Ubisoft Isn’t The Best Alternative To EA Making Star Wars

As We Play writes: "When EA was first exclusively licensed to make Star Wars games by Disney, it didn't particularly feel like the best choice for fans. It felt more beneficial for the business side of things, as say what you might about EA, they are good at making money out of massive licenses. Star Wars, arguably the biggest franchise to ever exist, would seemingly fit well with their practices."

[locomorales]

I like Ubisoft. I think most hate they received is just part of that toxic culture of "being a gamer". To fit you need to dislike Ubi. But they are creative and inovative on the long run with an incomparable variety of genres and games, from Just Dance to Far Cry.

For me is a big step up Star Wars games from them. Of course I can pin-point one or two studios that should make something better if they stop doing what they are doing. Instead, I prefer a more constant flux of games that Ubi can provide.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

No most of the dislike is because of Ubisoft's mistakes and bad development choices, let's not downplay actual criticism by classifying it as "being a gamer" or whatever you're trying to say.

[RPGer]

Yeah it's like saying" Oooh you don't like the recent Wonder Woman movie because you "being movie watcher". DC made worst superhero movies, because they are bad at it. I am not even comparing to something like Spidey 2, Dark Knight or first IronMan, but comparing to Incredible Hulk, Age of Ultron and Captain Marvel.

But I get it some people would die to defend something like Cyperpunk, Final Fantasy XIII and Skyrim. So, its really understandable why would these people would defend flat games from EA and Ubisoft.

[yeahokwhatever]

RPGer,
Dark Knight is a DC movie. They make great movies, most of them are animated though.

[NeoGamer232]

Quality is a continuum from extremely bad to extremely good.

There are publishers/developers on the extremely bad side and then there are publishers/developers on the extremely good side.

I wouldn't put Ubisoft and their studios on the bad side at all, but I won't say they are extremely good either. To me they are somewhat good to very good at times. I am not sure why gamers are so hard on them. There are different types of music and movies. They appeal to different crowds through genres and they also appeal based on production values. Ubisoft isn't going to win GOTY for their games, but they shouldn't be fully ignored because of that. And frankly, their sales say they have a market because a lot of people are buying their games. Not every game is a Naughty Dog or Sony Santa Monica game. There is room out there for a lot of tier two type publishers/developers.

Maybe gamers should start playing some of the tier two games. You may find you like some of them.

[KyRo]

I agree with the Ubi bashing thing. They deserve it much less when there's publishers such as Bethesda existing.

I disagree about them being innovative though. They make the same open world style games for a vast majority of their games with the samey missions and structure. They change the setting, era and POV and call it a new game.

Ironically one of their most successful games this generation was R6 Seige and that didn't follow their tired formula.

[locomorales]

Most people think Ubisoft games are similar because they only play those that are similiar. In this generation they released Assassin's Creed, Just Dance, R6 Siege, Far Cry, Agos, Immortals Fenyx Rising, Hyper Scape, The Division, Brawhalla, For Honor, Trials, Anno, Steep, The Crew, Starlink, Mario + Rabbids, South Park, Trackmania and others.

How can I say that those games are similar? There's a lot more variety on Ubisoft than on Sony or Rockstar, for instance.

[Gaming4Life1981]

Bethesda makes great games just like ubisoft but every game will get criticism. Ubisoft is a great company so i would like to see what they do with star wars.

[jambola]

i wouldn't say thy deserve less bashing because of worse companies
just the worse companies deserve more

[northpaws]

@locomorales

But not even one of them are better than Sony top 5 games.

[Army_of_Darkness]

@locomorales- "How can I say that those games are similar? There's a lot more variety on Ubisoft than on Sony or Rockstar, for instance."

Sure a little bit more variety... But are those Ubisoft games better than what Sony and rockstar can put out? Hah! Not even close.

[monkey602]

Ubisoft are no longer creative! The started the X1/PS4 gen so strong. Rayman was at a series high, UbiArts were doing fantastic work, Far Cry was just after finding a new lease of life, Assassins were getting bigger and Rainbow 6 Siege was a fresh take on multiplayer

Then they shut down UbiArts, made what feels like a hundred assassins games, started to mould all their properties into the one bland genre and brought the same Rayman game out to every conceivable platform repeatedly instead of developing a new game.

