NVIDIA Unveils GeForce RTX 30 Max-Q & Max-P Mobility GPUs, Much Faster Than PS5

NVIDIA has unveiled its next-generation GeForce RTX 30 Mobility GPU lineup which includes the GeForce RTX 3080, RTX 3070 & RTX 3060.

[masterfox]

Who cares, still those laptops or PC gaming rigs wont have the best games (Playstation exclusives). ;)

[Neonridr]

this is assuming Sony doesn't start releasing some of their games on PC of course.

[affrogamer]

the starting price of the 3080 series is 4x that of the PS5 so what's the point of them boasting about it's power advantage over the PS5?

[JackBNimble]

It's a $2000 laptop not a $2000 GPU.

Either way , I'm ok with the ps5.

[Neonridr]

@affrogamer - the 3080 is double the price of a PS5, not 4x.
@ZeroBlue2 - a 3060 is $329 USD. Just as reference.

[CaptainHenry916]

You beat me to it

[ocelot07]

Been hearing this for like 2 years now. Still waiting for Bloodborne, god of war, last of us, Spiderman ect to arrive on pc.

So far there has been heavy rain (10+ year old), Beyond Two Souls (7+ years old). Detroit ( 2 years old) and Horizon (3 years old).

What next? Knack?

[Neonridr]

@ocelot07 - we know that their track record hasn't been great with releasing their exclusive offerings on PC, but that doesn't mean it can't change at any point.

[sinspirit]

@Neonridr

"@ocelot07 - we know that their track record hasn't been great with releasing their exclusive offerings on PC, but that doesn't mean it can't change at any point."

We know you want to bring up useless information to make believe that the positives of one console aren't that great because of nonexistant scenarios. But, that doesn't mean you have any valid point or reason to keep perpetuating the same statements.

[Neonridr]

@sinspirit - I own a PS5 and PC. If I had the options to play some Sony games on my PC I wouldn't necessarily say no. But that's because I have a 3080 in my computer.

[sinspirit]

@Neonridr

I don't think you understand. This topic keeps getting brought up as if it will be a thing.

The way you word your comment leans towards assuming that they will do this. Horizon is the only example you have. Death Stranding was developed by a third party that negotiated a PC release from the start.

Yeah, I'd get em on PC as well if I could. Just don't know why this is being brought up.

[Neonridr]

@sinspirit - oh I agree, I don't expect anything to come to PC until well beyond it's shelf date. MS is in a different position since they have opted to focus on both console and PC gamers.

[Army_of_Darkness]

@neonridr

Oh just double the price of a ps5? Psssh... That's nothing then 🙄.. Let's also add the price of a pc to the equation... Oh my... Now I see why it's a little faster than the ps5....

I'll stick with the ps5, thanks.

[RazzerRedux]

"Who cares"

Those game on the go probably care quite a bit.

[crazyCoconuts]

And to that end, this is my next guilty pleasure: https://link.indiegogo.com/...

[RazzerRedux]

"Those who game on the go, and have no budget ceiling, care quite a bit. Fixed it for ya."

No idea what you think you fixed. A budget is needed no matter what gaming device you purchase. If you need a laptop then that's going to cost a good bit of money either way so upgrading to a gaming laptop probably isn't as big a deal as you think.

"People who buy flagship GPUs are already a tiny fraction of the overall GPU market, that number becomes smaller yet when limited to laptop GPUs."

The vast majority of console gamers are on base PS4 and Xbox One. So what is your point?

"Ferrari unveils latest model, much faster than Toyota Camry."

Sony unveils PS5, much faster than PS4.

"The premise is stupid."

[Matpan]

@Zero Blue..
People who buy flagship GPUs are already a tiny fraction of the overall GPU market, that number becomes smaller yet when limited to laptop GPUs.
"Ferrari unveils latest model, much faster than Toyota Camry."
The premise is stupid.

