Dirt 5 Visual Comparison Between PS5 and Xbox Series After Update 2.00

Dirt 5 has been updated for the Xbox Series to fix the issue with lower-quality models in 120 FPS mode. Here's a comparison between the next-gen consoles.

[lifeisgamesok]

It's interesting that PS5 is still sharper in some areas and the Xbox Series S was only supposed to have lower resolution but the assets have been suffering compared to the big boy consoles

[DerfDerf]

At 5:34 you can clearly see the PS5 version is lacking compared to the Xbox Series consoles.

[ScootaKuH]

Clearly. I mean xbox consoles are like gods

[bouzebbal]

Ridiculous performance even after a patch, from the monster without teeth

[zypher]

Environmental conditions for the garage scenes are different on the PS5. For every scene where conditions are the same (6:28, for instance) both PS5 and Series X look identical

[StoneyYoshi]

Those comparisons are a waste considering the weather/location are not the same between the XB and PS5. PS5 version is overcast/hazy and in a different environment. It's hard to say which is better when lighting being different can make a huge difference.

[LamerTamer]

The PS5 is missing the reflections on the car. Even the Xbox series S has them which is odd.

[PigPen]

Playstation 5 version looks a little washed out.

[lifeisgamesok]

No

[jairusmonillas]

Series X dynamic resolution drops a much lower resolution just so it can ran to the same FPS of PS5 version.

[russo121]

So much talk about real 4k, 120fps, powaofdacloud, etc., that would turn things in MS favour, but in reality it's just a frightened little kitty and a battalion of xbox supporters doing as much damage control as possible.
Today it's the tools, tomorrow who knows?

OT: it seems this update made both versions almost equal (that should have been since the beginning), but I need to see it in real action and will see if no more unpleasant surprises. Analysis from NX Gamer is a must.

[S2Killinit]

Well. We are seeing the facts in front of us as we speak. PS5 seems to have the edge in real world application. If/when series X looks better, that will be just as insignificant as it was in the current generation especially considering that mid-gen consoles are also a thing now.

[RazzerRedux]

@Zeref

"So you think somehow the PS5 is going to defy physics and this is how it's gonna be for the rest of the generation?"

"the Series S version of games may perform scary close to the PS5"

lol....so PS5 cannot defy physics but Series S somehow will? Perhaps you should acknowledge that both these consoles have features the other does not? Whether or not this is "how it's gonna be" all gen remains to be seen, but having to provide excuses even at this early stage for XSX is a bit hilarious. Fact of the matter is there is more PS5 and XSX are different architectures based on the same tech. That's why they are custom. That fact alone means the teraflops power difference you cling to isn't very important

@LamerTamer

"Yeah the PS5 is weak. Less compute units (no more CUs than in the last-gen PS4 Pro? What!), slower RAM, slower CPU, less bandwidth, RDNA 1.5 with a bunch of missing features instead of the full RDNA 2.0. "

That's a selective and biased list if there ever was one. You don't mention the segmented slower ram on XSX. You don't mention GPU speed. You don't mention custom features that Sony implemented for PS5 and pretend that those features can only exist in RDNA 2.0.

"They will eventually optimize"

That is going to be the excuse for as long as PS5 and XSX are on even footing. Nah...bullshit. I don't buy it. Here again, your selectivity assumes only XSX will benefit from dev learning more about how to squeeze performance from these consoles. Devs are going to optimize for both consoles.

[andy85]

You're clueless Zeref. Teraflops aren't everything. If it's factually more powerful why is it being outperformed? The PS4 was slightly more powerful than the Xbox one and look how much better the games looked. The PS5 is far more customised for gaming that's why it's performing better. There's a thing called developer talent too. We haven't even seen an acclaimed developer release a true next gen title yet and already they look like this. Xbox have already said they will release their titles on Xbox one so they're already limiting themselves there.

I can't believe you've just said the Series S may perform close to the PS. It's running at five seventy P!!! at times. Honestly one if the worst things I've seen on here.

[Dragonscale]

Seems someone just can't accept that PS5 is actually more efficient. Yet another multiplat that outperforms xsx lol. Yeah its everything but the console of course, excuses, more excuses and damage control.

[Tetsdah]

@Razzer

Honestly bro, I imagine in 3 years if the ps5 still outperforms xsx, the tools haven't matured enough still. I honestly think gamers don't really believe in architectural design differences allowing that power to be harnessed and utilized efficiently. I whole heartedly believe that the ps5 was better architecturally designed. It is being showcased with game performance. The tools excuse is old and the developers having to get used to the hardware is misguided as hell. Xsx development kit is intended to scale up and down from PC. Dirt 5's dev shut down the nonsense on immature kits. It is less specialized than the PS5 and its kit. I think the devs may have to get used to the ps5 dev kits if anything lol.

This was a contest of race cars basically. MS built more for drag and Sony built more for circuit. These differences are insignificant in the grand scheme, because the differences are neglible. Like fake neutrals have said, enjoy your games .The differences aren't big enough to matter, so just enjoy it on your platform.