I was a big Ubi fan up until a couple of years ago. They don't make trash but they certainly don't make great games either.

Annual filler is the best you can expect from them

[ZeroBlue2]

I think most of the hate they receive is because they essentially make the same game every time with a fresh coat of paint. The Ubisoft formula has become pretty stale IMO. Big and pretty open world game, with a new story and new characters. Tons of padding. Forgettable story and characters. Variations on done to death gameplay mechanics. Etc. But hey, at least the visuals are usually pretty good. Like EA, they tend to favor the "big budget, but generic" route.

[BattleCat]

Ubisoft games arent good. They hold the gaming industry back! Every game is almost the same by them. There is so much potential, but ubisoft never will use it.

[locomorales]

How Assassin's Creed, Just Dance, R6 Siege, Far Cry, Agos, Immortals Fenyx Rising, Hyper Scape, The Division, Brawhalla, For Honor, Trials, Anno, Steep, The Crew, Starlink, Mario + Rabbids, South Park, Trackmania and others are the same?

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

Ubisoft used to innovate and make great games. Now that the top manager has been fired for misconduct (we know that he essentially managed all of the games and turned down lots of interesting ones) we might actually see the company return to its old ways. Only time will tell.

[anast]

Hopefully this is true, because they make good looking games.

[ocelot07]

I don't like Ubisoft games these days as they all fell the same. Big open boring world's. Bland gameplay with not so interesting stories in my opinion.

Pretty much all you to do same thing. Go to tower hack into it or climb it to switch on and reveal a bit more of map.

[isarai]

Most dislike i see comes from the fact that they've been reskining the same games for like 10yrs now. And nearly every game they release is full of bugs, pointless filler collectibles, and mindless mission design, overall me and many others just find most of their games to be mediocre at best, a good mindless time sink, but no game changers. I think they're better than EA easily, but not enough yo get me excited over this deal. They got my curiosity, but im not getting any hopes up over this at all.

[XbladeTeddy]

"I think most hate they received is just part of that toxic culture of "being a gamer". To fit you need to dislike Ubi."

You sound like an idiot.

[locomorales]

Sorry. I tryed to sound like a gamer.

[Jin_Sakai]

With Star Wars now in the hands of Ubisoft we’ll have to climb countless towers to see the galaxy.

[anast]

I dislike UBI because they live service single player games. They try to force you to buy things like "time savers", this cheapens their beautiful games and turns them into a cheap night out.

[jambola]

"creative and innovatibe" at releaing 25 assassins creed games that kinda work and insulting microtransactions
oop, sorry "time savers"

[neutralgamer1992]

locomorales

I don't like them because they fill the game world map with useless icon and fetch quests and they are the only ones who have successfully without any backlash added micro transactions/do boosters to single player games

[northpaws]

Far Cry, Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed... same game with different skin...

Immortals Fenyx Rising is something different, but it exists because of Breath of the Wild...

They do make some good games here and there, but they are far from innovative...

[TheRealTedCruz]

They're disliked because they basically use the same template for all of their major titles.

They're disliked because people now are aware of how toxic their company actually is in how they treat their employees, vs the guys topping it.

[enkiduxiv]

I guess "being a gamer" yourself, you feel qualified to belittle everyone else who doesn't share your own opinion. Good to see you fit right in with the rest of us then despite your pedestrian tastes. Ubisoft is better than EA, but not by much. Their games are just bland. They use the same open world sand box mechanics in every title. The
most recent games have boring plots that seem like they were thrown together by a group of managers at a table.

Basically the perfect company for the Star Wars franchise.

[Dragonscale]

Its ubisoft who are toxic, the worse publisher full stop fgs. Even worse than ea tbh.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

Well Ubisoft is better than EA in terms of quality, but they do have their problems.

[RgR]

Their games are super generic and streamlined.

I've liked some of their games but very few. They milk the crap out of their ip with endless grind and repetition.

There is not toxic gamer mentality of hatred towards ubisoft. No such thing.

[Knightofelemia]

Ubisoft may have some buggy games I like Ubisoft as a studio but a new studio working on a Star Wars game is like a new breath of fresh air. Plus I see this as a way to show EA the middle finger so in away I am laughing at this. I am not a big Star Wars fan by any means but I would check out this new Star Wars game. And if this game does well I hope Mickey Mouse pulls the Star Wars license away from EA and then I would have an even bigger laugh at EA.