You DO realize that that is the test ground for the technology that will trickle down to the next generation of consoles, right?
Car industry works in a very similar fashion... Halo products and High End cars offer features that 5-10 years down the line become available to the general consumer market.
They come at a premium cost because:
A) they are expensive to manufacture, as all new technologies tend to be
B) they are usually produced in lower numbers (another factor to rise manufacturing costs)

If you have the disposable money for it, what is wrong in enjoying the latest and shiniest?

Moreover, a Laptop, specially a high end gaming one offers quite a bunch of productivity bonuses for people working in video / graphics and may be tempting for many other reasons other than simply gaming. A great gaming rig / laptop will, more often than not, be an excellent computer to do 3D with.

So it's not just that the New Ferrari is just faster than the Camry... it also doubles as a boat, a plane...

[anubusgold]

@masterfox Pc players have plenty of games we dont need your games you are full of yourself. Between epic games store , steam, battlenet, Uplay, greenman gaming, GOG and other online stores we have all the games we need and we dont have to pay for online play. Plus mods like the Skrim mods have new story content that is hours long like a whole new game we dont need your crap. . Plus the countless MMOS that dont appear on console.

[Jerlemar]

"Who cares, still those laptops or PC gaming rigs wont have the best games (Playstation exclusives). ;)"

The last part of that sentence was much dumber than the first.

[Darthpaul84]

Yeah right Sony is gonna put everything on pc

[Matpan]

Well I guess if you care to call the yearly open world-ish story driven third person action adventure title the best games... And I love my PS4, will get a PS5 and I am super excited for it. But man... PC gaming has SOOOO MUCH to offer. There are tons of games out there that are a BLAST to play that you can only play on a PC. PC still have genres consoles don't even touch, and is still the most prolific platform by a good margin of all out there. Sure, console gaming has that really easy access allure that is great to have. Pop a disc, grab a controller, enjoy. And there are AMAZING games for them too. The BEST? I don't know, depends on who you ask and regarding what. eSports is almost completely a PC business, and the PC online gaming community will dwarf any console numbers on a slow day... Shooters are way more competitive... and when games are multiplatform and you got the PC to run them properly, the difference can be quite noticeable.

[CDbiggen]

I believe this is what they call a "cope".

[devsmith101]

When one owns a PC and every console, one doesn’t have adhere to such single minded peasant thinking.

That said, those of us who play on multiple platforms do care :)

[UncertainCategory]

the GeForce 3080 laptops start at $1999. Really cool looking devices, but stating 'much faster than PS5' as if it's some kind of amazing achievement is such a ridiculous click bait statement.

Get this folks. The $2000-$3000 devices are more powerful than a $400 device. This is truly a remarkable feat.

[waverider]

Agree. The title... just think of a PS5 with tech that cost 2000 and not 399....

[cartoonx1]

laptops does not just do gaming only tho. its a portable device. also its 1k$ not 2k+.
While consoles def much better for exclusives, you cant just compare the price. PC does way more thn consoles.

[UncertainCategory]

Alright lets play this game.

You can get a premium productivity laptop like the Surface Laptop 3 for $799-$1299 depending on your configuration. The i7 model being the $1299. That would do homework, stream, develop, do homework, voice chat.. all the 'way more' category you just alluded too.

These gaming laptops start at $2000 and go far north of $3000 depending on configuration. So you're paying up to $1,200-$2,200 on top of the cost of a Surface for the ability to play games on a laptop.

It would be more affordable to get a Surface Laptop 3 AND a Xbox Series X or PS5, than to get one of these.

So yeah. You can compare the price. Nvidia is fantastic, but PC gaming is an incredibly expensive hobby, full stop.

[CptDville]

So you just agreed that this is a clickbait as comparison makes no sense.

[UncertainCategory]

Oh I was only looking at the 3080, $1000 for the 3060 is not a bad deal at all. fair game I concede.