I just feel like Playstation team have proven the designed a more efficiently system that allows for better performance. It is what it is. When XSX is proves otherwise, ill re-evaluate.

[LamerTamer]

@ Razzer,

Yes the RAM is segmented but the faster RAM is 10 GIG! That is TWO more than the PS4 Pro, it is a lot. It is not like Xbone where the fast memory was only 32 M. They can use the faster memory where they need it, and use the slower RAM for all of the social media and other crap they have running.

Yes the PS5 GPU is clocked a little higher but have many less cores running. More CUs running in parallel more than make up for a slight bump in clock speed. Last gen the Xbone clocked their GPU higher than ps4 hoping to make up the difference when it had less CUs, it did not, the more CUs still beat Xbone.

Yes both will get better dev tools but the point was the PS5 dev tools are already more optimized due to longer time in optimization. The XSX tools are in a much more un-optimized early state so they have more room to improve. The PS5 tools will get a little better, the XSX tools will get a lot better.

The hardware is the hardware and the XSX is better. You just need to come to grips with the fact. It is Ok though the PS5 will still have good exclusives.

[lifeisgamesok]

Ultimately, these small differences don't matter but it's just funny after the world's most powerful console mantra

[Chris12]

Except it's a third party title developed on an old SDK but if you feel this is a win for a less powerful console that's cool I guess?

[DarkZane]

I wonder what excuse you will be using in a few years down the line when the PS5 still outperform the XSX in pretty much every games. Those TFLOPS you're so proud of mean absolutely nothing because the PS5 is better in some aspects than the XSX, making it the better machine overall.

[Atticus_finch]

So in other words we should "wait"

[RazzerRedux]

The Dirt 5 dev explicitly said the SDK was not an issue.

https://youtu.be/aXIHdzVC9v...

[IRetrouk]

Dirt dev says Chris12's capping isn't true.... read more at 10.

[kayoss]

ok, if this the excuse youre going to use, Chris12. How do you explain that some of the exclusive PS4 games looks better than some of the XsS or on par with XsX consoles? Please stop moving the goal post. The XsX is the most powerful console on the market, so you cant really make any excuses. But its getting sad that the most powerful console in the world cant even out perform the more "inferior" competition.

[lifeisgamesok]

It's also funny that you mention an old SDK because this very developer said there wasn't anything lacking in the XSX development kit that they used

He kind of killed the tools excuse

[Smok91]

Meh it’s just a marketing strategy

[gamer7804]

It’s true it’s just early on in the sdk and generation

[IRetrouk]

So the dirt dev lied? He said the sdk was fine, guess he just makes stuff up🤷‍♂️

[gamer7804]

@iretrouk

the sdk was "fine", it was just delivered much later than sony's so less time to work with it. Its like when someone is new on the job, the job process itself is fine, but it takes time to learn. both can be true at the same time.

[IRetrouk]

The dirt dev says they did have enough time with it, is he lying there then🤔, seems like they had it early infact.....

"What is it like developing on Xbox Series X?"

A: Transitioning development to a new console platform, like Xbox Series X, is usually very painful. You have to deal with new tools, new workflows, new ways of thinking.

This time around the team at Xbox brought me a new toolset called the Game Development Kit, which they already had up and running on Xbox One.

This meant that we could make the transition much earlier. In fact, we started doing the groundwork for Xbox Series X development long before we even received the hardware. This kind of thinking from Xbox allowed us to get a real head-start on next-gen development, so after receiving our early Xbox Series X hardware, we were up and running really quickly."

"I’ve never worked on a console launch where, while we’re still months away from release, the tools have been this mature, this stable, this easy to work with."

https://news.xbox.com/en-us...

[gamer7804]

So take that three months and triple it. That’s what Sony did for devs.

[IRetrouk]

3 months? They didnt give a time frame, how do you know when the tools were received🤔 Where do you get the info that tells you when sony and ms sent them out🤔 You said devs had the old sdk and not enough time with it, I just proved that wrong, they had the new sdk before final hardware, they had no issues with how long they had it for, even saying they had it early, even calling it the most mature and stable of any launch🤷‍♂️
The tools/sdk is an excuse, nothing more.

[gamer7804]

The max devs had the kits were 3 months, so up to that amount from what I’ve read. https://www.gameinformer.co...

[Atticus_finch]

You're trying way too hard and all that just to be inevitably disappointed.
It's embarrassing that a software giant wouldn't have it's "tools" ready. Not a good excuse.

[gamer7804]

It’s a good excuse really, but yah def not ideal, but assures things will start improving as time goes on

[IRetrouk]

Its not a good excuse, Its pure bull, the dirt devs comments are from June, ms execs said something in November.....the dirt devs had already rubbished what ms was pushing🤦‍♂️like it, it dont🤷‍♂️

[gamer7804]

It’s clear the dirt 5 devs are having issues. They aren’t going to come out and say it. They just now finally fixed some of the bugs including the texture bug on the series x.

