's the hardcore gaming community that fell for CDPR and believed it could do no wrong. They are the ones who pre-ordered the game in droves a year before it released. The problem starts there.

calderra1623d ago

CDPR edited the game page so 2077 is officially "action-adventure" genre, not an RPG.

People still think the RPG mechanics and open world are going to get "fixed".

Wake up Samurai, you just got burned.

neutralgamer19921623d ago (Edited 1623d ago )

TGG

Even on pc this game is a mess with all the bugs and glitches. From broken police system , to poor NPC who disappear right when you turn the camera away. How about npc walking in circles something they Skyrim got right on very old hardware.

The amount of excuses from gamers depending this is not surprising since gamers are the biggest Hippocrates because they will defend one game if it's coming from their favorite company but then they'll bash another game if it's not coming from their favorite company for the same issues

Here's a case in point electronic arts puts micro transactions in Star wars battlefront 2 in the internet blew up yet Ubisoft has been adding XP boosters to single player games and gamers are okay with it and they make excuses like well you don't have to buy them

until we as gamers decide enough is enough and everybody is going to be getting equal treatment nothing is going to change. What's really stinks is when I saw a common saying well when Witcher 3 launched it it was also very buggy so cyberpunk 2077 will be fixed over time, then why are the developers charging full price for something that will be fixed over time

Stop with excuses this game was the most hyped game in past 10 to 15 years and it did not meet expectations it launched when it was not ready whether we were talking about consoles or PC this game is a buggy mess with a lot of glitches everywhere

Father__Merrin1623d ago

The only things Ng a high end of does is brute force a higher frame rate and even then it's not smooth or stable. All the bugs and glitches remain.

They should have released in the summer on pc then console during fall '21

Elda1623d ago

CDPR refusing to let reviews & footage of the console versions when the embargo was lifted told it all that they were hiding.

neutralgamer19921623d ago

Exactly they knew what shape this game was in and even on pc it's a mess so it's not like pc gamers got the compete version. As a gamer what's really sad is this game had so much hype and potential and we as gamers felt like CDPR will do is right because they are pro consumers than they didn't even show gameplay for all platforms

philm871623d ago

How many of you have actually played it on the base consoles?

calderra1623d ago

CDPR explicitly demanded in their review embargo that you could NOT show your own footage of the console versions, and you could NOT talk about the console versions. You had to use their (pre-rendered, PC) footage to show the game in the best light on consoles.

Still want to pretend CDPR didn't know?

stloony1623d ago (Edited 1623d ago )

As a QA lead in a software company...."infuriating&q uot; would be the word.

100% the QA testers knew what was up.

If I was one of them at that company, I would be speaking out against every lie these guys are stating. Yes, they would get fired for doing that, but the public would easily back them up and help them with any financial downfall that might have caused.

These obvious lies are not helping anything.

yeahokwhatever1623d ago

i think one of two things when i heard this from him:
1) their QA team is non-existent, insufficient or just bad.
OR
2) they've created a work environment where QA engineers are afraid to speak up or be too "negative" because they're always met with hostility.

I've seen both of these things IRL.

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RaidenBlack1624d ago

2nd half of 2021 is a long way off.
Lets see in 10 days, what they've able to improve.

JeffGUNZ1623d ago

Yeah, this game is going to fade off quick I think. PC players have beaten it and now it doesn't look like any content at least till the summer by gauging that timeline. What a let down. This game had so much potential and now it's just a joke.

RaidenBlack1623d ago

Actually many PC players waited it out coz they wanted to upgrade to newer GPUs and then play the game (Since both launches coincided). So becoz there was shortage of GPUs in 2020, they'll instead pick it up in 2021.
For console players ... many also waited for the console version reviews and ultimately refrained from buying. And are waiting for either performance stability patch for previous gen or current-gen upgrade patch.

Christopher1624d ago

And people thought I was joking when I said 2021 Holiday for next-gen upgrades on console.

The-Matrix-has-you1624d ago

I certainly wasn’t expecting it to be so late in the year. I hope I am still interested in the game by then.

Christopher1624d ago (Edited 1624d ago )

I'm assuming, combined with the tons of updates they'll have to do over the next 3-4 months just to get the game stable, they have a requirement to maintain focus on the DLC per shareholder agreements to their schedule. Those take precedence over the free next-gen upgrades.

neutralgamer19921623d ago

Yes I think this game will be better come late next year and we might even be looking at 2022 just for them to keep patching/updating

Not sure even if CDPR have the guts to announce any dlc/expansions until this game becomes very stable on all platforms. Making this game stable and playable is what the priority has to be right now. They have lost estimatedly close to 1 billion dollars since the launch of this game via stock market/refunds

Christopher1623d ago

They showed in the video that DLC would start to release about 3 months.