[CaptainHenry916]

Actually I think the GeForce 3070 laptop is more powerful than the next-generation consoles. Just saying the 3070 might be a good deal for laptop gamers

[seanpitt23]

The chips in the laptops are gimped versions of the desktop, I don’t think so they have way less cuda cores the next gen consoles are to new to know what they are capable of... let’s just wait and find out.

Look how big the ps5 is so it doesn’t overheat and then you look at the laptops these chips have been gimped so that they don’t overheat

Then console optimisation is so much better than pc space you would need a lot more power for the same results

[mcz]

It is rumored that these mobile 30 series cards aren't anywhere close in performance to the desktop 30 series. I would wait third party reviews before making any purchase.

[FreeFallFrenzy]

Most definitely. Even the Max-P model will probably only output 80% max of the same power, where the Max-Q variant is probably only 60% due to its power requirements. to make the laptop thinner. Laptops are a pain to do research on to find the one that works best due to this. And most retailers are vague on which one is in which laptop.

[SprigganN4G]

i'll take a $1200 Ryzen with RTX 3070 Mobile and run all this generation games with DLSS on 1440P. Building a new desktop PC right now is stupidly expensive.

[Notellin]

It will have to be about 2.5-3x faster to beat the optimization on consoles.

Simple fact of economics.

[Kados]

That has been debunked repeatedly. Console optimization hasn't really meant much since the PS3. A console with identical hardware may get 10-15% higher framerates at best. A 3060ti and Ryzen 5 2600x provide roughly the same performance as the PS5, and that is without even using DLSS. Once DX12 Ultimate and Nvidias version of resizable bar come out, the 3060ti / 2600x build will likely destroy the PS5.

[Espangerish]

My experience (as a 2080ti and PS4 pro owner) is that optimisation can a long way to reducing the impact of the raw power gap but only if it’s done really well. When I compare the graphics between poor performing pro games such as watchdogs 2 for example (pc and pro both hooked up to the same big tv) the power difference is very clear. But ps exclusives (TLOU2, Days Gone, Tsushima) where devs have maximised those games on the hardware match the visual impressiveness of the best I’ve seen my PC produce with ‘ultra’ settings mode.

I only wish we could get the level of care attention put into maximising pc hardware that ps hardware gets...the result would no doubt be amazing. As it is I often feel a lot of my pc power is wasted whereas every bit of the Pro is used.

[NoLifeLoser]

3060 ti alone is 400 at least (usually goes for 450+). You’ll also need ram case mobo psu SSD cpu etc (assuming you’re building from scratch of course) . I love both my gaming rig and ps5 but value wise for gaming they’re not even close

[darksky]

You do realize that the PS4/Xbox One are using a Jaguar cpu which is probably only around 1/4 the performance of the Ryzen cpu in the PS5/XSX. Even then the PS4 produced some of the most amazing games around like GOW and Last of Us series. Now imagine what will happen when devs really use all the power of the PS5/XSX cpu which is around 4x faster.

[Tetsdah]

30% more being much faster gaming performance is a bit of an over statement. Definitely faster though. But immediately, what I find so hilarious about this comment and I noticed this with channels like Gamer Nexus and even Digital Foundry to an extent, why aren't they comparing performance with XsX? That was supposed to be the titan of performance between the two consoles. I noticed this when DF did a comparison for ACV on ps5 vs pc, but didn't do one for xsx vs pc.

Should I take them conceding the performance crown to PS5?

But im impressed thoroughly with ps5 price to performance. And really $400 with a slew of games unavailable on PC.

[Zhipp]

ACV performs better on ps5, which they already started in their initial comparison. I don't see anything attached about them picking that version to compare to PC.

[Tetsdah]

https://youtu.be/m9LgfTr517...

This is comparison video for ps5 vs pc for ACV. They compared settings that ps5 were essentially toggled which derived from PC and made their estimation.

But it was odd to me that XSX wasn't the first choice since it is claimed to be the stronger between the consoles. Or at least do one for Series X as well.