[Majin-vegeta]

Apparently theres various devs making Star Wars games.Rumor has it theres even a Dynasty warriors themed Star wars gane in the works

[phoenixwing]

not going to lie the dynasty warriors version of star wars could work real well. All they would have to do is make sure that the slicing of the light saber was realistic as far as people coming apart and people would instantly buy it. Oh and replace the magic with force powers. it's pretty simple to make really.

[Vits]

Yeap they really aren't the best. And is arguable that EA actually became sort of trustworth after fixing the mess of Battlefront 2 and the great Fallen Order/Rogue Squadron. Meanwhile with Ubisoft we are likely going to get a Assassin's Creed themed Star Wars. With "comestic" MTX and pay to skip stuff.

For PC players is a particular sour deal. Since it's also going to be available only on EGS and Uplay. With likely bad optimization.

[Mikeyy]

They did not "fix" battlefront 2. The game was abandoned in an incomplete state same as battlefield 5. They abandoned both games as soon as they realized people weren't buying the lootboxes and they didn't want to make good on the live service promise. They tried for a few months before content slowed to a trickle.

This is coming from someone who used to be a huge fan of dice.

[Vits]

You can argue that they could have done more. But they still fixed basically all the mess they originally did with the monetization and they did support the game for about 2 years with new content. So in my books that is perfectly acceptable performance.

[PersonX]

Ubisoft is the perfect developer for Star Wars. They have mastered the open world formula, however i would like to seem somthing more unic to the Star Wars game.

[jambola]

thinks ubisoft is good
thinks "unique" has a c in it
sounds right

[2moda5gamer]

I just thought PersonX wanted to see Star Wars games with more Unics' (Eunuch) in them? /s

[northpaws]

They created the open world formula many years ago, and then drained all souls from it over the years, now is just same game with different themes.

And for some reasons, their characters are very hard to feel related to, very soulless and inconsistent.

[masterfox]

Definitely agree.

[Bruh]

Star Wars open world game? So unlocking watch towers and then button mashing combat? loll no thanks

[TheColbertinator]

Of course not but EA has proven they are incapable of handling the franchise to better potential.

Personally I'd like to see Platinum handle a quick speed action Jedi game but we'll see what Lucasfilm decides.

[RedDeadLB]

AFAIK, they finally hit their stride with Jedi Fallen Order and Squadrons. Dunno what's going to happen to that now. Ubisoft may get the benefit of the doubt at this stage, but I honestly haven't had any fun with Ubisoft games since when R6 Siege was fresh, and that didn't last all that long in my case.

[CorndogBurglar]

That isn't true. Fallen Order and Squadrons shows that EA actually CAN handle Star Wars very well. But I'm convinced those games only happened because Disney made them make games that weren't going to piss off the fanbase with pay to win microtransactions. They haven't made a bad Star Wars game since Battlefront 2.

Having said all that, Star Wars could be handled better overall. But EA made huge strides with those 2 games.

[Exthun]

Agree, the new Ghost Recon mess.

[Bathyj]

how will they make Star wars feel bland and samey like all their other games?
Assassin's Creed Coruscant incoming

[DragonWarrior19]

Ubisoft is a fine choice, they make pretty good games.

[Nodoze]

They are a HELL of alot better than EA. EA sat on this license for years and released 2 crap titles. Respawn helped to try to redeem them, and the Rogue Squadron game was good as well....but too little too late.

I do want a respawn sequel, but would LOVE an Ubisoft open world title.

[CrimsonWing69]

It really isn't. What does Ubisoft do that EA doesn't?

Also, with EA losing the license are we no longer getting anymore entries into the Fallen Order game?

Say what you will about EA but that game was excellent!

[Christopher]

I say give them a chance to make something that they are forced to meet certain storytelling requirements and have an outside party making final say. If it fails, it's certain that there are other games being made in tandem. But, I'd hate to say that one of the major developers of very successful games couldn't make a good Star Wars game. Just my $0.02.

[mkis007]

Im hoping a sony studio gets tapped for their work on spider man. Sony studios were built to make star wars games.

[Gamist2dot0]

A Star Wars Far Cry style game. Worth a try.