SullysCigar1623d ago

Haha, well it is a joke - the whole damn situation!

I_am_Batman1623d ago

I'm not even sure that's gonna happen. Roadmaps from CD Projekt are about as useful as a one-legged man at an ass-kicking contest.

ArchangelMike1623d ago

At this rate it might be best if they just relaunch the game when the next gen updates are ready, along with the DLC etc. They've been burned by shareholder expectations, I hope they don't repeat the same mistake by allowing shareholders to dictate their schedules, instead of the QA and dev teams - who are the ones who know when the content is ready for market.

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niseek1624d ago

For me the biggest problem is the difference in what they presented in gameplay videos to what we actually received. I know stuff changes in development but the game is not the deep RPG they were advertising.

StoneyYoshi1623d ago (Edited 1623d ago )

Like the first 40 minute gameplay where they said "everything you see is potentially subject to change"?

And boy did they warn us! lol

enkiduxiv1623d ago

Strat-edgy on youtube talks about this in his review of the game. The problem is that they had all of the hardcore rpg fans thinking it would be more like a CRPG with branching narratives and player agency. Instead they made it like a modern Bioware rpg. The story is decent, but it was very misleading. I liked the story telling in this game, but I can certainly see why people were disappointed.

JeffGUNZ1623d ago

This. I am lucky enough to play this on a high end PC. I beat everything I can in this game. This is absolutely nothing like the game they advertised and showed off over the years. That's the real crime.

isarai1623d ago

Just shut up and fix it...ffs🤦‍♂️

Christopher1623d ago

They can do both, just FYI. It's literally his job to do this while the people who can fix the game are doing just that.

wwinterj1623d ago (Edited 1623d ago )

It is indeed his job to lie in order to try and appease fans and investors.

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Cyberpunk 2077's 2.3 Update Opens a Pandora's Box the Game Can't Close

Cyberpunk 2077 is getting a new update after developers previously stated it no longer would, bringing the possibility of more still to come.

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hollabox9d ago

I'm hoping the update fixes their poor FSR 3 implementation, and add FSR 4. FSR 2 looks better than FSR 3 in CP2077 by a wide margin. On my 7900XT I just use XESS if I want to add RT at custom 3K resolutions. Already beat the main game, but half way through Phantom Liberty expansion. I would like to get back to it later on this month.

anast9d ago

I have more hours in this game than any other. I would happily put more into it.

MastaMold9d ago

I second this and a PS5 PRO patch too please.

RhinoGamer889d ago

I finished it and had a blast, wish there was a new game + option.

Demon-kun5d ago

I wanna be able to dual wield it would add a decent bit I feel hell if they wanted they could even let us dual wield like knives and swords as well or something just sounds like fun to me

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Cyberpunk 2077 on Switch 2: a cutting-edge game translates well to Nintendo's console hybrid

Few games among the Nintendo Switch 2 launch line-up can match Cyberpunk 2077 in putting the system through its paces. It's a staple of our PC benchmarking suite for good reason: the open world design is a solid stressor for any CPU, while its effects-heavy battles challenge GPU resources as well. This Switch 2 release has clearly been a big undertaking for developer CD Projekt Red too, who produced the port in-house with unique optimisations for Switch 2's ARM-based architecture. It's also remarkably the Ultimate Edition of the game, with both the core adventure and the more taxing Phantom Liberty expansion bundled in - an extra portion that proved too demanding to justify a last-gen console release, and was instead restricted to PS5 and Series X/S, and yet here it is running on Switch 2.

To cut to the chase, Switch 2 offers a truly viable way to enjoy Cyberpunk, either in a portable format or docked under a TV. However, CDPR has shot for the stars in its ambition to include Phantom Liberty as well, and it's here that Switch 2 hits some technical limits - with frame-rates struggling as we explore its newer Dog Town region. Still, that aside, there's a lot to admire in the game's engineering for Nintendo's new console overall, and how competitive it is in comparison with other consoles.

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repsahj11d ago

I am happy for CDPR. Their hard work paid off because the Switch 2 version are always in the top 5 Switch 2 launch game sales.

jznrpg10d ago

Not much launched with it besides ports so it should be expected I guess.

OMNlPOTENT10d ago

I mean.. what did the PS5 launch with? One exclusive in Demon's Souls?

repsahj9d ago

@Omnipotent
Not just PS5, Series X has zero launch games. XD

DivineHand12510d ago (Edited 10d ago )

This may be one of the weakest launch lineups Nintendo has ever had, with Mario Kart being the only first party game, but Cyberpunk 2077 will definitely give you tremendous value for your money.

