Star Citizen's crowdfunding campaign has been unstoppable pretty much since the beginning, and 2020 was no exception.
Did anyone else gag?
Does anyone still.care?, why are these stories not flagged as spam ? So many of them tell us how much money they've extorted from poor individuals. This is just a basic copy and paste article with the number increased.
Nahh i enjoyed the 2 years rust was in beta more than the retail version they changed the whole map and best resource gathering areas and made all my beta play worthless i quit the game when it actually came out.
^^^ There is no retail version or complete version for that matter.
@xTonyMontana There is a final release version you know what i mean you dick.
Why? Because a large community of gamers are enjoying a game and are willing to fund its continued development? It is their money. Why do you care? @Redlife2g Explain this scam? People are playing the game knowing the game development is ongoing. How are they being scammed?
Because it's a scam and your "community" is setting the precident for this nonsense to happen again. 10 years of development with no end in sight...
All these downvotes from people who cannot explain the "scam". Brilliant.
Really think it's just you that rushes to the defence of this game, ok we get it, they took you for a ride and you paid lots into it and now you just can't bring yourself to admit the obvious but hey ho. I'm sure you'll be on every single far critezen post
@Orbilator Hilarious that you are making this about me and yet you still cannot explain the "scam". I could pass judgement on your spending on games as well. Couldn't I? Difference is I don't care what your choices are. No idea why you are obsessed with mine. Perhaps you should get over yourself.
People believe It's a ponzi scam. There were reports from some guy who was hired to work on it in 2013 and he said money was wasted and went into marketing instead of the game. It has been in development for so long and will never be finished because people keep funding them. They see how lucrative it is even when it's still in beta so they keep adding features to get the people who have sunk money into it excited and to attract more people with the marketing hype of it having raised so much money. More money will come in and they will promise more stuff to string you along and it will continue until people get fed up. By this time they would have gotten rich and will just release a game that is so outdated and say sorry we were in over are heads and walk away with the money and ignore the backlash. You can check this article for the report. https://www.denofgeek.com/g...
It's very simple why people hate on those that support this title, and that's because you're encouraging this type of monetization strategy that makes most throw up in their mouth. You sound like one of the many that didn't mind people buying loot-boxes in Overwatch when the concept was new only for them to now infest many titles. the game has been in development for nearly a decade with one of the largest budgets in history, all given by the people, and there's no release date in sight. There are DLC ships that costs hundreds, and even thousands of dollars. As far as people calling 'scam'. They call it a scam because most believe this title's development is intentionally being dragged out in order to milk more money from people. If they'd released this game 5 years ago, there's no way it would've achieved this level of financial success on sales alone. Popularity would've dried up, and they'd need to start a new project. I don't care what your opinions are on this game, single pieces of DLC costing hundreds of dollars IS bad for the industry and should no be supported. Developers also happily taking people's money for nearly 10 years and still can't give a firm release date is also bad for the industry, and should not be supported. The day when all of the coolest / best things a game has to offer are locked behind price tags that exceed the base game's cost? That's the day I give up on this hobby, or just pirate the s**t out of everything with absolutely no remorse.
@FPSFox: And that's how you prove beyond reasonable doubt that you don't know what you're talking about. Nothing is locked behind anything. Ships aren't DLC you need to pay for to have. They can all be purchased with credits you earn in-game simply by playing. All you need is a starter that costs as much as any game. Once you got that, you have access to everything.
@Redlife2g paying for online play forever is a scam. There is no reason to pay to play online even a toaster can get online with no special help. Microsoft and sony put a coin slot on a toilet is what they did they are full of crap.
@Abriael: "They can all be purchased with credits you earn in-game simply by playing. All you need is a starter that costs as much as any game." And that's a head scratcher. If there's enough game to earn in-game credits, if there's a starter that costs as much as any game, how isn't it in some form of releasable state? Why do most who are outside mostly see what amounts to ads and ship porn rather than in game multiplayer events? Where are the "life as a smuggler" lets plays?
@Bobertt A ponzi scheme promises a return on investment in an enterprise that actually doesn't exist. How is that even relevant to a video game where people are actually playing the game they are paying for? Remember, SC only requires a one time payment of $45 and they are getting more content that most AAA games that cost $60. @Godmars290 "Why do most who are outside mostly see what amounts to ads and ship porn rather than in game multiplayer events? Where are the "life as a smuggler" lets plays?" Because they are not even bothering to look. https://www.youtube.com/res... https://www.youtube.com/wat... https://www.youtube.com/wat... https://www.youtube.com/wat...
@razzerredux We'll stop trying to tell us the reasons it's ok to rob people legally. It's you that spends days in here trying to justify every negative comment, and every single comment on multiple threads etc etc Only one person that needs to get over themselves and it ain't me.......
@Orbilator blah blah blah.....you just got even more boring somehow by repeating the same shit over and over again. Continuing to make it about me because you damn sure cannot speak intelligently about SC. Fine. Be ignorant and enjoy your mob.