[Flewid638]

Show me the games.

[Ryushaa]

mUcH FAsTer ThAn tHE pS5. Ur dur!!! Who cares, specially about a laptop GPU?

[KingBeed]

What people don't understand though is the concept of optimization. People seeing better stats for a computer than a Playstation or Xbox often leave this concept out. Its a lot easier to get full optimization of the hardware when you're developing software for that specific hardware, rather than for a broad range of hardware. There's a reason a lot of exclusive titles are some of the best looking games out there (GOW, LOU2).

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Was hoping to see the rumored 3070 Super, oh well. Of course it's faster, all the 30 series GPUs are :D You can even see on Gamers Nexus: PlayStation 5 120FPS Mode vs. PC 120FPS: Benchmarks https://www.youtube.com/wat... In the notes hes comparing the performance to a gtx 1060, 1070, 1080 with ray tracing off. While I do not believe that, I'm sure the PS5 is more on par with a higher GPU.

[Einhander1971]

For one I don't care, and secondly PS5 will sell shit loads and play amazing exclusives. Oh and just bought my self a Series S, to go next to my ps5 happy next gen gaming awaits:)

[Giblet_Head]

Sounds like you care a lot, otherwise you wouldn't try so hard to let others know how much you supposedly don't.
Insecurity is an unbecoming quality, remember that next time.

[ARESWARLORD]

The only reason I own a PS5 is for exclusives if Sony started releasing the games on PC I would gladly buy them there.

For everybody saying who cares my answer is you should a gaming PC is something that's worth saving for and planning for to get the best possible experience on games you love

[QuePasa87]

Aaaaaaand they're outdated (exaggeration I know). Gaming laptops seem to just make sense if you absolutely must be mobile or you have lots of disposable income.

[frostypants]

Gaming on a laptop...lame.

[JimBeans]

For 5 times the price?

[kryteris]

maybe close. these mobile chipsets may have similar names but always gutted.

[SmokinAces]

And yet I'd still prefer the PS5, good effort though.

[hanuman2]

The article claims that the rtx3060 laptop will outperform PS5, but looking at the specs of both GPU's I highly doubt that.

[Lulz_Boat]

still not AAA quality games to play.

[Shiore2u]

Ya, that don't mean much these days.

[THEzRude]

cool. So where's the better AMD laptops ?

[Benficaman]

why not "....much Faster than Xbox séries x." maybe because that title wouldnt give the same Number of cliks.

[nickanasty206]

Definitely a pointless article. Consoles will never compete on an even playing ground with PC's. Consoles are made for the masses and priced for the masses, most of whom don't even care about the power as long as they have good games. Playstation has the exclusive games that are incredibly well optimized for the platform that PC likely won't be getting ever if any time soon. So sure the PC is leagues more powerful, but that comes with a cost and with games that aren't as polished as Sony exclusives. As an owner of a nice gaming PC, i can attest to games even on my PS4 like TLOU2 and Uncharted, that even with lower amounts of power, the games somehow look better than most third party PC games with with less than half of the available power. Definitely a reason to have a Playstation for exclusives, and the PC for everything else.

[Duke19]

Everybody in here shitting on it because it was compared to their precious PS5s - I personally just think its impressive that you can get this level of performance from a thin laptop nowadays.

[quodlike]

Assuming we ever find to buy a this generation Graphic card we can say we got a better pc than PS5 untill then gl hf Nvdia PS5/XBSX is above good enough

[Ju]

While that's nice, I don't understand NVidias portfolio. Now the RTX3060 is 12GB, but the 3070 is 8 and the 3080 is 10. So, with the 3060 now probably becoming very popular one can expect Devs to leverage more memory in 1-2 years; Also because consoles have more mem. Will they upgrade the 3070 and 3080 as well? I wouldn't mind them adjusting the higher end models. You can hardly buy any of those right now anyway.

[Skuletor]

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