One tip I can give people who have never played the game is to first read books from the cyberpunk subgenre. This will allow you to appreciate the story much better. If you find yourself asking which life path is the best to take at the start of the game, in this case it is Corpo, Streetkid, and Nomad. You likely don't know enough about the genre, and certain things will fly right over your head. While it is not mandatory, the game will be 10 times better if you read or listen to some books first.

Some books I have enjoyed in that genre are:
Cyber Dreams by Plum Parrot,
Stray Cat Strut by RavensDagger
Tower of Somnus by Cale Plamann
Mist Runner by Nicholas Searcy

If you can only read or listen to 1 book, then I recommend Cyber Dreams by Plum Parrot. It is the closest thing to Cyberpunk 2077.

anast10d ago

Or play the TTRPG which is was based on.

Profchaos10d ago

I'd say its stronger than the switch as Mario kart has a broader appeal than zelda.

It was also a better launch line-up than the gamecube and possibly wii u

DivineHand12510d ago

@Profchaos the WiiU likely had the worst of the bunch which is partly why the system failed.

The gamecube had smash bros melee that launched 2 months after the initial release and that is one of the best games to release on that console. I assume every gamecube owner would be happy with that game.

The switch had Breath of the Wild which is still considered one of the best games of all time. I remember playing through that game and unlocked every equipment, upgraded every equipment to the max, found all the dragons, defeated all the Lynels and completed all the shrines in that game before defeating Ganon at the end. It was a good time from start to finish and made up for the lack of other launch games.

I just think that if they had us waiting that long for the switch 2, they should have more than just 1 or 2 first party games ready within the launch window. If we had at least gotten a trailer for a new 3D mario I would be extremely happy. With the current switch 2 lineup, there is no draw to go out and get it immediately like a new console launch should make you feel. Right now the main appeal is to provide a quality of life update to play switch 1 games.

OMNlPOTENT10d ago

There is also a book directly related to the universe of Cyberpunk 2077, it's called "No Coincidence". I thought it was a pretty good read.

Kornholic9d ago

"One tip I can give people who have never played the game is to first read books from the cyberpunk subgenre."

If somebody gave me this advice before I started my first Cyberpunk 2077 playthrough, I wouldn't have even bought the game in the first place.

DivineHand1259d ago

True because I wouldn't have played it either. It's just that I read those books after playing the game and thinking back, a lot of the motivations of each character started making more sense.

I just wanted to through that tip out there to recommend someone try to understand the cyberpunk genre more before playing. They will get more out of the game.

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badz14910d ago

40 vs 60 fps is not something that I would even consider calling "competitive"

1nsomniac10d ago

Then you don’t know enough about the subject you’re trying to talk about..

badz14910d ago

hahaha...what? are you serious right now? the Switch 2 is not a PC where you can just change the graphical settings to get to 60fps...Unless CDPR released a patch to make it run at 60fps, that is.

As of right now, it's stuck at 40fps at best and that too with DLSS from quite a low base res already. so yeah...it's not competitive.

Profchaos10d ago

100% 40 isn't a arbitrary choice its a strategic choice because it opens up access to supporting technology on the console

Good-Smurf10d ago

DF are Nintendo's occasional bootlickers after that blatant Zelda games ad scandal.
Games like CP2077 are meant to be played on big console or powerful PC on a big screen.
Got to love how they're simp for full price purchase of 5-year-old game and still getting the worst version to play on.

1nsomniac10d ago

Wow you guys don’t let up for a second trying to blame DF for anything you can pick out the sky at any given moment. It’s embarrassing dude.

It’s always DF are bootlickers for Nintendo today, Microsoft yesterday, Sony last week. Make your mind up people… pick a side and stick to it. Sounds so stupid when you’re trying to make a point that some company is biased but that no one can make their mind up who the company is biased towards any given day of the week.

stoney10110d ago

Yep, the amount of hate they get is ridiculous. The funny thing is if you actually look at the comments on their early switch 2 videos people are slating them for not giving it enough praise and constantly comparing it to ps4.

ZycoFox10d ago

They had a "Sponsored by Nintendo" video not long ago, it literally says so at the start.

I trust them for showing frame rate analysis and they're decent for that, but their overall review for Nintendo is overrated, Mario Kart is the same game it has always been.

Really the only one that got close to topping DKR was MKDS.. So it's no wonder it's often ranked as the highest rated Mario Kart.

repsahj9d ago

It's obvious that you're not following DF. In the weeks leading up to the Switch 2's release, didn't you know that DF had so many articles downplaying the Switch 2 because they believed it was far from being more powerful than the PS4?

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anast10d ago

Phantom Liberty is a part of the game. If it can't run it. It can't run the game.

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Review: Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition Is The The Best Launch Title For Switch 2 – Entertainium

Now’s the best time to travel to Night City as Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition is the best pickup on the Switch 2 at the moment.

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