"You just repeat what you see others post, don't you?" Ironic coming from the guy who keeps repeating whatever Abriael says. You've never had an original thought in your life, I'm betting. You just go with the crowd every time, don't you? How sad.
Hilarious and incredibly ironic that you just copied my words directly while we are talking about copying from others. And you are wrong regardless. I was the first to respond to SC detractors in this article. I didn't have to wait on Abriael for anything. And some of our points are similar as we obviously agree on the subject, but hardly a copy and paste of a single concrete point. No....that is all you and only you. I mean....that was blatant theft. You've still yet to make a salient point on your own. Just go back to screaming "scam citizen" over and over again and try not to bogart intellect from others, no matter how silly it is.
@razzerredux Not sure where you got your definition of a Ponzi scheme, but it’s wrong. The enterprise can actually exist, and be a Ponzi scheme...just watch a few episodes of American Greed :-/ Also as a reference look up Bernie Madoff
Point is you do the same thing so stop your finger pointing. Ok, Scam Citizen, Scam Citizen, Scam Citizen. I'll let you know when you've commented with something intellectual enough worth bogarting bud. No offensive but when it comes to this perpetual alpha test disguised as a "game" I wont hold my breath.
Not surprise if this is due to Mark being popular lately
@ RazzerRedux I'm guessing until star citizen and Squadron 42 receive console ports they will continue to be ignored and be viewed as scams. much like cyberpunk and black desert online, the console community understood very little of these titles roadblocks. not until their platforms were inducted into their communities. then from the inside they can see what's going on. star citizen in particular is a online game which also offers a subscription - "Monthly subscriptions are also available for those who want to enjoy a deeper level of insight into the development process and receive additional goodies and discounts." https://twinfinite.net/2021... star citizen and Squadron 42 are two separate projects. backers of Squadron 42 are pushing for a completed game of quality and have been intentionally slowing the project down for "perfection". this must be made clear, the community intentionally wants the project to slowly progress to reach quality. the community has been very verbal about it. since the last few weeks. if you are a part of their community.
what a joke. stop funding this you morons
Abriael has to keep posting this spam. He is helping fund this 'game' so he has to try to get his moneys worth by spamming these articles. Notice how he never posts updates for other crowdfunding games only this one.
Oops. https://n4g.com/news/236818... Just an example among many. Try again? Just because you're salty that this game you obviously and irrationally hate has a large community that supports it (and knows about it much better than you do), it doesn't mean a *gaming* site should not write about a *game*'s progress. Without quotation marks, mind you, because anyone who has tried it knows that this is more a proper game already than many that are way past their release.
idk who that is dude
Its not surprising that people defending it sound very much like people who defend cults, remember Scientologists have invested huge sums of money into that as well so the behavior is not unique its a mindset that has been instilled and groomed by the individual or individuals who created the cult or in Scam Citizens case the financial scam. Chris Roberts day of reckoning will come when the many law suits begin.
@SmokinAces: funny that you'd say that, because most people who bash star citizen have never tried it for a second, have never been interested in it, or simply don't have a platform to run it (and they're envious of any game they can't have, which appears to be the norm in console-centric circles). People who defend it, usually have played it or play it regularly, so they know quite a lot better what it offers. - People who bash star citizen: Usually never played it. Actually know nothing about it. Bash it irrationally out of preconceptions and hearsay, or in the best-case scenario have tried it years ago and their experience is completely out of date. - People who defend it: Play it. Have fun with it. Know full well what it offers and are up to date in what progress it has made. Now, who is the cult? 😂
"Its not surprising that people defending it sound very much like people who defend cults, remember Scientologists..." Did you just seriously take that line from dfooster? "Most people who have donated are in so deep financially they have convinced themselves its legitimate. A bit like scientology." You just repeat what you see others post, don't you? You've never had an original thought in your life, I'm betting. You just go with the crowd every time, don't you? How sad.
I don't get why this game is getting so much funding. It's crazy to me.
too many gullible idiots on the pc side of gaming
It's pretty easy, actually. No other game offers the same things (Elite Dangerous does to an extent, but it doesn't fill the same niche) and they're things a lot of people want. It also appeals to many that are into flight simulators, who have been used for decades to pay $20 for a single airport or up to $100+ for an aircraft, so they don't balk as much at the idea as the average gamer. For many, it's more a full-fledged hobby than a single game, and people are willing to spend a lot for their hobbies.
well at least you can play those other games
@cerpintaxt44: those who have pledged can play Star Citizen as well. It's not complete, but it's certainly very playable. For example, I can objectively do more things in Star Citizen than I can in Microsoft Flight Simulator. Not saying that MSFS is bad. I love it, but if you compare, Star Citizen is certainly more of a game even with its current feature set.
"No other game offers the same things" Not so much a "game" as much as a perpetual alpha test for those who spend absorbent amounts of money. I have to hand to Chris Roberts he figured out a way to use people to alpha test his game forever and pay him to do it, he's a genius.