[IRetrouk]

Yeah bugs, not sdks and dev kits lol, keep reaching though, only one who will be disappointed is you, everyone else can see its a lame excuse🤷‍♂️

[gamer7804]

Just shows that they are just less familiar with the hardware and had less time resulting in them pushing it out with some pretty glaring bugs. I’m just pointing out facts that they had more time with thenps5 then they did with the Xbox.

[IRetrouk]

Not really, bugs can happen for many, many reasons lol

[gamer7804]

Yea really :). But yes bugs can happen for a variety of reasons

[IRetrouk]

Ok dude, you know better than the devs, understood👌

[gamer7804]

That’s not what I said at all. I said both things can be true.

[MASTER_RAIDEN]

I barely notice any differences in either direction with the ps5/SX. There may be some subtitle differences in specific instances but that seems about as close as you would expect between 2 platforms. Appreciate the effort put into the video of course, but this wasn’t the easiest comparison to pick apart.

Side note: the transition between modes made for way too much to try to take note.

[moriarty1889]

It’s a lot like the comparisons at the start of the xb1/ps4 gen. PS4 hitting higher rez a lot of the times just like now.

[shabz666]

No way it was so much worse back then. Remember that battlefield and cod were all 720p or 900p at the time. The resolution and performance narrative remained the same till the one x came out. Right now both seriesx and ps5 are quiet equivalent for now.

Also this has always been the case even during the ps3 360 generation. Most games ran poorly on ps3 , always loosing out to 360 on performance and optimization especially early during the generation, due to the cell architecture. Except for outliers like square Enix that showed ps3 capable of running games at native 720 and 360 unable to do so. The tech in the right hands of devs like naughty dog or guerrilla games really showed the power of ps3 in the end. Without these devs we’d have left that generation thinking the 360 was the more powerful system.

These consoles won’t be tapped out till the first party show cases it. It’s been like this for years and years and every gen I see people squabbling over performances and frame rates at the start of it. Always annoying to see. But when someone like naughty dog or coalition comes out and flexes the console you can see the real power in the machine. And then you’re seeing games like resident evil 7 trying 1080p native at 60fps on xbone or red dead redemption targeting higher resolutions on Xbox one than call of duty ghosts at launch.

All of these comparisons are too early for anything.

[Tetsdah]

I agree with the sentiment that the 1st party will flex and tap into the hardware. That's why the load time optimizations have been insane on PS5's 1st party game, something many detractors try to dismiss. Ratchet is Sony's testament that the SSD/IO goes far beyond simply boosting load times.

I think the "too early" assessment i don't so much buy. The ps4 showed its advantage out the gate. It carried throughout the gen, only minimizing with time and certain games. But the real strength for XSX was that the GDK would scale up and down with PC. Then it's brute power will handle rest. 3rd party was supposed to be an easy victory according to MS. They're gonna have to prove their power.

[whitbyfox]

Dirt 5 on PS5 is unreal, the graphics are true next-gen. When you get the free upgrade from PS4 you see the world of difference.

Every new Playstation needs a great racing game at launch and this is it.

[Aussieguy]

Even if the xbox is more powerful on paper, I doubt we we really see this since all Microsoft's exclusives are beening made for PC and Sony's first party games always push the bar for graphics way further then you would think possible.

Just look at games like God of War, The Last of Us 2, Ghost of Tsushima, are there any games on the Xbox 1 x that look better then these even though its way more powerful then the Pro ?

I think by the end of this gen, the PS5 will have the better looking games.

[Limitedtimestruggle]

This game looks pretty ass regardless of platform to be honest.

[XBManiac]

I can't believe that Xbox Series is still behind PS5 on this and other games, as well as system stability or general performance, with patches and thousands of engineers working on Microsoft side to show a "better" hardware at the level it "deserves". I... just... don't... believe... because with less people working got Xbox One they got it nearer to the level of PS4. And PS4vsOne was with a hardware really underpowered against competition. Microsoft needs better managing on this ASAP (from top to base), because their tech people are best of the best (I have known some of them in Redmond, as well as overseas and the ones who "really work" are best of the world on theirs, with passion and knowledge together).

[SoloFish]

I like both xbox and ps4 but next gen you could have only one console when they eventually come back in stock I am still on the fence. I was going to go with xbox because of game pass and the slightly larger storage space but ps5 does still seem to be slightly in the lead for performance which I didn't expect. I am still on the fence and may wait this out until next autumn...

[DPO]

Playstation Domination

[jjb1981]

Next week: Dirt 5 Patch 2.012387 Comparison of PS5 and Xbox Series X.

[waverider]

This news is pointless. They had to drop rez to increase frames. Its really strange the problems that xbox is showing. After all the talk about poiwer. The excuse of tools on crossgen games doesnt work for me. Even more on a racer.... There something to be told and sooner or later it will come out.