[Profchaos]

I like ubi a hell of a lot more than I like ea at bare minimum their games don't look like they are coated in a plastic shine or all look identical because of frostbite engine.

They are also in the business of mtx think far cry new dawn but I hope they learnt a lesson there but I've never felt roadblocked by it in any of their games except new dawn they had some titles that I consider my favourite from last generation like watchdogs 2 in saying that they are not perfect they don't really have good writing anymore ghost recon breakpoint, watchdogs legion all could be written better by a toddler.

But on the flipside EA.os just lootboxes.front and centre and maybe the rest of the game will come later look at anthem they have worse writing overall and the only good games that have come from them this generation are from respawn star wars squadrons started as a guy playing around in an engine for a game that they could play on their lunch breaks. Apex if your into that was a side project at respawn before they were acquired. Their mainline games have been horrible EA sports games like Fifa are on the decline and have fans complaining same with Madden, NBA Live is in the trash, UFC is now lootbox City, need for speed didn't have a good entry at his gen and hasn't since the PS2 era, battlefield v chewed out its own fans for weird gameplay decisions and released as a tech demo for rtx nothing more was quickly forgotten about and star wars battlefront well we all know what happened with that pay to win game.

EA earned the worst company.in America award so many times yet they never learnt from it

[neomahi]

Maybe, but it's a start on a new direction pushing competition. We've seen what happens to EA when there's no competition. Sports titles are pathetic every year with incremental upgrades because nobody can challenge then, or won't without being officially licensed. 2K lost out when EA bought exclusive NFL rights, maybe the same with NHL. 2K however is developing excellent basketball games and Sony with baseball, but EA tries to get away with as little as possible. Minimal cost for maximum profit. This is good because it's started getting a brand out there to improve and innovate. I think it was smart. The NHL and NFL need to do the same, but neither of them take the gaming industry seriously, it's just some extra income because they can, but they could be making a lot more

[Unknown_Gamer5794]

Yeah, Ubisoft is another big company that is no stranger to a lot of the things EA has been criticized for. I suppose we should wait and see what they do with the IP, but I'm not exactly expecting them to refrain from exploiting the consumer in their own way.

[stupidusername]

Ubisoft games are like McDonalds to me. It's good for a bit, but then you get sick of it, until you're not, and then you buy it again. I don't mind a McDonalds Star Wars game, but I do hope we get a gourmet Star Wars game made by a really great developer, like Naughty Dog, Rockstar games or Santa Monica.

[B68W]

Good analogy. Approved. Though perhaps not Naughty Dog as a developer, I prefer to limit the number of angry lesbians in Star Wars if possible. /s

[Circuitburnout]

Ubisoft > EA. Not even a contest. Codemasters being bought by EA instead of 2K is a huge detriment to the industry and people who love driving games

[Circuitburnout]

wow the fanboyism and just nonsensical bs in these comments are truly telling. Put your keyboards away and go play games instead of arguing over which company you like better. Like, my god people.

[Circuitburnout]

haters gonna hate

[someone72]

I dont really get the hate for ubi.

1. Watch dogs legion = great
2. AC Valhalla = best in series
3. Fenyx Rising = great
4. Far Cry 3-5 = great
5. The Division 2 = great
6. Ghost Recon Wildlands = great
7. Rainbow 6 Seige = I dont like it, but its very well received.

And the list goes on and on.

Ubi makes very good games. And they are typically well polished at launch. (Aside from seige, every game on the list above launched in great shape)

In fact, the only complaints I have on them over the past 10 years are 1. That the hd camera on the ps5 isn't supported for just dance, and 2. That we haven’t had a new rayman in a bit.

Im excited about a starwars game. (The last one from ea was amazing, so the ip has a lot to live up to)

[Rebel_Scum]

If the protagonist is a Jawa this might work.

Ti ni

[DeadlyFire]

Ubisoft is only one of many people with game deals under the new brand. I expect at least 3 others.

[curtain_swoosh]

true, but who is at this point haha.

[addictedtochaos]

Is Ubisoft getting exclusivity, or will anyone be able to make a Star Wars game?

[philm87]

I think Ubisoft are in top form at the moment and know what people want more based on recent offerings. Looking forward to it!

[andron]

Oh give them a chance, they'll definitely give ea a run for their money.

[Father__Merrin]

Wouldn't mind an open world like AC creed style star wars game