Seriously how?? I am legit serious-If you have given money to this game I would love to know why? Do you play this regularly? Is it fun, interesting, you regret it? I’m trying to understand.
Abriael wrote an article about this. https://twinfinite.net/2020... And there are plenty of youtube videos showing game play. https://www.youtube.com/res...
Thanks, I saw. But I was hoping to get a perspective from people here.
Most people who have donated are in so deep financially they have convinced themselves its legitimate. A bit like scientology.
I think so too. It's shameful to accept that you're wrong.
Richest gaming studio that has yet to release a game. Now that is impressive.
More money wasted on a game that will never get a full public release. The biggest scam of this decade.
Part of the problem seems to be that when Roberts and his people talk of the game, they talk of the "completed" game with all promised features as more promises are made. Not a released game with basic working features that will then be improved over time. People coming here to defend it and Roberts, much of the argument would be made moot if only the basic game was released. The Squadron side game.
I think those are legit criticisms. Better than the hyperbolic "it is a scam" line that is regurgitated over and over. And you see many of those criticisms coming from the community itself. But I am doubtful that anything will change the minds of some of the detractors who seem to just be picking up pitchforks and joining the SC hate mob.
Is that not a scam? Going by the definition of scam "a dishonest scheme" would fall into that bracket, I wouldn't call that hyperbole.
No, that is not a scam. That is called "scope creep". It happens all the time in all forms of development. Perhaps you could call it a scam if there nothing for those who have contributed to actually play, but there is and has been for a while as all those features are being put into the game.
Funny cause it now looks all outdated
Lol outdated did you know cyberpunk was in development since 2012 and now digital foundry picked the game as best graphics 2020 1) Cyberpunk 2077 2) Spiderman: Miles Morales 3) Microsoft Flight Simulator 4) Half-Lyfe: Alex 5) The Last of Us Part 2 6) Demon Souls 7) Doom Eternal 8) Ori and The Will of the Wisps 9) Minecraft RTX
Expect that with all those disgusting bugs, it had no business prioritizing graphics. Imagine a half ass Ferrari for sale
I just read an article on IGN from September with the devs talking about “polishing” and essentially just stamping out bugs to make it play as good or better than most other games... DO IT! Jeez! Quit making new crap, get your core working THEN add to it.
The core is working. It has been for a long while.
"working" when you mean 'working", like show some game snippets here, a short interview and little video there..then voila, another million.. yep, definitely "working"
I don’t mean literally only having ships to fly and bits and pieces to do and mess with. People need to be able to drop right in and experience a reasonably solid game with minimal issue and a concrete idea of what there is to experience. I am speaking as an observer and none of that is clear to me and plenty of others. This should only matter to you if you truly have interest in convincing others of this game’s justification for being and the budget (donated, or otherwise). I think I want to play this thing, but I need more than a vague idea of what I am getting.
@cyclindk: it really depends on what you intend with the "core" of the game. At the moment there are already over 100 ships flyable, which doesn't mean just flying around. It means you can fight with them, trade, mine, and such. And that's pretty damn fun. You can also fight on foot with a wide variety of weapons and armor. That's not as fun for me, but that's just because I'm not really much into FPS. Others love it. You can also mix it up, because you can fight on foot inside ships, while they're flying. There's missions, and they just implemented a chain that basically ends into a raid boss. The core gameplay loop is there, and it's very playable. There are glitches, but in 2020 it has improved massively in terms of stability and polish. If you're not sure, you should probably wait for the next free fly event, which normally gives you access to everything for a week or so, and see for yourself. This game is not for everyone, and you should try before you buy.
“... The core gameplay loop is there...” Bingo, if you say they have this now I will definitely give it another look, but man I have not seen any “good” video showing anything that looked “new.” It LOOKs spectacular, but not very busy.
Im wonder if the normal everyday gamer can tell you the difference between a 5mil a d 350 mil game. It took Minecraft an experiment to change how we think of building games. It didnt cost 100 mil and to be honest it came out and inspired a whole lot of new things. I mean when and if this releases will we be able to tell its a 350 mill game or will it fade away in 2 months...
Can someone remind me why a game from a publisher the size of Bethesda and now parent company MS needs to be crowdfunded? Genuinely asking...
Because they started with literally 10 people in a garage. Also, there's no publisher involved.
"Now, who is the cult?" The people sinking money into it that's who.
Chris Roberts is a damn fine snake oil salesman
There should a law against scams like these. Disgusting.
It will never live up to the hype, probably will just be an ok game once it releases and nothing special.
Literally drinking champagne with a celebration on this one.
I can understand the appeal, But it needs a larger team to get the game complete and then just update from time to time.
They have no intention of completing the game and honestly, why would they when they have their fanbase ensnared into spending eye watering amounts on digital items.
600-700 people working at CIG last I saw a number, the money isn't really saved up for a few select people.
A new milestone for Scam Citizen.